Teething and Temperatures

[Phoebe & Allyson]

Nothing visible, but Caterpillar is working hard - gnawing,
rubbing gums, drooling (although she's been drooly for
months), and running a low-grade fever (forehead is warm
when kissed, but not hot). Hyland's Teething Tablets work
remarkably well (we aren't big believers in homeopathy, but
I don't see any harm in a sugar pill now and then). We've
also been giving Tylenol when she's both warm and gnawing.

Allyson's mom thought she felt warmer than usual this
evening, so we took an armpit temp (not as reliable, but
less trouble), which was 99.4 (37.4C) after adding a degree.
She'd had a full dose of Tylenol (dosed by weight) 2 hours
earlier, so I was surprised she was still warm. (And after
4 hours, we're at 99.6.)

She's a little calmer and sleepier than normal, but still
bright-eyed and cheerful and well-looking. Allyson's mom
thinks she sounds mucousy, but I think it's just excess
drool in the back of her throat. Her nursing was a bit off
earlier, but once the Tylenol kicked in, she had 2 or 3 big
meals in a row. (Nurse, nap, nurse, play, nurse.)

Does this sound like normal teething stuff?

Phoebe :)
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[New York Jen]

"Phoebe & Allyson" > wrote in message
...
> Nothing visible, but Caterpillar is working hard - gnawing,
> rubbing gums, drooling (although she's been drooly for
> months), and running a low-grade fever (forehead is warm
> when kissed, but not hot). Hyland's Teething Tablets work
> remarkably well (we aren't big believers in homeopathy, but
> I don't see any harm in a sugar pill now and then). We've
> also been giving Tylenol when she's both warm and gnawing.
>
> Allyson's mom thought she felt warmer than usual this
> evening, so we took an armpit temp (not as reliable, but
> less trouble), which was 99.4 (37.4C) after adding a degree.
> She'd had a full dose of Tylenol (dosed by weight) 2 hours
> earlier, so I was surprised she was still warm. (And after
> 4 hours, we're at 99.6.)
>
> She's a little calmer and sleepier than normal, but still
> bright-eyed and cheerful and well-looking. Allyson's mom
> thinks she sounds mucousy, but I think it's just excess
> drool in the back of her throat. Her nursing was a bit off
> earlier, but once the Tylenol kicked in, she had 2 or 3 big
> meals in a row. (Nurse, nap, nurse, play, nurse.)
>
> Does this sound like normal teething stuff?
>
> Phoebe :)


Totally sounds like normal teething stuff! And my doctors say a fever is
anything over 100.4, so 99.4 is completely in the clear. Temperature is
higher at night in general anyway.

Also, if her mood is fine, then even a slight fever really doesn't matter.

I gave Laszlo Hyland's and Humphrey's at first too, then just relied on
Tylenol when he was really in pain. Sounds like Caterpillar (dying to know
her real name) was uncomfortable before and then the medicine made her feel
better, so she was able to nurse like a champ and relax.

This is only the beginning! Laszlo's 20 months and still teething like
crazy on his 2 year molars! Hopefully this is the last of it for a long
while!

Good luck, she sounds just fine,

Jen

[Bruce and Jeanne]

Phoebe & Allyson wrote:

> Nothing visible, but Caterpillar is working hard - gnawing,
> rubbing gums, drooling (although she's been drooly for
> months), and running a low-grade fever (forehead is warm
> when kissed, but not hot). Hyland's Teething Tablets work
> remarkably well (we aren't big believers in homeopathy, but
> I don't see any harm in a sugar pill now and then). We've
> also been giving Tylenol when she's both warm and gnawing.
>

Dumb question here - what is Hyland's suppose to do? DS is also (still?)
teething - we finally realized that because a tooth (lower front) poked
through. He's still drooling and not sleeping well. No fever though.


> Does this sound like normal teething stuff?
>

It does to me but I don't usually recognize teething until *after* I see
a tooth...

Jeanne
> Phoebe :)
>

[Jodie]

Sounds completely normal. A couple of weeks ago, dd had what I consider
*high* temps. 102 range, I even had to call after-hours one evening.
Anyway, a couple days of fever, followed by a few wrestless nights (even
took her to the doc to rule out ear infection), she popped her top two
teeth out and settled right down. We had wrestless nights (absent
fever) a few nights ago and Tuesday, I saw two more teeth.

Orajel never really helped my other two, but when this all started, I
was giving her Tylenol and rubbing a very little bit of Orajel on her
gums at night and that seemed to help her settle a bit better.

Now, if she would just stop scraping those new teeth on my nipple, we'd
all be happy.

Hope she is feeling better soon:)

Jodie

[JennP]

"Bruce and Jeanne" > wrote in message
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> Dumb question here - what is Hyland's suppose to do?

In our experience it did nothing. Some here report success.
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[Nikki]

JennP wrote:
> "Bruce and Jeanne" > wrote in message
> ...
>
>> Dumb question here - what is Hyland's suppose to do?
>
> In our experience it did nothing. Some here report success.

It worked great for Hunter when he was between 4-9 months. I used it when
he was just to overtired to settle into a sleep. I don't think Hunter
suffered much from teething pain. It didn't do anything for Luke but his
crankiness was directly related to teething pain. That is why I think there
is something in there to help them relax and not a thing to for pain relief.
I don't know anything about that stuff though.


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Nikki
Mama to Hunter (4) and Luke (2)

[Phoebe & Allyson]

Bruce and Jeanne wrote:

> what is Hyland's suppose to do?

Whatever any homeopathic stuff is supposed to do, I guess.
As far as I'm concerned, it shouldn't work at all. Since it
only keeps her fuss-free for half an hour or so, I think the
sugar distracts her. (Same theory as giving a baby a
pacifier dipped in sugar during c*rc.)

Phoebe :)
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[Sue]

Nikki > wrote in message
That is why I think there
> is something in there to help them relax and not a thing to for pain
relief.
> I don't know anything about that stuff though.

I tried to find what was in them, but couldn't find any information. I am
suspicious of them, especially if they contain alcohol or even just sugar.
Doesn't seem like too good of a thing to give a baby. I think I would rather
give Tylenol for the pain.
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Sue (mom to three girls)
I'm Just a Raggedy Ann in a Barbie Doll World...

[New York Jen]

"Phoebe & Allyson" > wrote in message
...
> New York Jen wrote:
>
> > Caterpillar (dying to know her real name)
>
> Alexandra. If you google her birth announcement, it's there.
>
> Phoebe :)
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Ah, ok! Was just curious, I know some moms and dads don't like to post
their kids' names due to privacy...didn't mean to impose!

Hope she's feeling better!

[Phoebe & Allyson]

Sue wrote:

> I tried to find what was in them, but couldn't find any information.

In their defense, it's printed right on the label. :)
Calcium phosphate (3x, which is 1 part per thousand)
Chamomile (3x)
Coffee (3x)
Belladonna (3x)
Lactose

So it's essentially sugar with a little calcium, chamomile,
caffeine, and poison. ;)

> I am
> suspicious of them, especially if they contain alcohol or even just sugar.
> Doesn't seem like too good of a thing to give a baby. I think I would rather
> give Tylenol for the pain.

I don't see that Tylenol is a lesser evil than sugar pills,
but the Tylenol does work better.

Phoebe :)
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[Elaine]

In article >, Phoebe & Allyson wrote:
> I don't see that Tylenol is a lesser evil than sugar pills,
> but the Tylenol does work better.

Mmm - given that infant tylenol drops has a slew of ingredients
that I personally wouldn't want to give to an infant, I would
find it to be more evil than sugar pills. However, if it works,
you can balance a little evil that doesn't work against a
bigger evil that does work. ;)

Elaine (who isn't quite sure why tylenol drops need both
sorbitol *and* corn syrup)

[Phoebe & Allyson]

New York Jen wrote:

> Was just curious, I know some moms and dads don't like to post
> their kids' names due to privacy...didn't mean to impose!

No imposition at all. I use Caterpillar more than anything
else, but it's mostly because she just didn't look like an
Alex when she was born, and we still don't call her that
very much. It's less confusing to have one Usenet nickname
than the array of names we call her. (She was "veal" for a
few days in the very beginning.)


> Hope she's feeling better!

Mouth-related woes seem to have eased a bit. Bottom-related
woes have picked up. (She has an anal fissure that was
causing an occasional streak of blood in poopy diapers. Ped
checked it at her 4 month wbv, and said it wasn't anything
more serious. Poopy diaper just changed had a lot more
blood (maybe a nickel-sized spot). Waiting for call-back
from ped.)

Phoebe :)
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[Phoebe & Allyson]

Elaine wrote:

> Elaine (who isn't quite sure why tylenol drops need both
> sorbitol *and* corn syrup)
Makes it tastier, is my guess. :)


On a sugar-pill-related note, the lactose in the teething
tablets was pure enough that it didn't trigger the reaction
she has to even small amounts of milk in my diet.


Phoebe :)
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[Dawn Lawson]

Sue wrote:

> Nikki > wrote in message
> That is why I think there
>
>>is something in there to help them relax and not a thing to for pain
>
> relief.
>
>>I don't know anything about that stuff though.
>
>
> I tried to find what was in them, but couldn't find any information. I am
> suspicious of them, especially if they contain alcohol or even just sugar.
> Doesn't seem like too good of a thing to give a baby. I think I would rather
> give Tylenol for the pain.

Pft.
Baby tylenol has plenty of sugar (corn syrup) *and* D&C Red #40, *and*
Propylene Glycol *and* Sorbitol, amongst other ingredients.
Acetaminophen alone is not without its own risks, of course (overdose, etc)

Certainly, the pharmacists I worked with prefered acetaminophen
formulations over ibuprofen (advil/motrin/etc) or A.S.A. (aspirin) products.

Dawn

[Mogget]

In message >, Phoebe & Allyson
> writes

>On a sugar-pill-related note, the lactose in the teething tablets was
>pure enough that it didn't trigger the reaction she has to even small
>amounts of milk in my diet.

Interesting. May I ask, how does she react to milk in your diet? (And
how old is she, please remind me, I'm very tired).

And do you mean specifically cow's milk, or does that include
goat/sheep/dog/%mammal?
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

[Mogget]

In message >,
Jodie > writes
>Sounds completely normal. A couple of weeks ago, dd had what I consider
>*high* temps. 102 range, I even had to call after-hours one evening.
>Anyway, a couple days of fever, followed by a few wrestless nights (even
>took her to the doc to rule out ear infection), she popped her top two
>teeth out and settled right down. We had wrestless nights (absent
>fever) a few nights ago and Tuesday, I saw two more teeth.

The poor little love. My nine-month DD is suffering a lot with teething
at the moment too. Such a shame that being a baby has to be so painful,
what with colic, trapped wind, teething and all those bumps and knocks
(yet to come... mostly).
--
Mogget, the Churl in the Puce Greatcoat

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Phoebe & Allyson > wrote:
> Nothing visible, but Caterpillar is working hard - gnawing,
> rubbing gums, drooling (although she's been drooly for
> months), and running a low-grade fever (forehead is warm
> when kissed, but not hot). Hyland's Teething Tablets work
> remarkably well (we aren't big believers in homeopathy, but
> I don't see any harm in a sugar pill now and then). We've
> also been giving Tylenol when she's both warm and gnawing.

> Allyson's mom thought she felt warmer than usual this
> evening, so we took an armpit temp (not as reliable, but
> less trouble), which was 99.4 (37.4C) after adding a degree.
> She'd had a full dose of Tylenol (dosed by weight) 2 hours
> earlier, so I was surprised she was still warm. (And after
> 4 hours, we're at 99.6.)

> She's a little calmer and sleepier than normal, but still
> bright-eyed and cheerful and well-looking. Allyson's mom
> thinks she sounds mucousy, but I think it's just excess
> drool in the back of her throat. Her nursing was a bit off
> earlier, but once the Tylenol kicked in, she had 2 or 3 big
> meals in a row. (Nurse, nap, nurse, play, nurse.)

> Does this sound like normal teething stuff?

My FIL (a dentist) claims that teething does not cause fevers. Apparently,
that is what they teach in dental school. Most mothers seem to disagree.
;)

Manda

[Phoebe & Allyson]

Mogget wrote:

> how does she react to milk in your diet? (And
> how old is she, please remind me, I'm very tired).

She'll be 5 months old on Halloween (October 31). Primarily
she reacts with nasty mucousy dark-green poop. I've been
mostly milk-free (no poopy effects from small amounts of
milk or by-products in baked / processed food, so I'm not
strict about avoiding those) for a month or so now.

Monday I was gone longer than expected, and she got 2 ounces
of freezer stash from the days when I'd have a lot of dairy.
She had her worst eczema flare-up in 2 months by the time
I did get home. So it's possible the residual eczema is due
to the small amounts of "hidden" milk in stuff, or it's
possible that the residual eczema is something else
altogether, and the milk protein just makes it worse.


> And do you mean specifically cow's milk, or does that include
> goat/sheep/dog/%mammal?

Well, I haven't been drinking much from goats, sheep, or
dogs. ;) My understanding is that kids allergic to cow's
milk proteins are also likely to react to goat's milk. I
suspect the farther removed mammal X is from cows, the less
likely a reaction. But I don't have any particular desire
to go around sampling milk from less commonly milked animals.

Phoebe :)
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