Does your child drink juice?

[Carol Ann]

Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

How do you get your child to consume milk?

Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

~Carol Ann

[Nan]

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 02:15:09 GMT, "Carol Ann"
> wrote:

>Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

The 5 yo does, but the 1 yo doesn't unless she's constipated.

>How do you get your child to consume milk?

From her bottle or sippy

>Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I don't buy it, but I think i'd allow it as a rare treat. I'd
probably be likely to give her iced tea instead of soda, though.

>Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

:-)

Nan

[Caledonia]

Carol Ann wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Apple cider (Golden Russet), during the fall. About a glass or two a
day for both daughters. Otherwise juice is pretty rare -- although we
did have to get inventive when confronted with a case of grapefruit
we'd purchased from the local Lion's club last winter. We eat a fair
deal of fruit, and rarely have juice around.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

For DD1(6), she chooses milk (1%) happily when offered a choice of milk
or water. That's the whole spectrum of choice here for children in my
house. DD2 (2.5) drinks milk or water with equal frequency, but would
probably prefer to nurse instead (*not* an option we offer with meals).
For school lunches, DD1 either buys milk or takes a fluroidated water
bottle (those mini-bottles) or takes milk in a reusable plastic
container.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I don't drink soda, so I don't buy it. I do buy tonic water for gin and
tonics in the summer, but that's not for the kids. DH and I consume
ungodly quantities of coffee, and the sporadic bottle of wine with
dinner -- but for the kids we offer milk, seltzer, or plain tap (well)
water. And cider, in season, but it's seasonal. Again, though, we
always have fruit around for them to eat, so I'm not really concerned
they're missing anything.

> Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

No problem -- I always find it interesting to learn about what everyone
else is doing :)

Caledonia

[Emily]

The standard choies at our house a milk or water.
Juice is an occasional treat (though I think it's
offered semi-regularly at daycare). Sometimes we'll
get a bottle of fresh-squeezed orange juice to go
with breakfast. Soda is not something we keep in the
house, but I think we started allowing DS to try it
as a special treat when we're at parties or whatever
from about 2yo. He's not terribly fond of carbonated
drinks, so didn't really get into it. I'd rather
give him the occasional taste of regular (sugar-sweetened)
soda than something with an artificial sweetener.
My main concerns with his diet are 1) a healthy balance
for now and 2) establishing healthy habits for later.
So, since he only gets soda occasionally, I'm really
more concerned about setting up expectations that
sweet drinks are a regular thing than about the calories
in the drink itself.

It's never been difficult to get DS to drink milk.
He's a dairy fiend (milk, cheese, cream cheese,
ice cream if he can get it, yogurt). He usually picks
milk in the "milk or water" choice. We keep 1% or
2% milk around for him, and I've not seen him notice
a difference between the two. If he didn't like
milk and always chose water, I'd look to other ways
to get the protein and calcium provided by milk into
his diet.

Emily
--
DS 5/02
EDD Labor Day 9/5/05

[Jamie Clark]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>
> How do you get your child to consume milk?
>
> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>
> Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.
>
> ~Carol Ann

Taylor still is heavily into milk and juice. I always water the juice down,
so an 8 ounce serving is usually about 5-6 ounces of juice and 2-3 ounces of
water. She'll drink 3-4 sippy cups per day of juice, and another 3-4 sippy
cups a day of milk. She'd skip food all together and drink milk for all her
meals if I let her.

Diet soda for you or Morgan? : ) I do diet soda -- Pepsi One. I use Equal
or Splenda in my morning coffee. I have let Taylor have sips of my diet
raspberry Snapple iced tea. She liked it. I wouldn't let her drink it on a
regular basis, but a few tablespoons here and there won't hurt.
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[Ericka Kammerer]

Carol Ann wrote:

> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Occasionally, maybe a couple ounces some days.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

Add chocolate ;-) My first two were milk fiends,
but #3 didn't really take to milk all that much. Mostly,
I don't really care (she mostly drinks water) as she has
plenty other sources of calcium, protein, and fat. If I
feel like she hasn't gotten enough of that sort of thing
and I want her to get some, then making some chocolate
milk will typically do the trick (e.g., if she doesn't
seem to want to eat and I know she's going to wake up
starving in the middle of the night). It used to take more
chocolate, but now just a little will do the trick.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I wouldn't give it except as an occasional
treat. Better that their main beverage be water.

Best wishes,
Ericka

[Plissken]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Yes but only a cup every 4 days or so.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

Add about a tablespoon of tea into it tell her it's tea and she will drink
it. Or add a bit of Ovaltine and tell her it's chocolate milk :o)

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
would not give my child soda at all diet or not. But a tablespoon of tea in
a 1/2 cup or more of milk is okay. Gets her to drink her milk.

[Mum of Two]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

No, but when she does I'll dilute it 10 parts water to 1 juice. I haven't
stopped her having it, we just haven't bought any lately.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

She doesn't have it except in cereal, I only offer water.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I think I'd sooner give my child sweetened soda as an occasional treat, than
one with Splenda! Isn't that the sweetener they make by adding chlorine to
sugar to make it so many times sweeter? Personally, I wouldn't give
artificial sweeteners to children at all, I'd rather let them have refined
sugar once in a blue moon and brush their teeth afterwards.


--
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& Ana born screaming 30/06/04
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[Sidheag McCormack]

Carol Ann writes:

[Colin is 20 months old]

> Does your child drink juice?

Yes.

> If so, how much?

An inch (of "multivitamin juice") in a small glass every morning as part of
the breakfast ritual. Apart from that, juice is a special occasion grown-up
treat - if we're all out at a cafe or something, Colin gets orange juice.
In this case it's undiluted and in an open cup, maybe with a straw.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I breastfeed :-) I've made no efforts to get him to drink cow's milk, if
that's what you mean. At nursery he gets cow's milk with afternoon snack.
At home he gets cow's milk on cereal, but otherwise I don't offer it. He
drinks lots of water.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

For me, this is in the category of things he can have one small sip of to
taste if he asks, but no more. (In fact practically all drinks other than
water, milk and juice as above are in this category. Coffee, tea, beer,
wine, G&T ... I probably wouldn't let him sip my neat cask-strength whisky
but that's for after he's in bed anyway so the question hasn't arisen :-)

I think it's the acidity that would stop me letting him drink it by the
glassful. I wouldn't myself worry about small quantities of Splenda, but
others would I know.

Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003

[Jenrose]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>
DD1: Yes, but only when it's around (but she's 12, so it doesn't count.)
DD2: Only boobie juice. And who knows how much...lol!

> How do you get your child to consume milk?
DD1: I don't. She's allergic.
DD2: I stick the boob in her mouth.
>
> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>
DD1: No diet, no caffeine, period. Soda is fine, in moderation.
DD2: She's 4 months old.

Jenrose

[Dagny]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>
A few ounces a day of prune juice. I keep prune juice and orange juice
around, and she may have either. She's on a bit of a prune juice kick right
now.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?
>

She's nursing 4x day. She asks for cow's milk on occasion. Research seems
to show cow's milk is not good for toddlers.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>

I think so.

[Sue]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

When they were smaller, no. Now at ages 12, 10, and 8 yes. We have a glass
of orange juice for breakfast and sometimes other juices during the day, but
not a whole lot. If they drink juice at all, I make sure it is 100% juice so
at least it's a bit healthier. When they were younger, apple juice gave them
diaper rashes and it's not really all that nutritious, so they didn't have
it much. When they start preschool, is when they would have more juice.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I didn't have any problems getting the girls to drink milk. I would
sometimes give them chocolate milk, but that was more of a treat. I would
just introduce milk into a sippy cup and they would drink it.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

No diet pop for the kids. It is linked to auto-immune problems in kids and
since we are predisposed to that, when and if they drink pop, it is the real
thing. Caffeine is limited only to early in the day on a weekend, if they
are going to have it at all. Pop is more of a treat than anything and they
definitely don't drink pop on a daily basis. Choices here are usually milk
or water, juice sometimes and then pop on special occasions.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

[Sue]

"Mum of Two" > wrote in message
> I think I'd sooner give my child sweetened soda as an occasional treat,
than
> one with Splenda! Isn't that the sweetener they make by adding chlorine to
> sugar to make it so many times sweeter?

No, it's not. You are thinking of aspartame. Splenda is definitely one of
the diet sugars that hasn't been shown to have any bad side effects in
people at all.
I use it every day in my coffeee.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

[oregonchick]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

What age? My daughter started drinking diluted applejuice fairly young, but
at 8 yrs old, obviously she drinks everything now.
>
> How do you get your child to consume milk?

It was never an issue. She loves milk. But I also drink alot of milk, so
maybe it's by example. Do you drink it? If she/he won't drink it plain, I
don't see a reason not to add some ovaltine (contains vitamins) as long as
your child is an appropriate age.
>
> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

again, it depends on the age. It's not so much the sugar (in my opinion)
that is so bad about soda, it's the other properties that get me. I believe
it takes calcium out of bones - something you don't want in a developing
child. My daughter though (again age 8) is allowed an occasional soda.
More often she's drinking crystal lite, good old plain water, ice tea, juice
or milk.

[firedancer]

> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

My kids do, yes. They are 9, 6 and 21 mos.
The older 2 have juice boxes in their lunches during school. I buy
concentrated apple, orange, cranberry during the summer. The baby drinks
maybe a sippy cup a day full.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

My daughter won't touch it. I dont drink it either. My middle son loves it
and drinks 3 glasses a day at least. The baby I give him milk with dinner,
sometimes mixed with chocolate but they will both drink it either way.

>
> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

No diet soda at all. I stay away from anything with artificial sweeteners.
Im a big soda drinker as is my husband and we let the older kids have it.

Kari
mom to Kaylie, Noah and Xander

[Marie]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

She doesn't, and none of us drink it, anyway. I would rather give her whole
fruit as it has more fiber.

She drinks water out of her sippy cup all day.

>
> How do you get your child to consume milk?
>

She took to goat's milk after she developed a reaction to cow's milk when
she turned one. I hold an open cup with a straw for her to drink out of.
Sippy cups take too long for her to finish it.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

To me, an absolute no-no. We are a non-soda-drinking family. Not saying she
will never have pop, but it will be a treat once in a great while when she
is old enough to request it if she wants it.

>
> Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.
>
> ~Carol Ann

Marie
DD-17 mo

[Jess]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
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> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

About 4-6 ounces, daily.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

We had to offer it alone a few times before she would.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I wouldn't, but that's because she's still gaining weight slowly and I'd
rather get something with substantive calories into her.

Jess

[Cathy Weeks]

Carol Ann wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Yes. I try to limit it to no more than about 4 ounces per day. It's
OJ, not apple, though she likes the latter, she's not crazy about it
the way she is about OJ.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I pour her glass of milk and have it available at mealtimes.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I drink caffiene-free diet coke (with nutrasweet, can't stand splenda
coke) and let her have sips of it. I suspect that she has a total
intake of no more than an ounce or perhaps two (and that's pushing it)
per day.

She also like drinking our chilled culligan water.

Cathy Weeks

[Melanie]

Carol Ann wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Only occasionally...1-2 times/week as a treat...recently bought a yummy
strawberry banana organic juice...she always has water available in a
sippy cup...recently read though that juice a couple times a week is
supposed to prevent altzheimer's..?!
>
> How do you get your child to consume milk?

She's not very fond of milk...we put it in her warm cereal in the
morning...she loves cheese and yogurt...I don't worry much at this point
because she still nurses at least 6x/day...
>
> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I wouldn't...I don't trust the sweeteners that are out there...I don't
think she'd like the carbonation either...
>
> Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

No problem...it was fun reading everyone's responses...
>
> ~Carol Ann

Melanie
Mama to 15 month old boobie monster!

[Emily Roysdon]

"Carol Ann" > wrote:

> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

My kids are 5 and 7, but they do not drink juice except on extremely rare
occasions. Twice a year or so, I will have OJ in the house, and maybe they
will have half a glass. They never developed a taste for it, which was my
plan.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I'm assuming you mean cow's milk. I didn't worry about it when they were
little, as they nursed until 5.5 and 4.5. Both seemed slightly sensitive to
it when we tried it a few times, and they still don't sit around drinking it
from a glass. They consume plenty of (mostly organic) dairy in other forms,
but on the rare occasion that they want something like chocolate milk, they
have it with almond, soy, or rice milk.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

Heck yeah, but that's my rule for myself as well. I just don't drink soda
or sweetened drinks, and haven't since Noah was a baby. I grew up in an
all-soda, all the time household, and I have had the dental and weight
problems to show for it. I was not about to do that to my kids, and I
didn't want to be like their dad's house where only the adults were allowed
to have it, which made it a temptation beyond what it should have been.
Generally, I like to be a good role model, without having too many "Mama may
do this but you may not" rules, and food/beverages are no exception.

> Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

I might be a bit hardcore on this issue, but I see no real reason to
introduce or push juice, soda, or cow's milk into a child's diet,
particularly a nursing child. My kids are so used to water as a beverage,
they don't like sweetened drinks of any kind, and it's so nice to know that
they're developing healthy habits. I make sure they take vitamins, and eat
varied diets, but I can't think of a single good thing that comes from
making anything other than water their primary beverage. People IRL are
always so surprised that my kids don't *want* anything but water to drink,
but duh, when it's all you know, it's the norm for you. Kinda like those
breastfed babies that never drink from a bottle, you know?


Good luck,


--
Emily Roysdon
mama to Noah Joshua (7!) & Rebekah Grace (5!)

[Mum of Two]

"Sue" > wrote in message
...
> "Mum of Two" > wrote in message
>> I think I'd sooner give my child sweetened soda as an occasional treat,
> than
>> one with Splenda! Isn't that the sweetener they make by adding chlorine
>> to
>> sugar to make it so many times sweeter?
>
> No, it's not. You are thinking of aspartame.

No, I remembered right - Splenda, or sucralose, is made by adding chlorine
molecules to sugar molecules:

http://www.wholefoods.com/healthinfo/sucralose.html

Splenda is definitely one of
> the diet sugars that hasn't been shown to have any bad side effects in
> people at all.

It hasn't been extensively tested, and it caused DNA damage in the
gastrointestinal organs of mice.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=pubmed&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=12160896&query_hl=1

Personally I wouldn't give it to my children. I drink coffee - coffee has
been used for centuries and the effects of caffiene have been studied over a
much longer period of time and in much greater depth than sucralose. I
consider coffee safe for me in moderation, but I still wouldn't give it to
my daughter.
I'd rather she didn't develop a taste for sweet foods in the first place,
and that her sugar intake came from natural food sources. When she does have
the occasional, sweet processed treat as will happen when she's older, I'd
rather she had a small amount of sugar than a small amount of artificial
sweetener.


--
Amy
Mum to Carlos born sleeping 20/11/02,
& Ana born screaming 30/06/04
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http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/ana%5Fj%5F2004/
My blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/querer-hijo-querer-hija/

[Amy]

Mum of Two wrote:

> I'd rather she didn't develop a taste for sweet foods in the first place,
> and that her sugar intake came from natural food sources. When she does have
> the occasional, sweet processed treat as will happen when she's older, I'd
> rather she had a small amount of sugar than a small amount of artificial
> sweetener.

Folks concerned about refined white sugars might check at the health
food store. Stevia is made from a plant, and is supposed to be every
bit as safe as sugar (not chemical, not causing cancer in lab animals,
etc.). Fructose might also be a good sugar alternative for kids. I
guess neither is a true "sugar alternative" but they might be a bit
healthier than C&H Pure Cane Sugar from Hawaii....

Amy

[zeldabee]

"Carol Ann" > wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Yes, too much. I'm cutting him back, not offering it, distracting him with
other things when I can, not giving him more than one 8 oz sippy of diluted
juice per day. He can have all the water he wants.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I don't "get" him to drink it, he does or he doesn't. Usually he doesn't.
Every once in a while he'll surprise me. He loves cheese and plain yogurt,
so I definitely don't worry about calcium.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I wouldn't. Ew. Sprogly does love soda pop, but I've recently discovered
that it's the bubbles that he likes, so he'll be happy with plain seltzer
water. I'm happy, too, because it means fewer sticky messes.

--
z e l d a b e e @ p a n i x . c o m http://NewsReader.Com/

[Sue]

"Mum of Two" > wrote in message
> No, I remembered right - Splenda, or sucralose, is made by adding chlorine
> molecules to sugar molecules:

Okay. I stand corrected.

> Personally I wouldn't give it to my children.

If you read my post, I said I *didn't* give it to the kids. However, I use
it all the time for myself. In my post also, I put that using artificial
sweeteners in children caused a higher rate of auto-immune problems. I also
said that if my kids drink pop at all, it is the regular stuff.

> I'd rather she didn't develop a taste for sweet foods in the first place,
> and that her sugar intake came from natural food sources. When she does
>have the occasional, sweet processed treat as will happen when she's older,
>I'd rather she had a small amount of sugar than a small amount of
artificial
> sweetener.

Sure not having them drink or eat anything bad for them probably would be
ideal, I just believe in everything in moderation. I also don't want to set
them up for failure when they are older by forbidding everything. They can
indulge in sweet foods and food that are not necessarily good for you in
moderation. What I have done is not forbidden anything and so far, they are
making good choices for themselves at 12, 10 and 8 years old.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

[Mum of Two]

"Sue" > wrote in message
...
> "Mum of Two" > wrote in message
>> No, I remembered right - Splenda, or sucralose, is made by adding
>> chlorine
>> molecules to sugar molecules:
>
> Okay. I stand corrected.
>
>> Personally I wouldn't give it to my children.
>
> If you read my post, I said I *didn't* give it to the kids. However, I use
> it all the time for myself. In my post also, I put that using artificial
> sweeteners in children caused a higher rate of auto-immune problems. I
> also
> said that if my kids drink pop at all, it is the regular stuff.

Ah, I just read your post.

>> I'd rather she didn't develop a taste for sweet foods in the first place,
>> and that her sugar intake came from natural food sources. When she does
>>have the occasional, sweet processed treat as will happen when she's
>>older,
>>I'd rather she had a small amount of sugar than a small amount of
> artificial
>> sweetener.
>
> Sure not having them drink or eat anything bad for them probably would be
> ideal, I just believe in everything in moderation.

So do I :-)

I also don't want to set
> them up for failure when they are older by forbidding everything. They can
> indulge in sweet foods and food that are not necessarily good for you in
> moderation. What I have done is not forbidden anything and so far, they
> are
> making good choices for themselves at 12, 10 and 8 years old.

I also think there's a difference when you're talking about children between
8 & 12, and toddlers. You can't expect a toddler to make healthy choices for
themselves if you offer _unhealthy_ ones from such a young age. Toddlers eat
such small amounts anyway, it makes sense to ensure that everything they eat
is going to offer some nutritional benefit. A friend of the family raised
her toddler junk-food free, and at three she'd ask for one of her 'special
treats' which was raisins and pumpkin seeds. She's about 4 1/2 now, and
still has 'special treats' along with the occasional chocolate gold coin -
but she knows about moderation, why she has to limit her intake of certain
foods and why she has to eat more of others.
I am a big believer in moderation, but I don't see the point in making junk
food an issue until it becomes one. DD is happy with her fruit, and at
nearly 13 months, certain things _are_ prohibited - I think that's
responsible when you're referring to an infant. Of course, as she gets older
we will re-evaluate, and I know things will have changed by the time she's
8!


--
Amy
Mum to Carlos born sleeping 20/11/02,
& Ana born screaming 30/06/04
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http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/ana%5Fj%5F2004/
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[Bullet Surprise]

Jenrose wrote:
> "Carol Ann" > wrote in message
> news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
> > Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
> >
> DD1: Yes, but only when it's around (but she's 12, so it doesn't count.)
> DD2: Only boobie juice. And who knows how much...lol!
>
> > How do you get your child to consume milk?
> DD1: I don't. She's allergic.
> DD2: I stick the boob in her mouth.
> >
> > Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
> >
> DD1: No diet, no caffeine, period. Soda is fine, in moderation.
> DD2: She's 4 months old.

What an obnoxious, irrelevant and unhelpful response. Big surprise
from someone that types lol in their *own* post. I guess it's good
that you laughed at your own "joke", I doubt anyone else did.

Delilah

[Mum of Two]

"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Jenrose wrote:
>> "Carol Ann" > wrote in message
>> news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
>> > Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>> >
>> DD1: Yes, but only when it's around (but she's 12, so it doesn't count.)
>> DD2: Only boobie juice. And who knows how much...lol!
>>
>> > How do you get your child to consume milk?
>> DD1: I don't. She's allergic.
>> DD2: I stick the boob in her mouth.
>> >
>> > Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>> >
>> DD1: No diet, no caffeine, period. Soda is fine, in moderation.
>> DD2: She's 4 months old.
>
> What an obnoxious, irrelevant and unhelpful response. Big surprise
> from someone that types lol in their *own* post. I guess it's good
> that you laughed at your own "joke", I doubt anyone else did.

I thought Jenrose's response was about as relevant and helpful as any of the
other responses. What did you find obnoxious? And where do you get off on
flaming her? Are you a new troll?


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[Jamie Clark]

Actually, I loved JenRose's response, and thought it was quite clever. But
then again, I know her.

And who are you? First time I've noticed a post from you, and it's snotty,
to boot. Hmmmm. nice way to introduce yourselves to a group of people.
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"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
oups.com...
>
>
> Jenrose wrote:
>> "Carol Ann" > wrote in message
>> news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
>> > Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>> >
>> DD1: Yes, but only when it's around (but she's 12, so it doesn't count.)
>> DD2: Only boobie juice. And who knows how much...lol!
>>
>> > How do you get your child to consume milk?
>> DD1: I don't. She's allergic.
>> DD2: I stick the boob in her mouth.
>> >
>> > Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>> >
>> DD1: No diet, no caffeine, period. Soda is fine, in moderation.
>> DD2: She's 4 months old.
>
> What an obnoxious, irrelevant and unhelpful response. Big surprise
> from someone that types lol in their *own* post. I guess it's good
> that you laughed at your own "joke", I doubt anyone else did.
>
> Delilah
>

[Bullet Surprise]

Holy crap! It was NOTHING personal, just my observation. I am a bf
mom and long time lurker here and have thought this same thing many
times but never posted about it. I wasn't trying to introduce myself,
I just *had* to say something this time...LOL <shudder>

Delilah

[Jamie Clark]

If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
and respected member of this community.

If you want to dis someone, it helps if you remember two things -- 1. if you
are unknown to the group, stick to dissing the obvious choices -- AGSF,
Todd, and the c*rc loons...or 2. Introduce yourself and become known and
liked, then you'll be given a lot more slack on who you dis. Take Austin
Amy for example.. : ) (JK Amy, love ya dearly!)

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"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Holy crap! It was NOTHING personal, just my observation. I am a bf
> mom and long time lurker here and have thought this same thing many
> times but never posted about it. I wasn't trying to introduce myself,
> I just *had* to say something this time...LOL <shudder>
>
> Delilah
>

[Jamie Clark]

Of course there is always option 3 -- if you goal is to be an annoying
troll, your perfect follow up response will be to dis Ericka... : )
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"Jamie Clark" > wrote in message
...
> If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
> and respected member of this community.
>
> If you want to dis someone, it helps if you remember two things -- 1. if
> you are unknown to the group, stick to dissing the obvious choices --
> AGSF, Todd, and the c*rc loons...or 2. Introduce yourself and become known
> and liked, then you'll be given a lot more slack on who you dis. Take
> Austin Amy for example.. : ) (JK Amy, love ya dearly!)
>
> --
>
> Jamie
> Earth Angels:
> Taylor Marlys, 1/3/03 -- Little Miss Chatty, whose favorite sayings are
> "What's going on in here" and "I've gotta get out of here!
> Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- Little Miss Into Everything, whose reach has
> extended into the whole coffee table...nothing is safe!
>
> Check out the family! -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1,
> Password: Guest
> Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and
> Password
>
> "Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
> oups.com...
>> Holy crap! It was NOTHING personal, just my observation. I am a bf
>> mom and long time lurker here and have thought this same thing many
>> times but never posted about it. I wasn't trying to introduce myself,
>> I just *had* to say something this time...LOL <shudder>
>>
>> Delilah
>>
>
>

[Ericka Kammerer]

Jamie Clark wrote:

> Of course there is always option 3 -- if you goal is to be an annoying
> troll, your perfect follow up response will be to dis Ericka... : )

;-P

Best wishes,
Ericka

[Phoebe & Allyson]

Carol Ann wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Sometimes she'll have snack with the preschool group at church, and get an
inch or so in a Dixie cup. IMHO juice is nutritionally worthless, so I
don't try to offer it. But she does get other stuff that's equally or more
nutritionally worthless, so I don't forbid it, either.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

She eats plenty of cheese and yogurt, so I try to discourage milk-drinking
(other than breastmilk). If she sees other people drinking milk, she'll ask
for a sip from our cups.

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

Caterpillar hates fizzy drinks, so I just tell her my pop is fizzy. IMHO,
neither Splenda nor aspartame nor Ace-K are deadly poisons, so I wouldn't
forbid her a taste. But I wouldn't give her any in her own cup, either.

Phoebe :)
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[Todd Gastaldo]

"DISSING" TODD

See below.

in article , Jamie Clark at
wrote on 7/24/05 8:19 PM:

> If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
> and respected member of this community.
>
> If you want to dis someone, it helps if you remember two things -- 1. if you
> are unknown to the group, stick to dissing the obvious choices -- AGSF,
> Todd, and the c*rc loons...or 2. Introduce yourself and become known and
> liked, then you'll be given a lot more slack on who you dis. Take Austin
> Amy for example.. : ) (JK Amy, love ya dearly!)

I welcome all "dissing" - esp. if accompanied by substantive criticism.

One woman (who shall remain nameless) "dissed" me by indicating that
semisitting is OK and trust in one's obstetrician is more important than the
"extra" up to 30% of pelvic outlet area that obstetricians routinely deny.

Another woman (who shall remain nameless) "dissed" me as "psychotic" because
I was pointing out that obstetricians are routinely robbing babies of up to
50% of their blood volume.

It turned out this latter woman was just joking - she knew obstetricians
were/are doing this to babies.

Todd

[Jenrose]

>
> What an obnoxious, irrelevant and unhelpful response. Big surprise
> from someone that types lol in their *own* post. I guess it's good
> that you laughed at your own "joke", I doubt anyone else did.
>
My goodness. Someone got up on the wrong side of Usenet this morning.

You want an answer to the original questions? My older daughter got some
juice, but only very, very little before age 2, watered down. She's always
been allergic to milk, so I've always had to work harder to get her NOT to
have milk. As an older kid, she had juice more often than I might give it
normally, but almost *always* calcium fortified... see the allergic to milk
bit.

And I put in the lol so that people know I'm answering in a lighthearted
manner and not being dead serious. It is very hard to read "tone" in text
messages, hence smilies and other "signals" to tone and intent. In real
life, you'd have known I was being deliberately flip because the questions,
related to my own kids, were a little silly. Not silly inherently, simply
when applied to a 4 month old and a 12 year old.

And I can't believe I just spend *that much time* explaining one flip silly
answer to a survey post. Sheesh. Must be the beer I'm drinking to boost my
supply.

But yeah, I wanna see you try and do that to Ericka next... <insert little
popcorn eating guy here>.

Jenrose

[Mum of Two]

"Todd Gastaldo" > wrote in message
...
> "DISSING" TODD
>
> See below.
>
> in article , Jamie Clark at
> wrote on 7/24/05 8:19 PM:
>
>> If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
>> and respected member of this community.
>>
>> If you want to dis someone, it helps if you remember two things -- 1. if
>> you
>> are unknown to the group, stick to dissing the obvious choices -- AGSF,
>> Todd, and the c*rc loons...or 2. Introduce yourself and become known and
>> liked, then you'll be given a lot more slack on who you dis. Take Austin
>> Amy for example.. : ) (JK Amy, love ya dearly!)
>
> I welcome all "dissing" - esp. if accompanied by substantive criticism.
>
> One woman (who shall remain nameless) "dissed" me by indicating that
> semisitting is OK and trust in one's obstetrician is more important than
> the
> "extra" up to 30% of pelvic outlet area that obstetricians routinely deny.
>
> Another woman (who shall remain nameless) "dissed" me as "psychotic"
> because
> I was pointing out that obstetricians are routinely robbing babies of up
> to
> 50% of their blood volume.

I've been called psycho twice. The girl who called me psycho couldn't spell
it right, on either occasion. I took it as a compliment ;-)

--
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[Jenrose]

>
> I also think there's a difference when you're talking about children
> between 8 & 12, and toddlers. You can't expect a toddler to make healthy
> choices for themselves if you offer _unhealthy_ ones from such a young
> age. Toddlers eat such small amounts anyway, it makes sense to ensure that
> everything they eat is going to offer some nutritional benefit. A friend
> of the family raised her toddler junk-food free, and at three she'd ask
> for one of her 'special treats' which was raisins and pumpkin seeds. She's
> about 4 1/2 now, and still has 'special treats' along with the occasional
> chocolate gold coin - but she knows about moderation, why she has to limit
> her intake of certain foods and why she has to eat more of others.

I was very strict about sugar prior to, oh, age 2-ish, though I did give her
the occasional rice dream bar...which is not sucrose but still pretty sweet.
I also did not let her have chocolate at ALL until age 7 or 8, because I'm
personally a recovering chocoholic--I can either eat chocolate a LOT or eat
*no* chocolate, but there doesnt' seem to be a happy medium and I wanted her
to have more of an option. But once she was old enough to understand the
concept of healthy eating (age 4?) and do some monitoring of her own
allergies, etc., I stopped making hard and fast rules about things like
candy and juice, etc. At age 12, she's the only person closely related to me
that does NOT have some eating issues (other than the allergies) and she's
not at all chubby, unlike *all* of the rest of us at that age. Moderation
was totally essential to us, and I think starting her out with a very
restricted and healthy diet was important, but equally important was being
flexible and realistic.

Side effect of the food allergies, interestingly, has been very good delayed
gratification skills. She knows if she can't have a treat "now" with the
class, I'll get her one later.

I once let her eat as much halloween candy as she wanted... she threw up
afterwards and came to me and very seriously explained that she thought that
perhaps no more than two pieces a day was a good plan. I think she was all
of 6....

Jenrose

[Jenrose]

>
> No diet soda at all. I stay away from anything with artificial sweeteners.
> Im a big soda drinker as is my husband and we let the older kids have it.
>

We've taken to buying a 2-liter bottle of club soda, pouring out a bit, and
pouring in a can of 100% juice concentrate. Hits the soda "fix" while not
hitting the caramel color and caffeine fix. :)

That said, I've drunk more soda the past two months than in the past 3 years
prior to that. Something about breastfeeding and not having air conditioning
and just not being able to do THAT much water.

Jenrose

[Jenrose]

Since my last answer was apparently too flip, I thought I'd mention
something about juice.

Many fruit juices, have not a whole lot to recommend them over soda or other
nutritionally void sweet beverages. HOWEVER... a couple kinds of juices are
a distinct exception:

Prune juice, of course, for loosening up what's stopped up.

Cranberry juice for preventing bladder infections (and here, even the
cocktails with sugar can help, a rare exception. Aronia berry is supposed to
be similarly beneficial).

Orange juice has quite a number of vitamins and minerals in it,
unfortunately it is also a fairly common cause of diaper rash... I can't
drink it because it gives dd2 a burn-like rash on her butt when I do, and
Mom says the same thing happened to me when she drank orange juice when
nursing me. No OJ, and she's got the proverbial baby's bottom. OJ, and you'd
think someone napalmed her heiny.

Purple grape juice is full of good stuff, particularly anticoagulants which
rival aspirin in effectiveness and surpass aspirin in safety. Purple grape
juices is a *better* anticoagulant than eating grapes, as most table grapes
are not concord grapes and few people crunch up the seeds when they eat
grapes--Welches is helpful in part because it is made in a way that gets the
good stuff out of both seeds and skins. Has to be 100% juice though, and
MUST be purple, and preferably concorde. White grape juice is nigh unto
sugar water.

Other dark purple juices have flavenoids which are *very* healthy. Blueberry
juice is one of my favorites.

Apple juice has little to recommend it, nutritionally, though flavor-wise I
like it blended with other juices. Fresh apple cider, OTOH, is nectar of the
gods.

Most of the juice box juices and blends have little more to recommend them
than the vitamin C added to them, and even that is at such a low level that
it's not usually justification for the sugar contained therein. The only
reason I give them to dd1 ever is that I tend to buy ones that also have
calcium added.

But most of the things that juice is good for.... are problems that adults
get more often than kids.

The paler a juice is, the less likely "in general" that it is worth
consuming, nutritionally. The best juices for nutritional or medicinal
purposes tend to be either dark (grape, blueberry, cranberry), opaque
(orange, apple cider) or both (prune). Filtered apple juice, white grape
juice, most juice cocktails... just aren't worth the calories. I use them
only when they are a substitute for something even worse, like soda or
sugar-based jello. And I totally pay attention to the juice content... many
good sounding juices (blueberry/grape combo) end up being only 10% juice,
which is more like glorified sugar water, or worse,
high-fructose-corn-syrup-water.

Jenrose

[Jenrose]

"Jamie Clark" > wrote in message
...
> If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
> and respected member of this community.
>

Hey Mikey...they like me! :)

Thanks, Jamie...
Jenrose

[Sidheag McCormack]

Mum of Two writes:

> I'd rather she didn't develop a taste for sweet foods in the first place

I thought this way before my son was born. Then I tasted my milk, and
decided that this argument made no sense at all - bm tastes sweeter than
anything else I'd be likely to give him, or indeed anything I'd drink
myself! So now, although I don't let things with added sugar be a large
part of DS's diet because that would displace more nutritious foods and
because I want his teeth to be healthy, I don't worry about giving him
sweet thing with meals sometimes. My current theory is that I don't want
sugar to be a "forbidden food" and therefore attractive. JM2pW.

Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003

[Sue]

"Mum of Two" > wrote in message
> I am a big believer in moderation, but I don't see the point in making
junk
> food an issue until it becomes one. DD is happy with her fruit, and at
> nearly 13 months, certain things _are_ prohibited - I think that's
> responsible when you're referring to an infant. Of course, as she gets
older
> we will re-evaluate, and I know things will have changed by the time she's
> 8!

I agree on not making junk food an issue at 13 months. Nothing was really
prohibited either though. I just made sure it was a part of their overall
healthy diet and if she ate a couple of french fries I didn't sweat it. When
you make healthy choices in the beginning and not make food such an issue
that some parents do, they will make healthy choices when they are older
(providing they are not really picky), which was my point. By the time they
go to preschool, things like juice and birthday treats are plentiful.
Breastmilk and fruit is so sweet, so it is not surprising that kids like
sweet things.
--
Sue (mom to three girls)

[Bullet Surprise]

First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
something about it. So what?

Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll -- I wouldn't
hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
here does.

[hobbes]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

DD (2) does not. She's tried it (always diluted) but has never liked it. I'm
rather glad.
DS (4) loves juice, but only gets it once a day, diluted. Probably amounts
to 5 oz per day. We sometimes exceed that amount if we're traveling or it's
a special occasion.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I generally add a little Ovaltine, and call it chocolate milk. I add very
little, so it's rather a scam, but it gets the kids to drink it. DD drinks
more milk than DS, now that she's stopped nursing (not because I offer, but
because she started asking for it a lot after the nursing stopped). She
probably gets 2-3 cups (6-8 oz each) a day, but asks for more. DS gets maybe
2, just because he doesn't ask as often.


> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

For the kids??? I'd rather give them regular soda, but we don't buy it, so
it's rarely an issue. At odd times if we happened to have a bit, they've
asked for a sip, and we let them try, but neither of them like it and we
aren't encouraging it. DS has been served punch at preschool--juice mixed
with 7-up or something--and he didn't like it. I had to get him water.

DS also sometimes gets iced tea and warm herbal tea. DD hasn't shown any
liking for it yet.


--
Jodi
SAHM to Oliver (4 years)
and Arwen (2 years)

[Todd Gastaldo]

in article , Mum of Two at
wrote on 7/25/05 1:04 AM:

> "Todd Gastaldo" > wrote in message
> ...
>> "DISSING" TODD
>>
>> See below.
>>
>> in article , Jamie Clark at
>> wrote on 7/24/05 8:19 PM:
>>
>>> If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
>>> and respected member of this community.
>>>
>>> If you want to dis someone, it helps if you remember two things -- 1. if
>>> you
>>> are unknown to the group, stick to dissing the obvious choices -- AGSF,
>>> Todd, and the c*rc loons...or 2. Introduce yourself and become known and
>>> liked, then you'll be given a lot more slack on who you dis. Take Austin
>>> Amy for example.. : ) (JK Amy, love ya dearly!)
>>
>> I welcome all "dissing" - esp. if accompanied by substantive criticism.
>>
>> One woman (who shall remain nameless) "dissed" me by indicating that
>> semisitting is OK and trust in one's obstetrician is more important than
>> the
>> "extra" up to 30% of pelvic outlet area that obstetricians routinely deny.
>>
>> Another woman (who shall remain nameless) "dissed" me as "psychotic"
>> because
>> I was pointing out that obstetricians are routinely robbing babies of up
>> to
>> 50% of their blood volume.
>
> I've been called psycho twice. The girl who called me psycho couldn't spell
> it right, on either occasion. I took it as a compliment ;-)

What a funny word, "psycho."

Todd

[Irene]

Carol Ann wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>
DS (4 yo) - rarely. He prefers Gatorade to actual juice, actually, but
he only gets that when it's hot out and/or he's been exercising
heavily. He's big into "the new milk" - skim with a tiny bit of
Ovaltine, and he'll sometimes drink water. When he was younger, he
drank a ton of water.
DD (15 months) has very occassionally had juice, watered down (tho
probably not watered down at daycare). I've given it to her probably
less than 5 times so far.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?
>
With ds, I had to add Hershey's syrup. We also mixed cow's milk with
EBM at daycare during the transition out of pumping. With dd, we
mixed, but didn't have to add the Hershey's syrup. I finally switched
to Ovaltine (hence the name, "the new milk" to at least get some bit of
nutrition with the chocolate-ness. Dd will drink both whole milk and
skim, actually (she steals her brother's sippy cup!). She's also
bf'ing a lot, too, tho I'm done pumping, finally!

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

We didn't give ds soda until he was 3. Well, he did scam some at dd's
naming ceremony (age 2.75 yrs) - dh told my mom that ds wasn't allowed
Coke. For some unknown reason, she decided that meant root beer was
ok!!? We told him only big kids got soda, and then tied it into a
reward system for potty training. In retrospect, I wish I'd come up
with something else, but it did work somewhat. Dh doesn't seem to
think that Splenda & no caffeine soda is a big deal (or aspartame, for
that matter), but I try to limit it. And since ds is known for major
sugar crashes, I try to limit his sugar intake. Not as successfully as
I'd like, but I try...He's also at 90th percentile for height and 98th
percentile for weight, so I try to be careful on his empty calorie
intake, esp. since he takes after dh in so many ways, and dh has been
battling an extra 20-40 lbs for a long time.

Dd hasn't had any soda yet. I'm going to try to wait until 3, as well,
tho with the second it's definitely harder to wait on things because
she sees her brother getting stuff (or he gives her things).

Irene

[Jess]

"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
> anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
> been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
> something about it. So what?

You just felt like being obnoxious. Nothing prevented you from marking her
posts as read and skipping right by them.

Jess

[Linz]

"Sidheag McCormack" > wrote in message
...
> Carol Ann writes:
>
> [Colin is 20 months old]
>
> > Does your child drink juice?
>
> Yes.
>
> > If so, how much?
>
> An inch (of "multivitamin juice") in a small glass every morning
> as part of the breakfast ritual. Apart from that, juice is a
> special occasion grown-up treat - if we're all out at a cafe or
> something, Colin gets orange juice. In this case it's undiluted
> and in an open cup, maybe with a straw.
>
> > How do you get your child to consume milk?
>
> I breastfeed :-) I've made no efforts to get him to drink cow's
> milk, if that's what you mean. At nursery he gets cow's milk with
> afternoon snack. At home he gets cow's milk on cereal, but
> otherwise I don't offer it. He drinks lots of water.
>
> > Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>
> For me, this is in the category of things he can have one small
> sip of to taste if he asks, but no more. (In fact practically all
> drinks other than water, milk and juice as above are in this
> category. Coffee, tea, beer, wine, G&T ... I probably wouldn't let
> him sip my neat cask-strength whisky but that's for after he's in
> bed anyway so the question hasn't arisen :-)

Good grief, woman! I'm beginning to wonder whether you and I are
actually the same person! I could have written this entire post!
Except that YB doesn't drink lots of water. Not at home, anyway. At
nursery it's on offer all day and he has wet nappies so I presume he
drinks enough.

[Linz]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Yes, as a treat. A small glass, with a straw, or a slurp of
OldBloke's.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

I put it on his weetabix, nursery offers a cup at breakfast. Otherwise
he gets all the milk he wants direct from the tap!

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

I wouldn't go out of my way to offer any fizzy drinks to him. He might
get a taste but he wouldn't get a drink. Empty calories, for a start.
Ingredients I don't understand!

[Nan]

On 25 Jul 2005 06:06:03 -0700, "Bullet Surprise"
> wrote:

>First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
>anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
>been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
>something about it. So what?

So, it sounds like you have a problem with Jenrose. It's not unusual
to dislike someone, but it certainly doesn't make you appear to not be
a troll when all you can do is launch a personal attack.

>Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll

Then don't act like a troll.

>- I wouldn't
>hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
>all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
>here does.

So you just like to attack people that annoy you? Ooookay. So you
don't wish to contribute anything positive to the group?
Sounds like a...... TROLL to me.

Nan

[Bullet Surprise]

I must admit that this is partly true.

And normally I do ignore them but this time I just couldn't resist!

[Bullet Surprise]

Puuhlease! Granted, if I did something like this ALL the time instead
of ONCE I may agree with you. I hold my tongue a LOT IRL and online.
But something about this particular post just finally really irked me
and I popped and just said what I thought.

I'm not asking anyone to come to my defense or agree with me. I stand
by what I originally said because I thought her reply was SO 'full of
itself'. More so than usual.

Life isn't just one big Oprah episode. Get over it.

[Nan]

On 25 Jul 2005 08:50:47 -0700, "Bullet Surprise"
> wrote:

>Puuhlease! Granted, if I did something like this ALL the time instead
>of ONCE I may agree with you. I hold my tongue a LOT IRL and online.
>But something about this particular post just finally really irked me
>and I popped and just said what I thought.
>
>I'm not asking anyone to come to my defense or agree with me. I stand
>by what I originally said because I thought her reply was SO 'full of
>itself'. More so than usual.
>
>Life isn't just one big Oprah episode. Get over it.

By the way you attacked, it sounds like you're more accustomed to
Jerry Springer.
I suggest *you* get over whatever your personal issues with Jenrose
are, killfile her, ignore her, mark her posts read, or whatever.

Nan

[[email protected]]

Nan you're a control freak. No one in any of the groups you are crossposting
too gives a damn about your opinions anymore.


On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:24:30 GMT, in misc.kids.breastfeeding Nan
> wrote:

>On 25 Jul 2005 06:06:03 -0700, "Bullet Surprise"
> wrote:
>
>>First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
>>anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
>>been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
>>something about it. So what?
>
>So, it sounds like you have a problem with Jenrose. It's not unusual
>to dislike someone, but it certainly doesn't make you appear to not be
>a troll when all you can do is launch a personal attack.
>
>>Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll
>
>Then don't act like a troll.
>
>>- I wouldn't
>>hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
>>all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
>>here does.
>
>So you just like to attack people that annoy you? Ooookay. So you
>don't wish to contribute anything positive to the group?
>Sounds like a...... TROLL to me.
>
>Nan
>
>

[Amy]

Jamie Clark wrote:
> If you've lurked here a long time you'd know that Jenrose is a well liked
> and respected member of this community.
>
> If you want to dis someone, it helps if you remember two things -- 1. if you
> are unknown to the group, stick to dissing the obvious choices -- AGSF,
> Todd, and the c*rc loons...or 2. Introduce yourself and become known and
> liked, then you'll be given a lot more slack on who you dis. Take Austin
> Amy for example.. : ) (JK Amy, love ya dearly!)

As we say in the defense business, MKP is a "target rich environment."
Why stick to the obvious choices, when there's such abundant variety?!
:)

Amy

[sharalyns]

Carol Ann wrote:
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

Yes--up until age 3, he had watered down juice--two cups per day
(calcium fortified, Vit. D fortified, no sugar added, whole pulp).
Now he gets 1 to 1 & 1/2 glasses full strength per day. He is allergic
to cow's milk proteins, soy, and goat's milk.

> How do you get your child to consume milk?

Well, when I was breastfeeding that wasn't an issue. now, he
occasionally will take rice milk on cereal, but most of the time, I
don't stress as he gets his calcium from other sources. We've had to do
this for a while, so we're just used to it. Others think that he's
deprived (no chocolate, no cheese, nothing with whey or casein or soy
on the label....).

> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

We don't do soda in general. I can't stand carbonation, so I never
drink it. My husband drinks root beer (no caffeinated). My son has had
a sip or two of root beer, and doesn't like "the fizzies". So not an
issue there. I don't do artifical sweeteners if I can help it (any).

HTH!

Sharalyn
mom to Alexander James (9/21/01)

[[email protected]]

In misc.kids.breastfeeding Carol Ann > wrote:
: Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

We tried to keep juice consumption to a minimum before 2 to 3 years.
After that, it was apple juice cut half and half with mineral water.
Usually there was a limit of 2 or 3 glassed a day, then we went to
water.

: How do you get your child to consume milk?

Nurse? Seriously, we did not try to "push" cows' milk. We simply let
them ask for it if they wanted it.

: Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

What's wrong with water? We never kept stuff like that in the house.

: Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

: ~Carol Ann

Larry

[Sidheag McCormack]

Linz writes:

> Good grief, woman! I'm beginning to wonder whether you and I are
> actually the same person! I could have written this entire post!

ROTFL - I remember feeling the same about at least one of your posts in the
past. Maybe we are :-)

Sidheag
DS Colin Oct 27 2003

[Nan]

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 10:02:49 -0700, wrote:


>Nan you're a control freak. No one in any of the groups you are crossposting
>too gives a damn about your opinions anymore.

Read any good books lately?

Nan

[Cathy Weeks]

Bullet Surprise wrote:
> First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
> anyone.

Ummmm... Just as you felt the need to dis Jenrose for what you thought
was a bad post, WE feel the need to dis you for being remarkably unkind
in your response to her.

> Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
> been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
> something about it. So what?

So, why didn't you a) ignore it, or b) play nice?

> Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll -- I wouldn't
> hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
> all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
> here does.

Look, if you are going to be playing hardball, expect for people to
play it back. So, feel free to dis anyone you feel like, for any
possible reason, but don't expect people to lay back and just take it.
Life, and especially not Usenet don't work that way.

Cathy Weeks

[Mum of Two]

"Sue" > wrote in message
...
> "Mum of Two" > wrote in message
>> I am a big believer in moderation, but I don't see the point in making
> junk
>> food an issue until it becomes one. DD is happy with her fruit, and at
>> nearly 13 months, certain things _are_ prohibited - I think that's
>> responsible when you're referring to an infant. Of course, as she gets
> older
>> we will re-evaluate, and I know things will have changed by the time
>> she's
>> 8!
>
> I agree on not making junk food an issue at 13 months. Nothing was really
> prohibited either though. I just made sure it was a part of their overall
> healthy diet and if she ate a couple of french fries I didn't sweat it.
> When
> you make healthy choices in the beginning and not make food such an issue
> that some parents do, they will make healthy choices when they are older
> (providing they are not really picky), which was my point. By the time
> they
> go to preschool, things like juice and birthday treats are plentiful.
> Breastmilk and fruit is so sweet, so it is not surprising that kids like
> sweet things.


I think oddly enough, we do have a similar approach ;-) While discussing
this, fresh in my mind is the MKB thread where people were giving other
people's <6 month old babies frosting and pickles and champagne, and I think
it has influenced the point of view I'm putting across. I'm definitely not
so strict on food these days, but I still intend to offer healthy options.
DD had a small piece of her own birthday cake (which by birthday cake
standards was pretty healthy).
Heck, DD drops things on the floor these days and picks them up all fluffy
and eats them. I want her to be confident about self-feeding, so I just try
not to watch.


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[Mum of Two]

"Sidheag McCormack" > wrote in message
...
> Mum of Two writes:
>
> > I'd rather she didn't develop a taste for sweet foods in the first place
>
> I thought this way before my son was born. Then I tasted my milk, and
> decided that this argument made no sense at all - bm tastes sweeter than
> anything else I'd be likely to give him, or indeed anything I'd drink
> myself!

Oh I know breastmilk is sweet! That is why children will eat fruit over
vegetables most days. But it also seems to be true that the more sugar and
salt you eat, the more you tend to need. Look at how many adults are
addicted to the salt shaker - and the more they have, the more they need
next time. Sugar is not an evil in itself, we all need some form of sugar to
survive, and it's in virtually everything. DD is happy with her sweet
banana, raisins, and fruit purees, so they are our after dinner treat. I
think there's a difference between the mode of delivery - sugar in something
like a banana or raisins, or refined sugar in a processed chocolate cake. To
teeth, they're all damaging, but nutritionally they're very different.

>So now, although I don't let things with added sugar be a large
> part of DS's diet because that would displace more nutritious foods and
> because I want his teeth to be healthy, I don't worry about giving him
> sweet thing with meals sometimes. My current theory is that I don't want
> sugar to be a "forbidden food" and therefore attractive. JM2pW.

I agree!

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[Mum of Two]

"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I must admit that this is partly true.
>
> And normally I do ignore them but this time I just couldn't resist!

But you've resisted posting anything useful remarkably well so far!


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[Jamie Clark]

<sung to the tune of "Spam, Spam, Spam...">

Troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll, troll...

Here's a news flash --- YOU are the annoying one. This is the equivalent of
going with a friend to a party, then proceeding to talk loudly to anyone
around you about how ugly the living room is decorated. Although it may be
really ugly, you fail to stop and realize that you've just told the HOSTESS
that her house is ugly. Not good social skills. If you'd kept your
opinions to yourself, you might have actually been invited back and made a
few friends. As it is now, everyone just thinks you are a classless bore.

Plonk.
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"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
> anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
> been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
> something about it. So what?
>
> Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll -- I wouldn't
> hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
> all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
> here does.
>

[Jamie Clark]

I give a damn.

--

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> wrote in message
...
>
>
> Nan you're a control freak. No one in any of the groups you are
> crossposting
> too gives a damn about your opinions anymore.
>
>
> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:24:30 GMT, in misc.kids.breastfeeding Nan
> > wrote:
>
>>On 25 Jul 2005 06:06:03 -0700, "Bullet Surprise"
> wrote:
>>
>>>First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
>>>anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
>>>been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
>>>something about it. So what?
>>
>>So, it sounds like you have a problem with Jenrose. It's not unusual
>>to dislike someone, but it certainly doesn't make you appear to not be
>>a troll when all you can do is launch a personal attack.
>>
>>>Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll
>>
>>Then don't act like a troll.
>>
>>>- I wouldn't
>>>hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
>>>all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
>>>here does.
>>
>>So you just like to attack people that annoy you? Ooookay. So you
>>don't wish to contribute anything positive to the group?
>>Sounds like a...... TROLL to me.
>>
>>Nan
>>
>>
>

[Mum of Two]

Me too. And I suspect a troll obsessed enough to name him/herself after Nan
does as well, though he/she would never admit it.

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"Jamie Clark" > wrote in message
...
>I give a damn.
>
> --
>
> Jamie
> Earth Angels:
> Taylor Marlys, 1/3/03 -- Little Miss Chatty, whose favorite sayings are
> "What's going on in here" and "I've gotta get out of here!
> Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- Little Miss Into Everything, whose reach has
> extended into the whole coffee table...nothing is safe!
>
> Check out the family! -- www.MyFamily.com, User ID: Clarkguest1,
> Password: Guest
> Become a member for free - go to Add Member to set up your own User ID and
> Password
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> Nan you're a control freak. No one in any of the groups you are
>> crossposting
>> too gives a damn about your opinions anymore.
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 15:24:30 GMT, in misc.kids.breastfeeding Nan
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>On 25 Jul 2005 06:06:03 -0700, "Bullet Surprise"
> wrote:
>>>
>>>>First of all, I don't really want to be given any slack for 'dissing'
>>>>anyone. Like I said, this wasn't even close to the first time I have
>>>>been annoyed by Jenrose's posts and I finally got bugged enough to say
>>>>something about it. So what?
>>>
>>>So, it sounds like you have a problem with Jenrose. It's not unusual
>>>to dislike someone, but it certainly doesn't make you appear to not be
>>>a troll when all you can do is launch a personal attack.
>>>
>>>>Secondly, even though I am most certainly NOT a troll
>>>
>>>Then don't act like a troll.
>>>
>>>>- I wouldn't
>>>>hesitate to dis Ericka if she was even half as annoying and just posted
>>>>all the time because she loved to hear herself 'type' as somebody else
>>>>here does.
>>>
>>>So you just like to attack people that annoy you? Ooookay. So you
>>>don't wish to contribute anything positive to the group?
>>>Sounds like a...... TROLL to me.
>>>
>>>Nan
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

[Linz]

"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I must admit that this is partly true.
>
> And normally I do ignore them but this time I just couldn't resist!

Could you please quote some of what you're replying to?

[Carol Ann]

> Of course there is always option 3 -- if you goal is to be an annoying
> troll, your perfect follow up response will be to dis Ericka... : )

Hear! Hear! Ericka is BY FAR the most articulate MKB poster I've read.

In the ASDLC, Carmen would take the title.

~Carol Ann

[Nan]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:25:50 +1200, "Mum of Two"
> wrote:

>Me too. And I suspect a troll obsessed enough to name him/herself after Nan
>does as well, though he/she would never admit it.

I've never had an obsessed fan before ;-)

Nan

[Carol Ann]

> "Carol Ann" > wrote in message
> news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
>> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>>
> A few ounces a day of prune juice. I keep prune juice and orange juice
> around, and she may have either. She's on a bit of a prune juice kick
> right
> now.
>
>> How do you get your child to consume milk?
>>
>
> She's nursing 4x day. She asks for cow's milk on occasion. Research
> seems
> to show cow's milk is not good for toddlers.
>
>> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>>
>
> I think so.

My Pediatrician suggested I give Morgan cows milk. He also promotes
continued breastfeeding. Morgan just doesn't seem to like it.

So, I'll continue to give her a serving or two of cheese and her
multivitamin and get her outside for a while each day to get vitamin d.

~Carol Ann

[Carol Ann]

>> No diet soda at all. I stay away from anything with artificial
>> sweeteners.
>> Im a big soda drinker as is my husband and we let the older kids have it.
>>
>
> We've taken to buying a 2-liter bottle of club soda, pouring out a bit,
> and
> pouring in a can of 100% juice concentrate. Hits the soda "fix" while not
> hitting the caramel color and caffeine fix. :)

I was thinking of adding something with fuzzies to her milk to get her more
interested in drinking it.

I think of Laverne from Laverne and Shirley drinking milk and Pepsi.

>
> That said, I've drunk more soda the past two months than in the past 3
> years
> prior to that. Something about breastfeeding and not having air
> conditioning
> and just not being able to do THAT much water.
>
> Jenrose

--
Carol Ann

[Jamie Clark]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
news:ButFe.209045$xm3.88115@attbi_s21...
>>> No diet soda at all. I stay away from anything with artificial
>>> sweeteners.
>>> Im a big soda drinker as is my husband and we let the older kids have
>>> it.
>>>
>>
>> We've taken to buying a 2-liter bottle of club soda, pouring out a bit,
>> and
>> pouring in a can of 100% juice concentrate. Hits the soda "fix" while not
>> hitting the caramel color and caffeine fix. :)
>
> I was thinking of adding something with fuzzies to her milk to get her
> more interested in drinking it.
>
> I think of Laverne from Laverne and Shirley drinking milk and Pepsi.


I wouldn't work that hard to get your kid to drink cows milk. At least I
wouldn't add sodas or fizzie to it. I've heard that the carbonation can
leach calcium from the developing bones, which is bad enough as an adult,
but for a growing child, seriously not good. Perhaps it's an urban myth,
who knows. Apparently a lot of people add a little bit of chocolate to the
milk, and I guess you could try that. I think if you stick to yogurt and
cheeses, she'll likey do fine in terms of protein, calcium, etc. Remember,
she's also getting all that from you! When she's done breastfeeding, she'll
likely develop the taste for it.
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[Carol Ann]

> I wouldn't work that hard to get your kid to drink cows milk. At least I
> wouldn't add sodas or fizzie to it. I've heard that the carbonation can
> leach calcium from the developing bones, which is bad enough as an adult,
> but for a growing child, seriously not good. Perhaps it's an urban myth,
> who knows. Apparently a lot of people add a little bit of chocolate to
> the
> milk, and I guess you could try that. I think if you stick to yogurt and
> cheeses, she'll likey do fine in terms of protein, calcium, etc.
> Remember,
> she's also getting all that from you! When she's done breastfeeding,
> she'll
> likely develop the taste for it.

You are right. I'm just concerned about her calcium intake. My mother was
diagnosed with Osteoperosis (sp?). I realize that it affects mostly thin
Asian women (which is what she is). I just want Morgan to have nice healthy
strong bones.

She seems to be growing well. She breastfeeds ALLOT!! Lately, she wants it
about 5 times a day and when she is going to sleep.

I just want her to be healthy.

~Carol Ann

[Bullet Surprise]

Just so you know, " is not me.

Sorry to disappoint!

Delilah

[Jamie Clark]

Yeah, we know that you aren't the other person...but that fact alone doesn't
take away your troll status. Only time and positive participation will do
that. It's your choice... : )
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"Bullet Surprise" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> Just so you know, " is not me.
>
> Sorry to disappoint!
>
> Delilah
>

[[email protected]]

Jamie Clark wrote:
> "Carol Ann" > wrote in message
> news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
> > Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?

None at home. They are allowed to have it at daycare because all the
other kids have it. They water it down and my kids only go twice a
week. They also get it at birthday parties, restaurants, etc. So there
is plenty of juice, just not from Mom or Dad.

> >
> > How do you get your child to consume milk?

They like milk. Only choices are water or milk. If they didn't like
milk, then they would just drink water at home.

> >
> > Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?

No soda. I try to keep this to 0. I actually think diet is worse for
kids than the kind with sugar, but both are bad.

My kids aren't that into water. I drink it almost exclusively (ok, also
coffee). My husband drinks mostly water and some soda, and soda rarely
at home.

My kids are offered only water when we are out and about (keep it in
the diaper bag), at nap time or after tooth brushing in the evening.
They will drink some, but not a lot, unless it is very hot. Mostly,
they hydrate themselves with milk. Now this is supposed to make them
fat according to the latest studies. Sigh.

[Mum of Two]

"Nan" > wrote in message
...
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:25:50 +1200, "Mum of Two"
> > wrote:
>
>>Me too. And I suspect a troll obsessed enough to name him/herself after
>>Nan
>>does as well, though he/she would never admit it.
>
> I've never had an obsessed fan before ;-)

Neither. Can I have your obsessed fan troll when you're done with
him/her/it? ;-)


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[Nan]

On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 11:13:18 +1200, "Mum of Two"
> wrote:

>"Nan" > wrote in message
...
>> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 17:25:50 +1200, "Mum of Two"
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>Me too. And I suspect a troll obsessed enough to name him/herself after
>>>Nan
>>>does as well, though he/she would never admit it.
>>
>> I've never had an obsessed fan before ;-)
>
>Neither. Can I have your obsessed fan troll when you're done with
>him/her/it? ;-)

Absolutely! She'll have some bruises from being smacked around with
books, though <G>

Nan

[Cathy Weeks]

Carol Ann wrote:
>> You are right. I'm just concerned about her calcium intake. My mother was
> diagnosed with Osteoperosis (sp?). I realize that it affects mostly thin
> Asian women (which is what she is). I just want Morgan to have nice healthy
> strong bones.

I read recently that the most important time to get lots of calcium is
during the teenage years - that that prevents osteoporosis better than
anything - but I'm quoting from memory, so I might not have all the
details right.

Cathy Weeks

[Jess]

"Cathy Weeks" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> I read recently that the most important time to get lots of calcium is
> during the teenage years - that that prevents osteoporosis better than
> anything - but I'm quoting from memory, so I might not have all the
> details right.

That, and weight bearing exercise.

Jess

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On 26 Jul 2005 10:03:03 -0700, in misc.kids.breastfeeding "Bullet Surprise"
> wrote:

>Just so you know, " is not me.
>
>Sorry to disappoint!
>
>Delilah


We know.

[[email protected]]

You are a control freak and sadly there is no cure for that.


On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:08:07 -0700, in misc.kids.breastfeeding "Jamie Clark"
> wrote:

>Yeah, we know that you aren't the other person...but that fact alone doesn't
>take away your troll status. Only time and positive participation will do
>that. It's your choice... : )

[Jamie Clark]

Ha ha, Amy! Neener, neener, neener! I have an obsessed troll! Whooo
hoooo! Not a very bright one, as they couldn't even spell my name right,
but oh well.
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> wrote in message
...
>
>
> You are a control freak and sadly there is no cure for that.
>
>
> On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 10:08:07 -0700, in misc.kids.breastfeeding "Jamie
> Clark"
> > wrote:
>
>>Yeah, we know that you aren't the other person...but that fact alone
>>doesn't
>>take away your troll status. Only time and positive participation will do
>>that. It's your choice... : )
>

[Jenrose]

"Jamie Clark" > wrote in message
...
> Ha ha, Amy! Neener, neener, neener! I have an obsessed troll! Whooo
> hoooo! Not a very bright one, as they couldn't even spell my name right,
> but oh well.

Bright trolls are hard to come by. The stupid ones, as in all things, are
much more common.

Jenrose

[Me Myself and I]

Oh Jamie [high fives] you are so lucky!!!!!!!!!! Your very own troll :D

MMI

[Nan]

On Tue, 26 Jul 2005 21:09:19 -0700, "Jamie Clark"
> wrote:

>Ha ha, Amy! Neener, neener, neener! I have an obsessed troll! Whooo
>hoooo! Not a very bright one, as they couldn't even spell my name right,
>but oh well.

Hah, you get to share my obsessed fan with me ;-)

Nan

[Linz]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
news:ZstFe.209042$xm3.113953@attbi_s21...

> My Pediatrician suggested I give Morgan cows milk. He also
> promotes continued breastfeeding. Morgan just doesn't seem to
> like it.

Whole, um, races for want of a better word (there is one, but my brain
is asleep) never touch cow's milk. If Morgan doesn't like it, she's
not alone!

> So, I'll continue to give her a serving or two of cheese and her
> multivitamin and get her outside for a while each day to get
> vitamin d.

You could include yoghurt and fromage frais if she likes them, too.

[Linz]

> wrote in message
...
>
>
> You are a control freak and sadly there is no cure for that.

And you are a top-poster. Hey, you could change that, and look
slightly more clueful.

--
Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor
happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is
where your arse happened to be.

[Jenrose]

Nooooo... not a top poster......

<runs and hides>

:P

Jenrose

"Linz" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> You are a control freak and sadly there is no cure for that.
>
> And you are a top-poster. Hey, you could change that, and look slightly
> more clueful.
>
> --
> Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor
> happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is
> where your arse happened to be.
>

[Mum of Two]

Hey! Does that make me a troll too? :-P

--
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Mum to Carlos born sleeping 20/11/02,
& Ana born screaming 30/06/04
http://www.freewebs.com/carlos2002/
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/ana%5Fj%5F2004/
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"Linz" > wrote in message
...
>
> > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>>
>> You are a control freak and sadly there is no cure for that.
>
> And you are a top-poster. Hey, you could change that, and look slightly
> more clueful.
>
> --
> Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor
> happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is
> where your arse happened to be.
>

[Mum of Two]

"Jamie Clark" > wrote in message
...
> Ha ha, Amy! Neener, neener, neener! I have an obsessed troll! Whooo
> hoooo! Not a very bright one, as they couldn't even spell my name right,
> but oh well.

Geez, I feel so left out. I bet you bought them at Trolls 'R Us and snipped
the tags off so we wouldn't know.

--
Amy
Mum to Carlos born sleeping 20/11/02,
& Ana born screaming 30/06/04
http://www.freewebs.com/carlos2002/
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/a/ana%5Fj%5F2004/
My blog: http://spaces.msn.com/members/querer-hijo-querer-hija/

[Jamie Clark]

Yeah, me too... <hides head in shame...>

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"Jenrose" > wrote in message
news:1122490302.13988792a935abce7af3e06d2bb58488@t eranews...
> Nooooo... not a top poster......
>
> <runs and hides>
>
> :P
>
> Jenrose
>
> "Linz" > wrote in message
> ...
>>
>> > wrote in message
>> ...
>>>
>>>
>>> You are a control freak and sadly there is no cure for that.
>>
>> And you are a top-poster. Hey, you could change that, and look slightly
>> more clueful.
>>
>> --
>> Posting at the top of an article because that is where your cursor
>> happened to be is like crapping in your pants because that is
>> where your arse happened to be.
>>
>
>

[carl jones]

"Carol Ann" > wrote in message
news:NQCEe.177686$_o.68001@attbi_s71...
> Does your child drink juice? If so, how much?
>
> How do you get your child to consume milk?
>
> Diet soda with Splenda and no caffeine, a no-no?
>
> Sorry to bombard you with so many questions.

Not a problem with so many good questions.

Yes my sons drank juice when toddlers.

appush (applejuice) and Nanny (breastmilk in a bottle)

Good luck

Carl

[carl jones]

"Jamie Clark" > wrote in message
...
> Actually, I loved JenRose's response, and thought it was quite clever.
> But then again, I know her.
>
> And who are you? First time I've noticed a post from you, and it's
> snotty, to boot. Hmmmm. nice way to introduce yourselves to a group of
> people.

Nice response, Jamie. I think it is a troll. Either that or an incredibly
callous person.

Carl

[zeldabee]

"Linz" > wrote:
[...]
> You could include yoghurt and fromage frais if she likes them, too.

One day last week, I was noodling on the computer and Sprogly was watching
Thomas on TV. I looked out into the living room to check on him, and he was
sitting in the glider rocker with a spoon and a tub of greek yogurt. He'd
just helped himself. My big, almost-two-year-old...no fuss, no noise, no
mess, just having a snack.

--
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[Emily]

zeldabee wrote:
> "Linz" > wrote:
> [...]
>
>>You could include yoghurt and fromage frais if she likes them, too.
>
>
> One day last week, I was noodling on the computer and Sprogly was watching
> Thomas on TV. I looked out into the living room to check on him, and he was
> sitting in the glider rocker with a spoon and a tub of greek yogurt. He'd
> just helped himself. My big, almost-two-year-old...no fuss, no noise, no
> mess, just having a snack.
>

Wow! Unfortunately, our refridgerator door is too high
(freezer on bottom) and too stiff (hard to open) for
my 3yo to do things like that...

Emily

[Jamie Clark]

"Emily" > wrote in message
...
> zeldabee wrote:
>> "Linz" > wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>>You could include yoghurt and fromage frais if she likes them, too.
>>
>>
>> One day last week, I was noodling on the computer and Sprogly was
>> watching
>> Thomas on TV. I looked out into the living room to check on him, and he
>> was
>> sitting in the glider rocker with a spoon and a tub of greek yogurt. He'd
>> just helped himself. My big, almost-two-year-old...no fuss, no noise, no
>> mess, just having a snack.
>>
>
> Wow! Unfortunately, our refridgerator door is too high
> (freezer on bottom) and too stiff (hard to open) for
> my 3yo to do things like that...
>
> Emily

Ours is a side by side, but there is no way that anyone weighing less than
about 85 pounds could open those doors! They are tough to open, and even
more so if you've been into the fridge recently -- when you close the door
you can hear the suction as the door pulls tight!
--

Jamie
Earth Angels:
Taylor Marlys, 1/3/03 -- Little Miss Chatty, whose favorite sayings are
"What's going on in here" and "I've gotta get out of here!
Addison Grace, 9/30/04 -- Little Miss Into Everything, whose reach has
extended into the whole coffee table...nothing is safe!

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[Cat]

Emily skrev:
> zeldabee wrote:
>
>> "Linz" > wrote:
>> [...]
>>
>>> You could include yoghurt and fromage frais if she likes them, too.
>>
>>
>>
>> One day last week, I was noodling on the computer and Sprogly was
>> watching
>> Thomas on TV. I looked out into the living room to check on him, and
>> he was
>> sitting in the glider rocker with a spoon and a tub of greek yogurt. He'd
>> just helped himself. My big, almost-two-year-old...no fuss, no noise, no
>> mess, just having a snack.
>>
>
> Wow! Unfortunately, our refridgerator door is too high
> (freezer on bottom) and too stiff (hard to open) for
> my 3yo to do things like that...
>
> Emily

My best situation like that was when DD was about 7 and DS about 2 and
she'd tiptoe down the stairs with him, feed him and take him downstairs
to watch tv for two stiff hours (his choice of movie) just to give Mom
and Dad some sleep.

She was the hero of the day - all day.

Now she's nearly 13 and he's 8. Sometimes she'll take him to a local
science museum for 5 or 6 hours. When she feels like being 'nice big
sister' that is - and it's not always.

Tine, Denmark

[Iuil]

"Emily" wrote
> Wow! Unfortunately, our refridgerator door is too high
> (freezer on bottom) and too stiff (hard to open) for
> my 3yo to do things like that...
>

Mine has fridge over freezer too. The 3yo just gets a stool ...

Jean


--
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DS - May '05

[Emily]

Iuil wrote:
> Mine has fridge over freezer too. The 3yo just gets a stool ...
>

DS has a stool, but the door is just too hard to
operate, and the way things are set up right
now in the fridge, most of what he eats is up high.
If he could get into it easily, I'd try to rearrange
some...

Emily

[Joybelle]

"Emily" > wrote in message
...
> Iuil wrote:
> > Mine has fridge over freezer too. The 3yo just gets a stool ...
> >
>
> DS has a stool, but the door is just too hard to
> operate, and the way things are set up right
> now in the fridge, most of what he eats is up high.
> If he could get into it easily, I'd try to rearrange
> some...

My 2yo is horrible! He gets the fridge and the freezer open. We also have
a model with the freezer on bottom, and we thought it would be too heavy for
him to open. No such luck, but the fridge beeps to let you know it's open.
I've told him it's the fridges way of yelling, "Shut me! Shut me! Shut me
NOW!" LOL He's getting better, but I'm still tempted to get a fridge lock
or two!


--
Joy

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# 4 Sept 2005