Dateline & Spanking *Blood Brothers* Discrepancy in story

[Fern5827]

The brother who did the actual murder says his parents spanked him
APPROPRIATELY.

The brother who was collaterally conviced of murder--but then released --said
that the spankings he received made him WORK WITH HIS BRO IN ROBBERY AND
MURDER.

All children are individuals. When the state intrudes into families and when
the aparatchicks like Straus apppear to confirm the universal law that spanking
is TANTAMOUNT TO CHILD ABUSE, it makes one distrust the complete apparatus of
government.

"Whores of the Court" confirms that the cadre of LE, psychologists, social
workers, CPS workers are acting to keep their sinecures, not to remediate
situations.

Criminalizing good-enough parents is an extremely dangerous tactic on the part
of social service agencies.

http://www.familyrightsassociation.com OR based--many other family support
groups in OR for those batting SCF or SoSCF

DESCRIPTORS; OREGON, FAMILY LAW, ABUSE, NEGLECT, SOCIAL SERVICES,FOSTER CARE,
ASFA, CPS, due process

[LaVonne Carlson]

Good grief, Fern. If ever a testimonial existed for legally banning disciplinary
spanking, this is one of the best I have seen. Quit hitting kids and start
parenting in ways that do not hurt or shame children. Begin parenting in ways
that help children develop impulse control, responsibility, empathy, and the
ability to make good choices.

Perhaps if neither child had been hit but had been parented differently there
would have been no murder.

LaVonne

Fern5827 wrote:

> The brother who did the actual murder says his parents spanked him
> APPROPRIATELY.
>
> The brother who was collaterally conviced of murder--but then released --said
> that the spankings he received made him WORK WITH HIS BRO IN ROBBERY AND
> MURDER.
>
> All children are individuals. When the state intrudes into families and when
> the aparatchicks like Straus apppear to confirm the universal law that spanking
> is TANTAMOUNT TO CHILD ABUSE, it makes one distrust the complete apparatus of
> government.
>
> "Whores of the Court" confirms that the cadre of LE, psychologists, social
> workers, CPS workers are acting to keep their sinecures, not to remediate
> situations.
>
> Criminalizing good-enough parents is an extremely dangerous tactic on the part
> of social service agencies.
>
> http://www.familyrightsassociation.com OR based--many other family support
> groups in OR for those batting SCF or SoSCF
>
> DESCRIPTORS; OREGON, FAMILY LAW, ABUSE, NEGLECT, SOCIAL SERVICES,FOSTER CARE,
> ASFA, CPS, due process

[LaVonne Carlson]

Hey Fern,

Do you have difficulty responding to individuals who challenge your posts, or do you
simply exist on the ng for the purpose of spreading propaganda, unfounded and
uninformed conclusions drawn from websites and popular media? How about a little
discussion and debate here?

LaVonne

LaVonne Carlson wrote:

> Good grief, Fern. If ever a testimonial existed for legally banning disciplinary
> spanking, this is one of the best I have seen. Quit hitting kids and start
> parenting in ways that do not hurt or shame children. Begin parenting in ways
> that help children develop impulse control, responsibility, empathy, and the
> ability to make good choices.
>
> Perhaps if neither child had been hit but had been parented differently there
> would have been no murder.
>
> LaVonne
>
> Fern5827 wrote:
>
> > The brother who did the actual murder says his parents spanked him
> > APPROPRIATELY.
> >
> > The brother who was collaterally conviced of murder--but then released --said
> > that the spankings he received made him WORK WITH HIS BRO IN ROBBERY AND
> > MURDER.
> >
> > All children are individuals. When the state intrudes into families and when
> > the aparatchicks like Straus apppear to confirm the universal law that spanking
> > is TANTAMOUNT TO CHILD ABUSE, it makes one distrust the complete apparatus of
> > government.
> >
> > "Whores of the Court" confirms that the cadre of LE, psychologists, social
> > workers, CPS workers are acting to keep their sinecures, not to remediate
> > situations.
> >
> > Criminalizing good-enough parents is an extremely dangerous tactic on the part
> > of social service agencies.
> >
> > http://www.familyrightsassociation.com OR based--many other family support
> > groups in OR for those batting SCF or SoSCF
> >
> > DESCRIPTORS; OREGON, FAMILY LAW, ABUSE, NEGLECT, SOCIAL SERVICES,FOSTER CARE,
> > ASFA, CPS, due process

[Doan]

Gee! Is this the same LaVonne who is running away from debating me???

Doan

On Thu, 18 Sep 2003, LaVonne Carlson wrote:

> Hey Fern,
>
> Do you have difficulty responding to individuals who challenge your posts, or do you
> simply exist on the ng for the purpose of spreading propaganda, unfounded and
> uninformed conclusions drawn from websites and popular media? How about a little
> discussion and debate here?
>
> LaVonne
>
> LaVonne Carlson wrote:
>
> > Good grief, Fern. If ever a testimonial existed for legally banning disciplinary
> > spanking, this is one of the best I have seen. Quit hitting kids and start
> > parenting in ways that do not hurt or shame children. Begin parenting in ways
> > that help children develop impulse control, responsibility, empathy, and the
> > ability to make good choices.
> >
> > Perhaps if neither child had been hit but had been parented differently there
> > would have been no murder.
> >
> > LaVonne
> >
> > Fern5827 wrote:
> >
> > > The brother who did the actual murder says his parents spanked him
> > > APPROPRIATELY.
> > >
> > > The brother who was collaterally conviced of murder--but then released --said
> > > that the spankings he received made him WORK WITH HIS BRO IN ROBBERY AND
> > > MURDER.
> > >
> > > All children are individuals. When the state intrudes into families and when
> > > the aparatchicks like Straus apppear to confirm the universal law that spanking
> > > is TANTAMOUNT TO CHILD ABUSE, it makes one distrust the complete apparatus of
> > > government.
> > >
> > > "Whores of the Court" confirms that the cadre of LE, psychologists, social
> > > workers, CPS workers are acting to keep their sinecures, not to remediate
> > > situations.
> > >
> > > Criminalizing good-enough parents is an extremely dangerous tactic on the part
> > > of social service agencies.
> > >
> > > http://www.familyrightsassociation.com OR based--many other family support
> > > groups in OR for those batting SCF or SoSCF
> > >
> > > DESCRIPTORS; OREGON, FAMILY LAW, ABUSE, NEGLECT, SOCIAL SERVICES,FOSTER CARE,
> > > ASFA, CPS, due process
>
>