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elizabeth emerald
October 14th 03, 09:34 AM
my friend sent me the following link about
sleeping/co-sleeping/breastfeeding etc.
http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/detsleepthrough.html
thought others might find it interesting.
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elizabeth (in australia)
DS - born 20-aug-02

A&G&K
October 15th 03, 04:23 AM
"elizabeth emerald" > wrote in message
...
> my friend sent me the following link about
> sleeping/co-sleeping/breastfeeding etc.
> http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/detsleepthrough.html
> thought others might find it interesting.
> --
> elizabeth (in australia)
> DS - born 20-aug-02
>
>

Thanks heaps Elizabeth,
I've been fending off a few odd remarks lately about the fact that DD spends
most of the night in our bed.
One lady told me that it was "illegal" after a certain age (which she failed
to define) but I can't imagine DD sleeping with us when she's 15.
After DD's midnight temp spike the other night (39.2 degrees!) I was
complaining to an acquaintance that it was a bit hard to cope with the lack
of sleep again since DD has been sleeping through the night (8 pm - 6am with
the odd stirring) for a while now. She complained that her 8 and 10 yo kids
still didn't sleep through the night, but scoffed at us co-sleeping.
"Ughh" she said, "I'd *never* have them in our bed - never even had them in
our room when they were babies".
"Oh well" I thought to myself, "I guess you must be happy having had to get
up to them most nights for the past 10 years"..... smirk smirk smirk :)

Amanda

All4meUC
October 15th 03, 01:21 PM
My two month old son sleeps in the bed with me. I'm a single mom so there is no
one else to worry about sharing the bed with. It is so obvious how safe and
content he feels when we snuggle up for the night, I couldn't imagine putting
him in a crib, let alone in another room (not at this point anyway).
~Tracy

Melania
October 15th 03, 08:02 PM
(All4meUC) wrote in message >...
> My two month old son sleeps in the bed with me. I'm a single mom so there is no
> one else to worry about sharing the bed with. It is so obvious how safe and
> content he feels when we snuggle up for the night, I couldn't imagine putting
> him in a crib, let alone in another room (not at this point anyway).
> ~Tracy

Oh, I know exactly what you mean! The first decent night's sleep I got
after giving birth was when I made the transition - around 5 weeks in
- to co-sleeping. It took us that long to get the hang of nursing
lying down. The idea of putting my baby in another room and walking
away for eight hours (even if he did have unbroken sleep for that
long) just makes me sad. We've been going through teething woes, and
DS is a hefty, wiggly 9mo now, so DH and I often get woken up, but
we're still doing okay with it. Being all snuggled up in a warm cosy
nursing ball with my baby at night makes up for all the frustrating
(uh, "challenging") moments during the day!

As for that line earlier about it being "illegal" to sleep with your
kids past a certain age . . . I can see it getting weird in the
extreme, but: I remember being 5 or 6 years old and climbing into bed
with my parents - and my two little brothers! My dad says he often
ended up in one of our beds by morning, with all three kids in the
parental bed with mom. I've always had a great relationship with my
parents, as have my brothers, and I credit that to excellent,
nurturing parenting - which includes welcoming us into their bed for
comforting whenever we needed it. I've got relatives whose bedroom is
completely off limits for their six-year-old, and has been ever since
he was born. When he was a toddler, he'd yell from his room, or he'd
*knock on their door*, in the middle of the night if he needed a
parent's comfort. Now, I think THAT'S pretty weird!

Melania and Joffre in Vancouver

A&G&K
October 16th 03, 01:10 AM
"Melania" > wrote in message
om...
> As for that line earlier about it being "illegal" to sleep with your
> kids past a certain age . . . I can see it getting weird in the
> extreme, but: I remember being 5 or 6 years old and climbing into bed
> with my parents - and my two little brothers! My dad says he often
> ended up in one of our beds by morning, with all three kids in the
> parental bed with mom. I've always had a great relationship with my
> parents, as have my brothers, and I credit that to excellent,
> nurturing parenting - which includes welcoming us into their bed for
> comforting whenever we needed it. I've got relatives whose bedroom is
> completely off limits for their six-year-old, and has been ever since
> he was born. When he was a toddler, he'd yell from his room, or he'd
> *knock on their door*, in the middle of the night if he needed a
> parent's comfort. Now, I think THAT'S pretty weird!
>
I have to agree. I can remember crawling in to my parents bed when I was
little. It was scary sleeping in my bedroom by myself! I'd hate to think
DD had to "ask permission" to come and give us a snuggle.
I still don't know what the "legal age limit" is, but I would think that
most kids will grow out of it when they are ready. I do understand that
there has to be a limit though ... as I said, can't imagine DD crawling into
our bed when she is 15 :)
Apparently (according to the woman I spoke with), its also illegal to have
male and female siblings share a room past a certain age (although what that
age is she also delcined to say). I can't imagine teenagers wanting to
share a room, but I see nothing wrong with young kids sharing ....
Cheers
Amanda

Phoebe & Allyson
October 16th 03, 02:44 AM
A&G&K wrote:

> Apparently (according to the woman I spoke with), its also illegal to have
> male and female siblings share a room past a certain age

When Allyson lived in Texas as a young teenager (I'm
thinking she was 12 or 13), she and her parents and her
brother (who would have been 7 or 8) lived in a 2-bedroom
apartment. She said they always worried that the apartment
manager would find out there were opposite-sex kids in the
family, because it was illegal for them to share a bedroom.

Phoebe :)
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Vijay
October 16th 03, 02:59 AM
I'm not going to get into the co-sleeping issue: it works great for
some families and not for others, no judgements here one way or the
other.

I just wish I had read this article before my daughter was born. I was
under the impression that babies feed for 20-30 minutes once every 2-3
hours and I didn't understand why my baby was so fussy all the time.
Granted, I had other issues to contend with, she also had a tendency
to fall asleep at the breast, or more like into a trance of some sort
and stop nursing soon after she began. But if I had known that it was
okay to let them nurse more frequently for shorter bursts, we might
not be having the problems we are having now (low supply, low interest
on her part in nursing).

If I could give one piece of advice to moms to be, it is this: don't
listen to what any book or person says about how often or how long
your baby should nurse. If he/she wants to nurse every 15 minutes for
5 minutes, do it. If you put your baby on any kind of schedule you may
be headed for supply issues that are very hard to bounce back from.

-V.

KC
October 16th 03, 11:03 AM
Good article! I have really enjoyed our nursing bed. I do have a
side mattress that I put my baby on right when I first go to sleep
(she is already asleep then), then normally I pull her onto my
mattress the first time she wakes for nursing, and then we sleep on
the same mattress for the rest of the night. The other night she
actually slept 7 hours straight on that other mattress and wasn't on
my mattress at all that night. She had not napped at all that day. I
was sad if our night nursing was going to end. I like the night
nursing. Thankfully she has resumed the night nursing since then.
Even when the day nursings were so trying because they were so
non-stop, the night nursings were good.

KC
buy or rent Whittlestone Breast Expressers at:
http//www.alittlestore.com



"elizabeth emerald" > wrote in message >...
> my friend sent me the following link about
> sleeping/co-sleeping/breastfeeding etc.
> http://www.prairienet.org/laleche/detsleepthrough.html
> thought others might find it interesting.

E
October 25th 03, 02:54 PM
Vijay wrote:
> I'm not going to get into the co-sleeping issue: it works great for
> some families and not for others, no judgements here one way or the
> other.
>
> I just wish I had read this article before my daughter was born. I was
> under the impression that babies feed for 20-30 minutes once every 2-3
> hours and I didn't understand why my baby was so fussy all the time.
> Granted, I had other issues to contend with, she also had a tendency
> to fall asleep at the breast, or more like into a trance of some sort
> and stop nursing soon after she began. But if I had known that it was
> okay to let them nurse more frequently for shorter bursts, we might
> not be having the problems we are having now (low supply, low interest
> on her part in nursing).
>
> If I could give one piece of advice to moms to be, it is this: don't
> listen to what any book or person says about how often or how long
> your baby should nurse. If he/she wants to nurse every 15 minutes for
> 5 minutes, do it. If you put your baby on any kind of schedule you may
> be headed for supply issues that are very hard to bounce back from.
>
> -V.

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