my highly intellegent daughter

[Stephanie and Tim]

STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather not
spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some idea
of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
selection of bottles, beleive it or not.

Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle." I am
concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having taken a
bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws would
be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add their
stress to the equation than DH is.

Any words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day I
have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary, they
would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)

Thanks

S

[lynn]

In article >,
"Stephanie and Tim" > wrote:

> STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather not
> spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
> will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some idea
> of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
>
> Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle." I am
> concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having taken a
> bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
> harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws would
> be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add their
> stress to the equation than DH is.
>
> Any words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
> addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day I
> have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary, they
> would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
>
> Thanks
>
> S
>
>

A few weeks ago you said that FIL successfully gave her a bottle. So
definitely work with them again, if you can. And once she takes a
bottle, keep giving her (that is, have someone else give her) one every
day for a while so she stays in practice.

What did the trick for me was making sure the milk was really warm.
Warmer than I would've thought to make it, but then I guess it comes out
body temperature naturally...

- Lynn

[Mary W.]

Richard wrote:

> Stephanie and Tim > wrote:
> : STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> : thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather not
> : spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
> : will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some idea
> : of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> : selection of bottles, beleive it or not.

My daughter could not figure out the Avent nipples. Just couldn't get them
to work. The Playtex nurser was the only nipple she'd take, and I know my grocery
store carries them, so you may be able to try that. She never did take the bottle
well though. Enough to get through the day and nursed like crazy at night (she
never took more than
10-12 ounces a day from the bottle and once she started solids even less).: Any
words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in

> : addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day I
> : have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary, they
> : would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> : Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
> :
> : Thanks
>
> Stephanie, are you around when you are trying to bottle feed? Try giving
> a bottle to DH and going for a walk. If DD knows you are around, she may
> wait for the breast. If you are nowhere to be seen, she may be more likely
> to feed from a bottle.

I second this advice. Also, our nanny could get our daughter to take the bottle if
she was distracted - she usually put on her baby mozart video and propped her up
in her carseat and then she'd take the bottle. I know its stressfull, but most
likely your caregiver will figure something out. Getting the grandparents to try a
couple more times is probably a great idea.

Mary

[Andrea]

"Stephanie and Tim" > wrote in message
...
> STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather
not
> spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
> will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some idea
> of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
>
> Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle." I
am
> concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having taken
a
> bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
> harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws would
> be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add their
> stress to the equation than DH is.
>
> Any words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
> addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day I
> have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary, they
> would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
>
> Thanks
>
> S
>
>

How about ditching the bottle, and feeding her from a cup? (without the lid
like they do when a baby can't be nursed right after the birth).

--
Andrea mom of 5 - latest addition Kamron David 5 months 20lbs

[Irish Marie]

"Stephanie and Tim" > wrote in message
...
> STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather
not
> spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
> will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some idea
> of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
>
> Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle." I
am
> concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having taken
a
> bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
> harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws would
> be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add their
> stress to the equation than DH is.
>
> Any words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
> addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day I
> have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary, they
> would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
>
> Thanks
>
> S

My DS went off bottles for a while a number of weeks ago, he kept spitting
the teat out and like you I didn't want to go forking out for a whole new
range of bottles and teats. I happened to be shopping one day and saw a
bottle on sale for ?1.50, it was a generic brand of the pharmacy it was
bought in. Anyway i tried that later on with him and he took it straight
away, it had a softer teat. But luckily it kind of taught him to use a teat
and he went back to Avent teats without any problems. We have since bought
some more different teats and he is managing great.
--
Marie
Mum of 3
DD born 03/98, DS1 born 11/99 DS2 born 08/03

>
>

[Phoebe & Allyson]

Stephanie and Tim wrote:

> (I tried explaining that without my salary, they
> would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)

Maybe an afternoon in Nanna and Bubba's basement will
convince her. ;) I think having your in-laws try giving a
bottle is a good idea. Alternatively, she may take to
cup-feeding, or a valveless sippy cup (held by the
bottle-giver, otherwise a waste of bm), or a straw (straw
into cup of milk, finger over end of straw, full end into
mouth, finger off of end, spluttering baby).

Phoebe :)
--
yahoo address is unread - substitute mailbolt

[Stephanie and Tim]

"lynn" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> "Stephanie and Tim" > wrote:
>
> > STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> > thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather
not
> > spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
> > will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some
idea
> > of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> > selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
> >
> > Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle."
I am
> > concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having
taken a
> > bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
> > harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws
would
> > be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add
their
> > stress to the equation than DH is.
> >
> > Any words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
> > addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day
I
> > have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary,
they
> > would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> > Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > S
> >
> >
>
> A few weeks ago you said that FIL successfully gave her a bottle. So
> definitely work with them again, if you can. And once she takes a
> bottle, keep giving her (that is, have someone else give her) one every
> day for a while so she stays in practice.
>

It's weird, since then she has refused, even from him. I think that was our
error, not continuing on the successful trend.

> What did the trick for me was making sure the milk was really warm.
> Warmer than I would've thought to make it, but then I guess it comes out
> body temperature naturally...
>
> - Lynn

Thanks!

S

[Stephanie and Tim]

"Richard" > wrote in message
...
> Stephanie and Tim > wrote:
> : STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> : thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY rather
not
> : spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent. I
> : will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some
idea
> : of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> : selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
> :
> : Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle."
I am
> : concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having
taken a
> : bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
> : harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws
would
> : be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add
their
> : stress to the equation than DH is.
> :
> : Any words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
> : addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky day
I
> : have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary,
they
> : would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> : Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
> :
> : Thanks
>
> Stephanie, are you around when you are trying to bottle feed? Try giving
> a bottle to DH and going for a walk. If DD knows you are around, she may
> wait for the breast. If you are nowhere to be seen, she may be more
likely
> to feed from a bottle.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Richard
> Micaela's dad

Done both ways. I think that my absence is requisite.

Thanks!

S

[Stephanie and Tim]

"Mary W." > wrote in message
...
>
>
> Richard wrote:
>
> > Stephanie and Tim > wrote:
> > : STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the
only
> > : thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY
rather not
> > : spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent.
I
> > : will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some
idea
> > : of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> > : selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
>
> My daughter could not figure out the Avent nipples. Just couldn't get them
> to work. The Playtex nurser was the only nipple she'd take, and I know my
grocery
> store carries them, so you may be able to try that. She never did take the
bottle
> well though. Enough to get through the day and nursed like crazy at night
(she
> never took more than

Is the Playtex nurser one the disposable one?

> 10-12 ounces a day from the bottle and once she started solids even
less).: Any
> words of wisdom would ease my mind. If she would take a bottle in
>
> > : addition to the breast, I would feel much more at ease for the yucky
day I
> > : have to go back to work. (I tried explaining that without my salary,
they
> > : would forclose on our mortgage and we would have to live in Nanna and
> > : Bubba's basement, but she was not impressed. :)
> > :
> > : Thanks
> >
> > Stephanie, are you around when you are trying to bottle feed? Try
giving
> > a bottle to DH and going for a walk. If DD knows you are around, she
may
> > wait for the breast. If you are nowhere to be seen, she may be more
likely
> > to feed from a bottle.
>
> I second this advice. Also, our nanny could get our daughter to take the
bottle if
> she was distracted - she usually put on her baby mozart video and propped
her up
> in her carseat and then she'd take the bottle. I know its stressfull, but
most
> likely your caregiver will figure something out. Getting the grandparents
to try a
> couple more times is probably a great idea.
>
> Mary
>
>

[Anonymommmy]

"Stephanie and Tim" > wrote in message >...
> STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the only
> thing we have not tried is different bottle types.

I remember how stressful it was when DD was learning how to take a
bottle. That was no fun at all for any of us. It doesn't help that
when they're at the stage of learning to take the bottle, they're
still at the stage of lots of nighttime feedings, so you're still
sleep-deprived.

We eventually learned that DD preferred one particular type of Platex
nipple.

>
> Often I have heard, "if she is hungry enough she will take the bottle." I am
> concerned about returning for a whole day of work without her having taken a
> bottle. Should I dump her on my inlaws for several hours? It seems kinda
> harsh, but gentle is not working. I think that sending her to inlaws would
> be good because they are vastly more patient and less likely to add their
> stress to the equation than DH is.

When DD was learning to take the bottle, our ped suggested I go out
without her for a half day or a full day, because when she got hungry
enough she'd take the bottle. (I never had the guts to do it though.)
The ped also said that on the off chance that I was away from her for
a full day and she _didn't_ take the bottle, she wouldn't get totally
dehydrated.


Anonymommmy
DD 9/02

[little bunny fu-fu]

In article >,
says...
>
> "Mary W." > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> >
> > Richard wrote:
> >
> > > Stephanie and Tim > wrote:
> > > : STILL will not take a bottle. Of the suggestions I have heard, the
> only
> > > : thing we have not tried is different bottle types. I would REALLY
> rather not
> > > : spend more money on new bottles when we have the mother-load of Avent.
> I
> > > : will if I must, of course. But I do not want to spend $$ without some
> idea
> > > : of success liklihood. I live about an hour from a store with a wide
> > > : selection of bottles, beleive it or not.
> >
> > My daughter could not figure out the Avent nipples. Just couldn't get them
> > to work. The Playtex nurser was the only nipple she'd take, and I know my
> grocery
> > store carries them, so you may be able to try that. She never did take the
> bottle
> > well though. Enough to get through the day and nursed like crazy at night
> (she
> > never took more than
>
> Is the Playtex nurser one the disposable one?
>

yes, My 10 mo old will only take those with the silicone nipple that
sorta resembles the advent one. I think she doesn't like the "taste" of
the rubber ones....and my older boy didn't take a bottle til he was
around 8 months old. he never took milk in it ...he'd only accept water.
I second the advice on warmer milk though, seems to do the trick for us.

--

Christine

if you want to feel rich, look at all the things you have that money
can't buy

Destiny sketches out our lifes blueprint with
the pencil of our perceptions...... Erase the limiting ones.

[Akuvikate]

We figured out the bottle problem with the Bug just a few days before
the first time I had to be away for a full day. Prior to that she
went 5 hours without eating rather than take a bottle -- despite being
ravenously hungry, the whole time she only cried when my mom tried to
give her a bottle. In our case there were two things that made a
difference:
1. She likes the fast-flow old fashioned playtex nurser. My mom, who
has experience with bottles, says it's such fast flow it kind of
scares her, but if it's what the Bug will take than I can't argue with
that. I know people worry about bottle preference, but so far your
daughter seems at pretty low risk of that :-)
2. I have high lipase in my milk, so after it's been pumped and stored
for any length of time it's vile. I need to heat it immediately after
pumping to inactivate the lipase. You could try smelling your milk or
giving her something just freshly pumped to see if it agrees with her
more.

If you don't solve the problem before you start work, you're probably
not too badly up a creek. Before my daylong interview I checked with
a pediatrician friend of mine, and she said even if the Bug went all
day without eating (even for a few days running) she'd be perfectly
OK. And anecdotally I've heard of several babies that refused bottles
the first few days mom was back at work (without necessarily screaming
the whole time) and then finally started taking them just fine.

Kate
and the Bug, June 8 2003