Hello

[Istara]

I'm not entirely a newbie - I've been lurking since mid-June, or so.
Probably would still be just lurking, but I finally had to break cover
on the "Dating and Marriage Advice" thread, so I figured I'd better say
hello.

I am, unfortunately, still in the process of becoming a single mom,
after having been with the same man for nearly 15 years (13 of them, so
far, married). Our son is 9, smart kid, taking it all much better than
his father expected him to, about the way *I* expected. He does better
than I do about it, at times. His grades at school, in academics and
conduct, have all improved since his dad moved out, he sleeps better,
and is generally as happy or happier a child than he was, so... Dad
wasn't abusive or anything, he just wasn't 'there' much of the time even
when home, the last couple of years.

The "process" has been ongoing for the past 10 months, or 15 months,
depending on how you look at it (he said he wanted out of the marriage,
wanted ME to move out, then took 5 months to make up his mind to move
out himself, when I refused), and no end in sight. I was of the opinion
that if he wanted a divorce, it was HIS place to deal with the legal
headaches. I'm not TOO naive - I DO have a lawyer, and am not letting
him push me around on things, but it was his choice, so his
responsibility. At any rate...

Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)

~ Dor

[Paul Griffiths]

"Istara" > wrote in message
.. .

<snip>

> Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
> the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)

Welcome.

It's rather nice to talk to lurkers. Glad your son is deal with things so
well. Fingers crossed it continues that way.


--
Paul Griffiths

[Cele]

On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:46:33 -0400, Istara
> wrote:

[snip intro]

>Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
>the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)

Nice to meet you, Dor. I'm Cele, 45, daughters 19 & nearly 17. I was
with my ex 17 years, 1 of them married, and have been on my own lo
these past 12.

And am now enjoying the beginnings of a relationship of significance
for the first time in all those years, totally unexpected, and a
complete delight! Every once in the while good things *do* happen, it
seems.....

[grin]

Cele

[denanson]

"Istara" < wrote in message
>
> Hello, nice to meet you all,

Hello and greetings from Ireland.

Dennis, three boys

[CME]

"Istara" > wrote in message
.. .
> I'm not entirely a newbie - I've been lurking since mid-June, or so.
> Probably would still be just lurking, but I finally had to break cover
> on the "Dating and Marriage Advice" thread, so I figured I'd better say
> hello.
>
> I am, unfortunately, still in the process of becoming a single mom,
> after having been with the same man for nearly 15 years (13 of them, so
> far, married). Our son is 9, smart kid, taking it all much better than
> his father expected him to, about the way *I* expected. He does better
> than I do about it, at times. His grades at school, in academics and
> conduct, have all improved since his dad moved out, he sleeps better,
> and is generally as happy or happier a child than he was, so... Dad
> wasn't abusive or anything, he just wasn't 'there' much of the time even
> when home, the last couple of years.
>
> The "process" has been ongoing for the past 10 months, or 15 months,
> depending on how you look at it (he said he wanted out of the marriage,
> wanted ME to move out, then took 5 months to make up his mind to move
> out himself, when I refused), and no end in sight. I was of the opinion
> that if he wanted a divorce, it was HIS place to deal with the legal
> headaches. I'm not TOO naive - I DO have a lawyer, and am not letting
> him push me around on things, but it was his choice, so his
> responsibility. At any rate...
>
> Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
> the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
>
> ~ Dor

No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit back and
enjoy it's truly a great place.

Christine
(Mom of 8 year old twin boys)

[Paul Griffiths]

"Cele" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

> And am now enjoying the beginnings of a relationship of significance
> for the first time in all those years, totally unexpected, and a
> complete delight! Every once in the while good things *do* happen, it
> seems.....

You say the nicest things sometimes. I reckon he knows how lucky he is.


--
Paul Griffiths

[Cele]

On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:50:21 +0100, "Paul Griffiths"
> wrote:

>"Cele" > wrote in message
...
>
><snip>
>
>> And am now enjoying the beginnings of a relationship of significance
>> for the first time in all those years, totally unexpected, and a
>> complete delight! Every once in the while good things *do* happen, it
>> seems.....
>
>You say the nicest things sometimes. I reckon he knows how lucky he is.

I just hope he knows how lucky I feel....

It's quite an amazing thing. I was talking to him all afternoon today,
and you know, it's the loveliest feeling to just -fit- with someone.
Comfortable is sure a part of it, but so is all the rest...humour,
compassion, tenderness, and hell, yeah, excitement as well.

Feeling as sad as I've being feeling, he might've steered clear for
awhile, but he didn't. He got closer and made it clear how much he
cared and wow, I really care for this guy.

My previous experience was with a man whom I loved, but who really
only wanted me at my best and just did everything he could to be away
from me if I wasn't Suzy Sunshine at all times. So it took a bit of
courage to let my guard down with my new love. But he cared and he was
there for me, and that means such a lot.

Well, okay, it *didn't* really take courage, and that's just the
thing. I'm amazed it didn't. But it was the right thing to do.

Cele

[Buster Van Buren]

Christine:

That sucks. I came here and I didn't get a welcome! You guys practically
reamed me a new one when I came on board. Maybe if I had been a woman?
Maybe if only my website had been yellow text on a black background...then
you would have loved me and complimented my flash animation?

Sometimes it just sucks being the smarmiest one in the room.

Hugs and Kisses...

Buster
www.dearbuster.com
www.dearbuster.blogspot.com






"CME" > wrote in message
news:4Cq_c.67650$jZ5.1093@clgrps13...
>
> "Istara" > wrote in message
> .. .
> > I'm not entirely a newbie - I've been lurking since mid-June, or so.
> > Probably would still be just lurking, but I finally had to break cover
> > on the "Dating and Marriage Advice" thread, so I figured I'd better say
> > hello.
> >
> > I am, unfortunately, still in the process of becoming a single mom,
> > after having been with the same man for nearly 15 years (13 of them, so
> > far, married). Our son is 9, smart kid, taking it all much better than
> > his father expected him to, about the way *I* expected. He does better
> > than I do about it, at times. His grades at school, in academics and
> > conduct, have all improved since his dad moved out, he sleeps better,
> > and is generally as happy or happier a child than he was, so... Dad
> > wasn't abusive or anything, he just wasn't 'there' much of the time even
> > when home, the last couple of years.
> >
> > The "process" has been ongoing for the past 10 months, or 15 months,
> > depending on how you look at it (he said he wanted out of the marriage,
> > wanted ME to move out, then took 5 months to make up his mind to move
> > out himself, when I refused), and no end in sight. I was of the opinion
> > that if he wanted a divorce, it was HIS place to deal with the legal
> > headaches. I'm not TOO naive - I DO have a lawyer, and am not letting
> > him push me around on things, but it was his choice, so his
> > responsibility. At any rate...
> >
> > Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
> > the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
> >
> > ~ Dor
>
> No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit back
and
> enjoy it's truly a great place.
>
> Christine
> (Mom of 8 year old twin boys)
>
>

[Betsy]

"Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
news:xEA_c.122673$Fg5.77677@attbi_s53...
> Christine:
>
> That sucks. I came here and I didn't get a welcome! You guys practically
> reamed me a new one when I came on board. Maybe if I had been a woman?
> Maybe if only my website had been yellow text on a black background...then
> you would have loved me and complimented my flash animation?
>
> Sometimes it just sucks being the smarmiest one in the room.
>
> Hugs and Kisses...
>
> Buster
> www.dearbuster.com
> www.dearbuster.blogspot.com
>
>
>
>
>
You would have gotten a welcome if you had posted about being a single
parent, and not advertised your website.

Betsy
>
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:4Cq_c.67650$jZ5.1093@clgrps13...
>>
>> "Istara" > wrote in message
>> .. .
>> > I'm not entirely a newbie - I've been lurking since mid-June, or so.
>> > Probably would still be just lurking, but I finally had to break cover
>> > on the "Dating and Marriage Advice" thread, so I figured I'd better say
>> > hello.
>> >
>> > I am, unfortunately, still in the process of becoming a single mom,
>> > after having been with the same man for nearly 15 years (13 of them, so
>> > far, married). Our son is 9, smart kid, taking it all much better than
>> > his father expected him to, about the way *I* expected. He does better
>> > than I do about it, at times. His grades at school, in academics and
>> > conduct, have all improved since his dad moved out, he sleeps better,
>> > and is generally as happy or happier a child than he was, so... Dad
>> > wasn't abusive or anything, he just wasn't 'there' much of the time
>> > even
>> > when home, the last couple of years.
>> >
>> > The "process" has been ongoing for the past 10 months, or 15 months,
>> > depending on how you look at it (he said he wanted out of the marriage,
>> > wanted ME to move out, then took 5 months to make up his mind to move
>> > out himself, when I refused), and no end in sight. I was of the opinion
>> > that if he wanted a divorce, it was HIS place to deal with the legal
>> > headaches. I'm not TOO naive - I DO have a lawyer, and am not letting
>> > him push me around on things, but it was his choice, so his
>> > responsibility. At any rate...
>> >
>> > Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
>> > the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
>> >
>> > ~ Dor
>>
>> No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit back
> and
>> enjoy it's truly a great place.
>>
>> Christine
>> (Mom of 8 year old twin boys)
>>
>>
>
>

[denanson]

"Buster Van Buren" < wrote in message

> Maybe if I had been a woman?

Hmmm, a sexist agony uncle.

Dennis

[Tiffany]

Ohhh poor buster.......

T
"Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
news:xEA_c.122673$Fg5.77677@attbi_s53...
> Christine:
>
> That sucks. I came here and I didn't get a welcome! You guys practically
> reamed me a new one when I came on board. Maybe if I had been a woman?
> Maybe if only my website had been yellow text on a black background...then
> you would have loved me and complimented my flash animation?
>
> Sometimes it just sucks being the smarmiest one in the room.
>
> Hugs and Kisses...
>
> Buster

[Joelle]

>Maybe if I had been a woman?

Maybe if you hadn't been an ass.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[Paul Griffiths]

"Cele" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:50:21 +0100, "Paul Griffiths"
> > wrote:
> >"Cele" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >> And am now enjoying the beginnings of a relationship of significance
> >> for the first time in all those years, totally unexpected, and a
> >> complete delight! Every once in the while good things *do* happen, it
> >> seems.....
> >
> >You say the nicest things sometimes. I reckon he knows how lucky he is.
>
> I just hope he knows how lucky I feel....

I think he might.

> It's quite an amazing thing. I was talking to him all afternoon today,
> and you know, it's the loveliest feeling to just -fit- with someone.
> Comfortable is sure a part of it, but so is all the rest...humour,
> compassion, tenderness, and hell, yeah, excitement as well.

If I wasn't so happy for you I'd be feeling quite jealous. :-)

> Feeling as sad as I've being feeling, he might've steered clear for
> awhile, but he didn't. He got closer and made it clear how much he
> cared and wow, I really care for this guy.

Sounds like he's a bit short on sense (of the self-protection kind) but the
kind, caring nature probably makes up for it. Bet he said he felt like he
didn't have any choice but to do what he did.

> My previous experience was with a man whom I loved, but who really
> only wanted me at my best and just did everything he could to be away
> from me if I wasn't Suzy Sunshine at all times. So it took a bit of
> courage to let my guard down with my new love. But he cared and he was
> there for me, and that means such a lot.

Comparing and contrasting isn't always a healthy thing but, on occasion, it
helps to have experienced something near one end of the spectrum in order to
appreciate something else.

> Well, okay, it *didn't* really take courage, and that's just the
> thing. I'm amazed it didn't. But it was the right thing to do.

It's interesting how quickly walls collapse when somebody else doesn't even
notice them isn't it?

I'm just glad you still think it was the right thing to do.


--
Paul Griffiths

[Buster Van Buren]

Don't worry Kate.....I'm never leaving. I'll continue to lurk and give
advice to those who need it. Despite your contrary protestations, I know
that you love Buster more than you'll ever admit. Now, if I only could stop
Christine and Tiffany from sending me naked pics of themselves with
www.dearbuster.com scrawled on their chests......

:)

Your favorite advice columnist,

Buster





"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 09:04:29 GMT, "Buster Van Buren"
> > wrote:
>
> >Christine:
> >
> >That sucks. I came here and I didn't get a welcome! You guys
practically
> >reamed me a new one when I came on board. Maybe if I had been a woman?
> >Maybe if only my website had been yellow text on a black
background...then
> >you would have loved me and complimented my flash animation?
> >
> >Sometimes it just sucks being the smarmiest one in the room.
> >
> >Hugs and Kisses...
> >
> >Buster
>
> Awww... don't tell me you're leaving us. Boo hoo... I'll miss you!
>
> 'Kate
>

[Tiffany]

"Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
news:FnN_c.3367$vy.477@attbi_s52...
> Don't worry Kate.....I'm never leaving. I'll continue to lurk and give
> advice to those who need it. Despite your contrary protestations, I know
> that you love Buster more than you'll ever admit. Now, if I only could
stop
> Christine and Tiffany from sending me naked pics of themselves with
> l(snipped)scrawled on their chests......
>
> :)
>
> Your favorite advice columnist,
>
> Buster
>
>
>
>
>
>

You will do anything to get that link into a post, won't you?

T

[lm]

On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:33:57 GMT, "Buster Van Buren"
> wrote:

>Don't worry Kate.....I'm never leaving. I'll continue to lurk and give
>advice to those who need it.

Whether they ask for it or not. Sorry buster, but lurking means not
yakking.

lm

[CME]

"Cele" > wrote in message
...
> On Sat, 4 Sep 2004 22:50:21 +0100, "Paul Griffiths"
> > wrote:
>
> >"Cele" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> ><snip>
> >
> >> And am now enjoying the beginnings of a relationship of significance
> >> for the first time in all those years, totally unexpected, and a
> >> complete delight! Every once in the while good things *do* happen, it
> >> seems.....
> >
> >You say the nicest things sometimes. I reckon he knows how lucky he is.
>
> I just hope he knows how lucky I feel....
>
> It's quite an amazing thing. I was talking to him all afternoon today,
> and you know, it's the loveliest feeling to just -fit- with someone.
> Comfortable is sure a part of it, but so is all the rest...humour,
> compassion, tenderness, and hell, yeah, excitement as well.
>
> Feeling as sad as I've being feeling, he might've steered clear for
> awhile, but he didn't. He got closer and made it clear how much he
> cared and wow, I really care for this guy.
>
> My previous experience was with a man whom I loved, but who really
> only wanted me at my best and just did everything he could to be away
> from me if I wasn't Suzy Sunshine at all times. So it took a bit of
> courage to let my guard down with my new love. But he cared and he was
> there for me, and that means such a lot.
>
> Well, okay, it *didn't* really take courage, and that's just the
> thing. I'm amazed it didn't. But it was the right thing to do.
>
> Cele

You took the words right out of my mouth. :)

Christine

[CME]

"Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
news:xEA_c.122673$Fg5.77677@attbi_s53...
> Christine:
>
> That sucks. I came here and I didn't get a welcome! You guys practically
> reamed me a new one when I came on board. Maybe if I had been a woman?
> Maybe if only my website had been yellow text on a black background...then
> you would have loved me and complimented my flash animation?
>
> Sometimes it just sucks being the smarmiest one in the room.
>
> Hugs and Kisses...
>
> Buster
> www.dearbuster.com
> www.dearbuster.blogspot.com
>
>

Perhaps had you introduced yourself and offered a bit of information about
yourself you might have been welcomed the way you would have liked. Even
lurking, and of course taking the time to read the FAQ would have helped as
well. But from what I can tell, you didn't even mention you were a single
parent so I question why you're even here.

Christine

PS: In that FAQ thingy, it says it's polite to BOTTOM post. Thanks.

>
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:4Cq_c.67650$jZ5.1093@clgrps13...
> >
> > "Istara" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> > > I'm not entirely a newbie - I've been lurking since mid-June, or so.
> > > Probably would still be just lurking, but I finally had to break cover
> > > on the "Dating and Marriage Advice" thread, so I figured I'd better
say
> > > hello.
> > >
> > > I am, unfortunately, still in the process of becoming a single mom,
> > > after having been with the same man for nearly 15 years (13 of them,
so
> > > far, married). Our son is 9, smart kid, taking it all much better than
> > > his father expected him to, about the way *I* expected. He does better
> > > than I do about it, at times. His grades at school, in academics and
> > > conduct, have all improved since his dad moved out, he sleeps better,
> > > and is generally as happy or happier a child than he was, so... Dad
> > > wasn't abusive or anything, he just wasn't 'there' much of the time
even
> > > when home, the last couple of years.
> > >
> > > The "process" has been ongoing for the past 10 months, or 15 months,
> > > depending on how you look at it (he said he wanted out of the
marriage,
> > > wanted ME to move out, then took 5 months to make up his mind to move
> > > out himself, when I refused), and no end in sight. I was of the
opinion
> > > that if he wanted a divorce, it was HIS place to deal with the legal
> > > headaches. I'm not TOO naive - I DO have a lawyer, and am not letting
> > > him push me around on things, but it was his choice, so his
> > > responsibility. At any rate...
> > >
> > > Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
> > > the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
> > >
> > > ~ Dor
> >
> > No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit back
> and
> > enjoy it's truly a great place.
> >
> > Christine
> > (Mom of 8 year old twin boys)
> >
> >
>
>

[CME]

"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 5 Sep 2004 22:56:32 -0400, "Tiffany" >
> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
> >news:FnN_c.3367$vy.477@attbi_s52...
> >> Don't worry Kate.....I'm never leaving. I'll continue to lurk and give
> >> advice to those who need it. Despite your contrary protestations, I
know
> >> that you love Buster more than you'll ever admit. Now, if I only could
> >stop
> >> Christine and Tiffany from sending me naked pics of themselves with
> >> l(snipped)scrawled on their chests......
> >>
> >> :)
> >>
> >> Your favorite advice columnist,
> >>
> >> Buster
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >You will do anything to get that link into a post, won't you?
> >
> >T
>
> maybe yahoo would like to know that he's violating the FAQ of the
> group. They tend to frown on that.
>
> 'Kate

Go get em Kate!!! Btw, asshole, I could moon you with Kiss this Buster
written on it, that's more my style. ;)

Christine

[Buster Van Buren]

Sorry Kate. Incredibly happily married to a wonderful girl. No one stands
a chance to steal me away from her.
I know this will "shock" many of the members here, but the reason I came
here wasn't because I had single parent problems, but because I know many
single parents and divorced non-parents who have no clue as to how to get
back into the dating scene or what to expect in the "marketplace" after x
number of years being married. Either that, or they are in destructive
relationships that they don't know how to get out of. Personally, if my
marriage ever ended, I wouldn't have a relationship ever again. It's would
be too much trouble and too much heartache to open myself up to someone
again, and at my age, it wouldn't be worth it. Besides which, I could never
trust that a girl wanted me instead of my fame and fortune. I actually got
a letter from someone from Guam last week. Once you've got fans in Guam,
then it's hard for a girl to really compete. :)

Buster

"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 05 Sep 2004 23:33:57 GMT, "Buster Van Buren"
> > wrote:
>
> >Don't worry Kate.....I'm never leaving. I'll continue to lurk and give
> >advice to those who need it. Despite your contrary protestations, I know
> >that you love Buster more than you'll ever admit. Now, if I only could
stop
> >Christine and Tiffany from sending me naked pics of themselves with
> >www.dearbuster.com scrawled on their chests......
> >
> >:)
> >
> >Your favorite advice columnist,
> >
> >Buster
>
>
> Oh ****.. by the way, does your wife know you're divorcing her to run
> away with me? <wink> <smooch>
>
> 'Kate
>

[Buster Van Buren]

Pretty much Tiff....The more people that come to my site, the more people
write me. The more people that write me, the broader the topics I can
address. The broader the topics, the more people I can help. The more
people I help, the bigger my head gets. It's a long and dangerous road I'm
traveling, but fortunately I've got really wide doorways.

Buster

oh wait...almost forgot....

www.dearbuster.com
www.dearbuster.blogspot.com


Wouldn't want to prove you wrong :)


"Tiffany" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
> news:FnN_c.3367$vy.477@attbi_s52...
> > Don't worry Kate.....I'm never leaving. I'll continue to lurk and give
> > advice to those who need it. Despite your contrary protestations, I
know
> > that you love Buster more than you'll ever admit. Now, if I only could
> stop
> > Christine and Tiffany from sending me naked pics of themselves with
> > l(snipped)scrawled on their chests......
> >
> > :)
> >
> > Your favorite advice columnist,
> >
> > Buster
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> You will do anything to get that link into a post, won't you?
>
> T
>
>

[Buster Van Buren]

Sorry....I'm more of a "top" than a "bottom"....scrolling down just makes me
dizzy....

B

"CME" > wrote in message
news:6cS_c.118706$X12.115579@edtnps84...
>
> "Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
> news:xEA_c.122673$Fg5.77677@attbi_s53...
> > Christine:
> >
> > That sucks. I came here and I didn't get a welcome! You guys
practically
> > reamed me a new one when I came on board. Maybe if I had been a woman?
> > Maybe if only my website had been yellow text on a black
background...then
> > you would have loved me and complimented my flash animation?
> >
> > Sometimes it just sucks being the smarmiest one in the room.
> >
> > Hugs and Kisses...
> >
> > Buster
> > www.dearbuster.com
> > www.dearbuster.blogspot.com
> >
> >
>
> Perhaps had you introduced yourself and offered a bit of information about
> yourself you might have been welcomed the way you would have liked. Even
> lurking, and of course taking the time to read the FAQ would have helped
as
> well. But from what I can tell, you didn't even mention you were a single
> parent so I question why you're even here.
>
> Christine
>
> PS: In that FAQ thingy, it says it's polite to BOTTOM post. Thanks.
>
> >
> > "CME" > wrote in message
> > news:4Cq_c.67650$jZ5.1093@clgrps13...
> > >
> > > "Istara" > wrote in message
> > > .. .
> > > > I'm not entirely a newbie - I've been lurking since mid-June, or so.
> > > > Probably would still be just lurking, but I finally had to break
cover
> > > > on the "Dating and Marriage Advice" thread, so I figured I'd better
> say
> > > > hello.
> > > >
> > > > I am, unfortunately, still in the process of becoming a single mom,
> > > > after having been with the same man for nearly 15 years (13 of them,
> so
> > > > far, married). Our son is 9, smart kid, taking it all much better
than
> > > > his father expected him to, about the way *I* expected. He does
better
> > > > than I do about it, at times. His grades at school, in academics and
> > > > conduct, have all improved since his dad moved out, he sleeps
better,
> > > > and is generally as happy or happier a child than he was, so... Dad
> > > > wasn't abusive or anything, he just wasn't 'there' much of the time
> even
> > > > when home, the last couple of years.
> > > >
> > > > The "process" has been ongoing for the past 10 months, or 15 months,
> > > > depending on how you look at it (he said he wanted out of the
> marriage,
> > > > wanted ME to move out, then took 5 months to make up his mind to
move
> > > > out himself, when I refused), and no end in sight. I was of the
> opinion
> > > > that if he wanted a divorce, it was HIS place to deal with the legal
> > > > headaches. I'm not TOO naive - I DO have a lawyer, and am not
letting
> > > > him push me around on things, but it was his choice, so his
> > > > responsibility. At any rate...
> > > >
> > > > Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back
into
> > > > the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
> > > >
> > > > ~ Dor
> > >
> > > No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit
back
> > and
> > > enjoy it's truly a great place.
> > >
> > > Christine
> > > (Mom of 8 year old twin boys)
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>

[Joelle]

>I know this will "shock" many of the members here, but the reason I came
>here wasn't because I had single parent problems,

Doesn't shock me.

> but because I know many
>single parents and divorced non-parents who have no clue as to how to get
>back into the dating scene or what to expect in the "marketplace" after x
>number of years being marrie

And you thought this was a singles looking for a date place? And you think
being married makes you an expert on romance after being married and divorced
or widowed? In other words, you have nothing of value to offer anyone here.
Glad to hear you admit it

>, I wouldn't have a relationship ever again. It's would
>be too much trouble and too much heartache to open myself up to someone
>again,

oh, that's what qualifies you to give advice. You have self-confidence issues
and have no idea why your current wife puts up with you and are know that
nobody else would. Well that's hopeful to see such self-wareness


>Besides which, I could never
>trust that a girl wanted me instead of my fame and fortune.

Yea. Right.

Well it's nice to have an entertaining troll anyway

Joelle


The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[lm]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:31:43 GMT, "Buster Van Buren"
> wrote:

>Sorry Kate. Incredibly happily married to a wonderful girl. No one stands
>a chance to steal me away from her.
>I know this will "shock" many of the members here, but the reason I came
>here wasn't because I had single parent problems, but because I know many
>single parents and divorced non-parents who have no clue as to how to get
>back into the dating scene or what to expect in the "marketplace" after x
>number of years being married. Either that, or they are in destructive
>relationships that they don't know how to get out of. Personally, if my
>marriage ever ended, I wouldn't have a relationship ever again. It's would
>be too much trouble and too much heartache to open myself up to someone
>again, and at my age, it wouldn't be worth it. Besides which, I could never
>trust that a girl wanted me instead of my fame and fortune. I actually got
>a letter from someone from Guam last week. Once you've got fans in Guam,
>then it's hard for a girl to really compete. :)

Buster thanks so much for your concern but this is a single parenting
group not a single dating group -- we all post here about parenting
issues. Here's your hat.

lm

[lm]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 08:34:28 GMT, "Buster Van Buren"
> wrote:

>I've got really wide doorways.

I'll bet.

lm

[Paul Griffiths]

"Buster Van Buren" > wrote in message
news:9kV_c.384551$%_6.197342@attbi_s01...

> Sorry....I'm more of a "top" than a "bottom"....scrolling down just makes
me
> dizzy....

The concept of snipping unnecessary text in a reply is an unknown one to
you, it would appear.


--
Paul Griffiths

[Istara]

Cele wrote:

> On Fri, 03 Sep 2004 14:46:33 -0400, Istara
> > wrote:
>
> [snip intro]
>
>
>>Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
>>the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
>
>
> Nice to meet you, Dor. I'm Cele, 45, daughters 19 & nearly 17. I was
> with my ex 17 years, 1 of them married, and have been on my own lo
> these past 12.
>
> And am now enjoying the beginnings of a relationship of significance
> for the first time in all those years, totally unexpected, and a
> complete delight! Every once in the while good things *do* happen, it
> seems.....
>
> [grin]
>
> Cele

Congratulations! I hope it works out enough the way you want it to keep
it wonderful, and enough differently to keep it interesting. :)

I'm kind of enjoying being on my own, now, at least mostly. It's kind of
strange - I went from being a student to being a wife, with little time
between. Prior to the separation, I don't think I'd ever really been on
my own, before. If it were just me, now, I don't know that I could do
it. Having my son to look out for, though, I *WILL* make it, one way or
another, because he deserves a strong mom that can do what she has to
instead of just giving up. I'm learning. :)

Congrats, again, and thank you for the welcome.

Dor

[Istara]

CME wrote:

> "Istara" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
<SNIP>
>
>>Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
>>the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
>>
>>~ Dor
>
>
> No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit back and
> enjoy it's truly a great place.
>
> Christine
> (Mom of 8 year old twin boys)

{grin} Okay, so maybe I won't crawl back into the woodwork. Is it okay
if I sit quietly in the corner for a while? Work on my crocheting and
listen/read a bit? :)

Thank you for the welcome - it's nice to have people to talk to that can
actually understand what my life is like, sometimes. And that aren't
going to sit there and contribute to my self-pity. Empathy without pity
- best thing I've seen, so far. Wish my mother could figure out the balance.

Dor

[Istara]

Paul Griffiths wrote:

> "Istara" > wrote in message
> .. .
>
> <snip>
>
>>Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
>>the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
>
>
> Welcome.
>
> It's rather nice to talk to lurkers. Glad your son is deal with things so
> well. Fingers crossed it continues that way.
>

Thank you. :) I think he'll be okay - his dad and I have worked hard to
make sure our problems don't impact his life any more than they
absolutely have to, and to make it all as positive an experience as we
can. He's happy and has said that he likes things this way - he misses
having Dad in the house every night, but he gets more attention from me
now that Dad's not living here to distract me, and Dad pays a LOT more
attention to him - actually does things with him - instead of just
ignoring him like he used to do us both.

He'll be okay... Better than me, probably. I hope. It gets better - I
keep telling myself that. One day at a time. Anyway...

Thank you for the welcome.

Dor

[Istara]

denanson wrote:

> "Istara" < wrote in message
>
>>Hello, nice to meet you all,
>
>
> Hello and greetings from Ireland.
>
> Dennis, three boys
>

Thank you, and greetings back. :)

Dor
(one son, age 9)

[CME]

"Istara" > wrote in message
. ..
>
>
> CME wrote:
>
> > "Istara" > wrote in message
> > .. .
> >
> <SNIP>
> >
> >>Hello, nice to meet you all, and I think I'm going to crawl back into
> >>the woodwork now and lurk some more. :)
> >>
> >>~ Dor
> >
> >
> > No we won't let you. Welcome to the group from Alberta, Canada sit back
and
> > enjoy it's truly a great place.
> >
> > Christine
> > (Mom of 8 year old twin boys)
>
> {grin} Okay, so maybe I won't crawl back into the woodwork. Is it okay
> if I sit quietly in the corner for a while? Work on my crocheting and
> listen/read a bit? :)

Mosdef.

>
> Thank you for the welcome - it's nice to have people to talk to that can
> actually understand what my life is like, sometimes. And that aren't
> going to sit there and contribute to my self-pity. Empathy without pity
> - best thing I've seen, so far. Wish my mother could figure out the
balance.
>
> Dor

Yeah you and me both. You'd think after so many years she'd figure out when
I phone, just listen, don't negate what I'm going through. According to my
Grandmother, my Mom has a short memory, I guess she can't remember what it
was like to be a single parent (they divorced when I was 8 and got back
together a couple years later.) Sooo I rarely go to my parents for support,
sometimes I just need to vent and get a clearer picture on a situation. Yay
for friends and of course this group has been invaluable to me over the
years. :)

Christine

[Cele]

On Mon, 06 Sep 2004 18:42:55 -0400, Istara
> wrote:

>Congratulations! I hope it works out enough the way you want it to keep
>it wonderful, and enough differently to keep it interesting. :)

Thanks. :-) So do I. I have a great deal of optimism. I've been 12
years on my own, without any interest at all in a relationship for
most of it (my kids kept me pretty busy), and I certainly wasn't
'looking'. This just...happened....and I'm still very glad it did.

>I'm kind of enjoying being on my own, now, at least mostly. It's kind of
>strange - I went from being a student to being a wife, with little time
>between. Prior to the separation, I don't think I'd ever really been on
>my own, before.

I understand. I married at 19, between 3rd & 4th year university. I'd
lived in dorms right up almost 'til then.

>If it were just me, now, I don't know that I could do
>it. Having my son to look out for, though, I *WILL* make it, one way or
>another, because he deserves a strong mom that can do what she has to
>instead of just giving up. I'm learning. :)

You're right, you will make it. Lots of times I felt like I wouldn't
and couldn't, but had no real choice, so I did. And I'm glad I did,
'cause now the girls are doing reasonably well (my youngest has, as
she says, 'issues'! LOL). Maybe my subconscious decided it was finally
safe to let my guard down. I don't know. But what a lovely experience
this is. :-) May it last a very, very long time.

>Congrats, again, and thank you for the welcome.

And thanks to you. :-)

Cele