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Mike Hasemann
November 6th 03, 07:50 PM
I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
so I need some good input.

My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
it reduced because she was going to school.
They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
(the time from when she quit her job til
the reduction hearing) because
she claims she was told that it would be
retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have been
retro even if it had been.

But my question is how much of the arrears is she
going to have to come up with immediately?
Because basically whatever it is, that means
I will have to come up with it immediately
as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
for all of it right now.

Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
the entire amount immediately and she can't?
She literally has no money in her checking
and no income at all. And we are NOT married
or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
year and a half).

I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.

The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
days - especially for people with no degree
and no real measurable job skills. That's the
whole reason I agreed to support her while
she was going to the hair cutting school.
I was hoping someone in here would be able to
put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
going to accept the payment option to make up
the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at $720).

Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
going to have to come up with!
But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
off the deep end myself.

btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
a little better getting it out. :-)

btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
if getting married is a good idea after all.
The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
people get through every day for years with this
stuff.

Gini
November 6th 03, 09:49 PM
"Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
om...
> I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> so I need some good input.
>
> My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> it reduced because she was going to school.
> They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> (the time from when she quit her job til
> the reduction hearing) because
> she claims she was told that it would be
> retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have been
> retro even if it had been.
>
> But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> going to have to come up with immediately?
> Because basically whatever it is, that means
> I will have to come up with it immediately
> as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> for all of it right now.
==
That should have been addressed in the order. Have you seen it?
Usually, a small arrears payment is added to the monthly support amount.
==
==

Fighting for kids
November 6th 03, 11:43 PM
get in line.. try having an ex thats $15,000 behind. It gets better just
wait.

"Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
om...
> I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> so I need some good input.
>
> My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> it reduced because she was going to school.
> They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> (the time from when she quit her job til
> the reduction hearing) because
> she claims she was told that it would be
> retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have been
> retro even if it had been.
>
> But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> going to have to come up with immediately?
> Because basically whatever it is, that means
> I will have to come up with it immediately
> as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> for all of it right now.
>
> Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> She literally has no money in her checking
> and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> year and a half).
>
> I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
>
> The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> days - especially for people with no degree
> and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> whole reason I agreed to support her while
> she was going to the hair cutting school.
> I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> going to accept the payment option to make up
> the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at $720).
>
> Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> going to have to come up with!
> But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> off the deep end myself.
>
> btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> a little better getting it out. :-)
>
> btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> if getting married is a good idea after all.
> The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> people get through every day for years with this
> stuff.

Fighting for kids
November 8th 03, 01:26 AM
unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange a payment
of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months behind they
probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the CSE office
and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or something at
least to get by.

She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I would
suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school to pay
her support and arrears off.

"Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
om...
> I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> so I need some good input.
>
> My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> it reduced because she was going to school.
> They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> (the time from when she quit her job til
> the reduction hearing) because
> she claims she was told that it would be
> retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have been
> retro even if it had been.
>
> But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> going to have to come up with immediately?
> Because basically whatever it is, that means
> I will have to come up with it immediately
> as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> for all of it right now.
>
> Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> She literally has no money in her checking
> and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> year and a half).
>
> I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
>
> The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> days - especially for people with no degree
> and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> whole reason I agreed to support her while
> she was going to the hair cutting school.
> I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> going to accept the payment option to make up
> the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at $720).
>
> Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> going to have to come up with!
> But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> off the deep end myself.
>
> btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> a little better getting it out. :-)
>
> btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> if getting married is a good idea after all.
> The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> people get through every day for years with this
> stuff.

Chris
November 9th 03, 06:02 AM
"Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
...
> unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange a
payment
> of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months behind
they
> probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the CSE
office
> and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or something at
> least to get by.
>
> She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I would
> suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school to pay
> her support and arrears off.

That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away someone
else's money.

>
> "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> om...
> > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > so I need some good input.
> >
> > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > the reduction hearing) because
> > she claims she was told that it would be
> > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have been
> > retro even if it had been.
> >
> > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > for all of it right now.
> >
> > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > She literally has no money in her checking
> > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > year and a half).
> >
> > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> >
> > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > days - especially for people with no degree
> > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at $720).
> >
> > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > going to have to come up with!
> > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > off the deep end myself.
> >
> > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > a little better getting it out. :-)
> >
> > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > people get through every day for years with this
> > stuff.
>
>

Fighting for kids
November 9th 03, 06:06 AM
Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.

Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car you pay for
it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for it.


"Chris" > wrote in message
news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
>
> "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> ...
> > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange a
> payment
> > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months behind
> they
> > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the CSE
> office
> > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or something at
> > least to get by.
> >
> > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I would
> > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school to
pay
> > her support and arrears off.
>
> That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away someone
> else's money.
>
> >
> > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > so I need some good input.
> > >
> > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have
been
> > > retro even if it had been.
> > >
> > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > for all of it right now.
> > >
> > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > year and a half).
> > >
> > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > >
> > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at $720).
> > >
> > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > going to have to come up with!
> > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > off the deep end myself.
> > >
> > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > >
> > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > stuff.
> >
> >
>
>

Chris
November 9th 03, 11:28 AM
"Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
...
> Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.
>
> Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car you pay
for
> it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for it.

What do you mean by "pay for it"?

>
>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
> >
> > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange a
> > payment
> > > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months behind
> > they
> > > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the CSE
> > office
> > > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or something
at
> > > least to get by.
> > >
> > > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I
would
> > > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school to
> pay
> > > her support and arrears off.
> >
> > That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away someone
> > else's money.
> >
> > >
> > > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > > so I need some good input.
> > > >
> > > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have
> been
> > > > retro even if it had been.
> > > >
> > > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > > for all of it right now.
> > > >
> > > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > > year and a half).
> > > >
> > > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > > >
> > > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at
$720).
> > > >
> > > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > > important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> > > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > > going to have to come up with!
> > > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > > off the deep end myself.
> > > >
> > > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > > >
> > > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > > stuff.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Fighting for kids
November 9th 03, 05:57 PM
You have to contribute to supporting the child and the related expenses.

"Chris" > wrote in message
news:Tzprb.11946$0K6.9547@fed1read06...
>
> "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> ...
> > Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.
> >
> > Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car you pay
> for
> > it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for it.
>
> What do you mean by "pay for it"?
>
> >
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
> > >
> > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange a
> > > payment
> > > > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months
behind
> > > they
> > > > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the
CSE
> > > office
> > > > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or something
> at
> > > > least to get by.
> > > >
> > > > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I
> would
> > > > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school
to
> > pay
> > > > her support and arrears off.
> > >
> > > That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away
someone
> > > else's money.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > > > om...
> > > > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > > > so I need some good input.
> > > > >
> > > > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > > > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't
have
> > been
> > > > > retro even if it had been.
> > > > >
> > > > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > > > for all of it right now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > > > year and a half).
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > > > >
> > > > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at
> $720).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > > > important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> > > > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > > > going to have to come up with!
> > > > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > > > off the deep end myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > > > stuff.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Chris
November 10th 03, 02:09 AM
"Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
...
> You have to contribute to supporting the child and the related expenses.

No problem then; let the woman pay for that which she made.

>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> news:Tzprb.11946$0K6.9547@fed1read06...
> >
> > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.
> > >
> > > Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car you
pay
> > for
> > > it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for it.
> >
> > What do you mean by "pay for it"?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
> > > >
> > > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange
a
> > > > payment
> > > > > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months
> behind
> > > > they
> > > > > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the
> CSE
> > > > office
> > > > > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or
something
> > at
> > > > > least to get by.
> > > > >
> > > > > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I
> > would
> > > > > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school
> to
> > > pay
> > > > > her support and arrears off.
> > > >
> > > > That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away
> someone
> > > > else's money.
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > > > > om...
> > > > > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > > > > so I need some good input.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > > > > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > > > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > > > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > > > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > > > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > > > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > > > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > > > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't
> have
> > > been
> > > > > > retro even if it had been.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > > > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > > > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > > > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > > > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > > > > for all of it right now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > > > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > > > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > > > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > > > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > > > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > > > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > > > > year and a half).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > > > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > > > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > > > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > > > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > > > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > > > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > > > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > > > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > > > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > > > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > > > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > > > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at
> > $720).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > > > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > > > > important those two months are to the parents and I've already
had
> > > > > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > > > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > > > > going to have to come up with!
> > > > > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > > > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > > > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > > > > off the deep end myself.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > > > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > > > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > > > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > > > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > > > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > > > > stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Fighting for kids
November 10th 03, 02:34 AM
She cant make anything without a man.

"Chris" > wrote in message
news:NuCrb.14246$0K6.10425@fed1read06...
>
> "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> ...
> > You have to contribute to supporting the child and the related expenses.
>
> No problem then; let the woman pay for that which she made.
>
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > news:Tzprb.11946$0K6.9547@fed1read06...
> > >
> > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.
> > > >
> > > > Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car you
> pay
> > > for
> > > > it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for it.
> > >
> > > What do you mean by "pay for it"?
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
> > > > >
> > > > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > > > ...
> > > > > > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to
arrange
> a
> > > > > payment
> > > > > > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months
> > behind
> > > > > they
> > > > > > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call
the
> > CSE
> > > > > office
> > > > > > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or
> something
> > > at
> > > > > > least to get by.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing.
I
> > > would
> > > > > > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to
school
> > to
> > > > pay
> > > > > > her support and arrears off.
> > > > >
> > > > > That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away
> > someone
> > > > > else's money.
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > > > > > om...
> > > > > > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > > > > > so I need some good input.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > > > > > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > > > > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > > > > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > > > > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > > > > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > > > > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > > > > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > > > > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't
> > have
> > > > been
> > > > > > > retro even if it had been.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > > > > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > > > > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > > > > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > > > > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > > > > > for all of it right now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > > > > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > > > > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > > > > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > > > > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > > > > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > > > > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > > > > > year and a half).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > > > > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > > > > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > > > > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > > > > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > > > > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > > > > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > > > > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > > > > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > > > > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > > > > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > > > > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > > > > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less
at
> > > $720).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > > > > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > > > > > important those two months are to the parents and I've already
> had
> > > > > > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > > > > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > > > > > going to have to come up with!
> > > > > > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > > > > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > > > > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > > > > > off the deep end myself.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > > > > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > > > > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > > > > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > > > > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > > > > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

Melvin Gamble
November 10th 03, 09:44 AM
Forget him, Chris...

Chris wrote:
>
> "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> ...
> > Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.
> >
> > Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car you pay
> for
> > it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for it.

He hasn't even learned the difference between who "has" the child and
who fathered a child...

Mel Gamble

> What do you mean by "pay for it"?
>
> >
> >
> > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
> > >
> > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to arrange a
> > > payment
> > > > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2 months behind
> > > they
> > > > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call the CSE
> > > office
> > > > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or something
> at
> > > > least to get by.
> > > >
> > > > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is doing. I
> would
> > > > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to school to
> > pay
> > > > her support and arrears off.
> > >
> > > That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away someone
> > > else's money.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > > > om...
> > > > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > > > so I need some good input.
> > > > >
> > > > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to get
> > > > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it wouldn't have
> > been
> > > > > retro even if it had been.
> > > > >
> > > > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > > > for all of it right now.
> > > > >
> > > > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > > > year and a half).
> > > > >
> > > > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > > > >
> > > > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less at
> $720).
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > > > important those two months are to the parents and I've already had
> > > > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > > > going to have to come up with!
> > > > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > > > off the deep end myself.
> > > > >
> > > > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > > > >
> > > > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > > > stuff.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >

Chris
November 10th 03, 02:23 PM
"Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
...
> She cant make anything without a man.

She can't make anything without a Big Mac (tm) either. After all, if she
doesn't eat, she ain't gonna be making a kid. So what's your point?

>
> "Chris" > wrote in message
> news:NuCrb.14246$0K6.10425@fed1read06...
> >
> > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > ...
> > > You have to contribute to supporting the child and the related
expenses.
> >
> > No problem then; let the woman pay for that which she made.
> >
> > >
> > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > news:Tzprb.11946$0K6.9547@fed1read06...
> > > >
> > > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > > ...
> > > > > Kid = expenses = parents who made child paying for those expenses.
> > > > >
> > > > > Get used to it "Chris", pay for what you made. If you buy a car
you
> > pay
> > > > for
> > > > > it, if you a dog you pay for it, if you have a child you pay for
it.
> > > >
> > > > What do you mean by "pay for it"?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > "Chris" > wrote in message
> > > > > news:2Okrb.10351$0K6.921@fed1read06...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Fighting for kids" <adf> wrote in message
> > > > > > ...
> > > > > > > unless court ordered the CSE office will work with her to
> arrange
> > a
> > > > > > payment
> > > > > > > of the arrears, seeing that she is only something like 2
months
> > > behind
> > > > > > they
> > > > > > > probably wont do anything to her. If it were me I would call
> the
> > > CSE
> > > > > > office
> > > > > > > and make arrangements of even 10 a month on the arrears or
> > something
> > > > at
> > > > > > > least to get by.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > She has to pay the support ordered no matter what she is
doing.
> I
> > > > would
> > > > > > > suggest that she gets a part time job while she is going to
> school
> > > to
> > > > > pay
> > > > > > > her support and arrears off.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > That's right, pay, pay, PAY! Seems you're all about taking away
> > > someone
> > > > > > else's money.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > "Mike Hasemann" > wrote in message
> > > > > > > om...
> > > > > > > > I'm completely clueless when it comes to this stuff
> > > > > > > > so I need some good input.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > My girlfriend was paying support and then went to court to
get
> > > > > > > > it reduced because she was going to school.
> > > > > > > > They reduced it a little bit but now I found out
> > > > > > > > she is in arrears on 2 months of payments
> > > > > > > > (the time from when she quit her job til
> > > > > > > > the reduction hearing) because
> > > > > > > > she claims she was told that it would be
> > > > > > > > retroactive and would be waived until she finished school.
> > > > > > > > Fact is that 1) it wasn't completely waived and 2) it
wouldn't
> > > have
> > > > > been
> > > > > > > > retro even if it had been.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > But my question is how much of the arrears is she
> > > > > > > > going to have to come up with immediately?
> > > > > > > > Because basically whatever it is, that means
> > > > > > > > I will have to come up with it immediately
> > > > > > > > as she isn't working and I'm footing the bill
> > > > > > > > for all of it right now.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Will they accept an offer of an extra $50 a month
> > > > > > > > until the arrears are caught up (total arrears
> > > > > > > > are $720)? What happens if they tell her to pay
> > > > > > > > the entire amount immediately and she can't?
> > > > > > > > She literally has no money in her checking
> > > > > > > > and no income at all. And we are NOT married
> > > > > > > > or engaged or anything else (only been dating a
> > > > > > > > year and a half).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I don't see how they expect her to come up with the arrears
> > > > > > > > in a more timely fashion. But just because I think that,
> > > > > > > > I'm not suggesting that the court won't do it.
> > > > > > > > Which is why I'm posting this to begin with.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The bottom line is that she has no money and no job and
> > > > > > > > jobs aren't exactly growing on trees these
> > > > > > > > days - especially for people with no degree
> > > > > > > > and no real measurable job skills. That's the
> > > > > > > > whole reason I agreed to support her while
> > > > > > > > she was going to the hair cutting school.
> > > > > > > > I was hoping someone in here would be able to
> > > > > > > > put my mind at ease and tell me that most courts are
> > > > > > > > going to accept the payment option to make up
> > > > > > > > the arrears ($50 x 15 months = $750 total - arrears are less
> at
> > > > $720).
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks and, as they used to say on Dragnet, "Just
> > > > > > > > the Facts" please, Just the Facts. I know how
> > > > > > > > important those two months are to the parents and I've
already
> > had
> > > > > > > > a talk with her about it to make sure she knows it too -
> > > > > > > > especially since its an unexpected expense that I'm now
> > > > > > > > going to have to come up with!
> > > > > > > > But I can only do so much and I'm about at my limit
> > > > > > > > between supporting her, her tuition and her kids.
> > > > > > > > Any more in arrears payments and I'm going to go
> > > > > > > > off the deep end myself.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > btw: This is a great place to vent. I feel
> > > > > > > > a little better getting it out. :-)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > btw #2: This whole thing really makes me wonder
> > > > > > > > if getting married is a good idea after all.
> > > > > > > > The stress of this is unbelievable and it isn't
> > > > > > > > even my divorce stuff. I can't begin to imagine how you
> > > > > > > > people get through every day for years with this
> > > > > > > > stuff.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>