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zeldabee
October 5th 03, 08:15 PM
Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times, but
as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face, and it
seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."

This morning was different, though...We'd had a good night--he wasn't
fussy, didn't stay awake after feedings, mom got some sleep--and he woke up
calm. I got up as he started to stir, went to the bathroom and so on. I
went to him when I heard his "Ok, I'm really awake now" noise, and talked
to him a little... and he smiled. So I kept on talking, and he kept on
smiling. This went on for about 5 minutes before I picked him up to nurse
him.

Then again this afternoon, I'd had to change his clothes after a blowout
poop. I'd put him on the bed by the window so that he could watch the
leaves blowing in the wind as I finished dressing him. Again, he smiled as
he watched the leaves, and started making little exclamations, noises that
sounded purposeful and voluntary. I nearly cried, it was so sweet.

Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.

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Phoebe & Allyson
October 5th 03, 08:34 PM
zeldabee wrote:

> and he smiled. So I kept on talking, and he kept on
> smiling.


Not gas. Isn't it great?

Phoebe oht :)
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iphigenia
October 5th 03, 09:26 PM
zeldabee wrote:
> Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times,
> but as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face,
> and it seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."
>

I've never bought the notion that having gas makes babies smile. I figure
it's just them playing around with their facial muscles. But at almost 4
weeks, it could be a real smile.


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Vicki S
October 5th 03, 11:45 PM
zeldabee > wrote:
> Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.

All I have is the "expertise" (snort) of rasing my own two, but I would
have to say no, you are not. To me those both sound most emphatically
like intentional behaviors, real smiles, and real exclamations of
delight. Mazal tov! Your cutie pie is aware!
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Bruce and Jeanne
October 6th 03, 12:14 AM
zeldabee wrote:

> Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times, but
> as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face, and it
> seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."
>
> This morning was different, though...We'd had a good night--he wasn't
> fussy, didn't stay awake after feedings, mom got some sleep--and he woke up
> calm. I got up as he started to stir, went to the bathroom and so on. I
> went to him when I heard his "Ok, I'm really awake now" noise, and talked
> to him a little... and he smiled. So I kept on talking, and he kept on
> smiling. This went on for about 5 minutes before I picked him up to nurse
> him.
>
> Then again this afternoon, I'd had to change his clothes after a blowout
> poop. I'd put him on the bed by the window so that he could watch the
> leaves blowing in the wind as I finished dressing him. Again, he smiled as
> he watched the leaves, and started making little exclamations, noises that
> sounded purposeful and voluntary. I nearly cried, it was so sweet.
>
> Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.
>
>

I think it's a real smile :)

When DS was younger, he would "smile" and then 5 minutes later poop. I
called *that* gas.

Jeanne

Sara
October 6th 03, 12:53 AM
zeldabee wrote:

> Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times, but
> as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face, and it
> seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."
>
> This morning was different, though...We'd had a good night--he wasn't
> fussy, didn't stay awake after feedings, mom got some sleep--and he woke up
> calm. I got up as he started to stir, went to the bathroom and so on. I
> went to him when I heard his "Ok, I'm really awake now" noise, and talked
> to him a little... and he smiled.

Sounds like a happy smile to me!

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azure
October 6th 03, 01:18 AM
"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
*snip*
>
> Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.
>
> --


Definitely a smile : ) Audrey did this around 3wo, same age as your bubby
: ) Though I do miss those sleepy newborn grins that appear and disappear
of the face so quickly, even if they aren't "real". She did one the other
day and I realised it has been mostly gone from her repertoire for awhile
now.

Cheers,

Leah


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JoFromOz
October 6th 03, 02:08 AM
zeldabee wrote:
> Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times,
> but as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face,
> and it seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."
(snip)
> Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.

Personally I believe that since babies feel the feelings to make them cry
(sad, etc), then why don't they have the happy feelings that make them
smile? We know they aren't totally devoid of emotion, it's just that in the
first few weeks there isn't that much to smile about because they are
getting used to a WHOLE new world and way of living.

Just my opinion :)

Your story is really great :)

Jo (RM)

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Maryilee
October 6th 03, 01:32 PM
>Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.
>
>--

Sounds like real smiles to me. My dd had her first real smiles at only three
weeks. It sure caught me by surprise as my boys didn't have real smiles until
about six weeks of age.

Maryilee

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zeldabee
October 6th 03, 05:09 PM
Vicki S > wrote:
> zeldabee > wrote:
> > Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.
>
> All I have is the "expertise" (snort) of rasing my own two, but I would
> have to say no, you are not. To me those both sound most emphatically
> like intentional behaviors, real smiles, and real exclamations of
> delight. Mazal tov! Your cutie pie is aware!

Ah, good, I'm so glad. I haven't heard much more cooing since, but have
seen a few more smiles. Bloke had yet to be blessed.

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Circe
October 6th 03, 05:58 PM
"Phoebe & Allyson" > wrote in message
...
> zeldabee wrote:
> > and he smiled. So I kept on talking, and he kept on
> > smiling.
>
> Not gas. Isn't it great?
>
Julian smiled at exactly 4 weeks old. I have it on film. It was *not* gas,
but a real, honest-to-goodness social smile. And it is great, isn't it?
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A&G&K
October 7th 03, 04:57 AM
"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
> Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times, but
> as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face, and it
> seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."
>
> This morning was different, though...We'd had a good night--he wasn't
> fussy, didn't stay awake after feedings, mom got some sleep--and he woke
up
> calm. I got up as he started to stir, went to the bathroom and so on. I
> went to him when I heard his "Ok, I'm really awake now" noise, and talked
> to him a little... and he smiled. So I kept on talking, and he kept on
> smiling. This went on for about 5 minutes before I picked him up to nurse
> him.
>
> Then again this afternoon, I'd had to change his clothes after a blowout
> poop. I'd put him on the bed by the window so that he could watch the
> leaves blowing in the wind as I finished dressing him. Again, he smiled as
> he watched the leaves, and started making little exclamations, noises that
> sounded purposeful and voluntary. I nearly cried, it was so sweet.
>
> Am I reading too much into this? It just seems like such a change.
>
> --
> z e l d a b e e @ p a n i x . c o m http://NewsReader.Com/

Sounds like the real deal to me. I've never bought the "gas"theory though.
I figure that smiling is just another facial expression they "play" with.

(Still wonderful though isn't it?)

Amanda

Jenrose
October 7th 03, 07:33 PM
"zeldabee" > wrote in message
...
> Bubeleh will be 4 weeks old tomorrow. I've seen him smile many times, but
> as part of a repertoire of expressions that pass over his face, and it
> seemed almost random, so I figured they weren't "real."
>
> This morning was different, though...

Yep!

4 weeks is exactly "on time" for those first smiles. Some babies do it
earlier or later, and yes, they're very different from "gas" or "random"
smiles.

I love that... My daughter first smiled when she figured out the "mommy
sticks out tongue, baby sticks out tongue, baby sticks out tongue, then
mommy does it" game. She'd done that reflexively, but it was like a ray of
sunshine when she figured out how to do it on purpose.

Jenrose