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Child
March 14th 05, 10:01 PM
I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful advice and information
regarding gestational diabetes. Its been difficult to keep a solid head
about myself with all the HYSTERIA over blood sugars which if I were not
pregnant, would be considered ENTIRELY NORMAL.

Without recommendations and information from this group, I would have been
left with the blood sugar police on ivillage for info, and would probably
have allowed someone to suggest insulin for some blood sugars that are not
only normal, but are only 2 points above what the ACOG is suggesting as a
guideline.

I feel armed with my information, and very comfortable telling my OB and my
dietician exactly what I think is appropriate and what isn't. I am NOT
going to get hysterical over the possibility of a large baby - I was a large
baby and my husband would have been a large baby if he wasnt' born 6 weeks
early. If I had it to do over, I would have lost weight before I got
pregnant, as that was my original plan anyway, but now its a little late!

Todd Gastaldo
March 14th 05, 10:38 PM
BLAMING BABIES...

See below.

"Child" > wrote in message
...
>I wanted to thank everyone for their helpful advice and information
> regarding gestational diabetes. Its been difficult to keep a solid head
> about myself with all the HYSTERIA over blood sugars which if I were not
> pregnant, would be considered ENTIRELY NORMAL.
>
> Without recommendations and information from this group, I would have been
> left with the blood sugar police on ivillage for info, and would probably
> have allowed someone to suggest insulin for some blood sugars that are not
> only normal, but are only 2 points above what the ACOG is suggesting as a
> guideline.
>
> I feel armed with my information, and very comfortable telling my OB and
> my
> dietician exactly what I think is appropriate and what isn't. I am NOT
> going to get hysterical over the possibility of a large baby - I was a
> large
> baby and my husband would have been a large baby if he wasnt' born 6 weeks
> early. If I had it to do over, I would have lost weight before I got
> pregnant, as that was my original plan anyway, but now its a little late!
>

Child,

Hysteria averted! YAY! (I did not see this thread develop, but it is SO
cool the way it turned out!)

Funny how OBs routinely close birth canals up to 30% and routinely KEEP
birth canals closed when babies get stuck - ignoring the PELVIC part of
feto-pelvic disproportion and BLAMING BABIES - emphasizing the FETO part of
feto-pelvic disproportion...

Yes, it would be better if the baby was smaller - but...

WHY THE HELL ARE THEY CLOSING BIRTH CANALS UP TO 30% AND KEEPING BIRTH
CANALS CLOSED THE "EXTRA" UP TO 30% WHEN BABIES GET STUCK?!

Why are they ignoring what they are doing to the pelvis and focusing on
BLAMING BABIES (and large women) for all the problems?

Now the pharmacist are getting in on the gag...

See below my Sep 1, 2004 post regarding the pharmacists getting in the
gag...

Todd


Todd Gastaldo Sep 1 2004, 3:57 pm show options

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Date: Wed, 01 Sep 2004 22:57:33 GMT
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Subject: Pharmacists and fetal macrosomia (Big Baby Coming)
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PHARMACISTS AND FETAL MACROSOMIA


Macrosomia means BIG BABY COMING ("big" is defined at the end of this
post...)


"[Macrosomia]...is perhaps the hallmark of [gestational diabetes
mellitus/GDM]...[and s]houlder dystocia...[is]...a complication associated
with macrosomia..."
--Emily Evans, Pharm.D. and Roland Patry, DR.P.H. Am J Health Syst Pharm.
2004 Jul 15;61(14):1460-5.
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_4


PREGNANT WOMEN: Regardless whether you are expecting a big baby...


BE ADVISED: OBs and CNMwives are closing birth canals up to 30% and it is
easy for you to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%.


See EMTs: 'Dangerous or perilous circumstances' (OB felonies)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com*/group/chiro-list/message/2766


ALSO NOTEWORTHY: OBs are temporarily asphyxiating babies to rob them of
blood - this too is easily prevented. See URL just cited.


Pharmacy professors EVANS and PATRY discuss:


SETTING UP A PHARMACIST-RUN GDM EDUCATION SERVICE


GDM = Gestational Diabetes Mellitus


OPEN LETTER (archived for global access; see below)


Emily Evans, Pharm.D., AE-C
Assistant Professor of Pharmacy Practice
School of Pharmacy
South University, Savannah, GA



Roland Patry, M.S., DR.P.H., FASHP
Professor of Pharmacy Practice
School of Pharmacy
Texas Tech University Health Sciences Center, Amarillo.


Emily and Roland,


You write that pharmacists who market their gestational diabetes
mellitus/GDM education service to local physicians should "stress that the
program is...not to be a replacement for current care."
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_7
BEWARE: Some "current care" needs to be replaced immediately. It pertains
to the hallmark of GDM, macrosomia, and its associated complication,
shoulder dystocia.


The American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists/ACOG's Shoulder
Dystocia video indirectly admits that OBs are knowingly closing birth
canals. (The ACOG video advises obstetricians to allow the birth canal to
open maximally when baby's shoulders get stuck.)


According to radiographic studies, OBs are closing birth canals **up to
30%** and the ACOG Shoulder Dystocia video actually teaches OBs to KEEP the
birth canal closed when baby's shoulders get stuck.


See ACOG birth crime video evidence
http://health.groups.yahoo.com*/group/chiro-list/message/2300


WHY NOT CONSIDER OFFERING PHARMACIST-RUN EDUCATION FOR **ALL** PREGNANT
WOMEN?


After all, OBs are using pharmaceuticals (oxytocin/Cytotec) to whip the
uterus to contract violently with the birth canal senselessly closed up to
30%...


So pharmacists should consider offering education to ALL pregnant women -
not just those needing GDM education service.


Don't forget: OBs are also PULLING gruesomely on tiny spines - with hands,
forceps and vacuums - with the birth canal senselessly closed up to 30% -
and sometimes OBs pull so hard they rip spinal nerves out of tiny spinal
cords.


Some babies die - some are paralyzed - most "only" have their spines
gruesomely wrenched.


ALL spinal manipulation is gruesome with the birth canal closed up to 30%.


And there are the gruesome cutting surgeries...


OBs are slicing vaginas en masse (euphemism "routine episiotomy") -
surgically/FRAUDULENTLY inferring everything possible is being done to OPEN
birth canals - even as they CLOSE birth canals - up to 30%.


OBs are slicing abdomens en masse ("c-section") - surgically/fraudulently
inferring everything possible has been DONE to open birth canals - even as
they CLOSE birth canals - up to 30%.


Now - to be sure - allowing the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30% is
not going to prevent all caesareans and episiotomies - but it can't hurt.


Emily and Roland, I *LIKE* the idea of the pharmacist-educator establishing
a medical record and sending it to the physician, as in,


"[A] medical record should be established...At the end of the session, a
letter summarizing...[education received by the patient] should be sent to
the referring physician."
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_6


With OBs refusing to stop closing birth canals...


With OBs KEEPING birth canals closed when shoulders get stuck...


Women who suffer "poor obstetric outcomes" (and their attorneys) will be
glad their pharmacist-educators notified their OBs that OBs should not close
birth canals...


I use the phrase "poor obstetric outcomes" because, according to your
article, to be considered "low-risk" for gestational diabetes mellitus/GDM
women must have "no history of poor obstetric outcomes."


You write:


"Low-risk patients are those who meet all of the following criteria: age of
<25 years, normal prepregnancy weight, not a member of a high-risk ethnic
group, no known diabetes in first-degree relatives, no history of abnormal
glucose tolerance, and no history of poor obstetric outcomes."
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_3


Obviously, by causing "poor obstetric outcomes," OBs are artificially
inflating the number of women in need of gestational diabetes mellitus/GDM
screening.


Further in regard to screening...


I note from your article that in 2004 the American Diabetes Association/ADA
"recommended against screening low-risk patients" - apparently echoing the
Fourth International Workshop Conference on Gestational Diabetes Mellitus
[1998].
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_3


Curiously, though, you cited only "one small study" in support of your
belief that ADA's recommendation against screening low-risk women is
"controversial."
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_3


AGAIN: WHY NOT CONSIDER OFFERING PHARMACIST-RUN EDUCATION FOR **ALL**
PREGNANT WOMEN?


OBs are using pharmaceuticals (oxytocin/Cytotec) to whip the uterus to
contract violently with the birth canal senselessly closed up to 30%...


So pharmacists should consider offering education to ALL pregnant women -
not just those needing GDM education service.


The American Diabetes Association/ADA reportedly does not believe screening
low-risk patients is "cost-effective."


Hopefully, pharmacists (ASHP) and ADA can agree that it would be
cost-effective to stop OBs from closing birth canals.


Copied to Henri R. Manasse, Jr., Ph.D., ) Exec. VP and
CEO of the American Society of Health-System Pharmacists/ASHP (ASHP holds
the copyright on Emily and Roland's paper.)


Copied to Richard Talley ), Editor, American Journal of
Health-System Pharmacy (where Emily and Roland's paper was published.)


PHARMACIST LARRY ELLINGSON CHAIRS THE BOARD OF THE DIABETES ASSOCIATION


Copied to Pharmacist Larry K. Ellingson, RPh, Chair of the Board of the
American Diabetes Association via


ADA Chair Larry,
"The mission of the Association is to prevent and cure diabetes and to
improve the lives of all people affected by diabetes."
http://www.diabetes.org/aboutu*s.jsp?WTLPromo=HEADER_aboutus&*vms=14736...


"To fulfill this mission, the American Diabetes Association funds research,
publishes scientific findings, provides information and other services to
people with diabetes, their families, health professionals and the public."


I'm hoping the ADA will start informing pregnant women - with or without
diabetes - that OBs are closing birth canals - and it easy for them to allow
their birth canals to open an "extra" up to 30%..


Please forward this email to Richard Kahn, PhD, ADA's Chief Scientific &
Medical Officer


"BIG BABY" (FETAL MACROSOMIA) DEFINED...


"One study defined macrosomia as a body weight greater than 9.9 lb (4.5 kg)
and found a frequency of macrosomia of 14.0% in mothers with [gestational
diabetes mellitus/GDM] and 6.3% in a control group of mothers without GDM (p
= 0.049).[13] In another large, retrospective study, 23% of infants born to
mothers with GDM weighed more than 8.8 lb (4 kg), compared with 8% of
infants born to nondiabetic women (p < 0.001)."
--Evans and Patry. Am J Health Syst Pharm. 2004 Jul 15;61(14):1460-5.
http://www.medscape.com/viewar*ticle/483810_4


PREGNANT WOMEN: Regardless whether you are expecting a big baby...


BE ADVISED: OBs and CNMwives are closing birth canals up to 30% and it is
easy for you to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra" up to 30%.


ALSO NOTEWORTHY: OBs are temporarily asphyxiating babies to rob them of
blood - this crime too is easily prevented.


See EMTs: 'Dangerous or perilous circumstances' (OB felonies)
http://health.groups.yahoo.com*/group/chiro-list/message/2766


One last note: As usual, I am in favor of pardons in advance for MDs. MDs
are just academic prime cuts forced through this culture's most powerful
mental meatgrinder - medical school.


Thanks for reading.


Sincerely,


Todd


Dr. Gastaldo



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