Re: A must read: A child's story of abuse

[Kane]

Greegor wrote:
> Why would somebody who was abused in the Foster Care system
> cite endorsements from people
> who work in the system?

Apparently you didn't read the endorsements. If I was a victim of
medical malpractice would it not make sense to have doctors other than
the one that committed the malpractice read and endorse my book?

> Is this a new trend?

No, not at all. People that have life experiences tend to relate to
those that are part of that life experience.

> Will rape victims now begin to
> cite book endorsements from
> their rapists?

No. I didn't see this author asking for endorsements from abusive
parents, abusive foster parents, or anyone other than those that can be
of help to children.

And as for your analogy...it's very possible a reformed and repentent
rapist might have comments to make that would be supportive of an
author writing about rape. It seems to work in other fields.

We are waiting for you to express your repentence and new awakening
that you had choices back when you were convicted, repeatedly, of
domestic abuse, to stop the cycle. Of course we expect a bit more of a
wait.
You are warped, greegor...but then we all know that by now.

Kane

[Kane]

Greegor wrote:
> Why would somebody who was abused in the Foster Care system
> cite endorsements from people
> who work in the system?
>
> Is this a new trend?
>
> Will rape victims now begin to
> cite book endorsements from
> their rapists?

The author was first abused by his mother. He doesn't speak, in his on
line notes, of abuse in foster care:

"
My mother lived in the streets of Manhattan during the last four months
of her pregnancy. Remember. It
was 1932, during the Great Depression.

I was born and became a ward of New York State. Lived in an orphanage
for three years and then a foster
home until I was seven. Mother appears, takes me to live with her and
my stepfather. For the next six-
seven months, I experience extreme abuse by her. My stepfather caught
her beating me over the head
with a large frying pan and I'm returned to foster homes and child
shelters until I'm fifteen. Mother again
appears and I'm convinced by my counselor that it would be good for me
to live with family although I don't
want to live with her. Life with her becomes hell and after six months,
I demand to be returned to foster
home life. I joined the Army in 1950, when I turned eighteen.
"
http://www.chuckvella.com/hollow05clos.html

You are nothing if not stupid and ignorant, and determined to remain
that way.

Kane

[chuck]

Thanks Kane. You have read me correctly. I'm using Free Agent for the
first time.. I'm getting the hang of it.
Chuck


On 18 Jan 2005 14:52:02 -0800, "Kane" >
wrote:

>Greegor wrote:
>> Why would somebody who was abused in the Foster Care system
>> cite endorsements from people
>> who work in the system?
>
>Apparently you didn't read the endorsements. If I was a victim of
>medical malpractice would it not make sense to have doctors other than
>the one that committed the malpractice read and endorse my book?
>
>> Is this a new trend?
>
>No, not at all. People that have life experiences tend to relate to
>those that are part of that life experience.
>
>> Will rape victims now begin to
>> cite book endorsements from
>> their rapists?
>
>No. I didn't see this author asking for endorsements from abusive
>parents, abusive foster parents, or anyone other than those that can be
>of help to children.
>
>And as for your analogy...it's very possible a reformed and repentent
>rapist might have comments to make that would be supportive of an
>author writing about rape. It seems to work in other fields.
>
>We are waiting for you to express your repentence and new awakening
>that you had choices back when you were convicted, repeatedly, of
>domestic abuse, to stop the cycle. Of course we expect a bit more of a
>wait.
>You are warped, greegor...but then we all know that by now.
>
>Kane


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[Kane]

chuck wrote:
> Thanks Kane. You have read me correctly. I'm using Free Agent for
the
> first time.. I'm getting the hang of it.
> Chuck

Aw shucks. Now you have become the enemy....well, of the greegor and
kinky friends crowd, anyway.

For a bit their they were sure they would get to dance in our blood for
their cause, "CPS the Evil Empire."

Foster care is the pits, and any kid that lives in it for long, unless
they are lucky enough to land with one good family and not move, are
bound to run into folks they don't get one with, or who slip through
the cracks.

Your story is very worth the read to get a handle on how a life that
begins with abuse by parents can finally turn out to be manageable,
with considerable work, and worth while. You have probably more value
than you know yet.

I wish there were more people here to read your story that could get
something from it. If it doesn't say, 'I hate CPS' it's not going to be
seen intirely...only the parts, like our little greegor just
demonstrated, that they wish to see to further their obsessive biases.

Thanks again. I'm giving out your URL all over the place in the proper
quarters.

Kane
>
>
> On 18 Jan 2005 14:52:02 -0800, "Kane" >
> wrote:
>
> >Greegor wrote:
> >> Why would somebody who was abused in the Foster Care system
> >> cite endorsements from people
> >> who work in the system?
> >
> >Apparently you didn't read the endorsements. If I was a victim of
> >medical malpractice would it not make sense to have doctors other
than
> >the one that committed the malpractice read and endorse my book?
> >
> >> Is this a new trend?
> >
> >No, not at all. People that have life experiences tend to relate to
> >those that are part of that life experience.
> >
> >> Will rape victims now begin to
> >> cite book endorsements from
> >> their rapists?
> >
> >No. I didn't see this author asking for endorsements from abusive
> >parents, abusive foster parents, or anyone other than those that can
be
> >of help to children.
> >
> >And as for your analogy...it's very possible a reformed and
repentent
> >rapist might have comments to make that would be supportive of an
> >author writing about rape. It seems to work in other fields.
> >
> >We are waiting for you to express your repentence and new awakening
> >that you had choices back when you were convicted, repeatedly, of
> >domestic abuse, to stop the cycle. Of course we expect a bit more of
a
> >wait.
> >You are warped, greegor...but then we all know that by now.
> >
> >Kane
>
>
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