any comments

[KEITH CRABILL]

i just want some input on the situation im in.i havent seen or heard
from my xwife in almosy 3 yrs the same for my boys.and the rest of her
family in almost 4 yrs.and dont look like they r going to make any
contact anytime soon. my ? is when they do try to come around
should i let them see the boys.even though on her family is very hostile
toward me and my x likes to make false comments like i have moved alot
in the past 4 yrs.which is not true i have been in the same place since
all this started.and that her and her family hasnt been able to call me
on the phone which is also a false statement cause i have my number
listed for the reason so she can call me.she has used this b4 and well
lets just say i had my ducks in a roll.and it made her look real
stupid.but should i have some timetable like if u dont try to comtact us
or come by in like the next 2 to 3 yrs its over or how should i handle
this .hope i am making sense.

[turtledove]

"KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
...
> i just want some input on the situation im in.i havent seen or heard
> from my xwife in almosy 3 yrs the same for my boys.and the rest of her
> family in almost 4 yrs.and dont look like they r going to make any
> contact anytime soon. my ? is when they do try to come around
> should i let them see the boys.even though on her family is very hostile
> toward me and my x likes to make false comments like i have moved alot
> in the past 4 yrs.which is not true i have been in the same place since
> all this started.and that her and her family hasnt been able to call me
> on the phone which is also a false statement cause i have my number
> listed for the reason so she can call me.she has used this b4 and well
> lets just say i had my ducks in a roll.and it made her look real
> stupid.but should i have some timetable like if u dont try to comtact us
> or come by in like the next 2 to 3 yrs its over or how should i handle
> this .hope i am making sense.


Keith,

I'm beggin you. My eyes can't read what you've written above very well.
Mainly because it looks like one big run on sentence. I have double vision
and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.

If I read it correctly you are asking should your ex and her family be able
to see your kids. The answer to this is yes. In some way or fashion you
should let your children see their mother and her family.

I know I'm sounding bitchy about the way you've written, but to be honest,
I'm seriously going to have to ignore your posts if it doesn't change.

thanks,

*bri

[turtledove]

"KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
...
> i never claim to be a good grammar student
>
I didn't say anything about your grammar. I simply asked if you could not
write everything as one long run on sentence. It wasn't an insult....it was
a request. Big difference.

If I can't read a post, I can't respond to it. Sorry.

*b

[dolores]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
. com...
>
> "KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
> ...

snip

I have double vision
> and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.

LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double the
amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......

So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly across the
street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just go
back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just left!?!?!

Dolores

[©kat©]

"dolores" wrote in message ...
>
> "turtledove" wrote in message ...
> >
> > "KEITH CRABILL" wrote in message ...
>
> snip
>
> I have double vision
> > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
>
> LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double the
> amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
>
> So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly across
the
> street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just go
> back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just left!?!?!
>
> Dolores
>
>



What?? Probably just me, but that made no sense at all.
It wasn't even close to funny, but, again, it is probably just me.

[dolores]

"©kat©" > wrote in message
...
>
> "dolores" wrote in message ...
> >
> > "turtledove" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > > "KEITH CRABILL" wrote in message ...
> >
> > snip
> >
> > I have double vision
> > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> >
> > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double the
> > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> >
> > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly across
> the
> > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just go
> > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
left!?!?!
> >
> > Dolores
> >
> >
>
>
>
> What?? Probably just me, but that made no sense at all.
> It wasn't even close to funny, but, again, it is probably just me.
>
>

LOL....Made peeeerfect sense to me......I thought it was
hilarious......nearly peed me pants and fell of the chair!!....so there!!!..

And by the way.. I dont post here to give grey little people a laugh......I
post so that *I* can have a laugh and brighten up my own little
world......NOT YOURS..........so if you dont like that tough!!.....I dont
give a ****.......Love you too.

Dolores

[KEITH CRABILL]

that comment about the grammar was a joke lmao

[Dennis Here]

turtledove wrote in message ...

>I know I'm sounding bitchy about the way you've written, but to be honest,
>I'm seriously going to have to ignore your posts if it doesn't change.


I already have.
This came up only a few weeks ago with another new poster.

Dennis

In ,
KEITH CRABILL > typed:
> that comment about the grammar was a joke lmao

I still think you need to try to use capitalization and punctuation a bit
better. There are folks here who have vision problems. If you choose not
to utilize capital letters, be aware that some people will not take the time
to read your posts. That decision also makes you appear uneducated, when
actually you may just be lazy...

Just my opinion
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.

[Tiffany]

Dennis Here oureply>
wrote in message ...
>
> turtledove wrote in message ...
>
> >I know I'm sounding bitchy about the way you've written, but to be
honest,
> >I'm seriously going to have to ignore your posts if it doesn't change.
>
>
> I already have.
> This came up only a few weeks ago with another new poster.
>
> Dennis
>

Feels like it was just yesterday to me. lol

T

[Kristen313]

>>I'm seriously going to have to ignore your posts if it doesn't change.
>

Oh my gosh, then what would happen?

[KEITH CRABILL]

talking about education i have a degree in marketing from
unc-wilmington.and about being lazy i work 40 to 50 hrs a week and im
raising 2 boys 6 and 7 yrs old when i get off work i go to my moms and
pick them.the only time im lazy after bedtime for my boys.i will try
better to punctuate next if there is a next.whatever happen to reading
skills.its not that hard to read left to right up and down.i didnt know
this was a harvard university discussion room gez maybe i should work on
my master in marketing.and get a better job teaching a cybergrammar
course.
and before uall ask why am i deliverying pizzas instead of something
else.(1)on 9/11 i lost of my job at midway airlines the next day and
decided to stay close to home instead of traveling 65 miles to work one
way.(2)cause i like working a job where u make the schedule and if u
need a day of for any reason u should have no trouble getting a day or
even a week off.(3)and finally i can make anywhere from $400 a week
working 30 to 35 hrs.or up to $600 or more a week working 45 to 50 hrs a
week.im living quit comfortably cause im not a materialistic person like
most of the guys in my position.
well there u have it.well it was nice visiting this discussion group
have fun.and dont let my lack of education worry u.

[Rachel Richard]

Nice to see someone has something to say on the subject. Having to
decide what is best for your child can be nerve racking. No one is
perfect and all decisions can have situations that come up later to
haunt you. My son's father left and hasn't seen him in over a year and
now my son doesn't even mention him much and when he does it's just in a
passing thought. Like "my dad got me this" and then it's off to the next
thought in his active little life. They know who has been there and who
hasn't. They may be little but they do know. Hang in the Keith, you will
make the right decision and thank you Tony for letting someone know how
you handled it.

Rachel

[Tiffany]

Kristen313 > wrote in message
...
> >
> >He might miss out on some pretty damn good advice. IF that is truly why
he
> >is here. Why are YOU here again?
>
> Hmmmm....good question. Originally I came because the misleading name of
the
> group was support for single parents. Still hoping... So far, just a
bunch of
> cranky, critical people. Amusing, though.

Why don't you try again..... what sort of issues are you having to deal with
that brought you here?

Tiff

In ,
Kristen313 > typed:
>> He might miss out on some pretty damn good advice. IF that is truly
>> why he is here. Why are YOU here again?
>
> Hmmmm....good question. Originally I came because the misleading
> name of the group was support for single parents. Still hoping...
> So far, just a bunch of cranky, critical people. Amusing, though.

Sounds interesting. I have read numerous posts offering advice. But then,
maybe you don't read them thoroughly; or choose to focus on the ones that
promote conflict. Whichever the case, one can always hope people will stick
around, and find the 'good stuff.' Sometimes you just have to ignore what
doesn't work, or what seems to be a stab at you personally. When I first
posted here, I felt some of the people here were overly critical. I
responded with clear clarification, not spiteful jibes, and they faded away;
until they had something to say. If it doesn't apply to you or the
situation, leave it alone. Not everyone has been through EXACTLY the same
thing. Sometimes we (adults, parents, single parents, pick your choice)
need to let off steam. Sometimes, things get out of hand. Just because you
were involved in a situation like that, doesn't mean the entire group is
unsupportive. I have found lots of support here. Some advice as well.
This isn't alt.support.single-parents.find-the-best-way-to-live-your-life.
Sometimes support is just listening (or in this case, reading) and
commiserating. Saying something like, "yes, I know what you mean. I have
been there, it gets better (or worse)" It doesn't mean that every time
someone posts, there is going to be advice; because sometimes there just
isn't any. Sometimes we just have to muddle through no matter what. You
may be financially secure, and self-secure. I don't know, simply because I
haven't yet seen it in your posts. I have not ruled you out, I wish you
wouldn't do that to others here. Some people have a pretty rough way of
stating things. Unfortunately, the truth is painful sometimes. No matter
how you coat it, it can be tough to swallow. The sooner we all learn that
the better. I am STILL learning that lesson. LOL

My hope is you will read with more open-mindedness, and realize we are not
all where you are in life. Some are further ahead, some further behind.
That's what makes this group work. Some people have information on one
aspect, others on another. Draw what you need, don't bother with what, for
you, might be drivel. Simple. When I first posted, people said some pretty
rough things, that could have hurt my feelings. I had not explained my
situation entirely, and it caused confusion. It could have been a 'flame'
war, if I had responded with anger. I simply stated more detail, sometimes
it's information that can fix the problem. I sincerely hope you hang
around. It sounds like you might have some advice to give, if you would be
willing to share. So far, I haven't seen any, but if you have been here
awhile, I might have missed some. If you just ignore those who are 'out to
get you,' and post pertinent information, I could make a better judgment
call about some of what I have written. Of course, this probably makes no
sense to you, as most of my replies to you have been stabs, jibes, needles,
whatever you want to call them. They seemed appropriate at the time; but it
was not a mature response. You have to admit, however, neither were yours.
Please give the group a chance, I did. You might be pleasantly surprised.
Just my thoughts. Incoherent as they may be.

Betsy

--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.

[Kristen313]

>My hope is you will read with more open-mindedness, and realize we are not
>all where you are in life. Some are further ahead, some further behind.
>That's what makes this group work.

>If you just ignore those who are 'out to
>get you,' and post pertinent information, I could make a better judgment
>call about some of what I have written.

> Of course, this probably makes no
>sense to you, as most of my replies to you have been stabs, jibes, needles,
>whatever you want to call them. They seemed appropriate at the time; but it
>was not a mature response.

> You have to admit, however, neither were yours.

How about a truce? I have actually been reading most of the posts. There are
some interesting people here with interesting (sorry, can't think of another
word) comments and advice. I have been afraid to respond at all for fear of
upsetting the people who already don't want me here.
My first post here was written after lurking for quite some time. I had
read a lot of stabs at people and just had to respond---I should not have done
so, I guess, especially when no one knew who I was. It just sky-rocketed from
there. I never mentioned any one person, but then it got out of control as
people singled me out.
Don't mean to ramble....sorry.
Kristen

[Dennis Here]

KEITH CRABILL wrote in message

>talking about education i have a degree in marketing from
unc-wilmington.

and then

>dont let my lack of education worry u.

Says it all really.

Dennis

In ,
Kristen313 > typed:
>> My hope is you will read with more open-mindedness, and realize we
>> are not all where you are in life. Some are further ahead, some
>> further behind. That's what makes this group work.
>
>> If you just ignore those who are 'out to
>> get you,' and post pertinent information, I could make a better
>> judgment call about some of what I have written.
>
>> Of course, this probably makes no
>> sense to you, as most of my replies to you have been stabs, jibes,
>> needles, whatever you want to call them. They seemed appropriate at
>> the time; but it was not a mature response.
>
>> You have to admit, however, neither were yours.
>
> How about a truce? I have actually been reading most of the posts.
> There are some interesting people here with interesting (sorry, can't
> think of another word) comments and advice. I have been afraid to
> respond at all for fear of upsetting the people who already don't
> want me here. My first post here was written after lurking for
> quite some time. I had
> read a lot of stabs at people and just had to respond---I should not
> have done so, I guess, especially when no one knew who I was. It
> just sky-rocketed from there. I never mentioned any one person, but
> then it got out of control as people singled me out.
> Don't mean to ramble....sorry.
> Kristen

I agree to a truce...let's hope others do as well. Rambling...no apology
needed, we all do it from time to time...well most of us...well...SOME of
us. Anyway, see what I mean? Maybe it was poor timing, or poor wording, I
don't know. Hope you stick around, just to see if you can find something
useful here.

Betsy
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.

[KEITH CRABILL]

for those who think i have a lack of education that is what i was
getting at

[©kat©]

"KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
...
> for those who think i have a lack of education that is what i was
> getting at
>

I'm seriously starting to get confused as to what you're replying to. I
don't believe it has anything to do with education, be it yours or mine, or
anyone else for that matter. It is confusing, though, to read something and
have no idea what you are responding to, only to try and go back and figure
out what it is, exactly that you are commenting on.
I don't care so much about the capitals, or lack of capitals, or even the
punctuation, (again lacking) but trying to follow what you are talking about
is really starting to get confusing and more frustrating.

[KEITH CRABILL]

i must be doing it for a reason lol.but man its fun as hell.

[©kat©]

"KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
...
> and about ur frustration shows a lack of self control lol.
>

I may stand corrected... Maybe it does have something to do with your
"education."

In ,
©kat© > typed:
> "KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
> ...
>> and about ur frustration shows a lack of self control lol.
>>
>
> I may stand corrected... Maybe it does have something to do with your
> "education."

I think it has more to do with his pure selfishness, and laziness. Killfile
works wonders.

Betsy
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.

[KEITH CRABILL]

the only ppl i see doing any kind of arguing is uall im just sitting
back lmao that uall r taking the time to reply to what i say makes me
feel fuzzy inside.lmao .

[turtledove]

"dolores" > wrote in message
...
>
> "turtledove" > wrote in message
> . com...
> >
> > "KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
> > ...
>
> snip
>
> I have double vision
> > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
>
> LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double the
> amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
>
> So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly across
the
> street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just go
> back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just left!?!?!
>
> Dolores
>

Picture crossing your eyes and the world being very similar to that....it's
gotten a bit better over the past year, but when I'm tired, the world is
double. Does my head in, too much information coming in...

I know you're being silly Dolores, but you've hit a touchy spot with me.
Still getting used to my life not being how it was for 30 years....and
learning to live with the new life.

hugs,
*bri

[turtledove]

"Dennis Here" oureply>
wrote in message ...
>
> turtledove wrote in message ...
>
> >I know I'm sounding bitchy about the way you've written, but to be
honest,
> >I'm seriously going to have to ignore your posts if it doesn't change.
>
>
> I already have.
> This came up only a few weeks ago with another new poster.
>
> Dennis
>
>

I gave up and killfiled him. Don't have time for it.

*bri

[Paul Fritz]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>
> Kristen313 > wrote in message
> ...
> > >
> > >He might miss out on some pretty damn good advice. IF that is truly
why
> he
> > >is here. Why are YOU here again?
> >
> > Hmmmm....good question. Originally I came because the misleading name
of
> the
> > group was support for single parents. Still hoping... So far, just a
> bunch of
> > cranky, critical people. Amusing, though.
>
> Why don't you try again..... what sort of issues are you having to deal
with
> that brought you here?

Probably because she can't find anyone anywhere else to agree with her or
tolerant her childish and selfish behavior.

>
> Tiff
>
>

[Paul Fritz]

> wrote in message
. ..
> In ,
> KEITH CRABILL > typed:
> > talking about education i have a degree in marketing from
> > unc-wilmington.and about being lazy i work 40 to 50 hrs a week and im
> > raising 2 boys 6 and 7 yrs old when i get off work i go to my moms and
> > pick them.the only time im lazy after bedtime for my boys.i will try
> > better to punctuate next if there is a next.whatever happen to reading
> > skills.its not that hard to read left to right up and down.i didnt
> > know this was a harvard university discussion room gez maybe i should
> > work on my master in marketing.and get a better job teaching a
> > cybergrammar course.
> > and before uall ask why am i deliverying pizzas instead of something
> > else.(1)on 9/11 i lost of my job at midway airlines the next day and
> > decided to stay close to home instead of traveling 65 miles to work
> > one way.(2)cause i like working a job where u make the schedule and
> > if u need a day of for any reason u should have no trouble getting a
> > day or even a week off.(3)and finally i can make anywhere from $400 a
> > week working 30 to 35 hrs.or up to $600 or more a week working 45 to
> > 50 hrs a week.im living quit comfortably cause im not a materialistic
> > person like most of the guys in my position.
> > well there u have it.well it was nice visiting this discussion group
> > have fun.and dont let my lack of education worry u.
>
> I did not say you were uneducated. I said you APPEAR to be so. In order
to
> change that opinion, type like an educated person. Most people know you
> begin a sentence with a Capital letter, and you place a space (actually
two)
> after each period. It makes things easy to read. I was offering you
> advice, to help you get the most support from this group. How you chose
to
> respond, means you are self-focused. I was not criticizing anything but
the
> way you post. Sorry for injuring your ego.

Losing the instant message junior high abbreviations would help too :-)

>
> Betsy
> --
> Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
> ketchup.
>
>

[Betsy]

In ,
Paul Fritz > typed:
> > wrote in message
> . ..
>> In ,
>> KEITH CRABILL > typed:
>>> talking about education i have a degree in marketing from
>>> unc-wilmington.and about being lazy i work 40 to 50 hrs a week and
>>> im raising 2 boys 6 and 7 yrs old when i get off work i go to my
>>> moms and pick them.the only time im lazy after bedtime for my
>>> boys.i will try better to punctuate next if there is a
>>> next.whatever happen to reading skills.its not that hard to read
>>> left to right up and down.i didnt know this was a harvard
>>> university discussion room gez maybe i should work on my master in
>>> marketing.and get a better job teaching a cybergrammar course.
>>> and before uall ask why am i deliverying pizzas instead of something
>>> else.(1)on 9/11 i lost of my job at midway airlines the next day and
>>> decided to stay close to home instead of traveling 65 miles to work
>>> one way.(2)cause i like working a job where u make the schedule and
>>> if u need a day of for any reason u should have no trouble getting a
>>> day or even a week off.(3)and finally i can make anywhere from $400
>>> a week working 30 to 35 hrs.or up to $600 or more a week working 45
>>> to 50 hrs a week.im living quit comfortably cause im not a
>>> materialistic person like most of the guys in my position.
>>> well there u have it.well it was nice visiting this discussion group
>>> have fun.and dont let my lack of education worry u.
>>
>> I did not say you were uneducated. I said you APPEAR to be so. In
>> order to change that opinion, type like an educated person. Most
>> people know you begin a sentence with a Capital letter, and you
>> place a space (actually two) after each period. It makes things
>> easy to read. I was offering you advice, to help you get the most
>> support from this group. How you chose to respond, means you are
>> self-focused. I was not criticizing anything but the way you post.
>> Sorry for injuring your ego.
>
> Losing the instant message junior high abbreviations would help too
> :-)
>

He has chosen not to, therefore he has met with my killfile. Ah well, his
loss.

Betsy
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.

[Betsy]

In m,
turtledove > typed:
> "Dennis Here"
> oureply> wrote in
> message ...
>>
>> turtledove wrote in message ...
>>
>>> I know I'm sounding bitchy about the way you've written, but to be
>>> honest, I'm seriously going to have to ignore your posts if it
>>> doesn't change.
>>
>>
>> I already have.
>> This came up only a few weeks ago with another new poster.
>>
>> Dennis
>>
>>
>
> I gave up and killfiled him. Don't have time for it.
>
> *bri

Ditto here. Which is not something I do often, or out of anger at posts.
This took awhile for me to decide to do. His loss I wager.

Betsy
--
Meddle not in the affairs of Dragons, for you are crunchy and good with
ketchup.

[turtledove]

"dolores" > wrote in message
...
>
> "©kat©" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "dolores" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > > "turtledove" wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > "KEITH CRABILL" wrote in message ...
> > >
> > > snip
> > >
> > > I have double vision
> > > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> > >
> > > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double
the
> > > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> > >
> > > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly
across
> > the
> > > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just
go
> > > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
> left!?!?!
> > >
> > > Dolores
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > What?? Probably just me, but that made no sense at all.
> > It wasn't even close to funny, but, again, it is probably just me.
> >
> >
>
> LOL....Made peeeerfect sense to me......I thought it was
> hilarious......nearly peed me pants and fell of the chair!!....so
there!!!..
>
> And by the way.. I dont post here to give grey little people a
laugh......I
> post so that *I* can have a laugh and brighten up my own little
> world......NOT YOURS..........so if you dont like that tough!!.....I dont
> give a ****.......Love you too.
>
> Dolores
>


Nice to know that my new handicap gives you such pleasure.

enjoy

*b

[Paul Fritz]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "dolores" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "©kat©" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "dolores" wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > "turtledove" wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "KEITH CRABILL" wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > snip
> > > >
> > > > I have double vision
> > > > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> > > >
> > > > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double
> the
> > > > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > > > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> > > >
> > > > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly
> across
> > > the
> > > > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and
just
> go
> > > > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
> > left!?!?!
> > > >
> > > > Dolores
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What?? Probably just me, but that made no sense at all.
> > > It wasn't even close to funny, but, again, it is probably just me.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > LOL....Made peeeerfect sense to me......I thought it was
> > hilarious......nearly peed me pants and fell of the chair!!....so
> there!!!..
> >
> > And by the way.. I dont post here to give grey little people a
> laugh......I
> > post so that *I* can have a laugh and brighten up my own little
> > world......NOT YOURS..........so if you dont like that tough!!.....I
dont
> > give a ****.......Love you too.
> >
> > Dolores
> >
>
>
> Nice to know that my new handicap gives you such pleasure.
>
> enjoy
>
> *b

Another self admitted troll......no wonder she gets along with the other
one.....


>
>

[turtledove]

"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "turtledove" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > "dolores" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "©kat©" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > >
> > > > "dolores" wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "turtledove" wrote in message ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "KEITH CRABILL" wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > > snip
> > > > >
> > > > > I have double vision
> > > > > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> > > > >
> > > > > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get
double
> > the
> > > > > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > > > > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> > > > >
> > > > > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly
> > across
> > > > the
> > > > > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and
> just
> > go
> > > > > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
> > > left!?!?!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dolores
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What?? Probably just me, but that made no sense at all.
> > > > It wasn't even close to funny, but, again, it is probably just me.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > LOL....Made peeeerfect sense to me......I thought it was
> > > hilarious......nearly peed me pants and fell of the chair!!....so
> > there!!!..
> > >
> > > And by the way.. I dont post here to give grey little people a
> > laugh......I
> > > post so that *I* can have a laugh and brighten up my own little
> > > world......NOT YOURS..........so if you dont like that tough!!.....I
> dont
> > > give a ****.......Love you too.
> > >
> > > Dolores
> > >
> >
> >
> > Nice to know that my new handicap gives you such pleasure.
> >
> > enjoy
> >
> > *b
>
> Another self admitted troll......no wonder she gets along with the other
> one.....
>


Yeah, but Dolores used to be a regular...and not a troll, that is why it got
under my skin so much. And to be honest, still is under my skin. I'm sick
to death of quite a bit right now. I'm beginning to think it's time to give
the FAQ to someone else.

*bri

[dolores]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "dolores" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "©kat©" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "dolores" wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > "turtledove" wrote in message ...
> > > > >
> > > > > "KEITH CRABILL" wrote in message ...
> > > >
> > > > snip
> > > >
> > > > I have double vision
> > > > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> > > >
> > > > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double
> the
> > > > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > > > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> > > >
> > > > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly
> across
> > > the
> > > > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and
just
> go
> > > > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
> > left!?!?!
> > > >
> > > > Dolores
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > What?? Probably just me, but that made no sense at all.
> > > It wasn't even close to funny, but, again, it is probably just me.
> > >
> > >
> >
> > LOL....Made peeeerfect sense to me......I thought it was
> > hilarious......nearly peed me pants and fell of the chair!!....so
> there!!!..
> >
> > And by the way.. I dont post here to give grey little people a
> laugh......I
> > post so that *I* can have a laugh and brighten up my own little
> > world......NOT YOURS..........so if you dont like that tough!!.....I
dont
> > give a ****.......Love you too.
> >
> > Dolores
> >
>
>
> Nice to know that my new handicap gives you such pleasure.
>
> enjoy
>
> *b
>

Huh? I'm a tad lost here Brianne. I'm may be a lot of things, but I've never
ever been nasty in the way you imply....And no, I dont get any pleasure from
knowing that you have a handicapp, I get no pleasure at all.

And the reason I found it so funny, was cos I experienced double vision once
myself.....self inflicted mind you (which probably goes without
saying)......and it goes down in the history books of my friends as one of
the funniest nights we ever had out. I wont bore ye with the details.

Dolores







>

[dolores]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
m...
>
> "dolores" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "turtledove" > wrote in message
> > . com...
> > >
> > > "KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> >
> > snip
> >
> > I have double vision
> > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> >
> > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double the
> > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> >
> > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly across
> the
> > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just go
> > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
left!?!?!
> >
> > Dolores
> >
>
> Picture crossing your eyes and the world being very similar to
that....it's
> gotten a bit better over the past year, but when I'm tired, the world is
> double. Does my head in, too much information coming in...
>
> I know you're being silly Dolores,

Just read your post above, where you asked if I was getting pleasure from
your handicapp, now I;m wondering which you posted first...this one or the
other one. cos yes I was being silly, that's all. Totally innocuous.

but you've hit a touchy spot with me.

Sorry, didnt know, and didnt mean any harm.

> Still getting used to my life not being how it was for 30 years....and
> learning to live with the new life.

Once again, I'm sorry Brianne, I really didnt mean any harm........and I'm
NOT (lol) apologising again......Jesus wept, that's all I seem to be doing
these days around here.....

Dolores

[turtledove]

"dolores" > wrote in message
...
>
> "turtledove" > wrote in message
> m...
> >
> > "dolores" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "turtledove" > wrote in message
> > > . com...
> > > >
> > > > "KEITH CRABILL" > wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > >
> > > snip
> > >
> > > I have double vision
> > > > and the way you've chosen to write just messes with my eyes.
> > >
> > > LOL......does this mean ya pay half price fer everything, get double
the
> > > amount change you're suppposed to and .....jeez......two electric
> > > bills.........What a pain in the arse!!......
> > >
> > > So if another car, excatly the same as yours was parked directly
across
> > the
> > > street from yours..........LOLOL.....do you see a road block and just
go
> > > back to bed........Ah ****e!!.....which is the warm bed ya just
> left!?!?!
> > >
> > > Dolores
> > >
> >
> > Picture crossing your eyes and the world being very similar to
> that....it's
> > gotten a bit better over the past year, but when I'm tired, the world is
> > double. Does my head in, too much information coming in...
> >
> > I know you're being silly Dolores,
>
> Just read your post above, where you asked if I was getting pleasure from
> your handicapp, now I;m wondering which you posted first...this one or the
> other one. cos yes I was being silly, that's all. Totally innocuous.
>
> but you've hit a touchy spot with me.
>
> Sorry, didnt know, and didnt mean any harm.
>
> > Still getting used to my life not being how it was for 30 years....and
> > learning to live with the new life.
>
> Once again, I'm sorry Brianne, I really didnt mean any harm........and I'm
> NOT (lol) apologising again......Jesus wept, that's all I seem to be doing
> these days around here.....
>
> Dolores
>

Apology accepted. I'm a bit touchy about things related to my accident
that's all hon. Some days I find it funny, some days I get overly touchy
about things.

hugs,
*bri

[Paul Fritz]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
om...
>

> >
> > Another self admitted troll......no wonder she gets along with the other
> > one.....
> >
>
>
> Yeah, but Dolores used to be a regular...and not a troll, that is why it
got
> under my skin so much. And to be honest, still is under my skin. I'm
sick
> to death of quite a bit right now. I'm beginning to think it's time to
give
> the FAQ to someone else.

I can understand....you're still moving right? I did it several times when
younger...I was the first in the family (5th kid) to go to the same H.S. all
four years......it is never easy.

>
> *bri
>
>

[Buzz]

When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
>
> "turtledove" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
>
> > >
> > > Another self admitted troll......no wonder she gets along with the other
> > > one.....
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, but Dolores used to be a regular...and not a troll, that is why it
> got
> > under my skin so much. And to be honest, still is under my skin. I'm
> sick
> > to death of quite a bit right now. I'm beginning to think it's time to
> give
> > the FAQ to someone else.
>
> I can understand....you're still moving right? I did it several times when
> younger...I was the first in the family (5th kid) to go to the same H.S. all
> four years......it is never easy.
>
> >
> > *bri
> >
> >
>
>
>
Lurk Mode <off>

Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
for trolls and backbiting. I have started and given up on quitre a few
groups. I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
in a group.

However, dont give up so easily Turtledove, killfile the troll, see if
that makes it more bearable. This group could be a valuable resource.

Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere
--
Jest Buzzin around!

www.komputers4kids.co.uk recycle old computers for the children (UK
Based)

http://www.global-lifeline.co.uk Meet with others that use their
computer as a lifeline ( Worldwide)

[Buzz]

When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
>
> "Buzz" > wrote in message
> ...
> > When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > Lurk Mode <off>
> >

> >

> >

>
> 90% of the problems, and origins of the rolling flames, back biting etc, are
> when people like yourself pop into a NG, without knowing, who what, when
> where how or why, make a post like you just did, or try to play net cop, or
> demand that people act a certain way, or only have a certain view point,
> etc,
>
>
>
> > --
> > Jest Buzzin around!
> >
> > www.komputers4kids.co.uk recycle old computers for the children (UK
> > Based)
> >
> > http://www.global-lifeline.co.uk Meet with others that use their
> > computer as a lifeline ( Worldwide)
>
>
>
perhaps you should read what I said before trying a flame? Lets look at it shall we?

> > Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
> > for trolls and backbiting. I have started and given up on quitre a few
> > groups. I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
> > in a group.

In support of TD, and mentioning that it happens in may groups, and my
personal belief as to why it happens.

> > However, dont give up so easily Turtledove, killfile the troll, see if
> > that makes it more bearable. This group could be a valuable
resource.

Moral support to someone obviously at the end of their tether

> > Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere

Another suggestion.

Now, where in that do you see 'net copping' Demanding that people act in
a certain way or have a certain viewpoint?

All I see is as I have said, sympathy for someone at the end of their
tether and thinking of giving up the FAQ. There is no need to know who,
what, why or when to do that. Likewise, there is absolutely no need for
your aggressive and confrontational response. Or is that the only way
that you can get people to talk to you?

I said when I first reviewed this ng with the intention of contributing
that it seemed to be full of backbiting etc. You have just proved my
point, and confirmed my decision to hit unsubscribe.

Should anyone actually want whatever help/support ofr just friendship
that I can offer, I can be found in the forums in my last link as Rev
Dave B.

Enjoy
--
Jest Buzzin around!

www.komputers4kids.co.uk recycle old computers for the children (UK
Based)
http://www.global-lifeline.co.uk Meet with others that use their
computer as a lifeline ( Worldwide)

[Paul Fritz]

"Buzz" > wrote in message
...
> When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
> >
> > "Buzz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Lurk Mode <off>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
> > 90% of the problems, and origins of the rolling flames, back biting etc,
are
> > when people like yourself pop into a NG, without knowing, who what, when
> > where how or why, make a post like you just did, or try to play net cop,
or
> > demand that people act a certain way, or only have a certain view point,
> > etc,
> >
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > Jest Buzzin around!
> > >
> > > www.komputers4kids.co.uk recycle old computers for the children (UK
> > > Based)
> > >
> > > http://www.global-lifeline.co.uk Meet with others that use their
> > > computer as a lifeline ( Worldwide)
> >
> >
> >
> perhaps you should read what I said before trying a flame? Lets look at it
shall we?
>

Reading comprehension is not your forte obviously. My post was not a flame,
simply an observation........but as typical with most new posters as I
described above, you have taken offense and now jumo to the defensive.


> > > Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
> > > for trolls and backbiting. I have started and given up on quitre a few
> > > groups. I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
> > > in a group.
>
> In support of TD, and mentioning that it happens in may groups, and my
> personal belief as to why it happens.
>
> > > However, dont give up so easily Turtledove, killfile the troll, see if
> > > that makes it more bearable. This group could be a valuable
> resource.
>
> Moral support to someone obviously at the end of their tether

And just how much history do you know about her to make such an ASSumption?


>
> > > Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere
>
> Another suggestion.
>
> Now, where in that do you see 'net copping' Demanding that people act in
> a certain way or have a certain viewpoint?


Maybe you should look up the meaning of the word 'OR'

>
> All I see is as I have said, sympathy for someone at the end of their
> tether and thinking of giving up the FAQ. There is no need to know who,
> what, why or when to do that.

There is unless you want to do a lot of ASSuming

> Likewise, there is absolutely no need for
> your aggressive and confrontational response.

LMAO..........it didn't take you long to get to the point s I made after the
'OR'

> Or is that the only way
> that you can get people to talk to you?

A personal attack.............how quaint.

>
> I said when I first reviewed this ng with the intention of contributing
> that it seemed to be full of backbiting etc. You have just proved my
> point, and confirmed my decision to hit unsubscribe.

Then don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

>
> Should anyone actually want whatever help/support ofr just friendship
> that I can offer, I can be found in the forums in my last link as Rev
> Dave B.

The truth comes ouit.....the real reason......


>
> Enjoy
> --
> Jest Buzzin around!
>
> www.komputers4kids.co.uk recycle old computers for the children (UK
> Based)
> http://www.global-lifeline.co.uk Meet with others that use their
> computer as a lifeline ( Worldwide)

[Tiffany]

Buzz > wrote in message
...
> When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
> >
> > "Buzz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > When I buzzed out of the hive I heard say...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > Lurk Mode <off>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> > >
>
> >
> > 90% of the problems, and origins of the rolling flames, back biting etc,
are
> > when people like yourself pop into a NG, without knowing, who what, when
> > where how or why, make a post like you just did, or try to play net cop,
or
> > demand that people act a certain way, or only have a certain view point,
> > etc,
> >
> >
> >
> > > --
> > > Jest Buzzin around!
> > >
> >
> >
> perhaps you should read what I said before trying a flame? Lets look at it
shall we?
>
> > > Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
> > > for trolls and backbiting. I have started and given up on quitre a few
> > > groups. I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
> > > in a group.
>
> In support of TD, and mentioning that it happens in may groups, and my
> personal belief as to why it happens.
>
> > > However, dont give up so easily Turtledove, killfile the troll, see if
> > > that makes it more bearable. This group could be a valuable
> resource.
>
> Moral support to someone obviously at the end of their tether
>
> > > Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere
>
> Another suggestion.
>
> Now, where in that do you see 'net copping' Demanding that people act in
> a certain way or have a certain viewpoint?
>
> All I see is as I have said, sympathy for someone at the end of their
> tether and thinking of giving up the FAQ. There is no need to know who,
> what, why or when to do that. Likewise, there is absolutely no need for
> your aggressive and confrontational response. Or is that the only way
> that you can get people to talk to you?
>
> I said when I first reviewed this ng with the intention of contributing
> that it seemed to be full of backbiting etc. You have just proved my
> point, and confirmed my decision to hit unsubscribe.
>
> Should anyone actually want whatever help/support ofr just friendship
> that I can offer, I can be found in the forums in my last link as Rev
> Dave B.
>
> Enjoy
> --
> Jest Buzzin around!
>

I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites. lol

Some peoples kids. And he is a Rev. ??? lol

[Paul Fritz]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
> >
>
> I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites. lol
>
> Some peoples kids. And he is a Rev. ??? lol

You caught that too......you are as smart as you are cute ;-)


>
>

[Tiffany]

Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >
> >
> > I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites. lol
> >
> > Some peoples kids. And he is a Rev. ??? lol
>
> You caught that too......you are as smart as you are cute ;-)
>
>


See.... you are flirting. ;)

T

[Paul Fritz]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>
> Paul Fritz > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > >
> > >
> > > I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites. lol
> > >
> > > Some peoples kids. And he is a Rev. ??? lol
> >
> > You caught that too......you are as smart as you are cute ;-)
> >
> >
>
>
> See.... you are flirting. ;)

Who me??????????????????????????????????? LOL


>
> T
>
>

[Tiffany]

Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Paul Fritz > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites.
lol
> > > >
> > > > Some peoples kids. And he is a Rev. ??? lol
> > >
> > > You caught that too......you are as smart as you are cute ;-)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > See.... you are flirting. ;)
>
> Who me??????????????????????????????????? LOL
>
>
> >

Don't worry.... i like to be flirted at. ;)

T

[turtledove]

"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "turtledove" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
>
> > >
> > > Another self admitted troll......no wonder she gets along with the
other
> > > one.....
> > >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, but Dolores used to be a regular...and not a troll, that is why it
> got
> > under my skin so much. And to be honest, still is under my skin. I'm
> sick
> > to death of quite a bit right now. I'm beginning to think it's time to
> give
> > the FAQ to someone else.
>
> I can understand....you're still moving right? I did it several times
when
> younger...I was the first in the family (5th kid) to go to the same H.S.
all
> four years......it is never easy.
>
> >
> > *bri
> >
> >

Still moving. Right now we hope to be in Vegas by the end of August. So
extreme packing has begun. My emotions are just raw. Thankgoodness my son
is fine with the move (so far, I really don't think he understands teh
concept about moving...which is surprising being that he has already moved
five times in his 9 years...yikes! In two weeks he WILL be 9....sigh...)

The thing is/was about D's post was simply that it surprised me. I know I
don't spout all the time about my health situation, but it's really touchy.
Yes, I'm healing. Yes, I'm a zillion times better than I was last year at
this time. But....I still miss the old me a bunch. Especially with this
move..I would like ALL my mental faculties working correctly..especially my
vision.

Oh well....back to packing boxes!!!

hugs,
*bri

[Paul Fritz]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
om...
>

>
> Still moving. Right now we hope to be in Vegas by the end of August. So
> extreme packing has begun. My emotions are just raw. Thankgoodness my
son
> is fine with the move (so far, I really don't think he understands teh
> concept about moving...which is surprising being that he has already moved
> five times in his 9 years...yikes! In two weeks he WILL be 9....sigh...)
>
> The thing is/was about D's post was simply that it surprised me. I know I
> don't spout all the time about my health situation, but it's really
touchy.
> Yes, I'm healing. Yes, I'm a zillion times better than I was last year at
> this time. But....I still miss the old me a bunch. Especially with this
> move..I would like ALL my mental faculties working correctly..especially
my
> vision.
>
> Oh well....back to packing boxes!!!

I sometimes suffer from the cross eyed thing as well when tired, so I know
how you feel WRT to that.(though it sounds like you are gradually getting
better)......along with a loss of depth perception at night, vitrous (sp?)
retnal separation and a host of other eye problems as well.

>
> hugs,
> *bri
>
>

[Dennis Here]

Buzz wrote in message ...

>Lurk Mode <off>
>
>Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
>for trolls and backbiting.

Usually very short term.

>I have started and given up on quitre a few
>groups.

Try alt.utopia

>I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
>in a group.


What for? You take a snapshot look in here for the equivelant of five
seconds in a year and come to a conclusion like that?

>However, dont give up so easily Turtledove, killfile the troll, see if
>that makes it more bearable.

Dolores is not a troll but is a valued poster here.
So very occasionally someone makes an oversight about another posters
personal situation. So what? Happens all the time in real life.

>This group could be a valuable resource.


It is for those who give it a little time.

>Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere


Good idea, **** off and talk to yourself.
Snipped the spam

Dennis

[turtledove]

"Dennis Here" oureply>
wrote in message ...
>
> Good idea, **** off and talk to yourself.
> Snipped the spam
>
> Dennis
>


This absolutely killed me for some reason. Now I remember why I don't drink
while I'm reading the newsgroup....

hugs,
*bri (who now feels horrible that I took Dolores so much to heart. I really
need to just deal with my mood swings OFF usenet some days. Sorry Dolores!)

[dolores]

"Dennis Here" oureply>
wrote in message ...
>
> Buzz wrote in message ...
>
> >Lurk Mode <off>
> >
> >Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
> >for trolls and backbiting.
>
> Usually very short term.

Actually, I didnt think there were any trolls here at the moment.
>
> >I have started and given up on quitre a few
> >groups.
>
> Try alt.utopia
>
> >I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
> >in a group.
>
>
> What for? You take a snapshot look in here for the equivelant of five
> seconds in a year and come to a conclusion like that?

Dennis? I know yer the nearest poster to me.....but surely ya couldn't have
heard me say (and not as politely) the same thing....
>
> >However, dont give up so easily Turtledove, killfile the troll, see if
> >that makes it more bearable.
>
> Dolores is not a troll but is a valued poster here.


LMAO......oh it's *me* their talking about. I seeeee the light!!....

> So very occasionally someone makes an oversight about another posters
> personal situation. So what? Happens all the time in real life.

Is this about the "double vision" post........cos if it is, then yeah you're
right Dennis, it *was* an unintended oversight, I'd no idea, and how could I
have!!
>
> >This group could be a valuable resource.
>
>
> It is for those who give it a little time.
>
> >Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere
>
>
> Good idea, **** off and talk to yourself.

LOL.....Dennis!! OMG!!.... go wash yer mouth out!!!..;0)))

Dolores

[Joelle]

>Its a bloody shame when what could be a usefull NG turns into a place
>for trolls and backbiting.

I find this to be a useful NG.

>I think the main problem is the lack of control and moderation
>in a group.

Oh no. I participate in some moderated groups. BOOORING. As soon as anything
gets the least bit controversial (and you would be surprised how easily things
get that way) - BONG, end of thread. No thank you. I prefer self-moderation,
and enjoy a few flamewars. No body is making you read them.

>Alternatively, do what I did, start a forum somewhere

I suggest anyone that is unhappy with this group will be much better off
starting their own than trying to change us.

Joelle

[Joelle]

>I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites. lol

That's what I think too. And how arrogant - I came here to help YOU, he
doesn't need us, he just wants to *help* us. Never trust anyone who claims not
to need anything from you - they jest wanna hep.

Joelle

[dolores]

"turtledove" > wrote in message
om...
>
> "dolores" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "turtledove" > wrote in message
> > m...
> > >

> >
> > Once again, I'm sorry Brianne, I really didnt mean any harm........and
I'm
> > NOT (lol) apologising again......Jesus wept, that's all I seem to be
doing
> > these days around here.....
> >
> > Dolores
> >
>
> Apology accepted. I'm a bit touchy about things related to my accident
> that's all hon. Some days I find it funny, some days I get overly touchy
> about things.
>
> hugs,
> *bri

Well guess I better not tell *my* accident story and stop my lips flappin
all over me face!!.........

HEY!!!!..... I CAN SEE!!!..

Oh ****!! now I'm *really* in the ****!!..

Dolores
>
>

[turtledove]

"dolores" > wrote in message
...
>
> "turtledove" > wrote in message
> om...
> >
> > "dolores" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> > > "turtledove" > wrote in message
> > > m...
> > > >
>
> > >
> > > Once again, I'm sorry Brianne, I really didnt mean any harm........and
> I'm
> > > NOT (lol) apologising again......Jesus wept, that's all I seem to be
> doing
> > > these days around here.....
> > >
> > > Dolores
> > >
> >
> > Apology accepted. I'm a bit touchy about things related to my accident
> > that's all hon. Some days I find it funny, some days I get overly
touchy
> > about things.
> >
> > hugs,
> > *bri
>
> Well guess I better not tell *my* accident story and stop my lips flappin
> all over me face!!.........
>
> HEY!!!!..... I CAN SEE!!!..

*****Bwahahahahahahaha!! ;-)!!

> Oh ****!! now I'm *really* in the ****!!..
>
> Dolores
> >
> >
>
>
>

[Tony]

Wether or not Buzz is here for the right reasons I don't know and won't
comment. This ng is a clique far worse then any of the cliques in the
average high school. Any outsider with anything that may considered an
oposing opinion to the ones inside the clique of this ng is immediately
tagged and bagged. Not too mention that most here fail to realize the power
of the emotionless written word. The written word is left up to the reader
to guess how the statement(s) are intended. And then you wonder why people
take it as an offense.

Well after lurking here for a couple months I too am going to hit the
unsubscribe button. The never ending flame wars just drag me down. And I'm
already in far too low of a place in life to waiste my time reading that
garbage. If I wasnt I probably would be posting this, but I don't need you
people to make me feel worse.

Thanks and good bye.
Tony

Now is the point you choose to flame me, accuse me of being a troll, lieing,
exagerating, and whatever pointless garbage you think up. Won't matter, I
won't be here to see it.

"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> > >
> >
> > I think this poster is only here to bring attention to his sites. lol
> >
> > Some peoples kids. And he is a Rev. ??? lol
>
> You caught that too......you are as smart as you are cute ;-)
>
>
> >
> >
>
>

[Joelle]

> Any outsider with anything that may considered an
>oposing opinion to the ones inside the clique of this ng is immediately
>tagged and bagge

That's pretty funny because if you paid as much attention as you claim, you'd
know that every so-called "insider" (an insider is just someone who posts
frequently) disagrees with just about every other "insider" on at least one
thing if not more.

>The written word is left up to the reader
>to guess how the statement(s) are intended. And then you wonder why people
>take it as an offense.

Well then, perhaps the person choosing to take offense ought to take that in
account when they make a decision as to wether or not they will be offended.
It is a free choice after all.


>Well after lurking here for a couple months I too am going to hit the
>unsubscribe button

So you've lurked for months and never chosen to contribute and now you blame us
because we were of no help to you.

>And I'm
>already in far too low of a place in life to waiste my time reading that
>garbage

I suggest that the above has something to do with your being in a low place.
This is NOT a flame or a put down - this is support, believe or not. When you
look for other people to lift you up and don't do anything to help yourself,
you will always be disappointed and let down. Maybe if you had contributed you
would have had a more positive experience. And I suggest you look at the rest
of your life. Being a victim is depressing and powerless. The reason I always
insist people are not victims is that when you recognize your responsiblity in
a problem, you gain the power to change it. Victims have no power. I choose
to believe you and I have the power to make our lives better

> but I don't need you
>people to make me feel worse.
>

You don't need anybody to "make" you feel anything. You choose unless you have
a chemical imbalance and even then you have the choice to do something about
that as well.

>Thanks and good bye.

You are quite welcome and I know you are reading this because everyone who
writes a ng suicide note comes back to see what people will say.

And you thought we didn't care ....

Joelle