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LaVonne
October 9th 03, 09:50 AM
All states should require that ALL parents should be licensed to raise
'their' children. It is obvious that most parents are not capable of
rearing 'their' children properly. Parents should be licensed by the
state in order to assure that they will completely comply with ALL
state requirements to be fit parents! Parents who do not comply with
all state requirements should forfeit 'their' children to the state
without exception. Of course idiots will fight licensing parents, but
it will happen irregardless. Proper parenting requires state mandated
parental education. It really does take a village to raise a child, a
LARGE village.

LaVonne

Michael S. Morris
October 10th 03, 10:24 PM
Friday, the 10th of October, 2003

LaVonne writes:
All states should require that ALL parents should
be licensed to raise 'their' children. []

I read about a professor somewhere advocating this.
My wife said she thought it would be a good idea.
Except, she added, what would they then do about
the resulting murder rate?

Mike Morris
)

Kane
October 11th 03, 08:12 AM
On 10 Oct 2003 14:24:05 -0700, (Michael S.
Morris) wrote:

>Friday, the 10th of October, 2003
>
>LaVonne writes:
> All states should require that ALL parents should
> be licensed to raise 'their' children. []
>
>I read about a professor somewhere advocating this.
>My wife said she thought it would be a good idea.
>Except, she added, what would they then do about
>the resulting murder rate?
>
> Mike Morris
> )

Actually Mike that was a forged post. Something the spanking
apologists do, among other mean and cruel things.

The real LaVonne would not say that.

Nor would I. I do think she agrees with me on what assault is now and
what it should be as regards children...but that is aside from the
fact that question of how we raise our children should forever be
first a moral question.

Only a little good might come of taking children from their parents
for being spanked.

The great good will come the day a parent, themselves spanked, become
brave enough to face their own demons. When they respond to the little
voice in them, though quickly shut down, that says, when you prepare
to strike with that first spank in the series, "don't do it, please
don't hit our beloved child who trusts you."

Some day, Mike. It will happen for you and I'll be the first to
celebrate with you if you cared to share it with me.

I never spanked, but when I used other punishments, and that very
rarely, I heard that voice. The one that told me I was betraying my
child out of my own ignorance and laziness.

Quick fixes...

I learned. So can you.

Feel yourself hardening up against the thought as you read this? That
is the spanked child in you terrified to come out.

Next time you prepare to spank, take your child in your arms first and
look deeply into his or her eyes. Ask yourself what you see. Then go
ahead and spank them.

The number of times you can do that and continue to spank is the
measure of how you have been compromised ethically. You have been cut
off from empathy. It's not your fault.

It is if you continue to spank.

Take care.

Kane

LaVonne Carlson
October 12th 03, 03:40 AM
I did not write the post below, nor do I use the email attributed to me.
This has been reported to the U and is being investigated. Beware --
there is someone on the ng that is able to hack into accounts and create
false posts.

LaVonne (who does not use hotmail and certainly has never signed her name
as is listed).



LaVonne wrote:

> All states should require that ALL parents should be licensed to raise
> 'their' children. It is obvious that most parents are not capable of
> rearing 'their' children properly. Parents should be licensed by the
> state in order to assure that they will completely comply with ALL
> state requirements to be fit parents! Parents who do not comply with
> all state requirements should forfeit 'their' children to the state
> without exception. Of course idiots will fight licensing parents, but
> it will happen irregardless. Proper parenting requires state mandated
> parental education. It really does take a village to raise a child, a
> LARGE village.
>
> LaVonne

LaVonne Carlson
October 12th 03, 03:43 AM
Mike,

I did not write this. Someone is using my name and writing from a
hotmail account. The username is phony as is the account I am
supposedly writing from. Someone on this ng is hacking or creating
phony accounts in other's names. It's not that hard to do. I have
experienced multiple problems on my legitimate email account as a result
of this, all which is being investigated.

LaVonne

"Michael S. Morris" wrote:

> Friday, the 10th of October, 2003
>
> LaVonne writes:
> All states should require that ALL parents should
> be licensed to raise 'their' children. []
>
> I read about a professor somewhere advocating this.
> My wife said she thought it would be a good idea.
> Except, she added, what would they then do about
> the resulting murder rate?
>
> Mike Morris
> )

LaVonne Carlson
October 12th 03, 03:44 AM
No Kane. I did not say that. I did not write this message, nor have I
written others that are showing up with a hotmail account and a username
and signature I have never used. This is currently under investigation.

LaVonne

Kane wrote:

> On 10 Oct 2003 14:24:05 -0700, (Michael S.
> Morris) wrote:
>
> >Friday, the 10th of October, 2003
> >
> >LaVonne writes:
> > All states should require that ALL parents should
> > be licensed to raise 'their' children. []
> >
> >I read about a professor somewhere advocating this.
> >My wife said she thought it would be a good idea.
> >Except, she added, what would they then do about
> >the resulting murder rate?
> >
> > Mike Morris
> > )
>
> Actually Mike that was a forged post. Something the spanking
> apologists do, among other mean and cruel things.
>
> The real LaVonne would not say that.
>
> Nor would I. I do think she agrees with me on what assault is now and
> what it should be as regards children...but that is aside from the
> fact that question of how we raise our children should forever be
> first a moral question.
>
> Only a little good might come of taking children from their parents
> for being spanked.
>
> The great good will come the day a parent, themselves spanked, become
> brave enough to face their own demons. When they respond to the little
> voice in them, though quickly shut down, that says, when you prepare
> to strike with that first spank in the series, "don't do it, please
> don't hit our beloved child who trusts you."
>
> Some day, Mike. It will happen for you and I'll be the first to
> celebrate with you if you cared to share it with me.
>
> I never spanked, but when I used other punishments, and that very
> rarely, I heard that voice. The one that told me I was betraying my
> child out of my own ignorance and laziness.
>
> Quick fixes...
>
> I learned. So can you.
>
> Feel yourself hardening up against the thought as you read this? That
> is the spanked child in you terrified to come out.
>
> Next time you prepare to spank, take your child in your arms first and
> look deeply into his or her eyes. Ask yourself what you see. Then go
> ahead and spank them.
>
> The number of times you can do that and continue to spank is the
> measure of how you have been compromised ethically. You have been cut
> off from empathy. It's not your fault.
>
> It is if you continue to spank.
>
> Take care.
>
> Kane