Re: Runaway teenagers [very long reply]

[Joelle]

I don't believe any of this. Either this is a troll, or you have SOOO many
problems that a newsgroup is not the place for you to find help. Get thee to a
therapist.
>Keep the thread going if you like as it is a good sounding board for me and
>others.

Yea, which makes me think my first inclination was correct. If so, shame on
you for making Cele go through her own trama again just to help you. If not,
go get some help now.

Joelle

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[Ms Louise Clayton]

Joelle
my blood ran cold when I read what you wrote.
How dare you I am going thru things like this and as you can see other
parents like Cele have been thru similar traumas
i hope only that you never go thru traumas such as mine or Celes.
again all I can say is how dare you,
these types of replies remove the purpose of the support chat lines, that is
to be able to air your problems and look for solutions without prejudice or
ignorant people making comments like you have.
they are the types of comments that cause people to fall deeper into the
depths of despair and commit suicide if unstable.
shame
Chloe

"Joelle" > wrote in message
...
> I don't believe any of this. Either this is a troll, or you have SOOO
many
> problems that a newsgroup is not the place for you to find help. Get thee
to a
> therapist.
> >Keep the thread going if you like as it is a good sounding board for me
and
> >others.
>
> Yea, which makes me think my first inclination was correct. If so, shame
on
> you for making Cele go through her own trama again just to help you. If
not,
> go get some help now.
>
> Joelle
>
> The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
> Augustine
> Joelle

[Purchgdss]

>Joelle
>my blood ran cold when I read what you wrote.
>How dare you I am going thru things like this and as you can see other
>parents like Cele have been thru similar traumas
>i hope only that you never go thru traumas such as mine or Celes.
>again all I can say is how dare you,
>these types of replies remove the purpose of the support chat lines, that is
>to be able to air your problems and look for solutions without prejudice or
>ignorant people making comments like you have.
>they are the types of comments that cause people to fall deeper into the
>depths of despair and commit suicide if unstable.
>shame
>Chloe

Chloe, you obviously haven't read the FAQ before you posted or you'd know that
your statements about this newsgroup are flat out wrong.

I tend to agree with Joelle on this issue, if you have as many issues as you
mentioned, a single parents newsgroup is not the help you need. You need
INTENSE therapy.

This is NOT a "feel good, support you stupidly just because you're a single
parent" group. This a group that freely speaks their minds although it's not
always what you want to hear, sometimes it's what you need.

Personally, I'd go elsewhere for the "feel good" BS.... I like the real world
common sense here.

Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

[Joelle]

>i hope only that you never go thru traumas such as mine or Celes.

Well I hope you never go through the traumas I have been through. You think
you are the only one who has suffered in the world?

>ll I can say is how dare you

You asked, I gave you my perspective. Something about your story doesn't ring
true. I don't believe you are being truthful, either about all the trauma, or
your part in it. You refuse to take any responsiblity and blame it on some
boy. If your home was as happy as you say, no boy would have that kind of
power over your daughter.

>urpose of the support chat lines, that is


This is not a chat line. This is usenet.

>hat is
>to be able to air your problems and look for solutions without prejudice or
>ignorant people making comments

Hahaha, usenet is where lots of ignorant people make comments, which is where
this should be the last place you should be seeking help. If you are for real,
you probably dont' want to go to therapy because a therapist will make you face
your own responsibility in this.

Joelle

The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[Karen O'Mara]

(Purchgdss) wrote in message >...
> >Joelle
> Chloe, you obviously haven't read the FAQ before you posted or you'd know that
> your statements about this newsgroup are flat out wrong.
>
> I tend to agree with Joelle on this issue, if you have as many issues as you
> mentioned, a single parents newsgroup is not the help you need. You need
> INTENSE therapy.
>
> This is NOT a "feel good, support you stupidly just because you're a single
> parent" group. This a group that freely speaks their minds although it's not
> always what you want to hear, sometimes it's what you need.
>
> Personally, I'd go elsewhere for the "feel good" BS.... I like the real world
> common sense here.

It was wrong to toss Chloe out like that. Perhaps, Chloe is receiving
help elsewhere, too. Nobody should judge who can post or not.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

(Joelle) wrote in message >...
> Yea, which makes me think my first inclination was correct. If so, shame on
> you for making Cele go through her own trama again just to help you. If not,
> go get some help now.

You can't label someone a troll just because you think they have too
many problems. The original post was well in the means of
appropriateness. And you don't need to protect Cele from reaching out
to help someone in particular or in general. I wish I had read Cele's
post before I posted my advice. It was very insightful and I think she
saw something in the original post that I didn't.

Karen

[Joelle]

>You can't label someone a troll just because you think they have too
>many problems

Well, of course you never think ANYthing I say or do is right. But I stand by
my first inclination. I don't think this person is real.

The way she dismissed the advice she got and then told us to go ahead and
discussed her problems clinched it for me. Someone who is worried about their
kid isn't interested in reading people discuss their situation.

>. And you don't need to protect Cele

I know. You are the only one who is allowed to protect people. Usually from
me. Blah blah blah

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[Purchgdss]

>
>It was wrong to toss Chloe out like that. Perhaps, Chloe is receiving
>help elsewhere, too. Nobody should judge who can post or not.
>
>

I didn't judge who could post, I simply said she obviously didn't read the FAQ
because then she would have known that "feel good" BS isn't to be expected
here. She's free to post anything she wants and we're free to respond with
honesty in our feelings. Again below is her expectation that she will receive
"feel good" support.

>again all I can say is how dare you,
>these types of replies remove the purpose of the support chat lines, that is
>to be able to air your problems and look for solutions without prejudice or
>ignorant people making comments like you have.
>they are the types of comments that cause people to fall deeper into the
>depths of despair and commit suicide if unstable.
>shame
>Chloe

Seems pretty clear to me that she didn't read the FAQ or lurked for a bit to
see what the group is about. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't jump on
others when they tell you something you don't want to hear.


Just my 2 cents.........
Christine

[lm]

On 15 Sep 2004 00:59:25 GMT, (Purchgdss) wrote:

>>
>>It was wrong to toss Chloe out like that. Perhaps, Chloe is receiving
>>help elsewhere, too. Nobody should judge who can post or not.
>>
>>
>
>I didn't judge who could post, I simply said she obviously didn't read the FAQ
>because then she would have known that "feel good" BS isn't to be expected
>here.

I've never read a usenet faq. Search maybe, but please. It's usenet.

lm

[Karen O'Mara]

(Joelle) wrote in message >...
> >You can't label someone a troll just because you think they have too
> >many problems
>
> Well, of course you never think ANYthing I say or do is right. But I stand by
> my first inclination. I don't think this person is real.
>
> The way she dismissed the advice she got and then told us to go ahead and
> discussed her problems clinched it for me. Someone who is worried about their
> kid isn't interested in reading people discuss their situation.
>
> >. And you don't need to protect Cele
>
> I know. You are the only one who is allowed to protect people. Usually from
> me. Blah blah blah

I think Chloe is real. Googling her posting history tells me she's for real.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

(Purchgdss) wrote in message >...
> Seems pretty clear to me that she didn't read the FAQ or lurked for a bit to
> see what the group is about. Nothing wrong with that, but then don't jump on
> others when they tell you something you don't want to hear.

But, she said she tried so many things... police, intervention, etc.,
already. She sounded frantic and in desparation. And, if she is real,
it's a shame for us to tell her to "go get therapy" and ask "why
didn't you read the FAQ?," etc.

Karen

[Joelle]

>And, if she is real,
>it's a shame for us to tell her to "go get therapy"

You have to be kidding.

Then again, you think you can tell someone is a child molester just by looking
at them. Yea, much better people with multiple problems listen to people like
you than see a therapist.

But I'm the bad poster....

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[Joelle]

When I first started my job, I would get occasionally get these calls from
these people with terribly tragic stories or problems, and they usually
involved some sort of sexual dimmension. After consulation with some
counselers, I learned that there are people who get their kicks calling people
in the helping profession with these stories. As one pro bluntly told me "You
know, Joelle, this guy probably had his dick in his hand the whole time you
were trying to *help* him." I eventually wised up and got a sense of this and
learned not to talk to people with these kinds of issues anonymously. So you
can call me hard hearted, but I prefer not to be part of someone's
masterbation fantasy.

And if I'm wrong, I still say, these issues are too serious for a bunch of
yahoos on the internet.

I remain unapolgetically, Joelle i'ts MS BiTCH to you :-)

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[Karen O'Mara]

(Joelle) wrote in message >...
> >And, if she is real,
> >it's a shame for us to tell her to "go get therapy"
>
> You have to be kidding.
>
> Then again, you think you can tell someone is a child molester just by looking
> at them. Yea, much better people with multiple problems listen to people like
> you than see a therapist.
>
> But I'm the bad poster....

I didn't say you were a bad poster. And I don't know what you are
talking about when you say I think someone is a child molester ...
what are you talking about?

And, you snipped most of my post... which doesn't say *not* to get
therapy. It just says it's a shame to push her away from this
newsgroup.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

(Joelle) wrote in message >...
> When I first started my job, I would get occasionally get these calls from
> these people with terribly tragic stories or problems, and they usually
> involved some sort of sexual dimmension. After consulation with some
> counselers, I learned that there are people who get their kicks calling people
> in the helping profession with these stories. As one pro bluntly told me "You
> know, Joelle, this guy probably had his dick in his hand the whole time you
> were trying to *help* him." I eventually wised up and got a sense of this and
> learned not to talk to people with these kinds of issues anonymously. So you
> can call me hard hearted, but I prefer not to be part of someone's
> masterbation fantasy.
>
> And if I'm wrong, I still say, these issues are too serious for a bunch of
> yahoos on the internet.
>
> I remain unapolgetically, Joelle i'ts MS BiTCH to you :-)

Well, this certainly is an anonymous forum so it's hard to make the
call to ignore issues based on that criterion.

Yeah, there are people who probably are guilty of what you say.
Probably a lot. I think Scott Peterson's guilty, too... but I would
rather see him go free, than an innocent person go to prison. Sort of
a dumb analogy, but why not believe people here? Unless it's really
obvious they're a hoax, the only thing that is spent is a little pride
or embarrassment.

otoh, it's good to have someone from all sides presenting
advice/arguments, too. There's room for all of it, I guess. If there
is enough people to welcome intruders, it's not that big of a deal.

Karen

[Paul Griffiths]

"Ms Louise Clayton" > wrote in message
...
> "Joelle" > wrote in message
> ...

> > I don't believe any of this. Either this is a troll, or you have SOOO
> > many problems that a newsgroup is not the place for you to find help.
> > Get thee to a therapist.

> > > Keep the thread going if you like as it is a good sounding board for
> > > me and others.
> >
> > Yea, which makes me think my first inclination was correct. If so,
> > shame on you for making Cele go through her own trama again just
> > to help you. If not, go get some help now.
>
> Joelle
> my blood ran cold when I read what you wrote.

First let's be clear that I'm not jumping on any band wagons and certainly
not defending or ganging up on anyone here, okay?

My opinion is that if you truly feel this strongly about what someone you
don't know and will probably never meet has written in a public forum, which
is open to all and sundry to express whatever views they like, then maybe
this isn't the right medium for you to be using at this time.

To get the best out of a newsgroup, any newsgroup, you need the skin of a
rhino, the back of a duck and a super-sized filtering system that will allow
you to pick out only those things that are helpful to you.

> How dare you I am going thru things like this and as you can see other
> parents like Cele have been thru similar traumas

She only has what you have written to inform her opinions, as do we all.
IMHO whatever those opinions are they are perfectly valid, at least at some
level, even if they do not match those of others or what you would, perhaps,
have expected. Right, wrong or something else, we're all entitled to our
opinions and we're all entitled to express them here. I don't have a
problem with that myself as I often find opinions I'd rather not have heard
to be the most useful in the long run.

> i hope only that you never go thru traumas such as mine or Celes.
> again all I can say is how dare you,

Big assumption here, I think. Do you actually know for certain that Joelle
*hasn't* had experiences that have been equivalently traumatic for her?

> these types of replies remove the purpose of the support chat lines, that
is
> to be able to air your problems and look for solutions without prejudice
or
> ignorant people making comments like you have.

As a point of information only, this newsgroup is not in any way moderated
or controlled so it's up to you to filter out posts you find unhelpful.

> they are the types of comments that cause people to fall deeper into the
> depths of despair and commit suicide if unstable.

My opinion, for what it's worth is that a public forum like a newsgroup
probably isn't the best place for someone who is that unstable to be seeking
help.

> shame

In you opinion, of course. Other will do doubt choose to think differently.
That's the way of the world and this group is no different.

For myself I've leaned to take good advice from wherever it comes, always
assuming I recognise it as good of course. That's the tricky bit.

You have a hard road ahead but you've coped well in the past so I think
you'll be fine. I wish you luck though. A little good luck never hurt
anyone.


--
Paul Griffiths

[Paul Griffiths]

"Joelle" > wrote in message
...

> When I first started my job, I would get occasionally get these calls from
> these people with terribly tragic stories or problems, and they usually
> involved some sort of sexual dimmension. After consulation with some
> counselers, I learned that there are people who get their kicks calling
people
> in the helping profession with these stories. As one pro bluntly told me
"You
> know, Joelle, this guy probably had his dick in his hand the whole time
you
> were trying to *help* him." I eventually wised up and got a sense of this
and
> learned not to talk to people with these kinds of issues anonymously. So
you
> can call me hard hearted, but I prefer not to be part of someone's
> masterbation fantasy.

I agree that the world is full of strange people but, for myself, I'd prefer
to allow someone the benefit of the doubt, especially on Usenet as it really
doesn't cost me anything at all.

Don't fall into the sort of trap that police sometimes do of thinking that
everyone has criminal intentions purely because most of the folks they see
on a daily basis have.

> And if I'm wrong, I still say, these issues are too serious for a bunch of
> yahoos on the internet.

I'm pretty much with you on this one. Advising someone on the basis of a
few posts is fraught with difficulties. Similarly, some pieces of advice
*are* only likely to be useful if you know a lot about the person giving the
advice.

> I remain unapolgetically, Joelle i'ts MS BiTCH to you :-)

MS BiTCH it is then. LOL


--
Paul Griffiths

[Paul Griffiths]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> (Joelle) wrote in message
>...

> > When I first started my job, I would get occasionally get these calls
from
> > these people with terribly tragic stories or problems, and they usually
> > involved some sort of sexual dimmension. After consulation with some
> > counselers, I learned that there are people who get their kicks calling
people
> > in the helping profession with these stories. As one pro bluntly told
me "You
> > know, Joelle, this guy probably had his dick in his hand the whole time
you
> > were trying to *help* him." I eventually wised up and got a sense of
this and
> > learned not to talk to people with these kinds of issues anonymously.
So you
> > can call me hard hearted, but I prefer not to be part of someone's
> > masterbation fantasy.
> >
> > And if I'm wrong, I still say, these issues are too serious for a bunch
of
> > yahoos on the internet.
> >
> > I remain unapolgetically, Joelle i'ts MS BiTCH to you :-)
>
> Well, this certainly is an anonymous forum so it's hard to make the
> call to ignore issues based on that criterion.

It *can* be anonymous but many who post here are probably easily traced.
Something for everyone to bear in mind I'd say.

> Yeah, there are people who probably are guilty of what you say.
> Probably a lot. I think Scott Peterson's guilty, too... but I would
> rather see him go free, than an innocent person go to prison. Sort of
> a dumb analogy, but why not believe people here? Unless it's really
> obvious they're a hoax, the only thing that is spent is a little pride
> or embarrassment.

I agree 100% and I don't feel at all embarrassed at replying to something
that turns out to be a hoax. I use the Net for entertainment as much as
anything else so it's all grist to my mill. :-)

> otoh, it's good to have someone from all sides presenting
> advice/arguments, too. There's room for all of it, I guess. If there
> is enough people to welcome intruders, it's not that big of a deal.

Agreed again. Room for all works for me.


--
Paul Griffiths

[Paul Griffiths]

"Joelle" > wrote in message
...

<snip>

> >. And you don't need to protect Cele
>
> I know. You are the only one who is allowed to protect people. Usually
from
> me. Blah blah blah

If you two were in my class you'd be standing in the corridor around about
now. Tut!


--
Paul Griffiths :-)

[Karen O'Mara]

(Karen O'Mara) wrote in message >...
> (Joelle) wrote in message >...
> > >And, if she is real,
> > >it's a shame for us to tell her to "go get therapy"
> >
> > You have to be kidding.
> >
> > Then again, you think you can tell someone is a child molester just by looking
> > at them. Yea, much better people with multiple problems listen to people like
> > you than see a therapist.
> >
> > But I'm the bad poster....
>
> I didn't say you were a bad poster. And I don't know what you are
> talking about when you say I think someone is a child molester ...
> what are you talking about?
>
> And, you snipped most of my post... which doesn't say *not* to get
> therapy. It just says it's a shame to push her away from this
> newsgroup.

Hey Joelle, you never answered my question about what you meant when
you said that I could tell someone is a child molester just by looking
at them? Please enlighten me. I have no idea what you meant or what
you were talking about.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

"Paul Griffiths" > wrote in message >...

> If you two were in my class you'd be standing in the corridor around about
> now. Tut!

ha. good one. Funny thing ... Joelle and I attended the same college
and at the same time, too, I think. She majored in theology (just a
guess) and I majored in party (but I changed my major in my Jr. year
after transferring to a univ. in No. Calif.)

Karen

[Paul Griffiths]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "Paul Griffiths" > wrote in message
>...
>
> > If you two were in my class you'd be standing in the corridor around
about
> > now. Tut!
>
> ha. good one. Funny thing ... Joelle and I attended the same college
> and at the same time, too, I think. She majored in theology (just a
> guess) and I majored in party (but I changed my major in my Jr. year
> after transferring to a univ. in No. Calif.)

That's interesting. No really, it is.


--
Paul Griffiths

[CME]

"Joelle" > wrote in message
...
> >She majored in theology (just a
>>> guess)
>
> As usual, wrong again. I majored in sociology. You don't know anything
> about
> me.
>
> Joelle
> The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
> Augustine
> Joelle

Which is a good thing, sounds like she'd just use it against you anyways.
Sheesh.

Christine

[Karen O'Mara]

"CME" > wrote in message news:<D424d.64466$KU5.55845@edtnps89>...

> Which is a good thing, sounds like she'd just use it against you anyways.
> Sheesh.

What did I ever do to you? What did I ever do to Joelle, anyway?

My guess of theology was pretty close to sociology (or whatever she
said). There were a few theology students there, and since Joelle is
currently a pastor, it was a good guess. It certainly wasn't a
slanderous comment, unlike things that were said in my direction.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

(Karen O'Mara) wrote in message >...
> (Karen O'Mara) wrote in message >...
> > (Joelle) wrote in message >...
> > > >And, if she is real,
> > > >it's a shame for us to tell her to "go get therapy"
> > >
> > > You have to be kidding.
> > >
> > > Then again, you think you can tell someone is a child molester just by looking
> > > at them. Yea, much better people with multiple problems listen to people like
> > > you than see a therapist.
> > >
> > > But I'm the bad poster....
> >
> > I didn't say you were a bad poster. And I don't know what you are
> > talking about when you say I think someone is a child molester ...
> > what are you talking about?
> >
> > And, you snipped most of my post... which doesn't say *not* to get
> > therapy. It just says it's a shame to push her away from this
> > newsgroup.
>
> Hey Joelle, you never answered my question about what you meant when
> you said that I could tell someone is a child molester just by looking
> at them? Please enlighten me. I have no idea what you meant or what
> you were talking about.

Hey, Joelle, I think you owe me a retraction, not a reaction, to this.
And, an apology for saying misleading, untrue, slanderous things about
me. Ignoring this request just tells me that you know you're wrong but
you don't know how to tell me.

Karen

[CME]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> (Karen O'Mara) wrote in message
> >...
>> (Karen O'Mara) wrote in message
>> >...
>> > (Joelle) wrote in message
>> > >...
>> > > >And, if she is real,
>> > > >it's a shame for us to tell her to "go get therapy"
>> > >
>> > > You have to be kidding.
>> > >
>> > > Then again, you think you can tell someone is a child molester just
>> > > by looking
>> > > at them. Yea, much better people with multiple problems listen to
>> > > people like
>> > > you than see a therapist.
>> > >
>> > > But I'm the bad poster....
>> >
>> > I didn't say you were a bad poster. And I don't know what you are
>> > talking about when you say I think someone is a child molester ...
>> > what are you talking about?
>> >
>> > And, you snipped most of my post... which doesn't say *not* to get
>> > therapy. It just says it's a shame to push her away from this
>> > newsgroup.
>>
>> Hey Joelle, you never answered my question about what you meant when
>> you said that I could tell someone is a child molester just by looking
>> at them? Please enlighten me. I have no idea what you meant or what
>> you were talking about.
>
> Hey, Joelle, I think you owe me a retraction, not a reaction, to this.
> And, an apology for saying misleading, untrue, slanderous things about
> me. Ignoring this request just tells me that you know you're wrong but
> you don't know how to tell me.
>
> Karen

Get a life, heck a good first step would be to stop typing and go outside.
You look like a complete and utter moron.

Christine

[CME]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:<D424d.64466$KU5.55845@edtnps89>...
>
>> Which is a good thing, sounds like she'd just use it against you anyways.
>> Sheesh.
>
> What did I ever do to you? What did I ever do to Joelle, anyway?
>
> My guess of theology was pretty close to sociology (or whatever she
> said). There were a few theology students there, and since Joelle is
> currently a pastor, it was a good guess. It certainly wasn't a
> slanderous comment, unlike things that were said in my direction.
>
> Karen

Ooo waaaah. Yeah it's all Joelle, she's such a bad bad lady. ~rolls eyes~
Get off the witch hunt, you're securing your own noose.

Christine

[lm]

On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:25:04 GMT, "CME" >
wrote:

>
>"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
>> "CME" > wrote in message
>> news:<D424d.64466$KU5.55845@edtnps89>...
>>
>>> Which is a good thing, sounds like she'd just use it against you anyways.
>>> Sheesh.
>>
>> What did I ever do to you? What did I ever do to Joelle, anyway?
>>
>> My guess of theology was pretty close to sociology (or whatever she
>> said). There were a few theology students there, and since Joelle is
>> currently a pastor, it was a good guess. It certainly wasn't a
>> slanderous comment, unlike things that were said in my direction.
>>
>> Karen
>
>Ooo waaaah. Yeah it's all Joelle, she's such a bad bad lady. ~rolls eyes~
>Get off the witch hunt, you're securing your own noose.

This is a really weird argument.

lm

[Paul Griffiths]

"CME" > wrote in message
news:kPg4d.42891$t61.11332@clgrps13...
> "Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "CME" > wrote in message
> > news:<D424d.64466$KU5.55845@edtnps89>...
> >
> >> Which is a good thing, sounds like she'd just use it against you
anyways.
> >> Sheesh.
> >
> > What did I ever do to you? What did I ever do to Joelle, anyway?
> >
> > My guess of theology was pretty close to sociology (or whatever she
> > said). There were a few theology students there, and since Joelle is
> > currently a pastor, it was a good guess. It certainly wasn't a
> > slanderous comment, unlike things that were said in my direction.
>
> Ooo waaaah. Yeah it's all Joelle, she's such a bad bad lady. ~rolls eyes~
> Get off the witch hunt, you're securing your own noose.

Right, that's it. You two, out in the corridor now. Christine, you'll be
joining them too if you're not careful, my girl.

Honestly, kids today. <sigh> ;-)


--
Paul Griffiths

[Joelle]

>Right, that's it. You two, out in the corridor now.

I'm done. I've filtered her. Her obsession with me is creeping me out.

Joelle
The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
Augustine
Joelle

[CME]

"Joelle" > wrote in message
...
> >Right, that's it. You two, out in the corridor now.
>
> I'm done. I've filtered her. Her obsession with me is creeping me out.
>
> Joelle
> The world is a book and those who do not travel read only one page - St
> Augustine
> Joelle

I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look for a reason
to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding more fuel.
;)

Christine

[Karen O'Mara]

"CME" > wrote in message news:<MMg4d.42890$t61.20524@clgrps13>...

> Get a life, heck a good first step would be to stop typing and go outside.
> You look like a complete and utter moron.

Resorting to name-calling is quite a comeback.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

(Joelle) wrote in message >...
>
> I'm done. I've filtered her. Her obsession with me is creeping me out.

You posted a horrible allegation about me, Reverand Joelle. You said
that I could tell a child molester by just looking and I asked you to
explain. You ignored my request after saying that horrible thing. The
creep-out was by you. Not me.

I think you're obsessed with me and inventing things along the way.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

"CME" > wrote in message news:<vqj4d.74698$KU5.46864@edtnps89>...
>
> I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look for a reason
> to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding more fuel.
> ;)

Not surprised you follow your pal. Nobody needed you fueling the fire.
You could have done what was right and honest, though. You didn't need
to pick sides. You've lost your credibility by following the leader of
the pack.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

lm > wrote in message >...

> This is a really weird argument.

It is weird. I was weirded out with that accusation. It was wrong for
say that, and I gave her opportunity to say she was wrong. She must
have me confused with someone else, or is remembering something wrong.
She probably tried to look it up in the archives so she could blast
me, but there's nothing there. She's incapable of saying she made a
mistake but wanted to give another kick as she walked out and said
she'd filter me. She could have just killfiled me and not make the big
announcement, but she didn't.

The truth is obvious and I hope others reading the accusation and
silent followups know it's her problem, not mine.

Karen

[CME]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> lm > wrote in message
> >...
>
>> This is a really weird argument.
>
> It is weird. I was weirded out with that accusation. It was wrong for
> say that, and I gave her opportunity to say she was wrong. She must
> have me confused with someone else, or is remembering something wrong.
> She probably tried to look it up in the archives so she could blast
> me, but there's nothing there. She's incapable of saying she made a
> mistake but wanted to give another kick as she walked out and said
> she'd filter me. She could have just killfiled me and not make the big
> announcement, but she didn't.
>
> The truth is obvious and I hope others reading the accusation and
> silent followups know it's her problem, not mine.
>
> Karen

Did it ever occur to you she was talking in a broad sense? That our ability
to see people for who they really are just by looking at them is out of
touch with reality? So the only thing weird around here is your focusing on
one comment and twisting it to suit yourself.

Christine

[CME]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:<MMg4d.42890$t61.20524@clgrps13>...
>
>> Get a life, heck a good first step would be to stop typing and go
>> outside.
>> You look like a complete and utter moron.
>
> Resorting to name-calling is quite a comeback.
>
> Karen

I said you LOOK like a moron but with every post it's becoming more clear.

Christine

[CME]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:<vqj4d.74698$KU5.46864@edtnps89>...
>>
>> I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look for a
>> reason
>> to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding more
>> fuel.
>> ;)
>
> Not surprised you follow your pal. Nobody needed you fueling the fire.
> You could have done what was right and honest, though. You didn't need
> to pick sides. You've lost your credibility by following the leader of
> the pack.
>
> Karen

Joelle and I have had our differences in opinion so this creation of sides
for you to distinguish from doesn't add to your credibility either.

Christine

[P. Fritz]

"CME" > wrote in message
news:xRt4d.44773$t61.14306@clgrps13...
>
> "Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
> om...
> > "CME" > wrote in message
> > news:<vqj4d.74698$KU5.46864@edtnps89>...
> >>
> >> I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look for a
> >> reason
> >> to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding more
> >> fuel.
> >> ;)
> >
> > Not surprised you follow your pal. Nobody needed you fueling the fire.
> > You could have done what was right and honest, though. You didn't need
> > to pick sides. You've lost your credibility by following the leader of
> > the pack.
> >
> > Karen
>
> Joelle and I have had our differences in opinion so this creation of
sides
> for you to distinguish from doesn't add to your credibility either.
>
> Christine

Damn!.......did I miss the vote? When did Joelle get elected? :-)

People that take usnet posting so frikkin serious need to get a life



>
>

[Karen O'Mara]

"CME" > wrote in message news:<TPt4d.44771$t61.37612@clgrps13>...

>
> I said you LOOK like a moron but with every post it's becoming more clear.

Same thing. Instead of acknowledging the issue at hand, your diversion
was to call me a moron. How ironic. erm... moronic.

Karen

[Karen O'Mara]

"CME" > wrote in message news:<YNt4d.44770$t61.18696@clgrps13>...
> Did it ever occur to you she was talking in a broad sense? That our ability
> to see people for who they really are just by looking at them is out of
> touch with reality? So the only thing weird around here is your focusing on
> one comment and twisting it to suit yourself.

She could have said she was speaking in a broad sense, when I asked
her to explain. But, she was above that somehow.

I wasn't twisting one comment to suit myself. I just requested a
simple explanation. I wonder how you'd feel/react if something dire
was insinuated against you in a public forum?

Karen

[CME]

"P. Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:xRt4d.44773$t61.14306@clgrps13...
> >
> > "Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
> > om...
> > > "CME" > wrote in message
> > > news:<vqj4d.74698$KU5.46864@edtnps89>...
> > >>
> > >> I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look for a
> > >> reason
> > >> to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding
> more
> > >> fuel.
> > >> ;)
> > >
> > > Not surprised you follow your pal. Nobody needed you fueling the
> fire.
> > > You could have done what was right and honest, though. You didn't
> need
> > > to pick sides. You've lost your credibility by following the leader
> of
> > > the pack.
> > >
> > > Karen
> >
> > Joelle and I have had our differences in opinion so this creation of
> sides
> > for you to distinguish from doesn't add to your credibility either.
> >
> > Christine
>
> Damn!.......did I miss the vote? When did Joelle get elected? :-)
>

I'll start printing out flyers.

> People that take usnet posting so frikkin serious need to get a life

What is this word you use... life? Is it like this intangible word... sex?

Christine

[CME]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:<YNt4d.44770$t61.18696@clgrps13>...
>> Did it ever occur to you she was talking in a broad sense? That our
>> ability
>> to see people for who they really are just by looking at them is out of
>> touch with reality? So the only thing weird around here is your focusing
>> on
>> one comment and twisting it to suit yourself.
>
> She could have said she was speaking in a broad sense, when I asked
> her to explain. But, she was above that somehow.
>
> I wasn't twisting one comment to suit myself. I just requested a
> simple explanation. I wonder how you'd feel/react if something dire
> was insinuated against you in a public forum?
>
> Karen

Oh God forbid someone says something bad about me. I think I'll go phone my
Mom because someone hurt my fweelings. It's the internet, either grow
thicker skin or cut your access.

Christine

[Tiffany]

"Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
om...
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:<YNt4d.44770$t61.18696@clgrps13>...
>> Did it ever occur to you she was talking in a broad sense? That our
>> ability
>> to see people for who they really are just by looking at them is out of
>> touch with reality? So the only thing weird around here is your focusing
>> on
>> one comment and twisting it to suit yourself.
>
> She could have said she was speaking in a broad sense, when I asked
> her to explain. But, she was above that somehow.
>
> I wasn't twisting one comment to suit myself. I just requested a
> simple explanation. I wonder how you'd feel/react if something dire
> was insinuated against you in a public forum?
>
> Karen

She has your posts in the killfile, doesn't she? If so, she couldn't SEE
your posts until someone else replied.

I don't 'know what the deal is with you to but I see Joelle has made her
last comments to you so maybe it's best to let it go.

T

[P.Fritz]

"CME" > wrote in message
news:r0F4d.48893$t61.23335@clgrps13...
>
> "P. Fritz" > wrote in message
> ...
> >
> > "CME" > wrote in message
> > news:xRt4d.44773$t61.14306@clgrps13...
> > >
> > > "Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
> > > om...
> > > > "CME" > wrote in message
> > > > news:<vqj4d.74698$KU5.46864@edtnps89>...
> > > >>
> > > >> I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look for
a
> > > >> reason
> > > >> to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding
> > more
> > > >> fuel.
> > > >> ;)
> > > >
> > > > Not surprised you follow your pal. Nobody needed you fueling the
> > fire.
> > > > You could have done what was right and honest, though. You didn't
> > need
> > > > to pick sides. You've lost your credibility by following the leader
> > of
> > > > the pack.
> > > >
> > > > Karen
> > >
> > > Joelle and I have had our differences in opinion so this creation of
> > sides
> > > for you to distinguish from doesn't add to your credibility either.
> > >
> > > Christine
> >
> > Damn!.......did I miss the vote? When did Joelle get elected? :-)
> >
>
> I'll start printing out flyers.
>
> > People that take usnet posting so frikkin serious need to get a life
>
> What is this word you use... life? Is it like this intangible word...
sex?
>
> Christine

I will refrain from commenting lest I get accused of flirting with you too
LOL

>
>

[CME]

"P.Fritz" > wrote in message
...
>
> "CME" > wrote in message
> news:r0F4d.48893$t61.23335@clgrps13...
>>
>> "P. Fritz" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> >
>> > "CME" > wrote in message
>> > news:xRt4d.44773$t61.14306@clgrps13...
>> > >
>> > > "Karen O'Mara" > wrote in message
>> > > om...
>> > > > "CME" > wrote in message
>> > > > news:<vqj4d.74698$KU5.46864@edtnps89>...
>> > > >>
>> > > >> I think I'll follow suit. Seems all she's done lately is look
>> > for
> a
>> > > >> reason
>> > > >> to blame you for something and I'm sure you don't need me adding
>> > more
>> > > >> fuel.
>> > > >> ;)
>> > > >
>> > > > Not surprised you follow your pal. Nobody needed you fueling the
>> > fire.
>> > > > You could have done what was right and honest, though. You didn't
>> > need
>> > > > to pick sides. You've lost your credibility by following the
>> > leader
>> > of
>> > > > the pack.
>> > > >
>> > > > Karen
>> > >
>> > > Joelle and I have had our differences in opinion so this creation of
>> > sides
>> > > for you to distinguish from doesn't add to your credibility either.
>> > >
>> > > Christine
>> >
>> > Damn!.......did I miss the vote? When did Joelle get elected?
>> > :-)
>> >
>>
>> I'll start printing out flyers.
>>
>> > People that take usnet posting so frikkin serious need to get a life
>>
>> What is this word you use... life? Is it like this intangible word...
> sex?
>>
>> Christine
>
> I will refrain from commenting lest I get accused of flirting with you too
> LOL

Since when is this a bad thing???? Pffffffft you're no fun.

Christine