Who Is Fighting For Kids?

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My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
first.

Am I close?

nm

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Axe to grind with any man who gets "significantly" behind in payments.

Lousy mother? Cant judge a person by their post about "what kind of
mother" they are.

I beleive earlier it was stated that "CP's should be held accountable
for their actions", that the "sytem is screwed up", that "all NCP's
are not bad", etc.

Which would support some of what you against CP's and CS have said.
It sounds to me that you are trying to attack and debunk using
personal tactics that frankly reflect directly on yourself not on the
character or parenting abilities of anyone else in this group.


On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>first.
>
>Am I close?
>
>nm

[Gini52]

In article >,
says...
>
>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>first.
>
>Am I close?
===
Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that prevent her
from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her here and
no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change. She
can't. It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely words
she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel for her
psyche, if you will. When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
===
===
>
>nm
>

[Fighting For Kids]

On 10 Nov 2003 10:29:28 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article >,
says...
>>
>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>>first.
>>
>>Am I close?
>===
>Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that prevent her
>from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her here and
>no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change. She
>can't.

This would imply that what comes out of your mouth is always right,
which ive obviously denomstrated before was wrong. I believe
anything that comes out of your mouth? Not.

It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely words
>she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel for her
>psyche, if you will.

Which you seem to have the need to fullfill with you counter posts.
Hmm.. I think you just diagnosed yourself.

When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
>serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
>addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.

Really? Then how in the world did I ever make it to my current age if
I cant survive without it.

Im telling you Gini you should really stop talking about yourself.

>===
>===
>>
>>nm
>>

[Fighting For Kids]

On Mon, 10 Nov 2003 14:08:49 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> >My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>> >has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>> >If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>> >Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>> >first.
>> >
>> >Am I close?
>> ===
>> Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
>prevent her
>> from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her here
>and
>> no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change. She
>> can't. It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely
>words
>> she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel for
>her
>> psyche, if you will. When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes,
>it
>> serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
>> addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
>
>And when the reaction is not what she hopes, the attackes get even more
>hysterical


Hmm.. and what exactly are you doing? Im not really attacking, its
called being attacked.
>
>> ===
>> ===
>> >
>> >nm
>> >
>>
>

[Paul Fritz]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >,
> says...
> >
> >My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
> >has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> >If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> >Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
> >first.
> >
> >Am I close?
> ===
> Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
prevent her
> from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her here
and
> no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change. She
> can't. It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely
words
> she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel for
her
> psyche, if you will. When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes,
it
> serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
> addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.

And when the reaction is not what she hopes, the attackes get even more
hysterical

> ===
> ===
> >
> >nm
> >
>

[Jon]

and I would put you in jail, no problem


> wrote in message
...
> My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
> has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
> first.
>
> Am I close?
>
> nm
>

[Freedom]

Psycho

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On 10 Nov 2003 10:29:28 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>
> >In article >,
> says...
> >>
> >>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
> >>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> >>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> >>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
> >>first.
> >>
> >>Am I close?
> >===
> >Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
prevent her
> >from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her
here and
> >no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change.
She
> >can't.
>
> This would imply that what comes out of your mouth is always right,
> which ive obviously denomstrated before was wrong. I believe
> anything that comes out of your mouth? Not.
>
> It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely words
> >she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel for
her
> >psyche, if you will.
>
> Which you seem to have the need to fullfill with you counter posts.
> Hmm.. I think you just diagnosed yourself.
>
> When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
> >serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
> >addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
>
> Really? Then how in the world did I ever make it to my current age if
> I cant survive without it.
>
> Im telling you Gini you should really stop talking about yourself.
>
> >===
> >===
> >>
> >>nm
> >>
>

[Gini52]

In article >, Paul Fritz says...
>
>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >,
>> says...
>> >
>> >My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>> >has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>> >If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>> >Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>> >first.
>> >
>> >Am I close?
>> ===
>> Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
>prevent her
>> from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her here
>and
>> no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change. She
>> can't. It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely
>words
>> she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel for
>her
>> psyche, if you will. When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes,
>it
>> serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
>> addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
>
>And when the reaction is not what she hopes, the attackes get even more
>hysterical
======
I wonder how many keyboards she's destroyed.
======
======
>
>> ===
>> ===
>> >
>> >nm
>> >
>>
>
>

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
>
>On 10 Nov 2003 10:29:28 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>
>>In article >,
says...
>>>
>>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>>>first.
>>>
>>>Am I close?
>>===
>>Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that prevent her
>>from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her here and
>>no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change. She
>>can't.
>
>This would imply that what comes out of your mouth is always right,
>which ive obviously denomstrated before was wrong.
========
You are confusing your opinion with fact. Just because you say something does
not make it valid. I even posted the relevent federal statute that defines "home
state" and the quidelines for competing jurisdictions. You demonstrated nothing
except that you can't extrapolate meaning from written text and that you haven't
a clue about legal jurisdiction.
========
...........................................
>When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
>>serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is an
>>addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
>
>Really? Then how in the world did I ever make it to my current age if
>I cant survive without it.
====
You were diagnosed as a child when you demonstrated the same qualities. You have
done this all your life. You have never been able to engage in normal social
interaction. You lash out at everyone and everything. You are incapable of
admitting error because your self-esteem is so low. You can only survive
psychologically by degrading others, giving you a false sense of perfection.
You've been in therapy all your life without progress. You have engaged in
similar escapades with other newsgroups for years necessitating frequent changes
in your user ID. Your illness is why your husband left you--not your child's
illness--and that is why he refuses to have any contact with you. You also knew
before you had children that there as a real risk of passing your illness on to
them but you chose to have them anyway. That was an unfortunate decision because
rather than give them a good role model to help them have a more stable and
productive life, you have given them nothing but your self-perpetuating anger
and incompetence. It is so sad for them that you have chosen to do this.
Hopefully they will thrive in spite of you (and hopefully they will never learn
how to search usenet archives).
===
===

[Bob Whiteside]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> >
> >On 10 Nov 2003 10:29:28 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
> >
> >>In article >,
> says...
> >>>
> >>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
> >>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> >>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> >>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
> >>>first.
> >>>
> >>>Am I close?
> >>===
> >>Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
prevent her
> >>from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her
here and
> >>no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change.
She
> >>can't.
> >
> >This would imply that what comes out of your mouth is always right,
> >which ive obviously denomstrated before was wrong.
> ========
> You are confusing your opinion with fact. Just because you say something
does
> not make it valid. I even posted the relevent federal statute that defines
"home
> state" and the quidelines for competing jurisdictions. You demonstrated
nothing
> except that you can't extrapolate meaning from written text and that you
haven't
> a clue about legal jurisdiction.
> ========
> ..........................................
> >When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
> >>serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is
an
> >>addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
> >
> >Really? Then how in the world did I ever make it to my current age if
> >I cant survive without it.
> ====
> You were diagnosed as a child when you demonstrated the same qualities.
You have
> done this all your life. You have never been able to engage in normal
social
> interaction. You lash out at everyone and everything. You are incapable of
> admitting error because your self-esteem is so low. You can only survive
> psychologically by degrading others, giving you a false sense of
perfection.
> You've been in therapy all your life without progress. You have engaged in
> similar escapades with other newsgroups for years necessitating frequent
changes
> in your user ID. Your illness is why your husband left you--not your
child's
> illness--and that is why he refuses to have any contact with you. You also
knew
> before you had children that there as a real risk of passing your illness
on to
> them but you chose to have them anyway. That was an unfortunate decision
because
> rather than give them a good role model to help them have a more stable
and
> productive life, you have given them nothing but your self-perpetuating
anger
> and incompetence. It is so sad for them that you have chosen to do this.
> Hopefully they will thrive in spite of you (and hopefully they will never
learn
> how to search usenet archives).
> ===
> ===

She had a similar experience with her father. Her own father could not cope
with the depth of her illness so he too walked away and abandoned her. As a
result, she hates all men. The state has stepped in to rescue her by
diagnosing her as being disabled making her former welfare benefits
permanent. That allows her to play her games on the computer all day long
to satisfy her need to put down men and make her feel superior to other
women. She has adopted the tenets of feminism because they reinforce her
belief that all men are bad. The feminist doctrine feeds right into her
areas of need by telling her it is okay to be a victim, and she is not
alone. Like other feminists she doesn't recognize that driving men away
makes their lives harder. She cannot come to grips with the fact having men
around to share in child rearing through increased access allows women to
improve themselves economically in marriage and post-divorce. And like
other feminists, she believes the pretzel logic that takes a small portion
of a few women's experiences and catastrophizes them as being representative
of all women's reality.

[Paul Fritz]

"Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>

>
> She had a similar experience with her father. Her own father could not
cope
> with the depth of her illness so he too walked away and abandoned her. As
a
> result, she hates all men. The state has stepped in to rescue her by
> diagnosing her as being disabled making her former welfare benefits
> permanent. That allows her to play her games on the computer all day long
> to satisfy her need to put down men and make her feel superior to other
> women. She has adopted the tenets of feminism because they reinforce her
> belief that all men are bad. The feminist doctrine feeds right into her
> areas of need by telling her it is okay to be a victim, and she is not
> alone. Like other feminists she doesn't recognize that driving men away
> makes their lives harder. She cannot come to grips with the fact having
men
> around to share in child rearing through increased access allows women to
> improve themselves economically in marriage and post-divorce. And like
> other feminists, she believes the pretzel logic that takes a small portion
> of a few women's experiences and catastrophizes them as being
representative
> of all women's reality.
>

If I didn't know better, I'd think you were talking about looney lorain


>

[Paul Fritz]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Paul Fritz says...
> >
> >
> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article >,
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
> >> >has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> >> >If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> >> >Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
> >> >first.
> >> >
> >> >Am I close?
> >> ===
> >> Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
> >prevent her
> >> from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her
here
> >and
> >> no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change.
She
> >> can't. It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely
> >words
> >> she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel
for
> >her
> >> psyche, if you will. When someone here reacts to her in the way she
hopes,
> >it
> >> serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is
an
> >> addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
> >
> >And when the reaction is not what she hopes, the attackes get even more
> >hysterical
> ======
> I wonder how many keyboards she's destroyed.

I am LMAO at how well you have her pegged.

Someone should keep a list of all the 'debate fatak errors" she has already
commited

<snicker>

> ======
> ======
> >
> >> ===
> >> ===
> >> >
> >> >nm
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
>

[Fighting For Kids]

Ok, Paul or Ken or are you Bob?? hmm.... one really wonders.

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:26:47 -0500, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Paul Fritz says...
>> >
>> >
>> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> In article >,
>> >> says...
>> >> >
>> >> >My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>> >> >has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>> >> >If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>> >> >Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>> >> >first.
>> >> >
>> >> >Am I close?
>> >> ===
>> >> Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
>> >prevent her
>> >> from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her
>here
>> >and
>> >> no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change.
>She
>> >> can't. It is folly to attempt to counter her arguments. They are merely
>> >words
>> >> she furiously types for the sole purpose of getting a reaction--fuel
>for
>> >her
>> >> psyche, if you will. When someone here reacts to her in the way she
>hopes,
>> >it
>> >> serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is
>an
>> >> addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
>> >
>> >And when the reaction is not what she hopes, the attackes get even more
>> >hysterical
>> ======
>> I wonder how many keyboards she's destroyed.
>
>I am LMAO at how well you have her pegged.
>
>Someone should keep a list of all the 'debate fatak errors" she has already
>commited
>
><snicker>
>
>> ======
>> ======
>> >
>> >> ===
>> >> ===
>> >> >
>> >> >nm
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >
>> >
>>
>

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:53:27 GMT, "Bob Whiteside"
> wrote:

>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>> says...
>> >
>> >On 10 Nov 2003 10:29:28 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>> >
>> >>In article >,
>> says...
>> >>>
>> >>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>> >>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>> >>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>> >>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>> >>>first.
>> >>>
>> >>>Am I close?
>> >>===
>> >>Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
>prevent her
>> >>from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her
>here and
>> >>no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not change.
>She
>> >>can't.
>> >
>> >This would imply that what comes out of your mouth is always right,
>> >which ive obviously denomstrated before was wrong.
>> ========
>> You are confusing your opinion with fact. Just because you say something
>does
>> not make it valid. I even posted the relevent federal statute that defines
>"home
>> state" and the quidelines for competing jurisdictions. You demonstrated
>nothing
>> except that you can't extrapolate meaning from written text and that you
>haven't
>> a clue about legal jurisdiction.
>> ========
>> ..........................................
>> >When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
>> >>serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It is
>an
>> >>addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
>> >
>> >Really? Then how in the world did I ever make it to my current age if
>> >I cant survive without it.
>> ====
>> You were diagnosed as a child when you demonstrated the same qualities.
>You have
>> done this all your life. You have never been able to engage in normal
>social
>> interaction. You lash out at everyone and everything. You are incapable of
>> admitting error because your self-esteem is so low. You can only survive
>> psychologically by degrading others, giving you a false sense of
>perfection.
>> You've been in therapy all your life without progress. You have engaged in
>> similar escapades with other newsgroups for years necessitating frequent
>changes
>> in your user ID. Your illness is why your husband left you--not your
>child's
>> illness--and that is why he refuses to have any contact with you. You also
>knew
>> before you had children that there as a real risk of passing your illness
>on to
>> them but you chose to have them anyway. That was an unfortunate decision
>because
>> rather than give them a good role model to help them have a more stable
>and
>> productive life, you have given them nothing but your self-perpetuating
>anger
>> and incompetence. It is so sad for them that you have chosen to do this.
>> Hopefully they will thrive in spite of you (and hopefully they will never
>learn
>> how to search usenet archives).
>> ===
>> ===
>
>She had a similar experience with her father. Her own father could not cope
>with the depth of her illness so he too walked away and abandoned her. As a
>result, she hates all men. The state has stepped in to rescue her by
>diagnosing her as being disabled making her former welfare benefits
>permanent. That allows her to play her games on the computer all day long
>to satisfy her need to put down men and make her feel superior to other
>women. She has adopted the tenets of feminism because they reinforce her
>belief that all men are bad. The feminist doctrine feeds right into her
>areas of need by telling her it is okay to be a victim, and she is not
>alone. Like other feminists she doesn't recognize that driving men away
>makes their lives harder. She cannot come to grips with the fact having men
>around to share in child rearing through increased access allows women to
>improve themselves economically in marriage and post-divorce. And like
>other feminists, she believes the pretzel logic that takes a small portion
>of a few women's experiences and catastrophizes them as being representative
>of all women's reality.
>

blah blah.. sorry my father didnt abandoned me, like you did your
children. I dont hate all men, just you and your cronies.. oh and we
must not forget the deadbeats of America. Welfare benefits? Hardly,
you are more the type to be on Welfare. Play games on the computer
all day long? I dont think so. Feel superior to other women? Like
who Gini and teacher preacher? Ha, thats not very hard to do.
Feminism? Adopted some of their beliefs, but not all.
Victim? IM not the one claiming victim. Im doing very well without
my childrens father helping me out. If anyone plays victim here is
the deadbeats and the mens rights movement. Power is going going and
will soon be gone. Don't like the tables turned, huh?
Driving men away makes my life harder? **Cough**
Having a deadbeat around my children does nothing for my children nor
myself. I dont need someone who cant own up to their responsiblities
teaching my children anything, as far as helping me? Ha..thats funny.

The last sentence out of your mouth really cracks me up. Thats what
you cronies think, I have stated over and over that there are good and
bad parents and that SOME NCP's are deadbeats.

If anyone is using the small portion of experiences and then turns
them into everyone's experience that would be you cronies.

[Fighting For Kids]

Ken? Bob? Paul? Harry? Joe?


On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 00:15:30 -0500, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>>
>
>>
>> She had a similar experience with her father. Her own father could not
>cope
>> with the depth of her illness so he too walked away and abandoned her. As
>a
>> result, she hates all men. The state has stepped in to rescue her by
>> diagnosing her as being disabled making her former welfare benefits
>> permanent. That allows her to play her games on the computer all day long
>> to satisfy her need to put down men and make her feel superior to other
>> women. She has adopted the tenets of feminism because they reinforce her
>> belief that all men are bad. The feminist doctrine feeds right into her
>> areas of need by telling her it is okay to be a victim, and she is not
>> alone. Like other feminists she doesn't recognize that driving men away
>> makes their lives harder. She cannot come to grips with the fact having
>men
>> around to share in child rearing through increased access allows women to
>> improve themselves economically in marriage and post-divorce. And like
>> other feminists, she believes the pretzel logic that takes a small portion
>> of a few women's experiences and catastrophizes them as being
>representative
>> of all women's reality.
>>
>
>If I didn't know better, I'd think you were talking about looney lorain
>
>
>>
>

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FFK ...
On the whole, most contributors here have stated their case. They are
divorced, going through a divorce, or have questions and are here
seeking answers.

I went through a terrible divorce, but am now remarried to a wonderful
woman and have no CS probs now.

What's your story? I have an idea you're a female, with (about) a
$15,000 arrearage owing to you and/or your child.

Wanna comment on that?

Give us some background on yourself.

Maybe then we could understand your zeal. Otherwise, you're going to
seem like just a cranky troll.


nm

[Dusty]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 04:53:27 GMT, "Bob Whiteside"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >On 10 Nov 2003 10:29:28 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>In article
>,
> >> says...
> >> >>>
> >> >>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS,
and
> >> >>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> >> >>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> >> >>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in
jail
> >> >>>first.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Am I close?
> >> >>===
> >> >>Probably. But, she also has severe psychological abnormalities that
> >prevent her
> >> >>from having normal social interactions. No matter what is said to her
> >here and
> >> >>no matter how many times folks go round with her, she will not
change.
> >She
> >> >>can't.
> >> >
> >> >This would imply that what comes out of your mouth is always right,
> >> >which ive obviously denomstrated before was wrong.
> >> ========
> >> You are confusing your opinion with fact. Just because you say
something
> >does
> >> not make it valid. I even posted the relevent federal statute that
defines
> >"home
> >> state" and the quidelines for competing jurisdictions. You demonstrated
> >nothing
> >> except that you can't extrapolate meaning from written text and that
you
> >haven't
> >> a clue about legal jurisdiction.
> >> ========
> >> ..........................................
> >> >When someone here reacts to her in the way she hopes, it
> >> >>serves to give her more energy for her subsequent round of fire. It
is
> >an
> >> >>addiction for her--she cannot survive without it.
> >> >
> >> >Really? Then how in the world did I ever make it to my current age if
> >> >I cant survive without it.
> >> ====
> >> You were diagnosed as a child when you demonstrated the same qualities.
> >You have
> >> done this all your life. You have never been able to engage in normal
> >social
> >> interaction. You lash out at everyone and everything. You are incapable
of
> >> admitting error because your self-esteem is so low. You can only
survive
> >> psychologically by degrading others, giving you a false sense of
> >perfection.
> >> You've been in therapy all your life without progress. You have engaged
in
> >> similar escapades with other newsgroups for years necessitating
frequent
> >changes
> >> in your user ID. Your illness is why your husband left you--not your
> >child's
> >> illness--and that is why he refuses to have any contact with you. You
also
> >knew
> >> before you had children that there as a real risk of passing your
illness
> >on to
> >> them but you chose to have them anyway. That was an unfortunate
decision
> >because
> >> rather than give them a good role model to help them have a more stable
> >and
> >> productive life, you have given them nothing but your self-perpetuating
> >anger
> >> and incompetence. It is so sad for them that you have chosen to do
this.
> >> Hopefully they will thrive in spite of you (and hopefully they will
never
> >learn
> >> how to search usenet archives).
> >> ===
> >> ===
> >
> >She had a similar experience with her father. Her own father could not
cope
> >with the depth of her illness so he too walked away and abandoned her.
As a
> >result, she hates all men. The state has stepped in to rescue her by
> >diagnosing her as being disabled making her former welfare benefits
> >permanent. That allows her to play her games on the computer all day
long
> >to satisfy her need to put down men and make her feel superior to other
> >women. She has adopted the tenets of feminism because they reinforce her
> >belief that all men are bad. The feminist doctrine feeds right into her
> >areas of need by telling her it is okay to be a victim, and she is not
> >alone. Like other feminists she doesn't recognize that driving men away
> >makes their lives harder. She cannot come to grips with the fact having
men
> >around to share in child rearing through increased access allows women to
> >improve themselves economically in marriage and post-divorce. And like
> >other feminists, she believes the pretzel logic that takes a small
portion
> >of a few women's experiences and catastrophizes them as being
representative
> >of all women's reality.
> >
>
> blah blah.. sorry my father didnt abandoned me, like you did your
> children. I dont hate all men, just you and your cronies.. oh and we
> must not forget the deadbeats of America. Welfare benefits? Hardly,
> you are more the type to be on Welfare. Play games on the computer
> all day long? I dont think so. Feel superior to other women? Like
> who Gini and teacher preacher? Ha, thats not very hard to do.
> Feminism? Adopted some of their beliefs, but not all.
> Victim? IM not the one claiming victim. Im doing very well without
> my childrens father helping me out. If anyone plays victim here is
> the deadbeats and the mens rights movement. Power is going going and
> will soon be gone. Don't like the tables turned, huh?
> Driving men away makes my life harder? **Cough**
> Having a deadbeat around my children does nothing for my children nor
> myself. I dont need someone who cant own up to their responsiblities
> teaching my children anything, as far as helping me? Ha..thats funny.
>
> The last sentence out of your mouth really cracks me up. Thats what
> you cronies think, I have stated over and over that there are good and
> bad parents and that SOME NCP's are deadbeats.
>
> If anyone is using the small portion of experiences and then turns
> them into everyone's experience that would be you cronies.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Wow!! I see punctuation! I see grammar in use!! I see you found your
spell checker too!!! Now if only you'd stay on your meds long enough for
them to have an effect on your poor, deluded mind there might be a change in
your thinking! (I know, I know, I'm really reaching, but there is always
hope...)

So FFK, my advise is NOT to sell your meds to the local drug dealer for cash
to buy yourself more smokes. Keep the meds for yourself, take them, that's
what they're there for.

[Dusty]

Hello Jon,

Humm... let me see if I understand what you're saying...

We have FFK's X-hubby, who doesn't make enough money to cover his full CS
award AND keep a roof over his head nor food on the table, or gas in the
car. And your solution is to lock him up because he can't cover the cost of
all his obligations?

Is this correct?

"Jon" > wrote in message
news:N4Vrb.165813$Fm2.144359@attbi_s04...
> and I would put you in jail, no problem
>
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
> > My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
> > has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
> > If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
> > Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
> > first.
> >
> > Am I close?
> >
> > nm
> >
>
>

[Fighting For Kids]

That is not what I said. My ex hubby makes 40,000 a year and doesnt
pay a child support amount that was determined when he made 20,000 a
year.

I make MORE than he does, last year he paid 2,000 for support. Dont
tell me he cant "afford" it.

If I really wanted to be a bitch I could go in and ask that they raise
the amount to reflect the change in his income.

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 11:43:27 -0500, "Dusty" > wrote:

>Hello Jon,
>
>Humm... let me see if I understand what you're saying...
>
>We have FFK's X-hubby, who doesn't make enough money to cover his full CS
>award AND keep a roof over his head nor food on the table, or gas in the
>car. And your solution is to lock him up because he can't cover the cost of
>all his obligations?
>
>Is this correct?
>
>"Jon" > wrote in message
>news:N4Vrb.165813$Fm2.144359@attbi_s04...
>> and I would put you in jail, no problem
>>
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>> > has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>> > If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>> > Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>> > first.
>> >
>> > Am I close?
>> >
>> > nm
>> >
>>
>>
>

[Fighting For Kids]

If I agree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
If I disagree with something someone says here, the group attacks.

My ex doesnt pay support. Last year he paid a total of $2,000 or
167.00 a month on average. He makes about $40,000 a year and then
complains to the CSE office about how he cant afford to live and his
support order is too high (he is ordered to pay about 6000 a year for
two kids, thats 500 a month. He also doesnt have to pay any health
insurance plan amounts as I pick up the tab. My employer offers family
health insurance, but thats still 300 a month!!! I have to have it
too for my sons medical expenses. I PAY the co-pays on everything also
and I meet the deductable each year).

The courts ordered him to pay an additional $100.00 on his arrears, he
calls CSE and complains that he cant afford it. They reduce the
amount to a dollar!!!! He is 15,000 behind in arrears, and no our
state doesnt charge interest on the arrears.

His original support order was made when he was making about $20,000.
I have NOT asked for it to be raised ( which would move it up to
almost 900 a month). On top of all this one of his children is
disabled and he doesn't help with anything.

He has visiation rights and doesn't even bother to see his children.
HE DOESNT, I have nothing to do with this part. I have in the past
begged him to see his children and he refuses because of his sons
problems. I also have make sure my children see at least pictures of
him and we talk about him all the time. I NEVER talk bad about him to
them. That is not right. I will not however make up excuses for him
as to why he isnt involved. If they ask, I simply say "I dont know"
or "thats his choice".

I have worked my ASS OFF full-time, gone to school full-time, taken my
son to all kinds of doctors and specialists and therapist every single
week all to make sure my family is taken care of, im very active with
my children's schools and their extra ciricular activites. He does
nothing.

So, I know that you all think i'm an evil bitch who just wants to get
as much money out of my child's father as I can, but that is simply
not the case.

I do not however agree with a lot of things you guys post here and i'm
willing to be attacked to voice my own opinon.


On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:20:28 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>FFK ...
>On the whole, most contributors here have stated their case. They are
>divorced, going through a divorce, or have questions and are here
>seeking answers.
>
>I went through a terrible divorce, but am now remarried to a wonderful
>woman and have no CS probs now.
>
>What's your story? I have an idea you're a female, with (about) a
>$15,000 arrearage owing to you and/or your child.
>
>Wanna comment on that?
>
>Give us some background on yourself.
>
>Maybe then we could understand your zeal. Otherwise, you're going to
>seem like just a cranky troll.
>
>
>nm

[Fighting For Kids]

I better clarify before someone hits me over the head with club.

"my ex doesnt his ordered support all the time" instead of doesnt pay
support (although he didnt pay support for an entire year, so I guess
its kinda true but not currently)

On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 14:30:22 -0700, Fighting For Kids >
wrote:

>
>If I agree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
>If I disagree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
>
>My ex doesnt pay support. Last year he paid a total of $2,000 or
>167.00 a month on average. He makes about $40,000 a year and then
>complains to the CSE office about how he cant afford to live and his
>support order is too high (he is ordered to pay about 6000 a year for
>two kids, thats 500 a month. He also doesnt have to pay any health
>insurance plan amounts as I pick up the tab. My employer offers family
>health insurance, but thats still 300 a month!!! I have to have it
>too for my sons medical expenses. I PAY the co-pays on everything also
>and I meet the deductable each year).
>
>The courts ordered him to pay an additional $100.00 on his arrears, he
>calls CSE and complains that he cant afford it. They reduce the
>amount to a dollar!!!! He is 15,000 behind in arrears, and no our
>state doesnt charge interest on the arrears.
>
>His original support order was made when he was making about $20,000.
>I have NOT asked for it to be raised ( which would move it up to
>almost 900 a month). On top of all this one of his children is
>disabled and he doesn't help with anything.
>
>He has visiation rights and doesn't even bother to see his children.
>HE DOESNT, I have nothing to do with this part. I have in the past
>begged him to see his children and he refuses because of his sons
>problems. I also have make sure my children see at least pictures of
>him and we talk about him all the time. I NEVER talk bad about him to
>them. That is not right. I will not however make up excuses for him
>as to why he isnt involved. If they ask, I simply say "I dont know"
>or "thats his choice".
>
>I have worked my ASS OFF full-time, gone to school full-time, taken my
>son to all kinds of doctors and specialists and therapist every single
>week all to make sure my family is taken care of, im very active with
>my children's schools and their extra ciricular activites. He does
>nothing.
>
>So, I know that you all think i'm an evil bitch who just wants to get
>as much money out of my child's father as I can, but that is simply
>not the case.
>
>I do not however agree with a lot of things you guys post here and i'm
>willing to be attacked to voice my own opinon.
>
>
>On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:20:28 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
>>FFK ...
>>On the whole, most contributors here have stated their case. They are
>>divorced, going through a divorce, or have questions and are here
>>seeking answers.
>>
>>I went through a terrible divorce, but am now remarried to a wonderful
>>woman and have no CS probs now.
>>
>>What's your story? I have an idea you're a female, with (about) a
>>$15,000 arrearage owing to you and/or your child.
>>
>>Wanna comment on that?
>>
>>Give us some background on yourself.
>>
>>Maybe then we could understand your zeal. Otherwise, you're going to
>>seem like just a cranky troll.
>>
>>
>>nm

[[email protected]]

FFK ...
I can (now) see why you are so bitter.

I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
be ****ed too, if I were you.

Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
Court in his pocket?

FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
anywhere.

If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
anything, At All.

I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
year income. That's two kid's, right?

You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.

I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
what's fair.
$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
You know what you gotta do. Do it.

nm

[Paul Fritz]

You are only heraring one side of the story, and just like all her posts, I
bet it is full of wrong ASSumptions and exagerations. Also if she acts this
way in court, it would be no wonder if the judge was just plain tired of all
of her BS.

> wrote in message
...
> FFK ...
> I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>
> I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
> end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
> be ****ed too, if I were you.
>
> Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
> cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
> Court in his pocket?
>
> FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
> can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
> anywhere.
>
> If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
> isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
> anything, At All.
>
> I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
> is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
> year income. That's two kid's, right?
>
> You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
> particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>
> I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
> what's fair.
> $2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
> You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>
> nm
>

[Fighting For Kids]

I wish that I was exagerating this, but im not.

I have fought for 5 years and just got tired of it. The CSE office
unfortuneately doesn't even know their own rules and regs. My state
doesnt put emphasis on the chldren as clearly demonstrated by their
own expenditures on education and other child related services.

Do I spend all my time and energy on a deadbeat or do I spend my time
finding other ways to support my children and take care of my sons
extraordinary needs?

I have taken on almost all (except the small amount he contributes) my
child's expenses on my own.

I have said I dont agree with the system. I dont go into court and
ask for him to pay more because I feel he shouldnt have to pay 800 + a
month for supporting his children.




On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 08:34:26 -0500, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>You are only heraring one side of the story, and just like all her posts, I
>bet it is full of wrong ASSumptions and exagerations. Also if she acts this
>way in court, it would be no wonder if the judge was just plain tired of all
>of her BS.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>FFK ...
>I can (now) see why you are so bitter.

Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
evil person.

>
>I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
>end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
>be ****ed too, if I were you.

Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.

>
>Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
>cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
>Court in his pocket?

Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
screwed up, bad for both sides.


>
>FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
>can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
>anywhere.

No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.

>
>If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
>isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
>anything, At All.

Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
charges but his "friends" hide him.
>
>I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
>is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
>year income. That's two kid's, right?

Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
expensive.

>
>You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
>particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.

They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
half.

>
>I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
>what's fair.
>$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
>You know what you gotta do. Do it.

Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
>
>nm

[[email protected]]

FFK ...
Just where are you?

Is there no way (like a civil action) that you can get what's fair?
Jeezus, with a disabled child, if you were here in Mi, you could tear
your ex a new ass.

How 'bout trying something different. What about getting the folks who
work in the disabled children's organizations to lean on some folks who
have some pull?
They have a lot of grunt with the politicians, because disabled kids
just DO NOT get messed around with.
The disabled are high on everybody's priority list, and that in itself
should get things turned around, IMO.

nm

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:08:44 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>FFK ...
>Just where are you?

I would rather not say as this is a public forum. If you catch my
drift. In the states.

>
>Is there no way (like a civil action) that you can get what's fair?

I could go in and rip a new ass if I really wanted to since he is
making more, and has a disabled child. However, im not vicious. I
just want him to pay what he was ordered.

>Jeezus, with a disabled child, if you were here in Mi, you could tear
>your ex a new ass.

Since my son is now in school it makes a HUGE amount of difference
financially. It was extremely expensive before because 'daycare" was
unavailable to him. I had to pay out of pocket for a person to come
in. At one point I lost my job because I couldnt find anyone to care
for him. It was awful. I still didnt ask for "help", I was smart
enough to save up enough money to get me through it.

>
>How 'bout trying something different. What about getting the folks who
>work in the disabled children's organizations to lean on some folks who
>have some pull?

These people contact the officals so much they have warn out their
ties. Now its more like they demand something be done and the
politicans dont listen anymore. Its rather sad.

There "were" some good programs that were available for families but
all have been cut because of the overall budget cuts.

>They have a lot of grunt with the politicians, because disabled kids
>just DO NOT get messed around with.
>The disabled are high on everybody's priority list, and that in itself
>should get things turned around, IMO.

The CSE office knows my son is disabled and doesnt give a rats ass.
The worker we used to have said it didnt matter that my son was
disabled and required more care. She told me I had to figure out how
to meet those needs on my own. I told her I had no objection to
meeting his needs, afterall ive been doing it for some time now. All
I was asking is that she enforce the child support order. She said
she couldnt get into the all the details about this case because she
only acts as a neutral third party.

Neutral third party my ASS!!


>
>nm

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 15:08:44 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>FFK ...
>Just where are you?

I would rather not say as this is a public forum. If you catch my
drift. In the states.

>
>Is there no way (like a civil action) that you can get what's fair?

I could go in and rip a new ass if I really wanted to since he is
making more, and has a disabled child. However, im not vicious. I
just want him to pay what he was ordered.

>Jeezus, with a disabled child, if you were here in Mi, you could tear
>your ex a new ass.

Since my son is now in school it makes a HUGE amount of difference
financially. It was extremely expensive before because 'daycare" was
unavailable to him. I had to pay out of pocket for a person to come
in. At one point I lost my job because I couldnt find anyone to care
for him. It was awful. I still didnt ask for "help", I was smart
enough to save up enough money to get me through it.

>
>How 'bout trying something different. What about getting the folks who
>work in the disabled children's organizations to lean on some folks who
>have some pull?

These people contact the officals so much they have warn out their
ties. Now its more like they demand something be done and the
politicans dont listen anymore. Its rather sad.

There "were" some good programs that were available for families but
all have been cut because of the overall budget cuts.

>They have a lot of grunt with the politicians, because disabled kids
>just DO NOT get messed around with.
>The disabled are high on everybody's priority list, and that in itself
>should get things turned around, IMO.

The CSE office knows my son is disabled and doesnt give a rats ass.
The worker we used to have said it didnt matter that my son was
disabled and required more care. She told me I had to figure out how
to meet those needs on my own. I told her I had no objection to
meeting his needs, afterall ive been doing it for some time now. All
I was asking is that she enforce the child support order. She said
she couldnt get into the all the details about this case because she
only acts as a neutral third party.

Neutral third party my ASS!!


>
>nm

[[email protected]]

FFK ...
You said you had to leave your job for a while to take care of your
child. The state you're in must be totally behind the rest of the
country in taking care of it's disabled kids if you received no help, or
were offered no help with that child.

Have you checked with neighboring states, or another state? Maybe moving
to a state that took care of it's kids would be better than where you're
at now.
You sure as hell couldn't be much worse off when it comes to the CS, and
maybe another state wouldn't be so 'tolerant'.


I just can't believe their total indifference to your/a special needs
child.
Maybe 'cause it's not that way here.


nm

[[email protected]]

FFK ...
You said you had to leave your job for a while to take care of your
child. The state you're in must be totally behind the rest of the
country in taking care of it's disabled kids if you received no help, or
were offered no help with that child.

Have you checked with neighboring states, or another state? Maybe moving
to a state that took care of it's kids would be better than where you're
at now.
You sure as hell couldn't be much worse off when it comes to the CS, and
maybe another state wouldn't be so 'tolerant'.


I just can't believe their total indifference to your/a special needs
child.
Maybe 'cause it's not that way here.


nm

[The Beast]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
>
> If I agree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
> If I disagree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
>
> My ex doesnt pay support. Last year he paid a total of $2,000 or
> 167.00 a month on average. He makes about $40,000 a year and then
> complains to the CSE office about how he cant afford to live and his
> support order is too high (he is ordered to pay about 6000 a year for
> two kids, thats 500 a month. He also doesnt have to pay any health
> insurance plan amounts as I pick up the tab. My employer offers family
> health insurance, but thats still 300 a month!!! I have to have it
> too for my sons medical expenses. I PAY the co-pays on everything also
> and I meet the deductable each year).
>
> The courts ordered him to pay an additional $100.00 on his arrears, he
> calls CSE and complains that he cant afford it. They reduce the
> amount to a dollar!!!! He is 15,000 behind in arrears, and no our
> state doesnt charge interest on the arrears.
>
> His original support order was made when he was making about $20,000.
> I have NOT asked for it to be raised ( which would move it up to
> almost 900 a month). On top of all this one of his children is
> disabled and he doesn't help with anything.
>
> He has visiation rights and doesn't even bother to see his children.
> HE DOESNT, I have nothing to do with this part. I have in the past
> begged him to see his children and he refuses because of his sons
> problems. I also have make sure my children see at least pictures of
> him and we talk about him all the time. I NEVER talk bad about him to
> them. That is not right. I will not however make up excuses for him
> as to why he isnt involved. If they ask, I simply say "I dont know"
> or "thats his choice".
>
> I have worked my ASS OFF full-time, gone to school full-time, taken my
> son to all kinds of doctors and specialists and therapist every single
> week all to make sure my family is taken care of, im very active with
> my children's schools and their extra ciricular activites. He does
> nothing.
>
> So, I know that you all think i'm an evil bitch who just wants to get
> as much money out of my child's father as I can, but that is simply
> not the case.
>
> I do not however agree with a lot of things you guys post here and i'm
> willing to be attacked to voice my own opinon.
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:20:28 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >FFK ...
> >On the whole, most contributors here have stated their case. They are
> >divorced, going through a divorce, or have questions and are here
> >seeking answers.
> >
> >I went through a terrible divorce, but am now remarried to a wonderful
> >woman and have no CS probs now.
> >
> >What's your story? I have an idea you're a female, with (about) a
> >$15,000 arrearage owing to you and/or your child.
> >
> >Wanna comment on that?
> >
> >Give us some background on yourself.
> >
> >Maybe then we could understand your zeal. Otherwise, you're going to
> >seem like just a cranky troll.
> >
> >
> >nm
>
Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's name was?

[The Beast]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
>
> If I agree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
> If I disagree with something someone says here, the group attacks.
>
> My ex doesnt pay support. Last year he paid a total of $2,000 or
> 167.00 a month on average. He makes about $40,000 a year and then
> complains to the CSE office about how he cant afford to live and his
> support order is too high (he is ordered to pay about 6000 a year for
> two kids, thats 500 a month. He also doesnt have to pay any health
> insurance plan amounts as I pick up the tab. My employer offers family
> health insurance, but thats still 300 a month!!! I have to have it
> too for my sons medical expenses. I PAY the co-pays on everything also
> and I meet the deductable each year).
>
> The courts ordered him to pay an additional $100.00 on his arrears, he
> calls CSE and complains that he cant afford it. They reduce the
> amount to a dollar!!!! He is 15,000 behind in arrears, and no our
> state doesnt charge interest on the arrears.
>
> His original support order was made when he was making about $20,000.
> I have NOT asked for it to be raised ( which would move it up to
> almost 900 a month). On top of all this one of his children is
> disabled and he doesn't help with anything.
>
> He has visiation rights and doesn't even bother to see his children.
> HE DOESNT, I have nothing to do with this part. I have in the past
> begged him to see his children and he refuses because of his sons
> problems. I also have make sure my children see at least pictures of
> him and we talk about him all the time. I NEVER talk bad about him to
> them. That is not right. I will not however make up excuses for him
> as to why he isnt involved. If they ask, I simply say "I dont know"
> or "thats his choice".
>
> I have worked my ASS OFF full-time, gone to school full-time, taken my
> son to all kinds of doctors and specialists and therapist every single
> week all to make sure my family is taken care of, im very active with
> my children's schools and their extra ciricular activites. He does
> nothing.
>
> So, I know that you all think i'm an evil bitch who just wants to get
> as much money out of my child's father as I can, but that is simply
> not the case.
>
> I do not however agree with a lot of things you guys post here and i'm
> willing to be attacked to voice my own opinon.
>
>
> On Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:20:28 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >FFK ...
> >On the whole, most contributors here have stated their case. They are
> >divorced, going through a divorce, or have questions and are here
> >seeking answers.
> >
> >I went through a terrible divorce, but am now remarried to a wonderful
> >woman and have no CS probs now.
> >
> >What's your story? I have an idea you're a female, with (about) a
> >$15,000 arrearage owing to you and/or your child.
> >
> >Wanna comment on that?
> >
> >Give us some background on yourself.
> >
> >Maybe then we could understand your zeal. Otherwise, you're going to
> >seem like just a cranky troll.
> >
> >
> >nm
>
Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's name was?

[The Dave©]

> The Beast wrote:
> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> name was?

No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.

[The Dave©]

> The Beast wrote:
> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> name was?

No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.

[AZ Astrea]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
>
> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
> >
> >nm
>
------------------
"I provide for my children and they get their needs met." And with almost
no cs?? How could that be possible? Since cs is supposedly for the
children and your'e getting so little surely you aren't able to raise your
children without it.

~AZ~

[AZ Astrea]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
>
> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
> >
> >nm
>
------------------
"I provide for my children and they get their needs met." And with almost
no cs?? How could that be possible? Since cs is supposedly for the
children and your'e getting so little surely you aren't able to raise your
children without it.

~AZ~

[TeacherMama]

How old are your children, FFK? Is your disabled son's school working
with you to make sure he gets the services he needs? Does he have an
IEP? There are many laws in place dealing with the education of
children with disabilities--hopefully, you are getting the services
you need through these programs.


Fighting For Kids > wrote in message >...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >FFK ...
> >I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>
> Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
> views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
> because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
> evil person.
>
> >
> >I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
> >end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
> >be ****ed too, if I were you.
>
> Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.
>
> >
> >Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
> >cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
> >Court in his pocket?
>
> Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
> knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
> other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
> things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
> screwed up, bad for both sides.
>
>
> >
> >FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
> >can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
> >anywhere.
>
> No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.
>
> >
> >If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
> >isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
> >anything, At All.
>
> Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
> nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
> no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
> charges but his "friends" hide him.
> >
> >I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
> >is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
> >year income. That's two kid's, right?
>
> Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
> insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
> expensive.
>
> >
> >You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
> >particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>
> They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
> it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
> half.
>
> >
> >I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
> >what's fair.
> >$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
> >You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>
> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
> >
> >nm

[TeacherMama]

How old are your children, FFK? Is your disabled son's school working
with you to make sure he gets the services he needs? Does he have an
IEP? There are many laws in place dealing with the education of
children with disabilities--hopefully, you are getting the services
you need through these programs.


Fighting For Kids > wrote in message >...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >FFK ...
> >I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>
> Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
> views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
> because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
> evil person.
>
> >
> >I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
> >end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
> >be ****ed too, if I were you.
>
> Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.
>
> >
> >Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
> >cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
> >Court in his pocket?
>
> Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
> knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
> other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
> things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
> screwed up, bad for both sides.
>
>
> >
> >FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
> >can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
> >anywhere.
>
> No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.
>
> >
> >If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
> >isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
> >anything, At All.
>
> Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
> nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
> no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
> charges but his "friends" hide him.
> >
> >I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
> >is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
> >year income. That's two kid's, right?
>
> Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
> insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
> expensive.
>
> >
> >You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
> >particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>
> They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
> it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
> half.
>
> >
> >I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
> >what's fair.
> >$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
> >You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>
> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
> >
> >nm

[Fighting For Kids]

I talk to alot of other parents here that have moved from other states
and every single one says that the services here stink.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:48:16 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>FFK ...
>You said you had to leave your job for a while to take care of your
>child. The state you're in must be totally behind the rest of the
>country in taking care of it's disabled kids if you received no help, or
>were offered no help with that child.

I had too much money saved up. Plus my house was "over the average
market value" so it counted against me. I owned two cars, one from
when I was in high school that I never got rid of and my "kid mobile".
They used the high school cars value against me, and that really sent
the asset level over their stupid 2000 limit.
>
>Have you checked with neighboring states, or another state? Maybe moving
>to a state that took care of it's kids would be better than where you're
>at now.
>You sure as hell couldn't be much worse off when it comes to the CS, and
>maybe another state wouldn't be so 'tolerant'.

Im actually looking at moving, just dont know where to go especially
with the economy the way it is.
>
>
>I just can't believe their total indifference to your/a special needs
>child.
>Maybe 'cause it's not that way here.

There are some states that are just behind others. They dont see a
huge population of special needs children so they cut programs. Leave
the rest to the families.
>
>
>nm

[Fighting For Kids]

I talk to alot of other parents here that have moved from other states
and every single one says that the services here stink.

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 16:48:16 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>FFK ...
>You said you had to leave your job for a while to take care of your
>child. The state you're in must be totally behind the rest of the
>country in taking care of it's disabled kids if you received no help, or
>were offered no help with that child.

I had too much money saved up. Plus my house was "over the average
market value" so it counted against me. I owned two cars, one from
when I was in high school that I never got rid of and my "kid mobile".
They used the high school cars value against me, and that really sent
the asset level over their stupid 2000 limit.
>
>Have you checked with neighboring states, or another state? Maybe moving
>to a state that took care of it's kids would be better than where you're
>at now.
>You sure as hell couldn't be much worse off when it comes to the CS, and
>maybe another state wouldn't be so 'tolerant'.

Im actually looking at moving, just dont know where to go especially
with the economy the way it is.
>
>
>I just can't believe their total indifference to your/a special needs
>child.
>Maybe 'cause it's not that way here.

There are some states that are just behind others. They dont see a
huge population of special needs children so they cut programs. Leave
the rest to the families.
>
>
>nm

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:

>> The Beast wrote:
>> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
>> name was?
>
>No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
>Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.

Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:

>> The Beast wrote:
>> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
>> name was?
>
>No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
>Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.

Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:28:07 -0700, "AZ Astrea" >
wrote:

>
>"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>>
>>
>> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
>> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
>> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
>> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
>> >
>> >nm
>>
>------------------
>"I provide for my children and they get their needs met." And with almost
>no cs?? How could that be possible? Since cs is supposedly for the
>children and your'e getting so little surely you aren't able to raise your
>children without it.
>
>~AZ~

I didnt say without CS CP's couldnt raise their child. I said that
NCP's should pay their fair share of the expenses.

Just because I have a good education and job doesnt mean the NCP is
off the hook. He and I were married and decided to have two children,
he should at least provide something.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 17:28:07 -0700, "AZ Astrea" >
wrote:

>
>"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>>
>>
>> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
>> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
>> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
>> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
>> >
>> >nm
>>
>------------------
>"I provide for my children and they get their needs met." And with almost
>no cs?? How could that be possible? Since cs is supposedly for the
>children and your'e getting so little surely you aren't able to raise your
>children without it.
>
>~AZ~

I didnt say without CS CP's couldnt raise their child. I said that
NCP's should pay their fair share of the expenses.

Just because I have a good education and job doesnt mean the NCP is
off the hook. He and I were married and decided to have two children,
he should at least provide something.

[Bob Whiteside]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
>
> >> The Beast wrote:
> >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> >> name was?
> >
> >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
> >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
>
> Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.

Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some sound
advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be honest,
and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.

[Bob Whiteside]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
>
> >> The Beast wrote:
> >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> >> name was?
> >
> >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
> >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
>
> Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.

Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some sound
advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be honest,
and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.

[Moon Shyne]

"Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
> >
> > >> The Beast wrote:
> > >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> > >> name was?
> > >
> > >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
> > >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
> >
> > Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> > nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.
>
> Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some sound
> advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be honest,
> and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.

Bull**** - disclose some of your personal situation, and this newsgroup insists
that you're a liar - you remember, Bob, when you insisted that there was no
domestic violence in my marriage/divorce? Funny, but the public records on the
court website disagree with you on that one.

>
>

[Moon Shyne]

"Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
nk.net...
>
> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
> >
> > >> The Beast wrote:
> > >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> > >> name was?
> > >
> > >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is semi-articulate.
> > >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
> >
> > Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> > nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.
>
> Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some sound
> advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be honest,
> and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.

Bull**** - disclose some of your personal situation, and this newsgroup insists
that you're a liar - you remember, Bob, when you insisted that there was no
domestic violence in my marriage/divorce? Funny, but the public records on the
court website disagree with you on that one.

>
>

[Bob Whiteside]

"Moon Shyne" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> >
> > "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> The Beast wrote:
> > > >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> > > >> name was?
> > > >
> > > >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is
semi-articulate.
> > > >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
> > >
> > > Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> > > nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.
> >
> > Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some
sound
> > advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be
honest,
> > and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.
>
> Bull**** - disclose some of your personal situation, and this newsgroup
insists
> that you're a liar - you remember, Bob, when you insisted that there was
no
> domestic violence in my marriage/divorce? Funny, but the public records
on the
> court website disagree with you on that one.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Bob Whiteside]

"Moon Shyne" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
> nk.net...
> >
> > "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
> > >
> > > >> The Beast wrote:
> > > >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> > > >> name was?
> > > >
> > > >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is
semi-articulate.
> > > >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
> > >
> > > Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> > > nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.
> >
> > Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some
sound
> > advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be
honest,
> > and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.
>
> Bull**** - disclose some of your personal situation, and this newsgroup
insists
> that you're a liar - you remember, Bob, when you insisted that there was
no
> domestic violence in my marriage/divorce? Funny, but the public records
on the
> court website disagree with you on that one.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

[Moon Shyne]

"Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
.net...
>
> "Moon Shyne" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
> > nk.net...
> > >
> > > "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> The Beast wrote:
> > > > >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> > > > >> name was?
> > > > >
> > > > >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is
> semi-articulate.
> > > > >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
> > > >
> > > > Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> > > > nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.
> > >
> > > Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some
> sound
> > > advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be
> honest,
> > > and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.
> >
> > Bull**** - disclose some of your personal situation, and this newsgroup
> insists
> > that you're a liar - you remember, Bob, when you insisted that there was
> no
> > domestic violence in my marriage/divorce? Funny, but the public records
> on the
> > court website disagree with you on that one.
>
> I have no idea what you are talking about.

You apparently have a very short memory

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[Moon Shyne]

"Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
.net...
>
> "Moon Shyne" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Bob Whiteside" > wrote in message
> > nk.net...
> > >
> > > "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > > ...
> > > > On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 22:04:56 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >> The Beast wrote:
> > > > >> Does FFK remind anyone of "BrainDeadMom" or whatever that person's
> > > > >> name was?
> > > > >
> > > > >No, DeadBeatMom was far more shrill. At least FFK is
> semi-articulate.
> > > > >Until she gets caught in a corner, of course, then she gets juvenile.
> > > >
> > > > Like you guys dont? Everyone gets "juvenile" when someone hits a
> > > > nerve. Ive seen it multiple times here by VARIOUS people.
> > >
> > > Calm down a couple of notches and the posters here can give you some
> sound
> > > advice if you really want help. But you have to want assistance, be
> honest,
> > > and disclose some of your personal situation to get help.
> >
> > Bull**** - disclose some of your personal situation, and this newsgroup
> insists
> > that you're a liar - you remember, Bob, when you insisted that there was
> no
> > domestic violence in my marriage/divorce? Funny, but the public records
> on the
> > court website disagree with you on that one.
>
> I have no idea what you are talking about.

You apparently have a very short memory

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[Nadacomin]

>Subject: Who Is Fighting For Kids?

>From:
>Newsgroups: alt.child-support
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36

nytmove writes:

>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>first.

Her posts are a public service.
I would encourage every man in north America and Europe to read this newsgroup,
and, also, alt.support.divorce, to find out what he is going to face in dating,
marriage and divorce.
Parents should have thier teenage sons read this group.
Women, who have sons, and, are playing the divorce/remarriage game, should read
this group to find out what awaits thier sons, and, think about that.

[Nadacomin]

>Subject: Who Is Fighting For Kids?

>From:
>Newsgroups: alt.child-support
>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36

nytmove writes:

>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>first.

Her posts are a public service.
I would encourage every man in north America and Europe to read this newsgroup,
and, also, alt.support.divorce, to find out what he is going to face in dating,
marriage and divorce.
Parents should have thier teenage sons read this group.
Women, who have sons, and, are playing the divorce/remarriage game, should read
this group to find out what awaits thier sons, and, think about that.

[Fighting For Kids]

On 16 Nov 2003 20:55:43 GMT, (Nadacomin) wrote:

>>Subject: Who Is Fighting For Kids?
>
>>From:
>>Newsgroups: alt.child-support
>>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36
>
>nytmove writes:
>
>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>>first.
>
>Her posts are a public service.
>I would encourage every man in north America and Europe to read this newsgroup,
>and, also, alt.support.divorce, to find out what he is going to face in dating,
>marriage and divorce.
>Parents should have thier teenage sons read this group.
>Women, who have sons, and, are playing the divorce/remarriage game, should read
>this group to find out what awaits thier sons, and, think about that.


I would encourage every woman in NA and Europe to read this
newsgropup, to find out what she is going to face in dating, marriage
and divorce.

Parents should ahve their teenage daughters read this group to see
what happens after divorce. Men are more concerned with the money in
thier banks than providing support for their children.

Men ,who have daughters, and are playing the divorce/remarriage game
should read this group to find out what awaits their daughters and
think about that.

[Fighting For Kids]

On 16 Nov 2003 20:55:43 GMT, (Nadacomin) wrote:

>>Subject: Who Is Fighting For Kids?
>
>>From:
>>Newsgroups: alt.child-support
>>Date: Mon, 10 Nov 2003 11:22:36
>
>nytmove writes:
>
>>My guess is FFK is a gal whose ex is 15k in the bucket on his CS, and
>>has an axe to grind with any man who gets a dime behind in his CS.
>>If I were her ex, she wouldn't get a dime.
>>Probably is a lousy mother, and was even a worse wife. I'd sit in jail
>>first.
>
>Her posts are a public service.
>I would encourage every man in north America and Europe to read this newsgroup,
>and, also, alt.support.divorce, to find out what he is going to face in dating,
>marriage and divorce.
>Parents should have thier teenage sons read this group.
>Women, who have sons, and, are playing the divorce/remarriage game, should read
>this group to find out what awaits thier sons, and, think about that.


I would encourage every woman in NA and Europe to read this
newsgropup, to find out what she is going to face in dating, marriage
and divorce.

Parents should ahve their teenage daughters read this group to see
what happens after divorce. Men are more concerned with the money in
thier banks than providing support for their children.

Men ,who have daughters, and are playing the divorce/remarriage game
should read this group to find out what awaits their daughters and
think about that.

[[email protected]]

Nadacomin ...

Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.

This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
without a whole lotta help from her ex.
She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
and a cold one costs.

With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
That would kinda make you a bit testy.
I know I would be.

nm

[[email protected]]

Nadacomin ...

Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.

This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
without a whole lotta help from her ex.
She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
and a cold one costs.

With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
That would kinda make you a bit testy.
I know I would be.

nm

[Fighting For Kids]

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:05 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>Nadacomin ...
>
>Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.
>
>This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
>opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
>without a whole lotta help from her ex.
>She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
>her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
>from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
>and a cold one costs.
>
>With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
>for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
>That would kinda make you a bit testy.
>I know I would be.
>
>nm

Testy? Slightly.

I guess I see things from a different view, like you all here do.

Everything we discuss revolves around money and its disgusting.

Children deserve to be supported.

If your kids are happy, have clothes, are fed, have toys, a good
education (ha, which doesnt exsist in this country thats for sure) who
cares about those nickles and dimes. I spend TONS of money on my
children and I go without lots of things I wish I could have. If I
want to buy them a toy at the store, well I buy one. If that comes
out of the NCP's support well tough ****. The NCP should be really
happy their child is happy!!!

Instead there is fighting over, who has this and who has that and
where did the money come from to buy your new car, and why should she
get this money when I cant do that. Its old, petty and selfish.

Just support your kids, its only money you cant take it with you when
you die. This world revolves around money being a measure of sucess,
its the measure of how we feel about ourselves. Its wrong.

People can say they really care and they dont. People can be very
jealous and spiteful. People LIE, and their are two sides (possibly
even more if more people are involved) to every single story.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:05 -0500 (EST), wrote:

>Nadacomin ...
>
>Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.
>
>This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
>opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
>without a whole lotta help from her ex.
>She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
>her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
>from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
>and a cold one costs.
>
>With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
>for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
>That would kinda make you a bit testy.
>I know I would be.
>
>nm

Testy? Slightly.

I guess I see things from a different view, like you all here do.

Everything we discuss revolves around money and its disgusting.

Children deserve to be supported.

If your kids are happy, have clothes, are fed, have toys, a good
education (ha, which doesnt exsist in this country thats for sure) who
cares about those nickles and dimes. I spend TONS of money on my
children and I go without lots of things I wish I could have. If I
want to buy them a toy at the store, well I buy one. If that comes
out of the NCP's support well tough ****. The NCP should be really
happy their child is happy!!!

Instead there is fighting over, who has this and who has that and
where did the money come from to buy your new car, and why should she
get this money when I cant do that. Its old, petty and selfish.

Just support your kids, its only money you cant take it with you when
you die. This world revolves around money being a measure of sucess,
its the measure of how we feel about ourselves. Its wrong.

People can say they really care and they dont. People can be very
jealous and spiteful. People LIE, and their are two sides (possibly
even more if more people are involved) to every single story.

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
>
>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:05 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
>>Nadacomin ...
>>
>>Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.
>>
>>This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
>>opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
>>without a whole lotta help from her ex.
>>She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
>>her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
>>from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
>>and a cold one costs.
>>
>>With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
>>for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
>>That would kinda make you a bit testy.
>>I know I would be.
>>
>>nm
>
>Testy? Slightly.
====
Agreed that "testy" is an understatement. To nytmove: Having a special needs
child is no excuse for incivility. All of us have struggles to overcome. Being
civil in the face of those struggles builds character and sets a good example
for our children. Lashing out like an idiot undermines credibility, hurts
children and leads to self-destruction.
====
>
>I guess I see things from a different view, like you all here do.
>
>Everything we discuss revolves around money and its disgusting.
===
And yet your ex's lack of sufficient support is the seat of your anger.
===
===

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
>
>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:05 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
>>Nadacomin ...
>>
>>Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.
>>
>>This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
>>opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
>>without a whole lotta help from her ex.
>>She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
>>her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
>>from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
>>and a cold one costs.
>>
>>With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
>>for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
>>That would kinda make you a bit testy.
>>I know I would be.
>>
>>nm
>
>Testy? Slightly.
====
Agreed that "testy" is an understatement. To nytmove: Having a special needs
child is no excuse for incivility. All of us have struggles to overcome. Being
civil in the face of those struggles builds character and sets a good example
for our children. Lashing out like an idiot undermines credibility, hurts
children and leads to self-destruction.
====
>
>I guess I see things from a different view, like you all here do.
>
>Everything we discuss revolves around money and its disgusting.
===
And yet your ex's lack of sufficient support is the seat of your anger.
===
===

[Fighting For Kids]

On 17 Nov 2003 05:46:08 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article >, Fighting For Kids
>says...
>>
>>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:05 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>>
>>>Nadacomin ...
>>>
>>>Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.
>>>
>>>This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
>>>opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
>>>without a whole lotta help from her ex.
>>>She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
>>>her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
>>>from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
>>>and a cold one costs.
>>>
>>>With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
>>>for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
>>>That would kinda make you a bit testy.
>>>I know I would be.
>>>
>>>nm
>>
>>Testy? Slightly.
>====
>Agreed that "testy" is an understatement. To nytmove: Having a special needs
>child is no excuse for incivility. All of us have struggles to overcome. Being
>civil in the face of those struggles builds character and sets a good example
>for our children. Lashing out like an idiot undermines credibility, hurts
>children and leads to self-destruction.

Right back at you. You've gotten pretty "testy" yourself.
>====
>>
>>I guess I see things from a different view, like you all here do.
>>
>>Everything we discuss revolves around money and its disgusting.
>===
>And yet your ex's lack of sufficient support is the seat of your anger.
>===
>===
Not entirely. I provide for my children. Im more upset that he
doesnt care enough about his kids to do anything with them.

[Fighting For Kids]

On 17 Nov 2003 05:46:08 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article >, Fighting For Kids
>says...
>>
>>On Sun, 16 Nov 2003 18:05:05 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>>
>>>Nadacomin ...
>>>
>>>Lets not be too hasty here. I might have been.
>>>
>>>This gal (FFK) has a disabled child to care for. She works, and as
>>>opposed to what I first said, she seems to be taking care of business
>>>without a whole lotta help from her ex.
>>>She gets no help from the system, and doesn't seem to be trying to bleed
>>>her ex. She just wants a bit more than the cheesy $2k a year she gets
>>>from him now. That's not even $5.50 a day. About what a pack of smokes
>>>and a cold one costs.
>>>
>>>With the pressures a disabled child puts on 2 parents, it's even tougher
>>>for just one, plus there's another child in the mix.
>>>That would kinda make you a bit testy.
>>>I know I would be.
>>>
>>>nm
>>
>>Testy? Slightly.
>====
>Agreed that "testy" is an understatement. To nytmove: Having a special needs
>child is no excuse for incivility. All of us have struggles to overcome. Being
>civil in the face of those struggles builds character and sets a good example
>for our children. Lashing out like an idiot undermines credibility, hurts
>children and leads to self-destruction.

Right back at you. You've gotten pretty "testy" yourself.
>====
>>
>>I guess I see things from a different view, like you all here do.
>>
>>Everything we discuss revolves around money and its disgusting.
>===
>And yet your ex's lack of sufficient support is the seat of your anger.
>===
>===
Not entirely. I provide for my children. Im more upset that he
doesnt care enough about his kids to do anything with them.

[Kenneth S.]

What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
apostrophes when they are required.


Fighting For Kids wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >FFK ...
> >I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>
> Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
> views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
> because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
> evil person.
>
> >
> >I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
> >end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
> >be ****ed too, if I were you.
>
> Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.
>
> >
> >Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
> >cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
> >Court in his pocket?
>
> Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
> knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
> other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
> things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
> screwed up, bad for both sides.
>
> >
> >FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
> >can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
> >anywhere.
>
> No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.
>
> >
> >If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
> >isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
> >anything, At All.
>
> Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
> nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
> no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
> charges but his "friends" hide him.
> >
> >I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
> >is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
> >year income. That's two kid's, right?
>
> Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
> insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
> expensive.
>
> >
> >You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
> >particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>
> They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
> it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
> half.
>
> >
> >I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
> >what's fair.
> >$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
> >You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>
> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
> >
> >nm

[Kenneth S.]

What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
apostrophes when they are required.


Fighting For Kids wrote:
>
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>
> >FFK ...
> >I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>
> Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
> views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
> because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
> evil person.
>
> >
> >I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
> >end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
> >be ****ed too, if I were you.
>
> Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.
>
> >
> >Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
> >cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
> >Court in his pocket?
>
> Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
> knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
> other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
> things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
> screwed up, bad for both sides.
>
> >
> >FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
> >can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
> >anywhere.
>
> No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.
>
> >
> >If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
> >isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
> >anything, At All.
>
> Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
> nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
> no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
> charges but his "friends" hide him.
> >
> >I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
> >is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
> >year income. That's two kid's, right?
>
> Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
> insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
> expensive.
>
> >
> >You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
> >particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>
> They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
> it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
> half.
>
> >
> >I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
> >what's fair.
> >$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
> >You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>
> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
> >
> >nm

[Fighting For Kids]

Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
worth the effort.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:27:55 -0500, "Kenneth S." >
wrote:

>What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
>apostrophes when they are required.
>
>
>Fighting For Kids wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>>
>> >FFK ...
>> >I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>>
>> Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
>> views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
>> because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
>> evil person.
>>
>> >
>> >I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
>> >end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
>> >be ****ed too, if I were you.
>>
>> Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.
>>
>> >
>> >Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
>> >cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
>> >Court in his pocket?
>>
>> Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
>> knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
>> other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
>> things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
>> screwed up, bad for both sides.
>>
>> >
>> >FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
>> >can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
>> >anywhere.
>>
>> No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.
>>
>> >
>> >If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
>> >isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
>> >anything, At All.
>>
>> Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
>> nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
>> no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
>> charges but his "friends" hide him.
>> >
>> >I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
>> >is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
>> >year income. That's two kid's, right?
>>
>> Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
>> insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
>> expensive.
>>
>> >
>> >You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
>> >particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>>
>> They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
>> it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
>> half.
>>
>> >
>> >I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
>> >what's fair.
>> >$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
>> >You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>>
>> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
>> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
>> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
>> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
>> >
>> >nm

[Fighting For Kids]

Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
worth the effort.

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 09:27:55 -0500, "Kenneth S." >
wrote:

>What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
>apostrophes when they are required.
>
>
>Fighting For Kids wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003 02:36:53 -0500 (EST), wrote:
>>
>> >FFK ...
>> >I can (now) see why you are so bitter.
>>
>> Im not bitter about Child Support. I dont agree with some of the
>> views here and as an American I can voice my disagreement. Just
>> because I dont agree with a comment someone makes doesnt mean im a bad
>> evil person.
>>
>> >
>> >I doubt very seriously anyone would dispute you have gotten the short
>> >end of the stick. With your ex only paying 5% of his income for CS, I'd
>> >be ****ed too, if I were you.
>>
>> Oh im sure there will be. Paul just did.
>>
>> >
>> >Just what kind of pull does this joker have that he can get away so
>> >cheap? Is he bribing somebody, or does he have someone at Friend of the
>> >Court in his pocket?
>>
>> Ive pretty much come to the conclusion that someone at social services
>> knows him. He just gets away with too much. However, when I talk to
>> other mothers and fathers who deal with CSE I hear very similar
>> things. Their offices dont work. I think the entire system is
>> screwed up, bad for both sides.
>>
>> >
>> >FFK, I'm gonna assume you're in Mi. (due to that Cox thread) If you
>> >can't get your CS straighten out here, you ain't gonna get it staight
>> >anywhere.
>>
>> No, just thought it was interesting. Im not in MI.
>>
>> >
>> >If you're in Wayne, Macolmb, and particularly Oakland county, if your CS
>> >isn't right, YOU are doing something awfully wrong, or you're not doing
>> >anything, At All.
>>
>> Ive filed my own contempt charges because the CSE office has done
>> nothing. The judge gave him another chance. Then he disappeared and
>> no one can ever find him. Ive tried to file additional contempt
>> charges but his "friends" hide him.
>> >
>> >I know, just as well as you should, no matter what his present situation
>> >is, he owes you (like) $600-$800 a month or so easily, based on a 40k a
>> >year income. That's two kid's, right?
>>
>> Two children, yes. One has a disability and I pay everything my
>> insurance doesnt cover out of my own pocket and trust me its
>> expensive.
>>
>> >
>> >You can't say 'they' look at your income, 'cause in most states,
>> >particularly Mi., that counts for little, if anything.
>>
>> They did look at mine. As a matter of fact since I make more than him
>> it comes out that he pays less than if he made more than me by almost
>> half.
>>
>> >
>> >I don't say you should try to 'bleed' the guy, but for krys sake, get
>> >what's fair.
>> >$2k a year ain't ****. Double that is only 10% of his income.
>> >You know what you gotta do. Do it.
>>
>> Im tired of fighting with the system. When I fought I got the same
>> amount that I get know. Its just not worth the effort anymore. I
>> provide for my children and they get their needs met. It would be
>> nice for him to "chip" in but I dont think that will ever happen.
>> >
>> >nm

[Gini]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> worth the effort.
====
You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
punch an apostrophe key?
That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
====
====

[Gini]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> worth the effort.
====
You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
punch an apostrophe key?
That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
====
====

[Gini]

"Kenneth S." > wrote in message
...
> What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
> apostrophes when they are required.
===
Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
===

[Gini]

"Kenneth S." > wrote in message
...
> What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
> apostrophes when they are required.
===
Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
===

[The Dave©]

> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> worth the effort.

Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.

[The Dave©]

> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> worth the effort.

Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.

[Tiffany]

Gini > wrote in message
...
>
> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> > worth the effort.
> ====
> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
to
> punch an apostrophe key?
> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> ====
> ====
>
>

Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort would
be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.

T

[Tiffany]

Gini > wrote in message
...
>
> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> > worth the effort.
> ====
> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
to
> punch an apostrophe key?
> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> ====
> ====
>
>

Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort would
be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.

T

[Kenneth S.]

The Dave© wrote:
>
> > Fighting For Kids wrote:
> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> > worth the effort.
>
> Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
> self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.

She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking about.

[Kenneth S.]

The Dave© wrote:
>
> > Fighting For Kids wrote:
> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> > worth the effort.
>
> Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
> self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.

She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking about.

[Kenneth S.]

Gini wrote:
>
> "Kenneth S." > wrote in message
> ...
> > What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
> > apostrophes when they are required.
> ===
> Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
> clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
> ===

I'm very glad to hear that people are being given prison sentences for
bad punctuation.

It's about time that incorrect punctuation and spelling was properly
penalized. Alas, however, the voluminous contributions from Fighting
for Bucks seem to prove that she at least learned nothing while
incarcerated.

[Kenneth S.]

Gini wrote:
>
> "Kenneth S." > wrote in message
> ...
> > What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
> > apostrophes when they are required.
> ===
> Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
> clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
> ===

I'm very glad to hear that people are being given prison sentences for
bad punctuation.

It's about time that incorrect punctuation and spelling was properly
penalized. Alas, however, the voluminous contributions from Fighting
for Bucks seem to prove that she at least learned nothing while
incarcerated.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:

>
>"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
>> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> worth the effort.
>====
>You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
>punch an apostrophe key?
>That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>====
>====
>
25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
yourself again.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:

>
>"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
>> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> worth the effort.
>====
>You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
>punch an apostrophe key?
>That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>====
>====
>
25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
yourself again.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Gini > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> > worth the effort.
>> ====
>> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
>to
>> punch an apostrophe key?
>> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> ====
>> ====
>>
>>
>
>Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort would
>be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
>
>T

You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
minutes a week posting here.

What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.

>

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Gini > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> > worth the effort.
>> ====
>> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
>to
>> punch an apostrophe key?
>> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> ====
>> ====
>>
>>
>
>Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort would
>be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
>
>T

You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
minutes a week posting here.

What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.

>

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:29:06 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:

>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> worth the effort.
>
>Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.

So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing because
you use apostrophes?

Hmm.. thats interesting.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 19:29:06 GMT, "The Dave©" > wrote:

>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> worth the effort.
>
>Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.

So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing because
you use apostrophes?

Hmm.. thats interesting.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:49:19 -0500, "Kenneth S." >
wrote:

>The Dave© wrote:
>>
>> > Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> > worth the effort.
>>
>> Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>> self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>
> She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
>contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
>thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking about.

here we go again... they hit here because they know they are wrong
about the things they post. So they try and attack.. attack anything
they can.

Its rather funny.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:49:19 -0500, "Kenneth S." >
wrote:

>The Dave© wrote:
>>
>> > Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> > worth the effort.
>>
>> Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>> self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>
> She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
>contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
>thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking about.

here we go again... they hit here because they know they are wrong
about the things they post. So they try and attack.. attack anything
they can.

Its rather funny.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:00:11 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:

>
>"Kenneth S." > wrote in message
...
>> What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
>> apostrophes when they are required.
>===
>Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
>clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
>===
>


Ok, here we go with Gini the self proclaimed attorney.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 14:00:11 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:

>
>"Kenneth S." > wrote in message
...
>> What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
>> apostrophes when they are required.
>===
>Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
>clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
>===
>


Ok, here we go with Gini the self proclaimed attorney.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:54:52 -0500, "Kenneth S." >
wrote:

>Gini wrote:
>>
>> "Kenneth S." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
>> > apostrophes when they are required.
>> ===
>> Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
>> clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
>> ===
>
> I'm very glad to hear that people are being given prison sentences for
>bad punctuation.
>
> It's about time that incorrect punctuation and spelling was properly
>penalized. Alas, however, the voluminous contributions from Fighting
>for Bucks seem to prove that she at least learned nothing while
>incarcerated.

How could I ever learn anything from a bunch of fools like you?

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 06:54:52 -0500, "Kenneth S." >
wrote:

>Gini wrote:
>>
>> "Kenneth S." > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > What makes you a bad evil person, Fighting, is your failure to use
>> > apostrophes when they are required.
>> ===
>> Agreed. I can't believe they released her from the halfway house when she
>> clearly wasn't prepared for punctuation.
>> ===
>
> I'm very glad to hear that people are being given prison sentences for
>bad punctuation.
>
> It's about time that incorrect punctuation and spelling was properly
>penalized. Alas, however, the voluminous contributions from Fighting
>for Bucks seem to prove that she at least learned nothing while
>incarcerated.

How could I ever learn anything from a bunch of fools like you?

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Gini > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> > worth the effort.
> >> ====
> >> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> punch an apostrophe key?
> >> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> ====
> >> ====
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort
would
> >be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
> >
> >T
>
> You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
> to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
> minutes a week posting here.
>
> What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.
>
> >
>

lol... 25 minutes. Sure.

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Gini > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> > worth the effort.
> >> ====
> >> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> punch an apostrophe key?
> >> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> ====
> >> ====
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort
would
> >be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
> >
> >T
>
> You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
> to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
> minutes a week posting here.
>
> What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.
>
> >
>

lol... 25 minutes. Sure.

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >====
> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
to
> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >====
> >====
> >
> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> yourself again.

You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time that
one week in one night of stupid posting?

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >====
> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
to
> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >====
> >====
> >
> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> yourself again.

You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time that
one week in one night of stupid posting?

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Gini > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> > worth the effort.
> >> ====
> >> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> punch an apostrophe key?
> >> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> ====
> >> ====
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort
would
> >be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
> >
> >T
>
> You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
> to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
> minutes a week posting here.
>
> What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.
>
> >
>

My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off comments
without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here to
listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on dealing
with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.

Good luck.

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Gini > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> > worth the effort.
> >> ====
> >> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> punch an apostrophe key?
> >> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> ====
> >> ====
> >>
> >>
> >
> >Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort
would
> >be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
> >
> >T
>
> You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
> to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
> minutes a week posting here.
>
> What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.
>
> >
>

My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off comments
without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here to
listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on dealing
with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.

Good luck.

[The Dave©]

> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
> not >> worth the effort.
> >
> >Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
> >self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>
> So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing because
> you use apostrophes?
>
> Hmm.. thats interesting.

Ahhhh, the memories of junior high school, and the dumbass and inane
comebacks when a person has no real point.

[The Dave©]

> Kenneth S. wrote:
> She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
> contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
> thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking
> about.

According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend especially
of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that she
considers me a close friend.

[The Dave©]

> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
> not >> worth the effort.
> >
> >Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
> >self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>
> So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing because
> you use apostrophes?
>
> Hmm.. thats interesting.

Ahhhh, the memories of junior high school, and the dumbass and inane
comebacks when a person has no real point.

[The Dave©]

> Kenneth S. wrote:
> She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
> contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
> thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking
> about.

According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend especially
of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that she
considers me a close friend.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:52:09 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Gini > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> >> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
>not
>> >> > worth the effort.
>> >> ====
>> >> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
>effort
>> >to
>> >> punch an apostrophe key?
>> >> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> >> ====
>> >> ====
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort
>would
>> >be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
>> >
>> >T
>>
>> You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
>> to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
>> minutes a week posting here.
>>
>> What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.
>>
>> >
>>
>
>lol... 25 minutes. Sure.
>

That's it. I bet you spend far more time posting than I do.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:52:09 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 16:44:49 -0500, "Tiffany"
>> > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >Gini > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >>
>> >> "Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> >> ...
>> >> > Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
>not
>> >> > worth the effort.
>> >> ====
>> >> You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
>effort
>> >to
>> >> punch an apostrophe key?
>> >> That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> >> ====
>> >> ====
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>> >Interesting too for someone with the disabled child. Seems her effort
>would
>> >be better spent on the child instead of talking nonsense here.
>> >
>> >T
>>
>> You dont know how much effort I put into my child. Do I not deserve
>> to have my own time do with as I please. Trust me I spend maybe 25
>> minutes a week posting here.
>>
>> What does your efforts go towards? Apparently not much.
>>
>> >
>>
>
>lol... 25 minutes. Sure.
>

That's it. I bet you spend far more time posting than I do.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:02:50 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:


>
>My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off comments
>without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here to
>listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on dealing
>with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
>change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
>reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
>the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
>some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.
>
>Good luck.
>
Why dont you read what you said and practice what you preach.

Stir up others? No I think you are mistaken. I came here just like
you and made one post and was attacked by the cronies in the group
because I didnt beleive the same things as they did. Iwas called
names and was stupid and blind beacuse I didnt go along with them,
like you are.

I dont need your approval for anything.

As far as my children are concerned, I dont take anything out on my
children. You are scum bag for even suggesting such crap.

You however, im sure YOU bad mouth the mother of the children who are
a part of your life.

I dont make sense? The only posts I make are after someone personally
attacks me and my children.

You have your head shoved so far up your ass you will never get it
out.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:02:50 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:


>
>My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off comments
>without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here to
>listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on dealing
>with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
>change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
>reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
>the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
>some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.
>
>Good luck.
>
Why dont you read what you said and practice what you preach.

Stir up others? No I think you are mistaken. I came here just like
you and made one post and was attacked by the cronies in the group
because I didnt beleive the same things as they did. Iwas called
names and was stupid and blind beacuse I didnt go along with them,
like you are.

I dont need your approval for anything.

As far as my children are concerned, I dont take anything out on my
children. You are scum bag for even suggesting such crap.

You however, im sure YOU bad mouth the mother of the children who are
a part of your life.

I dont make sense? The only posts I make are after someone personally
attacks me and my children.

You have your head shoved so far up your ass you will never get it
out.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:58:13 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:


>
>You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
>only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time that
>one week in one night of stupid posting?
>

It doesnt take much to make a post and if you type fast you can do it
even faster.

Im not sitting here hunting and pecking for the letters on the
keyboard like you obvously are.

Stupid posting? Most of my posts again are in rebuttle to someone
already attacking me and my children. Nice,huh. Go against the
groups beliefs and they attack your character even though they dont
know you.

Just like you did, speaks highly of your own character.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:58:13 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:


>
>You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
>only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time that
>one week in one night of stupid posting?
>

It doesnt take much to make a post and if you type fast you can do it
even faster.

Im not sitting here hunting and pecking for the letters on the
keyboard like you obvously are.

Stupid posting? Most of my posts again are in rebuttle to someone
already attacking me and my children. Nice,huh. Go against the
groups beliefs and they attack your character even though they dont
know you.

Just like you did, speaks highly of your own character.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> >> worth the effort.
>> >====
>> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
>to
>> >punch an apostrophe key?
>> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> >====
>> >====
>> >
>> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
>> yourself again.
>
>
>Nov 1 - 49 posts
>Nov 2 - 100 posts
>Nov 3 - 22 posts
>Nov 9 - 40 posts
>Nov 12 - 29 posts
>Nov 16 - 19 posts
>Nov 17 - 22 posts
>
>plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
>
>Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
>
>once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full of
>****.
>
>
November 2nds posts were those flame warriors that took about 10
minutes total for me to upload.

I dont sit here all day like you would like to think and post.
Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
connection that actually works.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
>> >> worth the effort.
>> >====
>> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
>to
>> >punch an apostrophe key?
>> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> >====
>> >====
>> >
>> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
>> yourself again.
>
>
>Nov 1 - 49 posts
>Nov 2 - 100 posts
>Nov 3 - 22 posts
>Nov 9 - 40 posts
>Nov 12 - 29 posts
>Nov 16 - 19 posts
>Nov 17 - 22 posts
>
>plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
>
>Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
>
>once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full of
>****.
>
>
November 2nds posts were those flame warriors that took about 10
minutes total for me to upload.

I dont sit here all day like you would like to think and post.
Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
connection that actually works.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
>not
>> > >> worth the effort.
>> > >====
>> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
>effort
>> to
>> > >punch an apostrophe key?
>> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> > >====
>> > >====
>> > >
>> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
>> > yourself again.
>>
>>
>> Nov 1 - 49 posts
>> Nov 2 - 100 posts
>> Nov 3 - 22 posts
>> Nov 9 - 40 posts
>> Nov 12 - 29 posts
>> Nov 16 - 19 posts
>> Nov 17 - 22 posts
>>
>> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
>>
>> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
>>
>> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
>of
>> ****.
>>
>
>Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30

Where are you even getting these stats at?
How about posting your own, and the others here?

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> wrote:

>
>"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>>
>> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
>> > ...
>> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
>not
>> > >> worth the effort.
>> > >====
>> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
>effort
>> to
>> > >punch an apostrophe key?
>> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
>> > >====
>> > >====
>> > >
>> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
>> > yourself again.
>>
>>
>> Nov 1 - 49 posts
>> Nov 2 - 100 posts
>> Nov 3 - 22 posts
>> Nov 9 - 40 posts
>> Nov 12 - 29 posts
>> Nov 16 - 19 posts
>> Nov 17 - 22 posts
>>
>> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
>>
>> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
>>
>> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
>of
>> ****.
>>
>
>Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30

Where are you even getting these stats at?
How about posting your own, and the others here?

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:10 GMT, The Dave© > wrote:

>> Kenneth S. wrote:
>> She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
>> contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
>> thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking
>> about.
>
>According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend especially
>of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that she
>considers me a close friend.

Pull your head out of your ass..

I said you and your cronies... you would never be considered a friend.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:10 GMT, The Dave© > wrote:

>> Kenneth S. wrote:
>> She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
>> contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
>> thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking
>> about.
>
>According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend especially
>of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that she
>considers me a close friend.

Pull your head out of your ass..

I said you and your cronies... you would never be considered a friend.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:10 GMT, The Dave© > wrote:

>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> >> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
>> not >> worth the effort.
>> >
>> >Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>> >self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>>
>> So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing because
>> you use apostrophes?
>>
>> Hmm.. thats interesting.
>
>Ahhhh, the memories of junior high school, and the dumbass and inane
>comebacks when a person has no real point.

Like the one you just made.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:10 GMT, The Dave© > wrote:

>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> >> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
>> not >> worth the effort.
>> >
>> >Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>> >self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>>
>> So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing because
>> you use apostrophes?
>>
>> Hmm.. thats interesting.
>
>Ahhhh, the memories of junior high school, and the dumbass and inane
>comebacks when a person has no real point.

Like the one you just made.

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:02:50 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >
> >My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off
comments
> >without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here
to
> >listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on
dealing
> >with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
> >change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
> >reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
> >the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
> >some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.
> >
> >Good luck.
> >
> Why dont you read what you said and practice what you preach.
>
> Stir up others? No I think you are mistaken. I came here just like
> you and made one post and was attacked by the cronies in the group
> because I didnt beleive the same things as they did. Iwas called
> names and was stupid and blind beacuse I didnt go along with them,
> like you are.
>
> I dont need your approval for anything.
>
> As far as my children are concerned, I dont take anything out on my
> children. You are scum bag for even suggesting such crap.
>
> You however, im sure YOU bad mouth the mother of the children who are
> a part of your life.
>
> I dont make sense? The only posts I make are after someone personally
> attacks me and my children.
>
> You have your head shoved so far up your ass you will never get it
> out.
>

I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it straight. So
first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say they
never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by ignoring
them or being snippy.

Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad mouthing
mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.

Third, when you post here, you really need to back up what you say. You came
here with all sorts of statistics but never once could you say where they
came from. You were asked over and over again. You lost any credibility or
respect.

T

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:02:50 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >
> >My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off
comments
> >without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here
to
> >listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on
dealing
> >with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
> >change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
> >reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
> >the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
> >some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.
> >
> >Good luck.
> >
> Why dont you read what you said and practice what you preach.
>
> Stir up others? No I think you are mistaken. I came here just like
> you and made one post and was attacked by the cronies in the group
> because I didnt beleive the same things as they did. Iwas called
> names and was stupid and blind beacuse I didnt go along with them,
> like you are.
>
> I dont need your approval for anything.
>
> As far as my children are concerned, I dont take anything out on my
> children. You are scum bag for even suggesting such crap.
>
> You however, im sure YOU bad mouth the mother of the children who are
> a part of your life.
>
> I dont make sense? The only posts I make are after someone personally
> attacks me and my children.
>
> You have your head shoved so far up your ass you will never get it
> out.
>

I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it straight. So
first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say they
never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by ignoring
them or being snippy.

Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad mouthing
mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.

Third, when you post here, you really need to back up what you say. You came
here with all sorts of statistics but never once could you say where they
came from. You were asked over and over again. You lost any credibility or
respect.

T

[Tiffany]

So all those posts on Nov 2 were a rebuttal? I don't think so.

And how the hell do you know about my typing skills? Again, get a grip. Stay
on point.

T
Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:58:13 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >
> >You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
> >only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time
that
> >one week in one night of stupid posting?
> >
>
> It doesnt take much to make a post and if you type fast you can do it
> even faster.
>
> Im not sitting here hunting and pecking for the letters on the
> keyboard like you obvously are.
>
> Stupid posting? Most of my posts again are in rebuttle to someone
> already attacking me and my children. Nice,huh. Go against the
> groups beliefs and they attack your character even though they dont
> know you.
>
> Just like you did, speaks highly of your own character.

[Tiffany]

So all those posts on Nov 2 were a rebuttal? I don't think so.

And how the hell do you know about my typing skills? Again, get a grip. Stay
on point.

T
Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:58:13 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
>
> >
> >You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
> >only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time
that
> >one week in one night of stupid posting?
> >
>
> It doesnt take much to make a post and if you type fast you can do it
> even faster.
>
> Im not sitting here hunting and pecking for the letters on the
> keyboard like you obvously are.
>
> Stupid posting? Most of my posts again are in rebuttle to someone
> already attacking me and my children. Nice,huh. Go against the
> groups beliefs and they attack your character even though they dont
> know you.
>
> Just like you did, speaks highly of your own character.

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> >> worth the effort.
> >> >====
> >> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> >====
> >> >====
> >> >
> >> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> >> yourself again.
> >
> >
> >Nov 1 - 49 posts
> >Nov 2 - 100 posts
> >Nov 3 - 22 posts
> >Nov 9 - 40 posts
> >Nov 12 - 29 posts
> >Nov 16 - 19 posts
> >Nov 17 - 22 posts
> >
> >plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> >
> >Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> >
> >once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
of
> >****.
> >
> >
> November 2nds posts were those flame warriors that took about 10
> minutes total for me to upload.
>
> I dont sit here all day like you would like to think and post.
> Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> connection that actually works.

Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of your
typing and internet connection. :)

T

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> >> worth the effort.
> >> >====
> >> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> >====
> >> >====
> >> >
> >> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> >> yourself again.
> >
> >
> >Nov 1 - 49 posts
> >Nov 2 - 100 posts
> >Nov 3 - 22 posts
> >Nov 9 - 40 posts
> >Nov 12 - 29 posts
> >Nov 16 - 19 posts
> >Nov 17 - 22 posts
> >
> >plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> >
> >Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> >
> >once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
of
> >****.
> >
> >
> November 2nds posts were those flame warriors that took about 10
> minutes total for me to upload.
>
> I dont sit here all day like you would like to think and post.
> Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> connection that actually works.

Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of your
typing and internet connection. :)

T

[The Dave©]

> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> Pull your head out of your ass..
>
> I said you and your cronies... you would never be considered a friend.

Read what you wrote again. Oh, and turn the "sarcasm detector" button
on.

[The Dave©]

> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> Pull your head out of your ass..
>
> I said you and your cronies... you would never be considered a friend.

Read what you wrote again. Oh, and turn the "sarcasm detector" button
on.

[Paul Fritz]

"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >====
> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
to
> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >====
> >====
> >
> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> yourself again.


Nov 1 - 49 posts
Nov 2 - 100 posts
Nov 3 - 22 posts
Nov 9 - 40 posts
Nov 12 - 29 posts
Nov 16 - 19 posts
Nov 17 - 22 posts

plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.

Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70

once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full of
****.

[Paul Fritz]

"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >====
> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort
to
> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >====
> >====
> >
> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> yourself again.


Nov 1 - 49 posts
Nov 2 - 100 posts
Nov 3 - 22 posts
Nov 9 - 40 posts
Nov 12 - 29 posts
Nov 16 - 19 posts
Nov 17 - 22 posts

plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.

Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70

once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full of
****.

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
.............................
>Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>connection that actually works.
===
Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth reading
through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
===
===

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
.............................
>Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>connection that actually works.
===
Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth reading
through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
===
===

[Paul Fritz]

"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> > >> worth the effort.
> > >====
> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> to
> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >====
> > >====
> > >
> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > yourself again.
>
>
> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> Nov 17 - 22 posts
>
> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
>
> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
>
> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
of
> ****.
>

Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30

>
>

[Paul Fritz]

"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> > >> worth the effort.
> > >====
> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> to
> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >====
> > >====
> > >
> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > yourself again.
>
>
> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> Nov 17 - 22 posts
>
> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
>
> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
>
> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
of
> ****.
>

Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30

>
>

[Bob Whiteside]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> ............................
> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >connection that actually works.
> ===
> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
reading
> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> ===
> ===

Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
exponentially

[Bob Whiteside]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> ............................
> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >connection that actually works.
> ===
> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
reading
> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> ===
> ===

Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
exponentially

[Gini52]

In article t>, Bob Whiteside
says...
>
>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>> says...
>> ............................
>> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>> >connection that actually works.
>> ===
>> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>reading
>> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>> ===
>> ===
>
>Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
>and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>exponentially
===
LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the plagiarized.
===
===

[Gini52]

In article t>, Bob Whiteside
says...
>
>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>> says...
>> ............................
>> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>> >connection that actually works.
>> ===
>> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>reading
>> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>> ===
>> ===
>
>Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
>and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>exponentially
===
LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the plagiarized.
===
===

[Paul Fritz]

Once again 'stealing for mommies" shows that reading comprehension is
definitely NOT one of her strong points

<snicker>

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> >> worth the effort.
> >> >====
> >> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> >====
> >> >====
> >> >
> >> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> >> yourself again.
> >
> >
> >Nov 1 - 49 posts
> >Nov 2 - 100 posts
> >Nov 3 - 22 posts
> >Nov 9 - 40 posts
> >Nov 12 - 29 posts
> >Nov 16 - 19 posts
> >Nov 17 - 22 posts
> >
> >plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> >
> >Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> >
> >once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
of
> >****.
> >
> >
> November 2nds posts were those flame warriors that took about 10
> minutes total for me to upload.
>
> I dont sit here all day like you would like to think and post.
> Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> connection that actually works.

[Paul Fritz]

Once again 'stealing for mommies" shows that reading comprehension is
definitely NOT one of her strong points

<snicker>

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:20:30 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
not
> >> >> worth the effort.
> >> >====
> >> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
effort
> >to
> >> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> >====
> >> >====
> >> >
> >> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> >> yourself again.
> >
> >
> >Nov 1 - 49 posts
> >Nov 2 - 100 posts
> >Nov 3 - 22 posts
> >Nov 9 - 40 posts
> >Nov 12 - 29 posts
> >Nov 16 - 19 posts
> >Nov 17 - 22 posts
> >
> >plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> >
> >Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> >
> >once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
of
> >****.
> >
> >
> November 2nds posts were those flame warriors that took about 10
> minutes total for me to upload.
>
> I dont sit here all day like you would like to think and post.
> Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> connection that actually works.

[Tiffany]

Gini52 > wrote in message
...
> In article t>, Bob
Whiteside
> says...
> >
> >
> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> >> says...
> >> ............................
> >> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >> >connection that actually works.
> >> ===
> >> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much
is
> >> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
> >reading
> >> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> >> ===
> >> ===
> >
> >Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few
words
> >and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
> >people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
> >exponentially
> ===
> LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the
plagiarized.
> ===
> ===
>

LMAO.. ok guys. Stop making me laugh so damn hard.

T

[Tiffany]

Gini52 > wrote in message
...
> In article t>, Bob
Whiteside
> says...
> >
> >
> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> >> says...
> >> ............................
> >> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >> >connection that actually works.
> >> ===
> >> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much
is
> >> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
> >reading
> >> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> >> ===
> >> ===
> >
> >Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few
words
> >and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
> >people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
> >exponentially
> ===
> LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the
plagiarized.
> ===
> ===
>

LMAO.. ok guys. Stop making me laugh so damn hard.

T

[Fighting For Kids]

On 19 Nov 2003 13:26:41 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article >, Fighting For Kids
>says...
>............................
>>Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>>connection that actually works.
>===
>Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth reading
>through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>===
>===
You guys post just as much. Every comment I make each one of you
responds and then some..

dont give yourself too much credit.

[Fighting For Kids]

On 19 Nov 2003 13:26:41 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article >, Fighting For Kids
>says...
>............................
>>Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>>connection that actually works.
>===
>Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth reading
>through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>===
>===
You guys post just as much. Every comment I make each one of you
responds and then some..

dont give yourself too much credit.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:03:37 GMT, "Bob Whiteside"
> wrote:

>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>> says...
>> ............................
>> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>> >connection that actually works.
>> ===
>> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>reading
>> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>> ===
>> ===
>
>Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
>and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>exponentially
>
Or you can make the same mistakes typing slow like you guys do, hunt
and peck..

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 22:03:37 GMT, "Bob Whiteside"
> wrote:

>
>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>> says...
>> ............................
>> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>> >connection that actually works.
>> ===
>> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>reading
>> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>> ===
>> ===
>
>Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
>and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>exponentially
>
Or you can make the same mistakes typing slow like you guys do, hunt
and peck..

[Fighting For Kids]

On 19 Nov 2003 14:14:51 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article t>, Bob Whiteside
>says...
>>
>>
>>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>>> says...
>>> ............................
>>> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>>> >connection that actually works.
>>> ===
>>> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>>> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>>reading
>>> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>>> ===
>>> ===
>>
>>Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
>>and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>>people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>>exponentially
>===
>LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the plagiarized.
>===
>===
Bob, Gini, Paul, Ken??? Who is talking?

[Fighting For Kids]

On 19 Nov 2003 14:14:51 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:

>In article t>, Bob Whiteside
>says...
>>
>>
>>"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
>>> In article >, Fighting For Kids
>>> says...
>>> ............................
>>> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>>> >connection that actually works.
>>> ===
>>> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
>>> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>>reading
>>> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>>> ===
>>> ===
>>
>>Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few words
>>and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>>people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>>exponentially
>===
>LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the plagiarized.
>===
>===
Bob, Gini, Paul, Ken??? Who is talking?

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Gini52 > wrote in message
...
>> In article t>, Bob
>Whiteside
>> says...
>> >
>> >
>> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> In article >, Fighting For
>Kids
>> >> says...
>> >> ............................
>> >> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>> >> >connection that actually works.
>> >> ===
>> >> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much
>is
>> >> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>> >reading
>> >> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>> >> ===
>> >> ===
>> >
>> >Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few
>words
>> >and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>> >people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>> >exponentially
>> ===
>> LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the
>plagiarized.
>> ===
>> ===
>>
>
>LMAO.. ok guys. Stop making me laugh so damn hard.
>
>T
>
Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
her pants buttoned.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Gini52 > wrote in message
...
>> In article t>, Bob
>Whiteside
>> says...
>> >
>> >
>> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >> In article >, Fighting For
>Kids
>> >> says...
>> >> ............................
>> >> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
>> >> >connection that actually works.
>> >> ===
>> >> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much
>is
>> >> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
>> >reading
>> >> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
>> >> ===
>> >> ===
>> >
>> >Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few
>words
>> >and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from other
>> >people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
>> >exponentially
>> ===
>> LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the
>plagiarized.
>> ===
>> ===
>>
>
>LMAO.. ok guys. Stop making me laugh so damn hard.
>
>T
>
Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
her pants buttoned.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:02:50 -0500, "Tiffany"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off
>comments
>> >without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here
>to
>> >listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on
>dealing
>> >with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
>> >change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
>> >reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
>> >the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
>> >some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.
>> >
>> >Good luck.
>> >
>> Why dont you read what you said and practice what you preach.
>>
>> Stir up others? No I think you are mistaken. I came here just like
>> you and made one post and was attacked by the cronies in the group
>> because I didnt beleive the same things as they did. Iwas called
>> names and was stupid and blind beacuse I didnt go along with them,
>> like you are.
>>
>> I dont need your approval for anything.
>>
>> As far as my children are concerned, I dont take anything out on my
>> children. You are scum bag for even suggesting such crap.
>>
>> You however, im sure YOU bad mouth the mother of the children who are
>> a part of your life.
>>
>> I dont make sense? The only posts I make are after someone personally
>> attacks me and my children.
>>
>> You have your head shoved so far up your ass you will never get it
>> out.
>>
>
>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it straight. So
>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say they
>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by ignoring
>them or being snippy.

I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.

>
>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad mouthing
>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.

I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
>
>Third, when you post here, you really need to back up what you say. You came
>here with all sorts of statistics but never once could you say where they
>came from. You were asked over and over again. You lost any credibility or
>respect.
>

Excuse me? I actually posted were they came from no one took the time
to look them up except one person.

When I asked for statitsical information NOT ONE persons showed me
proof. Just a bunch of homemade websites that had some crap pasted on
them.

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>
>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:02:50 -0500, "Tiffany"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >My efforts are not of your concern. I don't come here to spout off
>comments
>> >without backing them up. I didn't come here with some agenda. I came here
>to
>> >listen to both sides of the CS story and to get some suggestions on
>dealing
>> >with my own personal situation. You need to take heed to both sides for a
>> >change. I have been reading your posts for sometime and it seems the only
>> >reason you post is to stir up others. You make hardly any sense and after
>> >the Nov 2 posts you lost any chance of respect. I only hope that this is
>> >some way to vent so that you don't take it out on your children or child.
>> >
>> >Good luck.
>> >
>> Why dont you read what you said and practice what you preach.
>>
>> Stir up others? No I think you are mistaken. I came here just like
>> you and made one post and was attacked by the cronies in the group
>> because I didnt beleive the same things as they did. Iwas called
>> names and was stupid and blind beacuse I didnt go along with them,
>> like you are.
>>
>> I dont need your approval for anything.
>>
>> As far as my children are concerned, I dont take anything out on my
>> children. You are scum bag for even suggesting such crap.
>>
>> You however, im sure YOU bad mouth the mother of the children who are
>> a part of your life.
>>
>> I dont make sense? The only posts I make are after someone personally
>> attacks me and my children.
>>
>> You have your head shoved so far up your ass you will never get it
>> out.
>>
>
>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it straight. So
>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say they
>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by ignoring
>them or being snippy.

I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.

>
>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad mouthing
>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.

I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
>
>Third, when you post here, you really need to back up what you say. You came
>here with all sorts of statistics but never once could you say where they
>came from. You were asked over and over again. You lost any credibility or
>respect.
>

Excuse me? I actually posted were they came from no one took the time
to look them up except one person.

When I asked for statitsical information NOT ONE persons showed me
proof. Just a bunch of homemade websites that had some crap pasted on
them.

[Paul Fritz]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> ............................
> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >connection that actually works.
> ===
> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
reading
> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> ===
> ===

Yeah.....she is really showing how bright she is......LMAO

I wonder when my internet connections stopped working? How the hell am I
posting this? must be part of that vast conspiracy.

<snicker>

>

[Paul Fritz]

"Gini52" > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> ............................
> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >connection that actually works.
> ===
> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much is
> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
reading
> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> ===
> ===

Yeah.....she is really showing how bright she is......LMAO

I wonder when my internet connections stopped working? How the hell am I
posting this? must be part of that vast conspiracy.

<snicker>

>

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:02:53 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>So all those posts on Nov 2 were a rebuttal? I don't think so.

Now we are back to this again. I posted all those because everyone
kept calling me names. Like troll, etc. So I posted.

>
>And how the hell do you know about my typing skills? Again, get a grip. Stay
>on point.

Exactly stay on point instead of trying to play holier than thou and
attacking people that have a different view than you.
>
>T
>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:58:13 -0500, "Tiffany"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
>> >only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time
>that
>> >one week in one night of stupid posting?
>> >
>>
>> It doesnt take much to make a post and if you type fast you can do it
>> even faster.
>>
>> Im not sitting here hunting and pecking for the letters on the
>> keyboard like you obvously are.
>>
>> Stupid posting? Most of my posts again are in rebuttle to someone
>> already attacking me and my children. Nice,huh. Go against the
>> groups beliefs and they attack your character even though they dont
>> know you.
>>
>> Just like you did, speaks highly of your own character.
>

[Fighting For Kids]

On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:02:53 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:

>So all those posts on Nov 2 were a rebuttal? I don't think so.

Now we are back to this again. I posted all those because everyone
kept calling me names. Like troll, etc. So I posted.

>
>And how the hell do you know about my typing skills? Again, get a grip. Stay
>on point.

Exactly stay on point instead of trying to play holier than thou and
attacking people that have a different view than you.
>
>T
>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
>> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 12:58:13 -0500, "Tiffany"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>
>> >
>> >You obviously are forgetting Nov 2. But hey, that was a long time ago and
>> >only posting HERE 25 minutes a week. Hell, didn't you use up your time
>that
>> >one week in one night of stupid posting?
>> >
>>
>> It doesnt take much to make a post and if you type fast you can do it
>> even faster.
>>
>> Im not sitting here hunting and pecking for the letters on the
>> keyboard like you obvously are.
>>
>> Stupid posting? Most of my posts again are in rebuttle to someone
>> already attacking me and my children. Nice,huh. Go against the
>> groups beliefs and they attack your character even though they dont
>> know you.
>>
>> Just like you did, speaks highly of your own character.
>

[Paul Fritz]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>

Yeah, I think I will just curl up into a ball and die LMAO

>
> Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of your
> typing and internet connection. :)
>
> T
>
>

[Paul Fritz]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>

Yeah, I think I will just curl up into a ball and die LMAO

>
> Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of your
> typing and internet connection. :)
>
> T
>
>

[Paul Fritz]

"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >

> >T
> >
> Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
> her pants buttoned.


what was it you just said...."Can't attack real credibility so you go to the
little child stuff"

<snicker> what a maroon

[Paul Fritz]

"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >

> >T
> >
> Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
> her pants buttoned.


what was it you just said...."Can't attack real credibility so you go to the
little child stuff"

<snicker> what a maroon

[Paul Fritz]

"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
> On 19 Nov 2003 14:14:51 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>

> >===
> Bob, Gini, Paul, Ken??? Who is talking?

what was it you just said...."Can't attack real credibility so you go to the
little child stuff"

<snicker> what a maroon

[Paul Fritz]

"stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
...
> On 19 Nov 2003 14:14:51 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>

> >===
> Bob, Gini, Paul, Ken??? Who is talking?

what was it you just said...."Can't attack real credibility so you go to the
little child stuff"

<snicker> what a maroon

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:02:53 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >So all those posts on Nov 2 were a rebuttal? I don't think so.
>
> Now we are back to this again. I posted all those because everyone
> kept calling me names. Like troll, etc. So I posted.

So you blame your actions on others? Not a mature way about it. And if you
did it in anger, you sure could have apologized and made it right.

Again, your replies are boring me so good luck in your endevors.

T

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:02:53 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >So all those posts on Nov 2 were a rebuttal? I don't think so.
>
> Now we are back to this again. I posted all those because everyone
> kept calling me names. Like troll, etc. So I posted.

So you blame your actions on others? Not a mature way about it. And if you
did it in anger, you sure could have apologized and made it right.

Again, your replies are boring me so good luck in your endevors.

T

[Tiffany]

NOOOO.... don't do that! Must I flirt with you again to build you back up?
Tell you how handsome you are? ;)

T
Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
>
> Yeah, I think I will just curl up into a ball and die LMAO
>
> >
> > Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of
your
> > typing and internet connection. :)
> >
> > T
> >
> >
>
>

[Tiffany]

NOOOO.... don't do that! Must I flirt with you again to build you back up?
Tell you how handsome you are? ;)

T
Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
>
> Yeah, I think I will just curl up into a ball and die LMAO
>
> >
> > Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of
your
> > typing and internet connection. :)
> >
> > T
> >
> >
>
>

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Gini52 > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article t>, Bob
> >Whiteside
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> In article >, Fighting
For
> >Kids
> >> >> says...
> >> >> ............................
> >> >> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >> >> >connection that actually works.
> >> >> ===
> >> >> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so
much
> >is
> >> >> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
> >> >reading
> >> >> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> >> >> ===
> >> >> ===
> >> >
> >> >Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few
> >words
> >> >and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from
other
> >> >people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
> >> >exponentially
> >> ===
> >> LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the
> >plagiarized.
> >> ===
> >> ===
> >>
> >
> >LMAO.. ok guys. Stop making me laugh so damn hard.
> >
> >T
> >
> Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
> her pants buttoned.

ouch.. boy that hurt. lol Get a grip...... AGAIN! God, you are boring me.
Good luck in your life.

T

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >Gini52 > wrote in message
> ...
> >> In article t>, Bob
> >Whiteside
> >> says...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >"Gini52" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> >> In article >, Fighting
For
> >Kids
> >> >> says...
> >> >> ............................
> >> >> >Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >> >> >connection that actually works.
> >> >> ===
> >> >> Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so
much
> >is
> >> >> because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
> >> >reading
> >> >> through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> >> >> ===
> >> >> ===
> >> >
> >> >Leave out all the apostrophes, don't use capital letters, skip a few
> >words
> >> >and you'll type fast too. Oh yeah, and don't read the posts from
other
> >> >people before you post, skip spell check, and the speed factor goes up
> >> >exponentially
> >> ===
> >> LOL! Don't forget--cut, paste and change the names to protect the
> >plagiarized.
> >> ===
> >> ===
> >>
> >
> >LMAO.. ok guys. Stop making me laugh so damn hard.
> >
> >T
> >
> Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
> her pants buttoned.

ouch.. boy that hurt. lol Get a grip...... AGAIN! God, you are boring me.
Good luck in your life.

T

[Tiffany]

Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
>
> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
>
> > >T
> > >
> > Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
> > her pants buttoned.
>
>
> what was it you just said...."Can't attack real credibility so you go to
the
> little child stuff"
>
> <snicker> what a maroon
>
>

Yeah, were I a bit more childish, say 10, that would have hurt my feelings.
:)

T

[Tiffany]

Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
>
> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> ...
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 19:15:06 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
>
> > >T
> > >
> > Yeah, she has a hard enough time fitting into her jeans AND keeping
> > her pants buttoned.
>
>
> what was it you just said...."Can't attack real credibility so you go to
the
> little child stuff"
>
> <snicker> what a maroon
>
>

Yeah, were I a bit more childish, say 10, that would have hurt my feelings.
:)

T

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On 19 Nov 2003 13:26:41 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> >says...
> >............................
> >>Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >>connection that actually works.
> >===
> >Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much
is
> >because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
reading
> >through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> >===
> >===
> You guys post just as much. Every comment I make each one of you
> responds and then some..
>
> dont give yourself too much credit.

I can't speak for anyone else but I never commented that I don't post a lot
or that I am only online 25 minutes a week.

God you are boring.

T

[Tiffany]

Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
...
> On 19 Nov 2003 13:26:41 -0800, Gini52 > wrote:
>
> >In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> >says...
> >............................
> >>Unlike you paul, I can type extremely fast and have an internet
> >>connection that actually works.
> >===
> >Didja get that, Paul? The only reason the rest of us don't post so much
is
> >because we're slow typers with lousy connections. That gem was worth
reading
> >through all the crap to find (didn't want ya to miss it :-).
> >===
> >===
> You guys post just as much. Every comment I make each one of you
> responds and then some..
>
> dont give yourself too much credit.

I can't speak for anyone else but I never commented that I don't post a lot
or that I am only online 25 minutes a week.

God you are boring.

T

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
>
>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
..............................................
>>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it straight. So
>>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say they
>>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by ignoring
>>them or being snippy.
>
>I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
>even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
>on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
>
>>
>>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad mouthing
>>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
>
>I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
====
Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
====
====

[Gini52]

In article >, Fighting For Kids
says...
>
>On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> wrote:
>
>>
>>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
..............................................
>>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it straight. So
>>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say they
>>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by ignoring
>>them or being snippy.
>
>I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
>even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
>on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
>
>>
>>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad mouthing
>>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
>
>I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
====
Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
====
====

[Melvin Gamble]

She's right, Gini...

Fighting For Kids wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >====
> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >====
> >====
> >
> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> yourself again.

I counted over 50 in about 12 hours. But then you were talking about
the nonsense ones and I was including the obnoxious ones...

Mel Gamble

[Melvin Gamble]

She's right, Gini...

Fighting For Kids wrote:
>
> On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> ...
> >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> >> worth the effort.
> >====
> >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
> >punch an apostrophe key?
> >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >====
> >====
> >
> 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> yourself again.

I counted over 50 in about 12 hours. But then you were talking about
the nonsense ones and I was including the obnoxious ones...

Mel Gamble

[Tiffany]

Gini52 > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> >
> >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> .............................................
> >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
straight. So
> >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say
they
> >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
ignoring
> >>them or being snippy.
> >
> >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> >
> >>
> >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
mouthing
> >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> >
> >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> ====
> Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> ====
> ====
>

Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words or
something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty obvious
that I am a female.

T

[Tiffany]

Gini52 > wrote in message
...
> In article >, Fighting For Kids
> says...
> >
> >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> .............................................
> >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
straight. So
> >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say
they
> >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
ignoring
> >>them or being snippy.
> >
> >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> >
> >>
> >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
mouthing
> >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> >
> >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> ====
> Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> ====
> ====
>

Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words or
something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty obvious
that I am a female.

T

[Melvin Gamble]

: ) : ) : ) : )...

Fighting For Kids wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
> >not
> >> > >> worth the effort.
> >> > >====
> >> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
> >effort
> >> to
> >> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> >> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> > >====
> >> > >====
> >> > >
> >> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> >> > yourself again.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> >> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> >> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> >> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> >> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> >> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> >> Nov 17 - 22 posts
> >>
> >> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> >>
> >> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> >>
> >> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
> >of
> >> ****.
> >>
> >
> >Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30
>
> Where are you even getting these stats at?
> How about posting your own, and the others here?

It's called "counting"...a very interesting concept - maybe you could
take some classes...

Mel Gamble

[Melvin Gamble]

: ) : ) : ) : )...

Fighting For Kids wrote:
>
> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >>
> >> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> >> ...
> >> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >> >
> >> > >
> >> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> >> > ...
> >> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its
> >not
> >> > >> worth the effort.
> >> > >====
> >> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
> >effort
> >> to
> >> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> >> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> >> > >====
> >> > >====
> >> > >
> >> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> >> > yourself again.
> >>
> >>
> >> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> >> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> >> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> >> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> >> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> >> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> >> Nov 17 - 22 posts
> >>
> >> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> >>
> >> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> >>
> >> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is full
> >of
> >> ****.
> >>
> >
> >Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30
>
> Where are you even getting these stats at?
> How about posting your own, and the others here?

It's called "counting"...a very interesting concept - maybe you could
take some classes...

Mel Gamble

[Bob Whiteside]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>
> Gini52 > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> > says...
> > >
> > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> > .............................................
> > >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
> straight. So
> > >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say
> they
> > >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
> ignoring
> > >>them or being snippy.
> > >
> > >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> > >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> > >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
> mouthing
> > >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> > >
> > >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> > ====
> > Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> > ====
> > ====
> >
>
> Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words or
> something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty obvious
> that I am a female.

Well you have to admit there are probably more female impersonators named
"Tiffany" than other names like Mildred, Velma, or Lenore.

[Bob Whiteside]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>
> Gini52 > wrote in message
> ...
> > In article >, Fighting For
Kids
> > says...
> > >
> > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> > .............................................
> > >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
> straight. So
> > >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say
> they
> > >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
> ignoring
> > >>them or being snippy.
> > >
> > >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> > >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> > >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> > >
> > >>
> > >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
> mouthing
> > >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> > >
> > >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> > ====
> > Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> > ====
> > ====
> >
>
> Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words or
> something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty obvious
> that I am a female.

Well you have to admit there are probably more female impersonators named
"Tiffany" than other names like Mildred, Velma, or Lenore.

[Bob Whiteside]

"Melvin Gamble" > wrote in message
...
> : ) : ) : ) : )...
>
> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>
> > >> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > >> > ...
> > >> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies,
its
> > >not
> > >> > >> worth the effort.
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
> > >effort
> > >> to
> > >> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >
> > >> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > >> > yourself again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> > >> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> > >> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> > >> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> > >> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> > >> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> > >> Nov 17 - 22 posts
> > >>
> > >> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> > >>
> > >> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> > >>
> > >> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is
full
> > >of
> > >> ****.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30
> >
> > Where are you even getting these stats at?
> > How about posting your own, and the others here?
>
> It's called "counting"...a very interesting concept - maybe you could
> take some classes...

That's why FFK needs to wear a tin foil hat. Others here have powers FFK
hasn't been blessed with.

[Bob Whiteside]

"Melvin Gamble" > wrote in message
...
> : ) : ) : ) : )...
>
> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>
> > >> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > >> > ...
> > >> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies,
its
> > >not
> > >> > >> worth the effort.
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
> > >effort
> > >> to
> > >> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >
> > >> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > >> > yourself again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> > >> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> > >> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> > >> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> > >> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> > >> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> > >> Nov 17 - 22 posts
> > >>
> > >> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> > >>
> > >> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> > >>
> > >> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is
full
> > >of
> > >> ****.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30
> >
> > Where are you even getting these stats at?
> > How about posting your own, and the others here?
>
> It's called "counting"...a very interesting concept - maybe you could
> take some classes...

That's why FFK needs to wear a tin foil hat. Others here have powers FFK
hasn't been blessed with.

[Tiffany]

Bob Whiteside > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Gini52 > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, Fighting For
> Kids
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> > > .............................................
> > > >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
> > straight. So
> > > >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can
say
> > they
> > > >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
> > ignoring
> > > >>them or being snippy.
> > > >
> > > >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> > > >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> > > >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
> > mouthing
> > > >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> > > >
> > > >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> > > ====
> > > Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> > > ====
> > > ====
> > >
> >
> > Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words
or
> > something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty
obvious
> > that I am a female.
>
> Well you have to admit there are probably more female impersonators named
> "Tiffany" than other names like Mildred, Velma, or Lenore.
>
>
Really? Wow.... never noticed. lol

T

[Tiffany]

Bob Whiteside > wrote in message
ink.net...
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Gini52 > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, Fighting For
> Kids
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> > > .............................................
> > > >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
> > straight. So
> > > >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can
say
> > they
> > > >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
> > ignoring
> > > >>them or being snippy.
> > > >
> > > >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> > > >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> > > >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
> > mouthing
> > > >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> > > >
> > > >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> > > ====
> > > Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> > > ====
> > > ====
> > >
> >
> > Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words
or
> > something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty
obvious
> > that I am a female.
>
> Well you have to admit there are probably more female impersonators named
> "Tiffany" than other names like Mildred, Velma, or Lenore.
>
>
Really? Wow.... never noticed. lol

T

[Paul Fritz]

Maybe.......since stevey says I can't deal with women <sob> LMAO

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
> NOOOO.... don't do that! Must I flirt with you again to build you back up?
> Tell you how handsome you are? ;)
>
> T
> Paul Fritz > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I think I will just curl up into a ball and die LMAO
> >
> > >
> > > Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of
> your
> > > typing and internet connection. :)
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Paul Fritz]

Maybe.......since stevey says I can't deal with women <sob> LMAO

"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
> NOOOO.... don't do that! Must I flirt with you again to build you back up?
> Tell you how handsome you are? ;)
>
> T
> Paul Fritz > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >
> >
> > Yeah, I think I will just curl up into a ball and die LMAO
> >
> > >
> > > Ahh Paul I know that hurts your feelings to have someone make fun of
> your
> > > typing and internet connection. :)
> > >
> > > T
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Paul Fritz]

"Melvin Gamble" > wrote in message
...
> : ) : ) : ) : )...
>
> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>
> > >> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > >> > ...
> > >> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies,
its
> > >not
> > >> > >> worth the effort.
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
> > >effort
> > >> to
> > >> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >
> > >> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > >> > yourself again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> > >> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> > >> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> > >> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> > >> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> > >> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> > >> Nov 17 - 22 posts
> > >>
> > >> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> > >>
> > >> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> > >>
> > >> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is
full
> > >of
> > >> ****.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30
> >
> > Where are you even getting these stats at?
> > How about posting your own, and the others here?
>
> It's called "counting"...a very interesting concept - maybe you could
> take some classes...

LMAO..........that would be the class where they have to take their shoes
off to get past ten



>
> Mel Gamble

[Paul Fritz]

"Melvin Gamble" > wrote in message
...
> : ) : ) : ) : )...
>
> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 13:31:03 -0800, "Paul Fritz"
> > > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Paul Fritz" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >>
> > >> "stealing for mommies" > wrote in message
> > >> ...
> > >> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > >
> > >> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > >> > ...
> > >> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies,
its
> > >not
> > >> > >> worth the effort.
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the
> > >effort
> > >> to
> > >> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >====
> > >> > >
> > >> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > >> > yourself again.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Nov 1 - 49 posts
> > >> Nov 2 - 100 posts
> > >> Nov 3 - 22 posts
> > >> Nov 9 - 40 posts
> > >> Nov 12 - 29 posts
> > >> Nov 16 - 19 posts
> > >> Nov 17 - 22 posts
> > >>
> > >> plus another weeks worth of 10+ posts a day.
> > >>
> > >> Total posts for Gini Nov1 - current , less than 70
> > >>
> > >> once again 'stealing for mommies' proves without a doubt that she is
full
> > >of
> > >> ****.
> > >>
> > >
> > >Nov 19 - 23 posts by 1:30
> >
> > Where are you even getting these stats at?
> > How about posting your own, and the others here?
>
> It's called "counting"...a very interesting concept - maybe you could
> take some classes...

LMAO..........that would be the class where they have to take their shoes
off to get past ten



>
> Mel Gamble

[Melvin Gamble]

Strange....

Bob Whiteside wrote:
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Gini52 > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, Fighting For
> Kids
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> > > .............................................
> > > >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
> > straight. So
> > > >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say
> > they
> > > >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
> > ignoring
> > > >>them or being snippy.
> > > >
> > > >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> > > >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> > > >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
> > mouthing
> > > >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> > > >
> > > >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> > > ====
> > > Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> > > ====
> > > ====
> > >
> >
> > Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words or
> > something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty obvious
> > that I am a female.
>
> Well you have to admit there are probably more female impersonators named
> "Tiffany" than other names like Mildred, Velma, or Lenore.

....I thought female impersonators would be more likely to have names
like "Martin" or "Larry" or "Milford" or "Samuel"...or Mel, Bob or Paul
: )

On the other hand, if you're referring to people impersonating
"ladies"...that's a whole different ballgame. There are several posters
here doing a fine job of portraying themselves as ladies. Since
everyone's true identity is "anonymous" here, they may be
impersonators. But they are doing a GOOD job of it - you could take
some pointers from them.

Mel Gamble

[Melvin Gamble]

Strange....

Bob Whiteside wrote:
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > Gini52 > wrote in message
> > ...
> > > In article >, Fighting For
> Kids
> > > says...
> > > >
> > > >On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 15:01:20 -0500, "Tiffany"
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Fighting For Kids > wrote in message
> > > .............................................
> > > >>I know it gets confusing reading all these posts and keeping it
> > straight. So
> > > >>first off, I was not implying you BEAT your kids but no parent can say
> > they
> > > >>never had a bad day and took it out on the kids, whether that be by
> > ignoring
> > > >>them or being snippy.
> > > >
> > > >I never said the word BEAT. I dont lay a hand on my children, I dont
> > > >even SPANK THEM!!! I have bad days sure, but I sure dont take it out
> > > >on my children by ignorning them or yelling at them.
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >>Second..... what the hell are you talking about? What does me bad
> > mouthing
> > > >>mothers have to do with anything? Get a grip.
> > > >
> > > >I said you probably bad mouth the kids mother in front of them
> > > ====
> > > Ummm...She *is* the kid's mother.
> > > ====
> > > ====
> > >
> >
> > Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her words or
> > something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems pretty obvious
> > that I am a female.
>
> Well you have to admit there are probably more female impersonators named
> "Tiffany" than other names like Mildred, Velma, or Lenore.

....I thought female impersonators would be more likely to have names
like "Martin" or "Larry" or "Milford" or "Samuel"...or Mel, Bob or Paul
: )

On the other hand, if you're referring to people impersonating
"ladies"...that's a whole different ballgame. There are several posters
here doing a fine job of portraying themselves as ladies. Since
everyone's true identity is "anonymous" here, they may be
impersonators. But they are doing a GOOD job of it - you could take
some pointers from them.

Mel Gamble

[Rambler]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message


> Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her
> words or something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems
> pretty obvious that I am a female.

Um . . . 'Boy Named Sue?'

[Rambler]

"Tiffany" > wrote in message


> Yeah.... I noticed that comment but thought she was confusing her
> words or something. You know, being as my name is Tiffany, it seems
> pretty obvious that I am a female.

Um . . . 'Boy Named Sue?'

[Rambler]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:10 GMT, The Dave© > wrote:
>
>>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>>>>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies,
>>>>> its not >> worth the effort.
>>>>
>>>> Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>>>> self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>>>
>>> So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing
>>> because you use apostrophes?
>>>
>>> Hmm.. thats interesting.
>>
>> Ahhhh, the memories of junior high school, and the dumbass and inane
>> comebacks when a person has no real point.
>
> Like the one you just made.

Umm . . . 'Jo Mama?'

[Rambler]

"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message

> On Wed, 19 Nov 2003 18:18:10 GMT, The Dave© > wrote:
>
>>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>>>>> Fighting For Kids wrote:
>>>>> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies,
>>>>> its not >> worth the effort.
>>>>
>>>> Appearing intelligent and articulate, and thus demonstrating
>>>> self-respect, aren't worth your time? A very telling statement.
>>>
>>> So thats what you do is "appear" that you know what your doing
>>> because you use apostrophes?
>>>
>>> Hmm.. thats interesting.
>>
>> Ahhhh, the memories of junior high school, and the dumbass and inane
>> comebacks when a person has no real point.
>
> Like the one you just made.

Umm . . . 'Jo Mama?'

[Kenneth S.]

The Dave© wrote:
>
> > Kenneth S. wrote:
> > She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
> > contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
> > thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking
> > about.
>
> According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend especially
> of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that she
> considers me a close friend.

Well, yes, Dave, I know what a crony is. What puzzled me what the use
of the singular "a" with the plural "cronies."

However, as with so many aspects of the strange functioning of the
Fighting For Bucks intellect, we may never know. All we know for sure
is that she has loads of time on her hands. Maybe she's a crone
herself. (Look it up in the dictionary, Fighting.)

[Kenneth S.]

The Dave© wrote:
>
> > Kenneth S. wrote:
> > She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
> > contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the only
> > thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is talking
> > about.
>
> According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend especially
> of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing that she
> considers me a close friend.

Well, yes, Dave, I know what a crony is. What puzzled me what the use
of the singular "a" with the plural "cronies."

However, as with so many aspects of the strange functioning of the
Fighting For Bucks intellect, we may never know. All we know for sure
is that she has loads of time on her hands. Maybe she's a crone
herself. (Look it up in the dictionary, Fighting.)

[Kenneth S.]

I know it's fun baiting Fighting for Bucks, and I myself am an offender
in that context. However, I really wonder if we haven't reached the
point where we should just give her a fool's pardon, and move on to
other things.


Melvin Gamble wrote:
>
> She's right, Gini...
>
> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> > >> worth the effort.
> > >====
> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >====
> > >====
> > >
> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > yourself again.
>
> I counted over 50 in about 12 hours. But then you were talking about
> the nonsense ones and I was including the obnoxious ones...
>
> Mel Gamble

[Kenneth S.]

I know it's fun baiting Fighting for Bucks, and I myself am an offender
in that context. However, I really wonder if we haven't reached the
point where we should just give her a fool's pardon, and move on to
other things.


Melvin Gamble wrote:
>
> She's right, Gini...
>
> Fighting For Kids wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 13:56:49 -0500, "Gini" > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >"Fighting For Kids" > wrote in message
> > ...
> > >> Sorry, I dont take the time to use apostrophes with a cronies, its not
> > >> worth the effort.
> > >====
> > >You'll post 25 +/- nonsensical posts a day but it's not worth the effort to
> > >punch an apostrophe key?
> > >That's an interesting perspective on "effort."
> > >====
> > >====
> > >
> > 25+ post a day? Hardly Gini. I think you have confused me with
> > yourself again.
>
> I counted over 50 in about 12 hours. But then you were talking about
> the nonsense ones and I was including the obnoxious ones...
>
> Mel Gamble

[Tiffany]

Stevey is probably still a virgin. lol Note to all virgins: nothing wrong
with being a virgin.

T
Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
> Maybe.......since stevey says I can't deal with women <sob> LMAO
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> > NOOOO.... don't do that! Must I flirt with you again to build you back
up?
> > Tell you how handsome you are? ;)

[Tiffany]

Stevey is probably still a virgin. lol Note to all virgins: nothing wrong
with being a virgin.

T
Paul Fritz > wrote in message
...
> Maybe.......since stevey says I can't deal with women <sob> LMAO
>
> "Tiffany" > wrote in message
> ...
> > NOOOO.... don't do that! Must I flirt with you again to build you back
up?
> > Tell you how handsome you are? ;)

[The Dave©]

> Kenneth S. wrote:

> The Dave© wrote:
> >
> > > Kenneth S. wrote:
> > > She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
> > > contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the
> > > only thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is
> > > talking about.
> >
> > According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend
> > especially of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing
> > that she considers me a close friend.
>
> Well, yes, Dave, I know what a crony is. What puzzled me what the
> use of the singular "a" with the plural "cronies."

Ah, got'cha. I misread your comment. My bad. I couldn't resist
adding my little bit of sarcasm, too, and it was a perfect chance.

> However, as with so many aspects of the strange functioning of the
> Fighting For Bucks intellect, we may never know. All we know for sure
> is that she has loads of time on her hands. Maybe she's a crone
> herself. (Look it up in the dictionary, Fighting.)

Yes, she does seem to have oodles of time, yet when an inconvenient
question comes up, she claims to have a life and no time to answer,
then proceeds to post dozens of things all while still avoiding the
inconvenient question.

[The Dave©]

> Kenneth S. wrote:

> The Dave© wrote:
> >
> > > Kenneth S. wrote:
> > > She doesn't use sentences either, to judge from the above
> > > contribution. And what's "a cronies," I wonder. It's about the
> > > only thing where I'm curious about what Fighting for Bucks is
> > > talking about.
> >
> > According to the dictionary, a "crony" is: **a close friend
> > especially of long standing**. I feel all warm and fuzzy knowing
> > that she considers me a close friend.
>
> Well, yes, Dave, I know what a crony is. What puzzled me what the
> use of the singular "a" with the plural "cronies."

Ah, got'cha. I misread your comment. My bad. I couldn't resist
adding my little bit of sarcasm, too, and it was a perfect chance.

> However, as with so many aspects of the strange functioning of the
> Fighting For Bucks intellect, we may never know. All we know for sure
> is that she has loads of time on her hands. Maybe she's a crone
> herself. (Look it up in the dictionary, Fighting.)

Yes, she does seem to have oodles of time, yet when an inconvenient
question comes up, she claims to have a life and no time to answer,
then proceeds to post dozens of things all while still avoiding the
inconvenient question.