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Robert Powell

June 29th 05, 07:00 PM

Help!

Okay we're down to the last week - okay 4.5 days if you want to be picky -
and DW is becoming increasingly.., (how can I put this without her wanting
to hurt me.., no good she'll want to hurt me anyway. :-)) frustrated at
still being pregnant.

She keeps looking at me and telling me to tell MY son to get out now! Which
was not a phrase I was expecting to hear until his teenage years - and when
did he become MY son as well? I thought he was a joint effort?!!

She's too cold, she's too hot, she can't sleep, she's fed up of sleeping,
she's too big she's too small, why aren't I home? Why am I under her feet?
She doesn't want to see anyone, why is everyone avoiding her?

Why do I look so bewildered all the time?

I've assembled everything that her and her family's superstitions allow,
including the cot and the changing table but strangely the travel system (I've
learnt not to call it a pram, ooooh yes I have!) needs to stop in the
garage. I don't know why and frankly I'm not going to ask, but apparently
all my efforts amount to nothing, because it isn't right. Why isn't it right
you might ask, because apparently if it was right then MY son - looks like I'm
going to be a sole parent then - would be eager to be born.

I've hidden the knives but I'm a little worried that I can't find my garden
secaters and if memory serves she was more than a little interested in the
Lorena Bobbitt case a few years back. She's drinking raspberry tea like it
is being taken off the shelves tomorrow and quite honestly the smell of
Clarys Sage oil would stun a rogue elephant at forty yards; all apparently
sure fire ways to induce the little beggar out of there. Her Reiki
Practitioner has stimulated this, twisted that and lubricated the other with
no other effect than we get better reception on Channel 5 if DW stands next
to the TV.

I am not a religious man, but I'm praying this baby doesn't go over and I
get my - sane - wife back soon.

Irrationality, thy name is third trimester!

Regards

Bob

Ericka Kammerer

June 29th 05, 07:26 PM

Robert Powell wrote:

> Help!
>
> Okay we're down to the last week - okay 4.5 days if you want to be picky -
> and DW is becoming increasingly.., (how can I put this without her wanting
> to hurt me.., no good she'll want to hurt me anyway. :-)) frustrated at
> still being pregnant.

Hang tough! It's a rough time at the end. Do you mean it's
4.5 days until the due date? If so, fasten your seatbelts, because
the median length of gestation for first timers is 41 weeks 1 day,
meaning that you've only got a 50/50 shot at her going before her
"due date" plus 8 days. My SIL is waiting to drop a baby anytime
as well. Don't get into her situation. Her due date isn't until
7/2 (7/6 if you go by the likely-more-reliable early u/s date
that also agrees with her charting), but nevertheless last week
they told her she'd better get her husband back from Korea for
the birth early because she could go Any Minute Now. Mind you,
he's only got 30 days and they really wanted him to be able to
be there for as much time after the birth as possible. She went
in Monday only to be told her cervix wasn't favorable enough for
an induction (so enquiring minds would like to know why the heck
they thought her husband needed to get home right away...) so
she'd have to go home and come back Thursday (tomorrow) for another
look. At this rate, they're going to end up inducing her before
her situation is favorable and she'll end up with a c-section :-/
I'm sure she's out of her mind with frustration at still being
pregnant by now. Think of it this way--at least your wife isn't
combat trained ;-)

Best wishes,
Ericka

Michelle J. Haines

June 29th 05, 07:45 PM

Jenrose

June 29th 05, 10:30 PM

"Robert Powell" > wrote in message
...
> Help!
>
> Okay we're down to the last week - okay 4.5 days if you want to be picky -
> and DW is becoming increasingly.., (how can I put this without her wanting
> to hurt me.., no good she'll want to hurt me anyway. :-)) frustrated at
> still being pregnant.
>
<snip hysterical bit>
I am ROTFL... this too shall pass. We all go a little batty at the end, I
think. Just don't take it personally, and realize that it will be over
sooner than you can possibly imagine, even if it feels like the longest
moments of your life. My husband could have written this (and in fact, wrote
something much like it when I was 38 1/2 weeks).

Jenrose

Irrational Number

June 29th 05, 11:55 PM

Robert Powell wrote:
>
> She keeps looking at me and telling me to tell MY son to get out now! Which
> was not a phrase I was expecting to hear until his teenage years - and when
> did he become MY son as well? I thought he was a joint effort?!!

Ah, I like your wife. I kept telling
my husband to tell HIS son to stop kicking
me.

> She's too cold, she's too hot, she can't sleep, she's fed up of sleeping,
> she's too big she's too small, why aren't I home? Why am I under her feet?
> She doesn't want to see anyone, why is everyone avoiding her?

That's it? What about can't sit, can't
stand, can't walk, can't see my feet,
hungry, can't eat, heartburn, repeat,
take the older kid, go to the store, why
did it take so long, etc..?

-- Anita --

Cuddlefish

June 30th 05, 12:26 AM

"Robert Powell" > wrote in message
...
> Help!
>
> Okay we're down to the last week - okay 4.5 days if you want to be picky -
> and DW is becoming increasingly.., (how can I put this without her wanting
> to hurt me.., no good she'll want to hurt me anyway. :-)) frustrated at
> still being pregnant.

tee hee - at least you still have your sense of humour! ;-) I hope that can
see the both of you through until *YOUR* son makes his grand appearance!

I can understand your wife's frustration already, and I still have 5 weeks
to go! :-) Hang in there, Bob!

--
Jacqueline
#1 Due late Jul/early Aug

Sindy

June 30th 05, 05:35 AM

Dear Robert,

I have a 10 weeks old baby boy and I wanted to thankyou for making my day.
When I read your post, I thought it was the funniest thing I have read for a
long time.
Sorry that I do not have any advise for you, but once again, thanks a
million for making my day.
Regards Sindy

"Robert Powell" > wrote in message
...
> Help!
>
> Okay we're down to the last week - okay 4.5 days if you want to be picky -
> and DW is becoming increasingly.., (how can I put this without her wanting
> to hurt me.., no good she'll want to hurt me anyway. :-)) frustrated at
> still being pregnant.
>
> She keeps looking at me and telling me to tell MY son to get out now!
> Which was not a phrase I was expecting to hear until his teenage years -
> and when did he become MY son as well? I thought he was a joint effort?!!
>
> She's too cold, she's too hot, she can't sleep, she's fed up of sleeping,
> she's too big she's too small, why aren't I home? Why am I under her feet?
> She doesn't want to see anyone, why is everyone avoiding her?
>
> Why do I look so bewildered all the time?
>
> I've assembled everything that her and her family's superstitions allow,
> including the cot and the changing table but strangely the travel system
> (I've learnt not to call it a pram, ooooh yes I have!) needs to stop in
> the garage. I don't know why and frankly I'm not going to ask, but
> apparently all my efforts amount to nothing, because it isn't right. Why
> isn't it right you might ask, because apparently if it was right then MY
> son - looks like I'm going to be a sole parent then - would be eager to be
> born.
>
> I've hidden the knives but I'm a little worried that I can't find my
> garden secaters and if memory serves she was more than a little interested
> in the Lorena Bobbitt case a few years back. She's drinking raspberry tea
> like it is being taken off the shelves tomorrow and quite honestly the
> smell of Clarys Sage oil would stun a rogue elephant at forty yards; all
> apparently sure fire ways to induce the little beggar out of there. Her
> Reiki Practitioner has stimulated this, twisted that and lubricated the
> other with no other effect than we get better reception on Channel 5 if DW
> stands next to the TV.
>
> I am not a religious man, but I'm praying this baby doesn't go over and I
> get my - sane - wife back soon.
>
> Irrationality, thy name is third trimester!
>
> Regards
>
> Bob
>

Ilse Witch

June 30th 05, 11:46 AM

On Wed, 29 Jun 2005 19:00:50 +0000, Robert Powell wrote:

> ...apparently all my efforts amount to nothing, because it isn't right.
> Why isn't it right you might ask, because apparently if it was right
> then MY son - looks like I'm going to be a sole parent then - would be
> eager to be born.

LOL!! It's outrageously funny to read these things from a man's
perspective for once. But you're right, towards the end of the pregnancy,
there is nothing you can do that is OK. She might ask you to paint the
whole house blue, then when you're done she will reconsider and want it
yellow. But in the mean time, it will be *your* fault that she had you
paint it blue. There is no arguing about that.

Welcome to the irrational world of women, especially pregnant ones. It is
only an increase of the normal state of women. When we're not pregnant we
behave the same, only we manage to hide it much better ;-)

--
--I
mommy to DS (July '02)
mommy to four tiny angels (Oct '03 - Oct '04)
guardian of DH (age classified)
expecting twins (boy/girl) in August

June 30th 05, 02:01 PM

LOL, since you have a great sense of humor, I think you'll be OK! It's my
DH's fault that I'm eating a lot and gassy...I figure it's the baby's
inherited traits coming through.

For some "inspiration" on how to deal with her, go to
http://www.brawnyman.com/innocentescapes . Choose Pre-made greeting, and
then Random Breakdown. Too funny!

Amy

Amy

June 30th 05, 03:11 PM

Ilse Witch wrote:

> Welcome to the irrational world of women, especially pregnant ones. It is
> only an increase of the normal state of women. When we're not pregnant we
> behave the same, only we manage to hide it much better ;-)

I hate to admit it, but I think that this is really, really true. I
don't feel any less sane while pregnant (even though I was crying at
precisely 9 pm every night for a good, long time), I just find that my
ability to hid the crazy is seriously diminished - probably because I'm
too tired to work so hard at hiding it! :)

But then again, I come from a long line of crazy, crazy women, so it
figures. We all tend to marry quiet men, too. When my husband met yet
another crazy aunt of mine, he said, "You know, honey, every time I
meet a member of your family, I understand you a little more."

Amy

Robert Powell

June 30th 05, 03:45 PM

Ericka - yup it is now 3 days 15 hours (by my desktop countdown) until due
date, you'll excuse me if I don't pass on your statistical information on
the likelihood of DW going over as I've grown accustomed to finding my
anatomy where I left it and DW would almost certainly rearrange several
bits, including some of my favourites, if I was to mention the chances of
another week.

However I am now glad that I don't work in Korea - although when the
insanity grows strong enough, the opportunity does seem attractive.

Richard - are you trying to get me killed?!! I can picture it now,
'Sweetheart fancy going for a walk?' 'WALK? WALK? I CAN HARDLY STAND AND YOU
WANT ME TO WALK!'

Then of course there would be the implication that I might possibly, on some
level, maybe suggesting that she was unfit or overweight and needed the
exercise.., No, no no not a chance. I agree it might be the solution, but I
for one will not be the person to suggest it.

Michelle - Indeed we have erm.., what was the euphamism? 'Been Serving The
Tenant With An Eviction Notice' I think was my favourite; but as that isn't
working obviously it can be only one persons fault..., I guess I don't have
to tell you whose.

Jenrose - Nice to know I'm not alone and that you let your husband live,
gives me hope for the future. Please pass on my best regards and admiration.
:-)

Anita - You and DW must be long lost relatives, it's like I read your words
but hear her voice.

Jacqueline (Cuddlefish) Sindy Ilse and Amy (V)- I'm glad my pain amuses you!
*Grin*

All - Thanks for the support and advice, it is cheering to know that this
isn't a random thing and that fathers to be all over the world are sharing
the experince of being utterly and completely helpless. It is even more
cheering to know that DW will again one day return to the personality that I
fell in love with so many years ago.

Robert Powell

June 30th 05, 03:47 PM

I've always had this suspicion that pregnancy causes insanity, why else
would mom's come out with such choice statements as:

'Don't come running to me with your broken leg' - A good trick if you can
manage it!

'I'll take my hand off your cheek!' Off is no problem, it is the laying on
at speed that causes the pain.

'You just wait until you've gone young lady!' But if she waits, they can't
be gone.., can they?

'Don't talk back - now answer me!' Huh what? Have you taught your child sign
language?

These are all phrases I have heard used by mothers either aimed at myself as
a child or others since I've grown. I could list a whole lot more as I'm
sure could you, but you can see where my theory comes from. Until now though
I've not had any empirical proof of the relationship between pregnancy and
mental aberration but now - that I fear for my wife's sanity and my own
physical wellbeing - the theory is definitely holding water. *grin*

"Amy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Ilse Witch wrote:
>
>> Welcome to the irrational world of women, especially pregnant ones. It is
>> only an increase of the normal state of women. When we're not pregnant we
>> behave the same, only we manage to hide it much better ;-)
>
> I hate to admit it, but I think that this is really, really true. I
> don't feel any less sane while pregnant (even though I was crying at
> precisely 9 pm every night for a good, long time), I just find that my
> ability to hid the crazy is seriously diminished - probably because I'm
> too tired to work so hard at hiding it! :)
>
> But then again, I come from a long line of crazy, crazy women, so it
> figures. We all tend to marry quiet men, too. When my husband met yet
> another crazy aunt of mine, he said, "You know, honey, every time I
> meet a member of your family, I understand you a little more."
>
> Amy
>

Jamie Clark

June 30th 05, 04:42 PM

"Robert Powell" > wrote in message
...
> I've always had this suspicion that pregnancy causes insanity, why else
> would mom's come out with such choice statements as:
>
> 'Don't come running to me with your broken leg' - A good trick if you can
> manage it!

I've heard this one, but not from my mom.

> 'I'll take my hand off your cheek!' Off is no problem, it is the laying on
> at speed that causes the pain.
>
> 'You just wait until you've gone young lady!' But if she waits, they can't
> be gone.., can they?

Never heard these two at all.

I always liked, "Stop crying or I'll give you a reason to cry." Now THAT
makes a lot of sense. Give the kid a reason to cry, and they sure as hell
ain't gonna stop crying any time soon!
--

Jamie
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Jamie Clark

June 30th 05, 04:50 PM

Richard, Richard, Richard...
You've got to GET RID OF THE DESKTOP COUNTDOWN right now. Really. What
exactly do you think is going to happen in 3 days and 15 hours (which is now
probably 3 days and 10 hours)? Do you think baby is watching that countdown
too, and is magically going to open a hatch and pop out? By counting down
to the minute, you and your wife, but especially your wife, is going to go
bonkers when that due date minute comes, and passes, without incident.
Actually, the actual moment that it passes isn't to bad, it's the continuing
stream of moments that continue to march on by, hour after hour, day after
day after day...those are what's going to kill your wife, and cause her to
kill you. Because both of you are putting all your energies into getting to
that due date, but not beyond.

It's like running a marathon, except only training to run 20 miles. The
whole time you are running the actual marathon, you keep your eye out for
the 20 mile marker, you think "If I can only get to mile 20, this will all
be over...just 10 more miles, just 8 more miles, just 5 more miles, just 2
more miles, just one more mile...I can do it, just a few more feet....there!
20 miles!" Except you know what? You've got another 6 miles to go. But by
now you are emotionally and physically exhausted, because you didn't train
for 26 miles, you didn't prepare for 26 miles.

And finally, because in the end, you know that it's all going to be your
fault that she didn't have the baby on her due date, and that you never
warned her of the possibility that it might not happen.

Perhaps you can forward some of the messages from this thread, so that it's
not directly you who is telling her...just a thought.... : )
--

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"Robert Powell" > wrote in message
...
> Ericka - yup it is now 3 days 15 hours (by my desktop countdown) until due
> date, you'll excuse me if I don't pass on your statistical information on
> the likelihood of DW going over as I've grown accustomed to finding my
> anatomy where I left it and DW would almost certainly rearrange several
> bits, including some of my favourites, if I was to mention the chances of
> another week.
>

Robert Powell

June 30th 05, 05:18 PM

<snip>
> You've got to GET RID OF THE DESKTOP COUNTDOWN right now. Really. What
> exactly do you think is going to happen in 3 days and 15 hours (which is
> now probably 3 days and 10 hours)?
<snip>

Jamie,
I know you're right and where as it was kind if rewarding especially when we
passed the 24 week mark, it has become kind of an albatross round the neck,
BUT that's rational thinking and it has no part in this household at the
moment. When I suggested stopping it because it was now counter-productive -
like watching every birth program on Discovery and assuming ours was going
to anyway similar - I was told that taking it down would mean that I was
denying that the birth was immanent and that I'd never wanted the baby in
the first place and that I was a terrible supportive husband and several
other things that I didn't quite catch because the sobbing was so loud!

Sadly I'll have to leave it be and deal with the inevitable fallout when it
happen.

<snip>
> Perhaps you can forward some of the messages from this thread, so that
> it's not directly you who is telling her...just a thought.... : )
<snip>

Ha! Just the fact that I'd forwarded them, would mean I was suggesting that
she couldn't cope - when in fact she's coping brilliantly.., by relieving
all her frustrations on me.

It's me whose crumbling! *grin*

Melania

June 30th 05, 05:41 PM

Jamie Clark wrote:
> "Robert Powell" > wrote in message
> ...
> > I've always had this suspicion that pregnancy causes insanity, why else
> > would mom's come out with such choice statements as:
> >
> > 'Don't come running to me with your broken leg' - A good trick if you can
> > manage it!
>
> I've heard this one, but not from my mom.
>
> > 'I'll take my hand off your cheek!' Off is no problem, it is the laying on
> > at speed that causes the pain.
> >
> > 'You just wait until you've gone young lady!' But if she waits, they can't
> > be gone.., can they?
>
> Never heard these two at all.

I've never heard these either, although I think I understand the first
one.

>
> I always liked, "Stop crying or I'll give you a reason to cry." Now THAT
> makes a lot of sense. Give the kid a reason to cry, and they sure as hell
> ain't gonna stop crying any time soon!

This is true, and until I had a toddler I didn't understand why anyone
would say it. And I haven't said it, but when he is whining and
bursting into tears for no (discernable by me) reason, and I'm trying
to be a nice, supportive mommy without pandering or spoiling, and he
still pushes me or cries or whatever, a little voice in the back of my
brain starts saying things like "wouldn't it be satisfying to give him
a *reason* to cry? Then you'd know why he was crying, and you'd have
vented some frustration!" Fortunately, the sensible front voice is a
lot more powerful!

Melania

Jamie Clark

June 30th 05, 06:01 PM

"Melania" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>
> Jamie Clark wrote:
>> "Robert Powell" > wrote in message
>> ...
>> > I've always had this suspicion that pregnancy causes insanity, why else
>> > would mom's come out with such choice statements as:
>> >
>> > 'Don't come running to me with your broken leg' - A good trick if you
>> > can
>> > manage it!
>>
>> I've heard this one, but not from my mom.
>>
>> > 'I'll take my hand off your cheek!' Off is no problem, it is the laying
>> > on
>> > at speed that causes the pain.
>> >
>> > 'You just wait until you've gone young lady!' But if she waits, they
>> > can't
>> > be gone.., can they?
>>
>> Never heard these two at all.
>
> I've never heard these either, although I think I understand the first
> one.
>
>>
>> I always liked, "Stop crying or I'll give you a reason to cry." Now THAT
>> makes a lot of sense. Give the kid a reason to cry, and they sure as
>> hell
>> ain't gonna stop crying any time soon!
>
> This is true, and until I had a toddler I didn't understand why anyone
> would say it. And I haven't said it, but when he is whining and
> bursting into tears for no (discernable by me) reason, and I'm trying
> to be a nice, supportive mommy without pandering or spoiling, and he
> still pushes me or cries or whatever, a little voice in the back of my
> brain starts saying things like "wouldn't it be satisfying to give him
> a *reason* to cry? Then you'd know why he was crying, and you'd have
> vented some frustration!" Fortunately, the sensible front voice is a
> lot more powerful!
>
> Melania

Get out of my head.... : )
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June 30th 05, 06:58 PM

Robert Powell wrote:
>
> All - Thanks for the support and advice, it is cheering to know that this
> isn't a random thing and that fathers to be all over the world are sharing
> the experince of being utterly and completely helpless.

I never had those feelings. Maybe it's because you're a "lame", "simple
creature" with a "simple mind" who needs the guidance and patience of
another person who has the emotional capacity of a child.

Maybe your own post will explain why you are so "pathetic":

"In defence of DHs everywhere - we're lame, look we know we're lame,
there's
no need to rub it in okay! *grin*

Me I've learnt more in the past 5 months about pregnancy than I ever
wanted
to know - do I know as much DW? No, do I want to - HELL NO!! That stuff
is
scary.

Yet for all the books, videos TV shows and listings in these newsgroup,
do I
have any real idea what it is to be both a father and husband?

Nada, nowt, bumpkiss, not a sausage, the result of any number
subtracted
from itself, Sweet Fanny Adams, not a clue - in summary... no! The
husband
bit alone is difficult enough now we're just supposed to know how to be
a
father as well?

Men, well we're simple creatures with simple minds. We're like shaggy
ole
family dogs, all we ask is the occasional tummy rub and to know where
not to
pee and essentially we're happy. If you want us to do more we need
training - please do not hit your DH with a rolled up newspaper at this

point, this seldom leads to a happy relationship.

Can we run a law firm or strip a car down and put it back together or
change
a lightbulb and wire a plug? Yes for we are men, "See I bring home
fire,
fire good - grunt". See all that 'stuff' comes down to doing just one
thing
at a time. Knowing and meeting the needs of a mother, wife, confident
and
all the other roles our DW's do - well frankly it bewilders us. I'll be

honest and break the code of silence here - we don't have a clue, no
seriously we don't. We stumble along as best we can, but in the end
we're
just guessing and more often than not, guessing badly and peeing-off
our DWs
in the process! Add to that lot the needs of a first child, and we're
just
pathetic, no honestly, guys come on, fess up we are. I don't know maybe

after the first one it gets easier, I don't have the experience of that

first one yet to make that call, you tell me.

The role we knew before pregnancy, as men we were used to it, it was
comforting we understood it, but we had time to get to know you, it was
a
gradual process, we learnt as we went along - are we supposed to like
your
mother or not, are you a cat person, dog person or animal person,
flowers
and, chocolates are they special treats or necessities of life, foot
rubs,
shoulder rubs, either neither or both? These are all things we had the
time
to find out about you for ourselves, it allowed us to go from
boyfriends to
husbands or life partners - whatever your relationship, in time we
became
reliable enough to be fathers.

We don't have that luxury of time now!

The baby is here, your needs and theirs are here and we don't have the
time
to learn what how to answer those needs. The roles have changed, you
are not
the same woman you were before the birth, now as well as wife, you're
also a
mother. We understood the needs of wife, we don't understand the needs
of
mother combined with wife.

Yet instead of telling us what's now expected of us, we're supposed to
just
know - presumably by some sort of osmosis, I don't know, again you
won't
tell us. Dag-nammit!

We're simple not stupid. We love you, we want to help, but to do it we
need
your help.

Tell us what you want, we'll do it!

Tell us why you're doing something and we'll understand!

You get frustrated, we get frustrated. End the frustration cycle I say,

parents of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your
frustrations!

regards as always

Bob "

Hope that helps.

Regards...

June 30th 05, 09:27 PM

> Robert Powell wrote:
> >
> > She keeps looking at me and telling me to tell MY son to get out now! Which
> > was not a phrase I was expecting to hear until his teenage years - and when
> > did he become MY son as well? I thought he was a joint effort?!!
>
> > She's too cold, she's too hot, she can't sleep, she's fed up of sleeping,
> > she's too big she's too small, why aren't I home? Why am I under her feet?
> > She doesn't want to see anyone, why is everyone avoiding her?
>

Robert I know you are not looking for someone to say what I am about to
say, but I feel it needs to be said.

I was not like your wife at all during pg. I was my normal logical
self, and would not hurt dh at all in any way physical or emotional. I
was uncomfortable and in need of assistance, but not mean or capricious
at all. When I see pg women behaving like that it baffles me. They
must experience pg much differently than I do.

KC

Amy

June 30th 05, 09:56 PM

KC wrote:

> Robert I know you are not looking for someone to say what I am about to
> say, but I feel it needs to be said.
>
> I was not like your wife at all during pg. I was my normal logical
> self, and would not hurt dh at all in any way physical or emotional. I
> was uncomfortable and in need of assistance, but not mean or capricious
> at all. When I see pg women behaving like that it baffles me. They
> must experience pg much differently than I do.

KC, I mean this in the kindest, most loving way possible...

Is it possible that you perceived yourself as normal, logical, and
sane, while others around you said, "Oh yes, Dear, you're your usual
self," to your face, and made cuckoo signs behind your back? Because I
can't imagine having all of these hormones coursing through me, and NOT
being a little nuts.

I mean, I haven't thrown things (yet) either, but I've said some stuff
to my husband without thinking of how they'd make him feel (mainly that
this birth thing is The Amy Show, and if he doesn't like X, Y, and Z
then he can have the next one and do it however he pleases; and that
we'll do certain controversial things over my cold, dead, rotting
corpse, and so on...). That, and the crying for no reason at 9 pm, or
crying for no reason in general, it just happens. You haven't had any
of this? None? Seriously? Do you never get PMS? You haven't cried
at a Hallmark commercial? You haven't seen booties and hyperventilated
("Oh! My! God! They! Expect! ME! To! Raise! A! CHILD?!?!?)? You
haven't needed to have coconut ice cream on such a profound level that
you were willing to shave 10 years off the end of your life for a
double scoop of it, provided that it materialize in your presence right
NOW!?

I figure, it's part hormones, part anxiety (read: terror) about the
changes happening in our life, part fear of birth, and part plain old
nuts. You seriously aren't having any of this?

If so, we seriously need to consider the thought that you may be a
Vulcan.

Live long, and prosper,
Amy

Ericka Kammerer

June 30th 05, 10:17 PM

Tori M.

June 30th 05, 10:29 PM

"Ericka Kammerer" > wrote in message
...
> Amy wrote:
>
>> Is it possible that you perceived yourself as normal, logical, and
>> sane, while others around you said, "Oh yes, Dear, you're your usual
>> self," to your face, and made cuckoo signs behind your back? Because I
>> can't imagine having all of these hormones coursing through me, and NOT
>> being a little nuts.
>
> <snip>
>
>> I figure, it's part hormones, part anxiety (read: terror) about the
>> changes happening in our life, part fear of birth, and part plain old
>> nuts. You seriously aren't having any of this?
>
> I can't speak for KC, but I have to say that pregnancy
> doesn't really affect me that way. I get a bit (heh) grumpy if I'm
> tossing my cookies nonstop or if I'm in a lot of pain, but I
> don't really get emotionally wacky. But then again, I don't
> get PMS-y either. I'm sure I have my own brand of annoyances,
> but I don't seem to get that one. DH is appropriately grateful ;-)

I never really had any of that stuff either.. I was kinda sad that I did not
really crave anything in 2 pregnancies.. I must admit PMS hits hard lately..
well not since I started the "happy pills" lol

Tori

--
Xavier 10/04 "Hey mommy I can reach the middle of the coffee table if I
stand right here"
Bonnie 3/02 "No Xayur thats my blankie"
349.5/320/135

Amy

June 30th 05, 10:32 PM

Ericka Kammerer wrote:
> Amy wrote:

> > I figure, it's part hormones, part anxiety (read: terror) about the
> > changes happening in our life, part fear of birth, and part plain old
> > nuts. You seriously aren't having any of this?
>
> I can't speak for KC, but I have to say that pregnancy
> doesn't really affect me that way. I get a bit (heh) grumpy if I'm
> tossing my cookies nonstop or if I'm in a lot of pain, but I
> don't really get emotionally wacky. But then again, I don't
> get PMS-y either. I'm sure I have my own brand of annoyances,
> but I don't seem to get that one. DH is appropriately grateful ;-)

Well, I wouldn't expect YOU to get nuts, Ericka, you're far too logical
and informed. If the crazies strike, you can beat them down with
research and overwhelming, rational calm. But for the rest of us mere
mortals... ;)

You're lucky. Really, really lucky. The "I'm losing my mind" feeling
has been my #1 pregnancy complaint. It really interferes with my
ability to get anything done.

Amy

Amy

June 30th 05, 10:38 PM

Tori M. wrote:

> I never really had any of that stuff either.. I was kinda sad that I did not
> really crave anything in 2 pregnancies.. I must admit PMS hits hard lately..
> well not since I started the "happy pills" lol

I think happy pills would go a long way toward helping with the
crazies!

You're very lucky.

Amy

Amy

June 30th 05, 10:48 PM

Joybelle wrote:

> I know this is addressed to KC, but I hate to say it, Amy, I really don't
> get very crazy or hormonal toward my DH. I have been known to cry a little
> more at the end of pregnancy, but I don't go through much of a hormonal
> whiplash with my hubby. I don't think he could relate to Robert's post
> much.

I'm beginning to wonder if we need to take a poll of the DHs. :) I
mean, my mom didn't think that she was acting strangely when she was in
menopause, either. I finally had to have her best friend drop hints
about how much better she'd felt since going on hormones, etc, because
Mom was in MAJOR denial. (I told her best friend that Mom would kill
me if I suggested that she was in menopause, but that she'd take it
much more calmly if it came from a friend... Turned out that I was
correct.)

> Of the things you listed, I have to say the crying every now and then is the
> only thing I've really gone through. Sometimes I get really tired and just
> really quiet and go off to a little corner. Dh will ask if I'm okay and
> that's that when I tell him I just need a break.

I wonder if we're experiencing it more because we work together - so
we're together 24/7 and I get very little alone time. Maybe hiding in
a corner would help. I might try that.

Now that we're at the end of this process, I'm getting better at
managing the crazies, though. For example, he was playing a video game
the other night, and I found myself feel really lonely. I went in and
asked him to come sit with me on the couch and snuggle with me. I
managed to make this request without telling him that I was going to
throw the computer out the window, and without beating him about the
head and shoulders with the keyboard. I didn't even cry. If he had
said no, I might have cried... Maybe he's getting better at managing
me. :)

Very little of my crazies have come out in the form of anger, though,
except when it came to cir........n and to having my mom in the labor
room (and that's only because he was being So Damn Stubborn and
Unreasonable). Mostly, I've just been kind of clingy and needy.

> I'm strange, also, though, in that I don't become too uncomfortable until
> I'm a week past my date. :) Do you hate me??

'Course not. I'm a little jealous, but I don't hate you. :)

> (I admit nights suck because
> of peeing every hour and legs twitching, but the daytime isn't a big deal)

I wish I could figure out how to lay on my left side and elevate my
feet at the same time without feeling like I was in an advanced yoga
position. But at 33 weeks, I still have some nights when I don't wake
up to pee at all, and I'm not having any cramps or twitching, so you
can hate me, now, too. :)

Amy

Cuddlefish

June 30th 05, 11:13 PM

"KC" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> I was not like your wife at all during pg. I was my normal logical
> self, and would not hurt dh at all in any way physical or emotional. I
> was uncomfortable and in need of assistance, but not mean or capricious
> at all. When I see pg women behaving like that it baffles me. They
> must experience pg much differently than I do.

Me too. I am uncomfortable, sure, but that is not dh's fault. I have not had
any emotional outbursts or any of that stuff. Indeed, my sense of humour has
become quite legendary during this time as I find more to lampoon about
myself, LOL! ;-) I am every bit as rational and logical today as I was when
I was completing my math/stats degree... ;-) I'm not sure what taking my
frustrations out on dh would actually achieve?

However, given there is no typical pregnancy, I must add I believe there is
no typical pregnant woman... ;-)
--
Jacqueline
#1 Due late Jul/early Aug

Michelle J. Haines

June 30th 05, 11:16 PM

Ericka Kammerer wrote:
>
> I can't speak for KC, but I have to say that pregnancy
> doesn't really affect me that way. I get a bit (heh) grumpy if I'm
> tossing my cookies nonstop or if I'm in a lot of pain, but I
> don't really get emotionally wacky. But then again, I don't
> get PMS-y either. I'm sure I have my own brand of annoyances,
> but I don't seem to get that one. DH is appropriately grateful ;-)

I also get a bit more emotional, mostly with depression (partly because
I have to stop taking some of my meds), but I'm not really extreme about
it. I also don't have PMS.

Michelle
Flutist

Cuddlefish

June 30th 05, 11:19 PM

"Michelle J. Haines" > wrote in message
...
> Ericka Kammerer wrote:
>>
>> I can't speak for KC, but I have to say that pregnancy
>> doesn't really affect me that way. I get a bit (heh) grumpy if I'm
>> tossing my cookies nonstop or if I'm in a lot of pain, but I
>> don't really get emotionally wacky. But then again, I don't
>> get PMS-y either. I'm sure I have my own brand of annoyances,
>> but I don't seem to get that one. DH is appropriately grateful ;-)
>
> I also get a bit more emotional, mostly with depression (partly because I
> have to stop taking some of my meds), but I'm not really extreme about it.
> I also don't have PMS.

I have never had PMS before, and really have no idea what that is like.
Maybe that is related to why I am still on such an even keel with this
pregnancy which is now in its 36th week...

Worst still is I have never had a menstrual cramp and now with people
describing labour as extreme menstrual cramping I am freaking out! I have
never gotten to warm up! ;-)

--
Jacqueline
#1 Due late Jul/early Aug

Emily

June 30th 05, 11:27 PM

Cuddlefish wrote:
> I have never had PMS before, and really have no idea what that is like.
> Maybe that is related to why I am still on such an even keel with this
> pregnancy which is now in its 36th week...
>
> Worst still is I have never had a menstrual cramp and now with people
> describing labour as extreme menstrual cramping I am freaking out! I have
> never gotten to warm up! ;-)
>

Maybe you'll have a really easy time of it then with labor.
I almost never get menstrual cramps (or PMS) either, and for
me labor was really a matter of extreme discomfort, rather
than pain... Here's hoping this one is even less extreme.

Emily, hoping to experience an unaugmented labor this time

Michelle J. Haines

June 30th 05, 11:28 PM

Cuddlefish wrote:
>
> Worst still is I have never had a menstrual cramp and now with people
> describing labour as extreme menstrual cramping I am freaking out! I have
> never gotten to warm up! ;-)

Now, -that- I've had. I've always had horribly painful periods
(dysmennorhea, it's called) at least until between the 2nd and 3rd kids,
I think. Before I got pregnant the first time, it culminated in
vomiting, dizziness, pain, and all-over mental confusion the first day.
Thank God THAT's not so bad any more.

Michelle
Flutist

Joybelle

July 1st 05, 12:32 AM

"Amy" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> KC wrote:
>
> > Robert I know you are not looking for someone to say what I am about to
> > say, but I feel it needs to be said.
> >
> > I was not like your wife at all during pg. I was my normal logical
> > self, and would not hurt dh at all in any way physical or emotional. I
> > was uncomfortable and in need of assistance, but not mean or capricious
> > at all. When I see pg women behaving like that it baffles me. They
> > must experience pg much differently than I do.
>
> KC, I mean this in the kindest, most loving way possible...
>
> Is it possible that you perceived yourself as normal, logical, and
> sane, while others around you said, "Oh yes, Dear, you're your usual
> self," to your face, and made cuckoo signs behind your back? Because I
> can't imagine having all of these hormones coursing through me, and NOT
> being a little nuts.

I know this is addressed to KC, but I hate to say it, Amy, I really don't
get very crazy or hormonal toward my DH. I have been known to cry a little
more at the end of pregnancy, but I don't go through much of a hormonal
whiplash with my hubby. I don't think he could relate to Robert's post
much.

> I mean, I haven't thrown things (yet) either, but I've said some stuff
> to my husband without thinking of how they'd make him feel (mainly that
> this birth thing is The Amy Show, and if he doesn't like X, Y, and Z
> then he can have the next one and do it however he pleases; and that
> we'll do certain controversial things over my cold, dead, rotting
> corpse, and so on...). That, and the crying for no reason at 9 pm, or
> crying for no reason in general, it just happens. You haven't had any
> of this? None? Seriously? Do you never get PMS? You haven't cried
> at a Hallmark commercial? You haven't seen booties and hyperventilated
> ("Oh! My! God! They! Expect! ME! To! Raise! A! CHILD?!?!?)? You
> haven't needed to have coconut ice cream on such a profound level that
> you were willing to shave 10 years off the end of your life for a
> double scoop of it, provided that it materialize in your presence right
> NOW!?
>
> I figure, it's part hormones, part anxiety (read: terror) about the
> changes happening in our life, part fear of birth, and part plain old
> nuts. You seriously aren't having any of this?

Of the things you listed, I have to say the crying every now and then is the
only thing I've really gone through. Sometimes I get really tired and just
really quiet and go off to a little corner. Dh will ask if I'm okay and
that's that when I tell him I just need a break.

I'm strange, also, though, in that I don't become too uncomfortable until
I'm a week past my date. :) Do you hate me?? (I admit nights suck because
of peeing every hour and legs twitching, but the daytime isn't a big deal)

Joy

Ericka Kammerer

July 1st 05, 03:53 AM

Amy wrote:

> You're lucky. Really, really lucky. The "I'm losing my mind" feeling
> has been my #1 pregnancy complaint. It really interferes with my
> ability to get anything done.

I am very grateful it doesn't hit me that way. I certainly
know many people it *does* hit that way who are otherwise very
rational folk.

Best wishes,
Ericka

July 1st 05, 09:53 AM

"Michelle J. Haines" > wrote in message
...
> Cuddlefish wrote:
>>
>> Worst still is I have never had a menstrual cramp and now with people
>> describing labour as extreme menstrual cramping I am freaking out! I have
>> never gotten to warm up! ;-)
>
> Now, -that- I've had. I've always had horribly painful periods
> (dysmennorhea, it's called) at least until between the 2nd and 3rd kids, I
> think. Before I got pregnant the first time, it culminated in vomiting,
> dizziness, pain, and all-over mental confusion the first day. Thank God
> THAT's not so bad any more.
>
> Michelle
> Flutist

How do you think labor compared to the dysmenorrhea? I have had that before
and wondered how similar it was to labor. The objective pain never seemed
to be the worst part, it was the perception of pain, GI stuff and confusion
(how *does* that phone work so I can call in sick?). Lots of labor
descriptions talk about those things too, so I was curious.

Amy
EDD 11/25/05

July 1st 05, 09:59 AM

Amy wrote:
> Is it possible that you perceived yourself as normal, logical, and
> sane, while others around you said, "Oh yes, Dear, you're your usual
> self," to your face, and made cuckoo signs behind your back? Because I
> can't imagine having all of these hormones coursing through me, and NOT
> being a little nuts.

I really don't think this is the case.

>
> I mean, I haven't thrown things (yet) either, but I've said some stuff
> to my husband without thinking of how they'd make him feel (mainly that
> this birth thing is The Amy Show, and if he doesn't like X, Y, and Z
> then he can have the next one and do it however he pleases; and that
> we'll do certain controversial things over my cold, dead, rotting
> corpse, and so on...). That, and the crying for no reason at 9 pm, or
> crying for no reason in general, it just happens. You haven't had any
> of this? None? Seriously?

I had nothing that you mentioned there.

Do you never get PMS? You haven't cried
> at a Hallmark commercial?

I don't really get PMS no; dh is happy about this. That is not to say
I have never cried. I cry both when pg and not. It is a good stress
reliever sometimes. I will admit that I do more of the hallmark moment
type of crying when pg. I am very moved by thoughts of babies and
children when I am pg.

You haven't seen booties and hyperventilated
> ("Oh! My! God! They! Expect! ME! To! Raise! A! CHILD?!?!?)? You
> haven't needed to have coconut ice cream on such a profound level that
> you were willing to shave 10 years off the end of your life for a
> double scoop of it, provided that it materialize in your presence right
> NOW!?

Nope, none of that. One thing is, I had to ttc for 6 years before I
became pg with my first dd, so I knew I wanted to raise her, and I had
more aversions than cravings.

>
> I figure, it's part hormones, part anxiety (read: terror) about the
> changes happening in our life, part fear of birth, and part plain old
> nuts. You seriously aren't having any of this?

No, just the extra hallmark moment crying. Perhaps it is just my
temperment, or perhaps it is because I have really been through alot of
tough luck with health problems and other things that are alot scarier
than child birth and raising a child, so I wasn't scared of it.

>
> If so, we seriously need to consider the thought that you may be a
> Vulcan.
>

Lol. I am a cuddly person with emotions, not purely logical, but not
volatile.

KC

July 1st 05, 10:06 AM

Cuddlefish wrote:
> Worst still is I have never had a menstrual cramp and now with people
> describing labour as extreme menstrual cramping I am freaking out! I have
> never gotten to warm up! ;-)

I never have menstrual cramps either. What I think really helped to
deal with labor was the knowlege of what was happening with the uterine
muscles and visualizing the cervix relaxing and opening with each
contraction. I also took tylenol for labor. I figured I take it to
alleviate other muscle pains, so what the heck. Doing those things in
my third labor really made it more like work than pain.

KC

Robert Powell

July 1st 05, 10:21 AM

<snip>
> ("Oh! My! God! They! Expect! ME! To! Raise! A! CHILD?!?!?)?
<snip>

Amy,

That's nothing to do with pregnancy that's something all first parents ask
themselves at some poitn or other - regardless of gender! *grin*

Bob

July 1st 05, 10:58 AM

"Ilse Witch" > wrote in message
...
> > Welcome to the irrational world of women, especially pregnant ones. It
> > is
> only an increase of the normal state of women. When we're not pregnant we
> behave the same, only we manage to hide it much better ;-)
>

I so agree with this! Before pregnancy I was an anxious, worrying type
person and now I'm that X2. Strangely, I'm becoming more assertive though.
I'm not having any new thoughts/feelings, just expressing them more. For
example, when I told my sister what we are naming the baby, she said the two
names "don't really go together". Pre-pregnancy it would have hurt my
feelings but I wouldn't say anything for fear of upsetting my sister. Now,
however, I told her that I understand she has opinions, but I don't really
want to hear things like that and if she can't say something nice she could
just grunt neutrally (I said this with levity). Amazingly, she took it well
and we had a good conversation. The world didn't stop because I expressed
displeasure with another person's actions!
I am more "me" than before. More needy/clingy at times, more happy at
times, more depressed at others, more anxious, more obsessive. The only
thing I'm not is more intelligent...quite the contrary! (Where are my keys?
Who am I calling? Did I eat today?)

Amy
EDD 11/25/05 girl

Michelle J. Haines

July 1st 05, 02:13 PM

V. wrote:
>
> How do you think labor compared to the dysmenorrhea? I have had that before
> and wondered how similar it was to labor. The objective pain never seemed
> to be the worst part, it was the perception of pain, GI stuff and confusion
> (how *does* that phone work so I can call in sick?). Lots of labor
> descriptions talk about those things too, so I was curious.

:/ My labors are bad, and I'm not at all coherent for them without pain
killers. My husband informs me I attempted to get up and leave out of
the last one. If the pain is controlled, so am I, but once it gets to a
certain point, I have a dissociative disorder than kicks in, and I'm
mentally not all there.

Michelle
Flutist

Nikki

July 1st 05, 02:41 PM

KC wrote:

What I think really helped to
> deal with labor was the knowlege of what was happening with the
> uterine muscles and visualizing the cervix relaxing and opening with
> each contraction.

I found visualization of that sort *very* helpful in my second labor. I
sort of visualized babies head coming out of a turtleneck sweater with each
contraction :-) It helped to focus on the labor as being 'productive and
useful' rather then something to avoid. Avoiding it isn't possible anyway
but I sort of got into that spot the first time and then I was 'behind the
pain' so to speak.
--
Nikki

Mary W.

July 1st 05, 02:48 PM

Nikki wrote:

> KC wrote:
>
> What I think really helped to
>
>>deal with labor was the knowlege of what was happening with the
>>uterine muscles and visualizing the cervix relaxing and opening with
>>each contraction.
>
>
> I found visualization of that sort *very* helpful in my second labor. I
> sort of visualized babies head coming out of a turtleneck sweater with each
> contraction :-) It helped to focus on the labor as being 'productive and
> useful' rather then something to avoid. Avoiding it isn't possible anyway
> but I sort of got into that spot the first time and then I was 'behind the
> pain' so to speak.

"Behind the pain" is a great way to put it. With my labor with DD2,
I found that even at its worst, if I could stay on top of the
contractions, relax and breath through them, I was OK. Unfortunately,
every 4th or 5th one, I got behind, and really had a hard time.
Thankfully, this was transition :), so when I got through
that and to the pushing stage things were better.

Mary W.

Cuddlefish

July 1st 05, 06:11 PM

"KC" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>
>
> Cuddlefish wrote:
>> Worst still is I have never had a menstrual cramp and now with people
>> describing labour as extreme menstrual cramping I am freaking out! I have
>> never gotten to warm up! ;-)
>
> I never have menstrual cramps either. What I think really helped to
> deal with labor was the knowlege of what was happening with the uterine
> muscles and visualizing the cervix relaxing and opening with each
> contraction. I also took tylenol for labor. I figured I take it to
> alleviate other muscle pains, so what the heck. Doing those things in
> my third labor really made it more like work than pain.
>
> KC

That is really helpful! My doula also suggested that, so I am somewhat
comforted now. :-)

Thank you!
--
Jacqueline
#1 Due late Jul/early Aug

Amy

July 1st 05, 08:48 PM

Joybelle wrote:
> "Amy" > wrote in message
> ups.com...

> > I wonder if we're experiencing it more because we work together - so
> > we're together 24/7 and I get very little alone time. Maybe hiding in
> > a corner would help. I might try that.
>
> Y'know working together could definitely be part of it!! Alone time is
> important, I think. Even with three kids I still make sure I find a corner
> or lock them outside for a bit...lol

Even when we're doing separate things (he's playing a game, I'm
watching TV or reading, for example) I don't often seek out solitude.
We spend the vast majority of our time within about 10 feet of each
other. You know the parallel play thing that toddlers do? We do that
- together, but doing separate things. It's very rare that we're out
of earshot, I'd say less than 3 hours a day, and many days it's less
than one hour. Some days, it's not at all! Most of the people I know
say, "I would KILL my spouse if we spent that much time together," but
it really works for us.

> > Now that we're at the end of this process, I'm getting better at
> > managing the crazies, though. For example, he was playing a video game
> > the other night, and I found myself feel really lonely. I went in and
> > asked him to come sit with me on the couch and snuggle with me. I
> > managed to make this request without telling him that I was going to
> > throw the computer out the window, and without beating him about the
> > head and shoulders with the keyboard. I didn't even cry. If he had
> > said no, I might have cried... Maybe he's getting better at managing
> > me. :)
>
> Oh, my, you sound so, so much like my sister. That's not a bad thing, it's
> just that is so much something she would do/want to do. She's due three
> weeks before I am. :)

Sometimes, 10 feet is just too much distance. :) I've been very
clingy throughout the pregnancy - more than I ever was before.
Sometimes I remind myself of a teenaged girl who's madly in love and
can't keep her hands off of her boyfriend. I just feel safer when I'm
close to him, preferably holding his hand. He hasn't complained,
though, so I guess it's not too hateful for him.

> Nope, don't hate you at all. :) I think the twitching is finally abating as
> I didn't have any last night. It started about a week ago, and I have to
> wonder if it isn't due to stress.

Might be potassium, too. You might try eating more bananas.

> As for the peeing, well, I have to go at
> least once a night while not pregnant, so I'm kinda used to it. I have a
> notoriously small bladder, or one that fill really, really fast! Every u/s
> I've had they have me go bathroom because my bladder is so full.

Now you sound like my sister! We tease her that she's been in every
public restroom in the state!

> Yeah, the left-side lying stuff sucks.

The only way I can figure out to lay on my left side with my feet
elevated is in a hammock, and we don't have one. :(

Amy

Amy

July 1st 05, 08:51 PM

Joybelle wrote:

> I don't have much for cravings either. And definitely no strange ones.
> y'know pickles and ice cream together or something like that. This is my
> fourth pregnancy, and I have had some really strong desires for malt.
> Malts, Whoppers, malted on my ice cream.

My weirdest one hasn't been a craving so much as it was just an odd
combination - I had tortilla chips and guacomole, then an ice cream
sandwich, then more tortilla chips and guacomole, in rapid succession.
Grossed my husband out... But it isn't like I put the guacomole (or
however you spell that) ON the ice cream sandwich!

I haven't been able to get enough Mexican and Italian food - it must be
something in the tomatoes that my body is trying to get. And
guacomole. I think I've eaten 10 gallons of it. All that healthy fat,
building lots of brains, I guess.

Amy

Joybelle

July 1st 05, 09:03 PM

"Amy" > wrote in message
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>
> Joybelle wrote:
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> > I know this is addressed to KC, but I hate to say it, Amy, I really
don't
> > get very crazy or hormonal toward my DH. I have been known to cry a
little
> > more at the end of pregnancy, but I don't go through much of a hormonal
> > whiplash with my hubby. I don't think he could relate to Robert's post
> > much.
>
> I'm beginning to wonder if we need to take a poll of the DHs. :) I
> mean, my mom didn't think that she was acting strangely when she was in
> menopause, either. I finally had to have her best friend drop hints
> about how much better she'd felt since going on hormones, etc, because
> Mom was in MAJOR denial. (I told her best friend that Mom would kill
> me if I suggested that she was in menopause, but that she'd take it
> much more calmly if it came from a friend... Turned out that I was
> correct.)

Nah, he's actually said as much. :)

> > Of the things you listed, I have to say the crying every now and then is
the
> > only thing I've really gone through. Sometimes I get really tired and
just
> > really quiet and go off to a little corner. Dh will ask if I'm okay and
> > that's that when I tell him I just need a break.
>
> I wonder if we're experiencing it more because we work together - so
> we're together 24/7 and I get very little alone time. Maybe hiding in
> a corner would help. I might try that.

Y'know working together could definitely be part of it!! Alone time is
important, I think. Even with three kids I still make sure I find a corner
or lock them outside for a bit...lol

> Now that we're at the end of this process, I'm getting better at
> managing the crazies, though. For example, he was playing a video game
> the other night, and I found myself feel really lonely. I went in and
> asked him to come sit with me on the couch and snuggle with me. I
> managed to make this request without telling him that I was going to
> throw the computer out the window, and without beating him about the
> head and shoulders with the keyboard. I didn't even cry. If he had
> said no, I might have cried... Maybe he's getting better at managing
> me. :)

Oh, my, you sound so, so much like my sister. That's not a bad thing, it's
just that is so much something she would do/want to do. She's due three
weeks before I am. :)

> Very little of my crazies have come out in the form of anger, though,
> except when it came to cir........n and to having my mom in the labor
> room (and that's only because he was being So Damn Stubborn and
> Unreasonable). Mostly, I've just been kind of clingy and needy.

Oh, yes, that would certainly push my buttons. My hubby is pretty laid back
( I think their personalities play into this whole thing, too), and for the
most part he doesn't get Too Stubborn or Unreasonable. The funny things is,
he's only been that way on a couple of occasions, and it wasn't while I was
pregnant.

> > I'm strange, also, though, in that I don't become too uncomfortable
until
> > I'm a week past my date. :) Do you hate me??
>
> 'Course not. I'm a little jealous, but I don't hate you. :)

I'm glad you don't hate me. :)

> > (I admit nights suck because
> > of peeing every hour and legs twitching, but the daytime isn't a big
deal)
>
> I wish I could figure out how to lay on my left side and elevate my
> feet at the same time without feeling like I was in an advanced yoga
> position. But at 33 weeks, I still have some nights when I don't wake
> up to pee at all, and I'm not having any cramps or twitching, so you
> can hate me, now, too. :)

Nope, don't hate you at all. :) I think the twitching is finally abating as
I didn't have any last night. It started about a week ago, and I have to
wonder if it isn't due to stress. As for the peeing, well, I have to go at
least once a night while not pregnant, so I'm kinda used to it. I have a
notoriously small bladder, or one that fill really, really fast! Every u/s
I've had they have me go bathroom because my bladder is so full.

Yeah, the left-side lying stuff sucks.

Joy