OMG!!! info needed please

[A&G&K]

I just got a +ve HPT!!!!
I am still reeling - when we wanted to conceive DD, it took us about a year
of really trying (bbt and mucus calcs, ovulation pinpointed etc) on top of
what must have been almost a year of not really trying but not taking bc.
....and here we are with a +ve HPT on the first cycle for #2 ... and not a
thermometer or chart in sight.

We are both ecstatic, but so far I've only been able to tell DH (made him
come in and make sure there were *two* lines on that pg stick) and DD (but
given that she's just shy of 14 mo I don't think she'll be blabbing about it
too much ;) DH wants to keep this on the quiet for a little while but I'm
hopeless at keeping good news a secret. We are going to see my parents
soon, but he doesn't want me to tell then until the Dr has confirmed the
pg.....

So you guys are the first to know :)

Now to keep this on topic ... here's the problem:
I normally experience a dip in my pumped supply each month for 2-3 days
before AF. Well, I've not been able to get more than half the normal pumped
amount for the last 4 days and now DD is fussing at the breast ... wanting
to switch sides too often. I want to continue bf her as long as possible as
she isn't tolerating cow's milk on her cereal quite yet (nothing major, just
really soft stools), aside from the fact that I just think she's too young
to wean.

I've tried googling to get info on how to increase my supply but I can't
seem to find much info about increasing supply for a 14 mo during pg. ... I
think I'm too excited to think straight enough to search for the right
information.
I tried looking in "What to expect when you are expecting" ... but it
basically said to wean asap (which I think is total crap). My fav pg book
"Up the duff" only seems to concentrate on an initial pg and doesn't seem to
consider bf whilst pg.

So some q's:
Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg? (I haven't been taking RLT lately so
that's a bit of luck given that its not safe in the first trimester). How
much is enough?
I'm trying to feed DD more often, but she seems to get easily distracted and
is on-and-off constantly. I guess I should try to keep that up though.
I'm going to call the ABA counsellor tomorrow (given that its Sunday morning
as I'm typing this and I don't think this constitutes a bf emergency quite
yet).

Anyone who has been through this or has any tips ... please please let me
know.

Amanda
DD 15-August-02
EDD 14 June 04

[Irish Marie]

"A&G&K" > wrote in message
...
> I just got a +ve HPT!!!!

Sorry Amanda I have no advise for you re increasing your supply whilst pg
but just wanted to say CONGRATULATIONS!!!
Wishing you a happy and healthy pregnancy

--
Marie
Mum to DD born March '98, DS#1 born Nov '99 and DS#2 born Aug '03
This email address doesn't exist anymore
Please reply on ng or if you know me you know my email address!

[zeldabee]

"A&G&K" > wrote:
> I just got a +ve HPT!!!!

Congrats!

[...]
> So some q's:
> Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg?

Kellymom says no...but doesn't say why:

http://www.kellymom.com/herbal/herbs_f.html

I'm sorry I don't have any useful advice, but good luck!

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[azure]

Congratulations!!! Why don't you post on the ABA website, someone may get
back to you sooner that way?

Cheers,

Leah


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[Belphoebe]

"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
> "A&G&K" > wrote:
> > I just got a +ve HPT!!!!
>
> Congrats!
>
> [...]
> > So some q's:
> > Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg?
>
> Kellymom says no...but doesn't say why:
>
> http://www.kellymom.com/herbal/herbs_f.html
>
> I'm sorry I don't have any useful advice, but good luck!

I seem to remember it can cause uterine contractions.

Belphoebe

[Cathy]

A&G&K > wrote in message
...
> I just got a +ve HPT!!!!

Congrats! Sorry, no advice on the rest as we are still on no. 1, but I'm
very interested in the replies!

Cathy

[A&G&K]

"azure" > wrote in message
...
> Congratulations!!! Why don't you post on the ABA website, someone may get
> back to you sooner that way?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Leah
>
>
Thanks for that idea - I've just done so and got a quick reply ....
Ta
Amanda

[A&G&K]

"A&G&K" > wrote in message
...
> I just got a +ve HPT!!!!
> I am still reeling - when we wanted to conceive DD, it took us about a
year
> of really trying (bbt and mucus calcs, ovulation pinpointed etc) on top of
> what must have been almost a year of not really trying but not taking bc.
> ...and here we are with a +ve HPT on the first cycle for #2 ... and not a
> thermometer or chart in sight.
>
> We are both ecstatic, but so far I've only been able to tell DH (made him
> come in and make sure there were *two* lines on that pg stick) and DD (but
> given that she's just shy of 14 mo I don't think she'll be blabbing about
it
> too much ;) DH wants to keep this on the quiet for a little while but I'm
> hopeless at keeping good news a secret. We are going to see my parents
> soon, but he doesn't want me to tell then until the Dr has confirmed the
> pg.....
>
> So you guys are the first to know :)
>
> Now to keep this on topic ... here's the problem:
> I normally experience a dip in my pumped supply each month for 2-3 days
> before AF. Well, I've not been able to get more than half the normal
pumped
> amount for the last 4 days and now DD is fussing at the breast ... wanting
> to switch sides too often. I want to continue bf her as long as possible
as
> she isn't tolerating cow's milk on her cereal quite yet (nothing major,
just
> really soft stools), aside from the fact that I just think she's too young
> to wean.
>
> I've tried googling to get info on how to increase my supply but I can't
> seem to find much info about increasing supply for a 14 mo during pg. ...
I
> think I'm too excited to think straight enough to search for the right
> information.
> I tried looking in "What to expect when you are expecting" ... but it
> basically said to wean asap (which I think is total crap). My fav pg book
> "Up the duff" only seems to concentrate on an initial pg and doesn't seem
to
> consider bf whilst pg.
>
> So some q's:
> Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg? (I haven't been taking RLT lately
so
> that's a bit of luck given that its not safe in the first trimester). How
> much is enough?
> I'm trying to feed DD more often, but she seems to get easily distracted
and
> is on-and-off constantly. I guess I should try to keep that up though.
> I'm going to call the ABA counsellor tomorrow (given that its Sunday
morning
> as I'm typing this and I don't think this constitutes a bf emergency quite
> yet).
>
> Anyone who has been through this or has any tips ... please please let me
> know.
>
> Amanda
> DD 15-August-02
> EDD 14 June 04
>
>
>
>

Thanks so much for all the good wishes.
It still hasn't sunk in. We are both looking at each other with weird
little smiles on our faces ... shock I think.
You'd think for a biologist I might have been prepared for this, but I
really didn't think it would happen first try given our previous experience.
It does make me feel sure now that its been the chiropractic treatment I've
been regularly receiving for almost the last 2 years that has helped (as we
got pg only 4 weeks after seeing the chiropractor when we were ttc DD).

I took Leah's advice and e-mailed the ABA today and the advice was quite
good - increase the feeds and maybe re-introduce a night feed (still
thinking about that one). The kellymom page also had great info, so thanks
to those that suggested that site.

I've also started re-reading "Up the Duff" by Kaz Cooke which is just so
funny (as well as having good info on general pg stuff). I don't know if
its available outside Australia, but I highly recommend this book as a
really funny read - she started each chapter (week) with an extract from
the fictitious character's diary ... very very funny and all too true.

Anyway, I'm off to try and get some sleep - I'm exhausted but so excited
that I'm sure I'll have a hard time nodding off:)

thanks everyone
Amanda

DD 15-August-02
EDD 14 June 04

[She's A Goddess]

"A&G&K" > wrote in message
...
>
> So you guys are the first to know :)

Congratulations!

> Now to keep this on topic ... here's the problem:
> I normally experience a dip in my pumped supply each month for 2-3 days
> before AF. Well, I've not been able to get more than half the normal
pumped
> amount for the last 4 days and now DD is fussing at the breast ... wanting
> to switch sides too often. I want to continue bf her as long as possible
as
> she isn't tolerating cow's milk on her cereal quite yet (nothing major,
just
> really soft stools), aside from the fact that I just think she's too young
> to wean.

Hmm... I never experienced anything like this until I was around four
months pregnant, but I wasn't pumping at that point either.

> So some q's:
> Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg? (I haven't been taking RLT lately
so
> that's a bit of luck given that its not safe in the first trimester). How
> much is enough?

Not theoretically, so I wouldn't try it. I would eat a whole lot of oatmeal
and keep up the more constant nursing. In lieu of that, have you tried
giving her soy or rice milk? Maybe you can keep your supply at a nurseable
level if not a pumpable level. Good luck!

--
Rhiannon
Madison Sophia - 9/6/01
Owen Grady - 6/23/03

[Chookie]

In article >,
"A&G&K" > wrote:

> I just got a +ve HPT!!!!

Congratulations!!

> I'm going to call the ABA counsellor tomorrow (given that its Sunday morning
> as I'm typing this and I don't think this constitutes a bf emergency quite
> yet).

There's actually a booklet on bfing while pregnant that you should be able to
get from your local group sales officer.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Jeez; if only those Ancient Greek storytellers had known about the astonishing
creature that is the *Usenet hydra*: you cut off one head, and *a stupider one*
grows back..." -- MJ, cam.misc

[Irene]

Chookie > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> "A&G&K" > wrote:
>
> > I just got a +ve HPT!!!!
>
> Congratulations!!

Congratulations!!! I don't know if you've been paying attention, but
welcome to the bf and pregnant club! My ds is 2 though, so supply
issues aren't a big deal. In my completely non-medical advice, I'd
mention the obvious oatmeal, plenty of water and try to eat healthy
and get your prenatal vitamins.
>
> > I'm going to call the ABA counsellor tomorrow (given that its Sunday morning
> > as I'm typing this and I don't think this constitutes a bf emergency quite
> > yet).
>
> There's actually a booklet on bfing while pregnant that you should be able to
> get from your local group sales officer.

Any choice tidbits you can post, since I'm not in Aus?

Irene
mom to Thomas 7/01
#2 EDD 4/04

[Larry McMahan]

A&G&K > writes:

: So some q's:
: Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg? (I haven't been taking RLT lately so
: that's a bit of luck given that its not safe in the first trimester). How
: much is enough?

Don't know about the fenugreek, but give the other negative replies in this
ng, I will offer the following.

Lots of oatmeal and lots of night nursing.

Good luck,
Larry

[A&G&K]

Thanks everyone,
Its still cool enough here to eat porridge for brekkie so I have been eating
that, and drinking plenty of water.
While my pumped supply is still down, it hasn't decreased any further, and
we worked out why DD has been fussing ... two incredibly hard, and very
large "bumps" on her lower gums. Her lower molars are coming through! I'm
happier now that I've worked out why she's been so fussy.

Thanks again
Amanda

[Chookie]

In article >,
(Irene) wrote:

> > There's actually a booklet on bfing while pregnant that you should be able
> > to get from your local group sales officer.
>
> Any choice tidbits you can post, since I'm not in Aus?

Most of it is helpful practical advice (including lots of comments from other
mothers who have btdt), eg how to position two babies at the breast. Some of
it gives the varied experiences of pregnant bfing mothers wrt nipple soreness,
morning sickness, mood swings, etc. There is also a section on miscarriage
and how having an older child still bfing can help relieve the swollen breasts
as well as the sore heart.

On nutrition, it says that women who are pregnant and bfing need to increase
their energy and calcium intake in particular. They recommend at least
1200mg/day calcium and give a table of calcium content of common foods.

Hope that gives you a idea.

--
Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
(Replace "foulspambegone" with "optushome" to reply)

"Jeez; if only those Ancient Greek storytellers had known about the astonishing
creature that is the *Usenet hydra*: you cut off one head, and *a stupider one*
grows back..." -- MJ, cam.misc

[elizabeth emerald]

"A&G&K" > wrote in message
...
> I just got a +ve HPT!!!!
> I am still reeling - when we wanted to conceive DD, it took us about a
year
> of really trying (bbt and mucus calcs, ovulation pinpointed etc) on top of
> what must have been almost a year of not really trying but not taking bc.
> ...and here we are with a +ve HPT on the first cycle for #2 ... and not a
> thermometer or chart in sight.
>
> We are both ecstatic, but so far I've only been able to tell DH (made him
> come in and make sure there were *two* lines on that pg stick) and DD (but
> given that she's just shy of 14 mo I don't think she'll be blabbing about
it
> too much ;) DH wants to keep this on the quiet for a little while but I'm
> hopeless at keeping good news a secret. We are going to see my parents
> soon, but he doesn't want me to tell then until the Dr has confirmed the
> pg.....
>
> So you guys are the first to know :)
>
> Now to keep this on topic ... here's the problem:
> I normally experience a dip in my pumped supply each month for 2-3 days
> before AF. Well, I've not been able to get more than half the normal
pumped
> amount for the last 4 days and now DD is fussing at the breast ... wanting
> to switch sides too often. I want to continue bf her as long as possible
as
> she isn't tolerating cow's milk on her cereal quite yet (nothing major,
just
> really soft stools), aside from the fact that I just think she's too young
> to wean.
>
> I've tried googling to get info on how to increase my supply but I can't
> seem to find much info about increasing supply for a 14 mo during pg. ...
I
> think I'm too excited to think straight enough to search for the right
> information.
> I tried looking in "What to expect when you are expecting" ... but it
> basically said to wean asap (which I think is total crap). My fav pg book
> "Up the duff" only seems to concentrate on an initial pg and doesn't seem
to
> consider bf whilst pg.
>
> So some q's:
> Is it ok to take fenugreek whilst pg? (I haven't been taking RLT lately
so
> that's a bit of luck given that its not safe in the first trimester). How
> much is enough?
> I'm trying to feed DD more often, but she seems to get easily distracted
and
> is on-and-off constantly. I guess I should try to keep that up though.
> I'm going to call the ABA counsellor tomorrow (given that its Sunday
morning
> as I'm typing this and I don't think this constitutes a bf emergency quite
> yet).
>
> Anyone who has been through this or has any tips ... please please let me
> know.
>
> Amanda
> DD 15-August-02
> EDD 14 June 04

woo hoo! congratulations!!!!! that'll teach me not to read the ng. i don't
know anything about your questions, but the only way DS gets a good drink of
breastmilk (he's still at 4-5 times a day) is in my bedroom lying down with
the door closed i.e. minimal lighting. if something catches his attention,
esp when we are out, there's just no point in trying to feed then.

p.s i promise to reply to your email soon (after all you wrote it 3 weeks
ago.....)
--
elizabeth (in australia)
DS - born 20-aug-02

[Irene]

Chookie > wrote in message >...
> In article >,
> (Irene) wrote:
>
> > > There's actually a booklet on bfing while pregnant that you should be able
> > > to get from your local group sales officer.
> >
> > Any choice tidbits you can post, since I'm not in Aus?
>
> Most of it is helpful practical advice (including lots of comments from other
> mothers who have btdt), eg how to position two babies at the breast. Some of
> it gives the varied experiences of pregnant bfing mothers wrt nipple soreness,
> morning sickness, mood swings, etc. There is also a section on miscarriage
> and how having an older child still bfing can help relieve the swollen breasts
> as well as the sore heart.
>
> On nutrition, it says that women who are pregnant and bfing need to increase
> their energy and calcium intake in particular. They recommend at least
> 1200mg/day calcium and give a table of calcium content of common foods.
>
> Hope that gives you a idea.

Thank you! Especially about the calcium thing - I hadn't seen that
elsewhere. (I suppose I really should be doing more research on this,
but hadn't really heard that I needed to.) Alas, yogurt has been
particularly unappetizing lately... I do know I'm eating a ton more
than when I was at this stage with ds, however.

Irene

[Irene]

"A&G&K" > wrote in message >...
> Thanks everyone,
> Its still cool enough here to eat porridge for brekkie so I have been eating
> that, and drinking plenty of water.
> While my pumped supply is still down, it hasn't decreased any further, and
> we worked out why DD has been fussing ... two incredibly hard, and very
> large "bumps" on her lower gums. Her lower molars are coming through! I'm
> happier now that I've worked out why she's been so fussy.
>
> Thanks again
> Amanda

Oh, wow, ds got a couple of molars just after I found I was pg, too!
After a couple of nights of waking every 2 hours, I was glad that was
the reason, and maybe I could survive this after all!

Irene