Yay! Shiny Weight

[Jenrose]

Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.

Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.

Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat and a
teaspoon of peas, a teaspoon of applesauce and a heaped tablespoon of rice
with another level tablespoon of coconut milk, and nursed, a lot. I feed her
after nursing, then nurse her after feeding. I feel like she's eating all
the time.

This gain despite having a cold the past two days.

BTW... when I say banana, I mean, whole banana that I scraped bits off of.
It's only the past few days that she's been even remotely interested in
pureed foods--before, they gagged her. The rice is just rice, not mushed
even. She just sucks on it, chews on it, and it goes away. She handles
"chunky" food *so* well, it makes me wonder at the whole notion of starting
babies on runny purees.

We've tried rice cereal twice--total bust. Applesauce, she's not
enthusiastic about.

Favorites: Banana with coconut milk and rice with coconut milk or olive oil.

My rule: Every food that goes in her mouth needs to have some fat with it.

She's also had a developmental leap--she's sitting up straighter and has
lost her head lag, finally. She's also pushing up on her arms when on her
tummy, and rolling like a pro.

She continues to say "MOM" very clearly, and has added a little babble,
mostly soudns like "Ama" "ooo" and "Ma-ah" and "Am". But it's startling to
be sitting here and suddenly hear this "MOM!" crystal clear....

The developmental leap plus growing longer mean that she actually *looks*
skinnier and feels lighter because seh hold her own weight more firmly, and
is less "dead weight". But the gain is on the same scale that's been
measuring her all along.
Jenrose

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Excellent news!!

"Jenrose" > wrote in message
news:1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@t eranews...
> Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
> Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
> One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>
> Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.
>
> Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat and
a
> teaspoon of peas, a teaspoon of applesauce and a heaped tablespoon of rice
> with another level tablespoon of coconut milk, and nursed, a lot. I feed
her
> after nursing, then nurse her after feeding. I feel like she's eating all
> the time.
>
> This gain despite having a cold the past two days.
>
> BTW... when I say banana, I mean, whole banana that I scraped bits off of.
> It's only the past few days that she's been even remotely interested in
> pureed foods--before, they gagged her. The rice is just rice, not mushed
> even. She just sucks on it, chews on it, and it goes away. She handles
> "chunky" food *so* well, it makes me wonder at the whole notion of
starting
> babies on runny purees.
>
> We've tried rice cereal twice--total bust. Applesauce, she's not
> enthusiastic about.
>
> Favorites: Banana with coconut milk and rice with coconut milk or olive
oil.
>
> My rule: Every food that goes in her mouth needs to have some fat with it.
>
> She's also had a developmental leap--she's sitting up straighter and has
> lost her head lag, finally. She's also pushing up on her arms when on her
> tummy, and rolling like a pro.
>
> She continues to say "MOM" very clearly, and has added a little babble,
> mostly soudns like "Ama" "ooo" and "Ma-ah" and "Am". But it's startling to
> be sitting here and suddenly hear this "MOM!" crystal clear....
>
> The developmental leap plus growing longer mean that she actually *looks*
> skinnier and feels lighter because seh hold her own weight more firmly,
and
> is less "dead weight". But the gain is on the same scale that's been
> measuring her all along.
> Jenrose
>
>

[Nan]

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 22:30:06 -0700, "Jenrose"
> wrote:

>Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
>Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
>One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>
>Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.

Wonderful news!!

Nan
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[Melania]

Jenrose wrote:
> Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
> Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
> One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>
> Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.
>
> Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat and a
> teaspoon of peas, a teaspoon of applesauce and a heaped tablespoon of rice
> with another level tablespoon of coconut milk, and nursed, a lot. I feed her
> after nursing, then nurse her after feeding. I feel like she's eating all
> the time.
>
> This gain despite having a cold the past two days.
>
> BTW... when I say banana, I mean, whole banana that I scraped bits off of.
> It's only the past few days that she's been even remotely interested in
> pureed foods--before, they gagged her. The rice is just rice, not mushed
> even. She just sucks on it, chews on it, and it goes away. She handles
> "chunky" food *so* well, it makes me wonder at the whole notion of starting
> babies on runny purees.
>
> We've tried rice cereal twice--total bust. Applesauce, she's not
> enthusiastic about.
>
> Favorites: Banana with coconut milk and rice with coconut milk or olive oil.
>
> My rule: Every food that goes in her mouth needs to have some fat with it.
>
> She's also had a developmental leap--she's sitting up straighter and has
> lost her head lag, finally. She's also pushing up on her arms when on her
> tummy, and rolling like a pro.
>
> She continues to say "MOM" very clearly, and has added a little babble,
> mostly soudns like "Ama" "ooo" and "Ma-ah" and "Am". But it's startling to
> be sitting here and suddenly hear this "MOM!" crystal clear....
>
> The developmental leap plus growing longer mean that she actually *looks*
> skinnier and feels lighter because seh hold her own weight more firmly, and
> is less "dead weight". But the gain is on the same scale that's been
> measuring her all along.
> Jenrose

Hooray for Shiny!!! (and I loved the pictures most recently posted,
although I don't think I commented at the time)

Glad to hear it's going well,
Melania

[Anonymama]

In article <1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@terane ws>,
"Jenrose" > wrote:

> The developmental leap plus growing longer mean that she actually *looks*
> skinnier and feels lighter because seh hold her own weight more firmly, and
> is less "dead weight". But the gain is on the same scale that's been
> measuring her all along.

Go, Shiny! Go, Shiny! Go, go!
--
Sara
accompanied by TK, number two, due in April of 2006

[Chris]

Jenrose wrote:
>
> BTW... when I say banana, I mean, whole banana that I scraped bits off of.
> It's only the past few days that she's been even remotely interested in
> pureed foods--before, they gagged her. The rice is just rice, not mushed
> even. She just sucks on it, chews on it, and it goes away. She handles
> "chunky" food *so* well, it makes me wonder at the whole notion of starting
> babies on runny purees.
>

I agree. My kids never really liked pureed food either and very quickly
moved to "table food" that they mushed around, sucked on, spread on
their faces, etc. It save a lot of money!

Chris

[Patagonia]

"Jenrose" > wrote in message
news:1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@t eranews...
> Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
> Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
> One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>
> Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.

Congrats!

> Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat

I had thought that coconut would be a potentially allergenic food - no? I
am currently nursing dd (2.5 months) and want to go a bit different route
with her than I did with ds and solids - so if that is an option, that would
be cool with me - I just never considered it bc I thought it was high on the
allergy list.

[Mum of Two]

Yay, that is great news!

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[Leslie]

Good news! She's doing so well.

Leslie

[KC]

Woohoo!!!

KC

[PattyMomVA]

"Patagonia" wrote and I snipped:
>
> "Jenrose" > wrote in message
> news:1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@t eranews...
>> Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
>> Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
>> One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>>
>> Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.
>
> Congrats!
>
>> Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat
>
> I had thought that coconut would be a potentially allergenic food - no? I
> am currently nursing dd (2.5 months) and want to go a bit different route
> with her than I did with ds and solids - so if that is an option, that
> would be cool with me - I just never considered it bc I thought it was
> high on the allergy list.

I also thought of coconut as a potential allergen. I found "[Coconut]
places coconut behind corn and wheat and ahead of milk and eggs in the
frequency of food allergy."

And, "Note: Almond milk, oat milk, sesame milk and coconut milk are milk
substitutes that often cause allergies in young children and infants." at
http://allergy.healthcentersonline.com/foodallergyintolerance/milkallergy5.cfm

I'm definitely not an expert on allergies, but I thought it was worth
looking into.

Take care,
-Patty, mom of 1+2

[Mogget]

In message <1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@terane ws>,
Jenrose > writes
>Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
>Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
>One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>
>Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.

Great news. More pics please of your lovely little girl :-)
--
Mogget

[sharalyns]

Woohoo! That's great!

Xander hated pureed foods and basically went straight to table foods.
Anything that would mush up with saliva was allowed. ;-)

Sharalyn

[Jenrose]

"Patagonia" > wrote in message
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>
> "Jenrose" > wrote in message
> news:1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@t eranews...
>> Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
>> Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
>> One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>>
>> Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.
>
> Congrats!
>
>> Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat
>
> I had thought that coconut would be a potentially allergenic food - no?

Coconut products were high on the list of ingredients in the formula the doc
wanted us to give her. I figured introducing it early was a lesser evil.

DD and I are both allergic to a lot of things, but not coconut.

Any, she's tolerating the coconut better than she did the formula.

And it did the trick and helped her turn a couple big corners.

Jenrose

[Jenrose]

"sharalyns" > wrote in message
ups.com...
> Woohoo! That's great!
>
> Xander hated pureed foods and basically went straight to table foods.
> Anything that would mush up with saliva was allowed. ;-)
>
> Sharalyn
>

Thanks to all who responded... time on the 'puter with newsgroups set up is
limited atm.

Tonight we tried the baby safe feeder...OMG.... she chowed down about 2/3 of
a banana that way. LOVED chomping into the little bag and getting out lots
of yummy banana moosh...ended up chomping, sucking, chewing and drooling her
way through two big banana chunks. So focused.

She hit 15 pounds last night. She's also started saying "buh" sounds and
often says "Mmmmmmm" when we walk about banana...lol!

Jenrose

[Patagonia]

"Jenrose" > wrote in message
news:1129979179.7050a204d0d550c363c86f5d23562ff5@t eranews...
>
> "Patagonia" > wrote in message
> news:%xC5f.4028$vS1.175@dukeread03...
>>
>> "Jenrose" > wrote in message
>> news:1129701761.32129acdc6330a8e15f4dca7f28522c5@t eranews...
>>> Seven weeks ago: 14 pounds 7 oz
>>> Three weeks ago: 14 pounds 9 oz
>>> One week ago: 14 pounds 8 1/2 oz.
>>>
>>> Tonight: 14 pounds 14 oz.
>>
>> Congrats!
>>
>>> Today she ate about 1/4 banana, with a tablespoon of coconut milk fat
>>
>> I had thought that coconut would be a potentially allergenic food - no?
>
> Coconut products were high on the list of ingredients in the formula the
> doc wanted us to give her. I figured introducing it early was a lesser
> evil.
>
> DD and I are both allergic to a lot of things, but not coconut.
>
> Any, she's tolerating the coconut better than she did the formula.
>
> And it did the trick and helped her turn a couple big corners.
>
> Jenrose

Cool - I guess that's just another thing to show that you can't just go by
generalizations with these teeny people.

Glad to hear she's making some better gains!

[Jenrose]

>
> Cool - I guess that's just another thing to show that you can't just go by
> generalizations with these teeny people.
>
> Glad to hear she's making some better gains!
>

It's funny because I thought I would be obsessive about "order of
introduction" and always leaving 4-5 days between foods with Shiny, and I'm
not. I've been playing it by instinct and common sense as much as possible,
and it's done me pretty well. For example, it was a total whim to feed her
banana on my finger vs. banana puree... she handled it beautifully the first
time out. When I thought, "Hmmm" and pureed some banana for her and gave her
that, she had a really hard time with it. She did great with whole rice...
and horribly with the rice cereal I gave her because, you know, we're
"supposed" to give high iron foods at this stage.

My instinct said that all she needed to get back on track with normal weight
gain was to add some fat to what she was eating but that it needed to be a
relatively "solid" fat and that full fat coconut milk with the liquid
drained off would probably do the trick...and it turned out to be the exact
perfect consistency that it didn't gag her *and* helped her adapt to less
solid foods because I could put it a little back on her tongue where it
would melt... now she *can* do purees if they happen to be what we have
handy. Common sense said that stuffing her full of formula could be
potentially counterproductive to how much she nurses and that all she really
needed was a hundred or so extra calories per day (which is all I've been
giving her most of the time)...and she's been putting on more weight than
just 100 extra calories would cause, so doing it this way her nursing has
improved.

And from the get go I felt that she probably would NOT take formula well,
that bottles were something she'd have to spend a lot of time relearning,
and that formula was a relatively inefficient and allergenic way of getting
100 calories into her. The doctor gave us samples of a 22 calorie per ounce
formula (btw...breastmilk is 22 calories per ounce, so why this is "high
calorie" I don't know) and I read the ingredient list. And couldn't bring
myself to give that to her. Finally went to the store and bought a can of
Good Start... the ingredient list was quite a bit simpler at the top and I
figured the worst case was that she'd develop a whey allergy rather than an
allergy to other milk proteins (whey is a little easier to avoid than
casien, and tends to be better labeled.)

Fed her one 2-oz bottle. Took 40 minutes and a good bit of it ended up down
her front and there was half an ounce in the bottle when she was done...at
which point she latched onto the breast like a starving thing and went to
town nursing. (My dad gave the bottle.) She seemed to do okay with it. Two
days later we tried again... same basic result only she got most of the
stuff in her.

The next morning she woke up sniffly and congested. So we won't be trying
milk or soy-based formula again for a while, if at all. It's the first time
she's gotten sick in months. We all got sick around the same time, so it may
well not be a reaction, but I don't really care. The formula is not worth
the worry, not for 100 calories. Plus I don't want her having milk-based
stuff when she's got a cold, not when we have a choice.

Anyway, so I'm going by instinct. Every time I try to "correct" myself and
"do what I'm supposed to do" it doesn't work. When I go by instinct, it's
fine. The foods we eat tend to be free of egg, milk, soy and peanuts. I will
avoid giving her wheat for a while. But the thing that's worked best is to
make something for dinner every night that she can have a piece of and give
her some of whatever-that-is. Tonight, she gets to try chicken. Maybe in
coconut milk. With brown rice. Mmmmmm.

Jenrose

[Hillary Israeli]

In <1129979182.089b7b301179e345b8a6cd72b3befd77@terane ws>,
Jenrose > wrote:

*She hit 15 pounds last night. She's also started saying "buh" sounds and
*often says "Mmmmmmm" when we walk about banana...lol!

Aw. Lilah (almost 9 mos) is about 15 1/4 lbs these days, too! She also
loves banana but I don't let her have much because she has, um, certain
issues she probably wouldn't like me to discuss in public :)

--
Hillary Israeli, VMD
Lafayette Hill/PA/USA/Earth
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is
too dark to read." --Groucho Marx

[Amy]

Jenrose wrote:

> Tonight we tried the baby safe feeder...OMG.... she chowed down about 2/3 of
> a banana that way. LOVED chomping into the little bag and getting out lots
> of yummy banana moosh...ended up chomping, sucking, chewing and drooling her
> way through two big banana chunks. So focused.

I got a couple of those handed down to me from my aunt, and wondered
what to put in them. Hadn't thought of banana. Good idea. You can
start using baby safe feeders when you start solids, right? Around 6
months? Or should I wait until she's able to handle more than puree,
just in case?

Are they dishwasher safe?

Thanks for the info! Glad Shiny's doing so well!!

Amy

[Patagonia]

"Jenrose" > wrote in message
news:1130015513.b9798d378973911ef64a9f93156d8679@t eranews...
>
>>
>> Cool - I guess that's just another thing to show that you can't just go
>> by generalizations with these teeny people.
>>
>> Glad to hear she's making some better gains!
>>
>
> It's funny because I thought I would be obsessive about "order of
> introduction" and always leaving 4-5 days between foods with Shiny, and
> I'm not. I've been playing it by instinct and common sense as much as
> possible, and it's done me pretty well. For example, it was a total whim
> to feed her banana on my finger vs. banana puree... she handled it
> beautifully the first time out. When I thought, "Hmmm" and pureed some
> banana for her and gave her that, she had a really hard time with it. She
> did great with whole rice... and horribly with the rice cereal I gave her
> because, you know, we're "supposed" to give high iron foods at this stage.
>
> My instinct said that all she needed to get back on track with normal
> weight gain was to add some fat to what she was eating but that it needed
> to be a relatively "solid" fat and that full fat coconut milk with the
> liquid drained off would probably do the trick...and it turned out to be
> the exact perfect consistency that it didn't gag her *and* helped her
> adapt to less solid foods because I could put it a little back on her
> tongue where it would melt... now she *can* do purees if they happen to be
> what we have handy. Common sense said that stuffing her full of formula
> could be potentially counterproductive to how much she nurses and that all
> she really needed was a hundred or so extra calories per day (which is all
> I've been giving her most of the time)...and she's been putting on more
> weight than just 100 extra calories would cause, so doing it this way her
> nursing has improved.
>
> And from the get go I felt that she probably would NOT take formula well,
> that bottles were something she'd have to spend a lot of time relearning,
> and that formula was a relatively inefficient and allergenic way of
> getting 100 calories into her. The doctor gave us samples of a 22 calorie
> per ounce formula (btw...breastmilk is 22 calories per ounce, so why this
> is "high calorie" I don't know) and I read the ingredient list. And
> couldn't bring myself to give that to her. Finally went to the store and
> bought a can of Good Start... the ingredient list was quite a bit simpler
> at the top and I figured the worst case was that she'd develop a whey
> allergy rather than an allergy to other milk proteins (whey is a little
> easier to avoid than casien, and tends to be better labeled.)
>
> Fed her one 2-oz bottle. Took 40 minutes and a good bit of it ended up
> down her front and there was half an ounce in the bottle when she was
> done...at which point she latched onto the breast like a starving thing
> and went to town nursing. (My dad gave the bottle.) She seemed to do okay
> with it. Two days later we tried again... same basic result only she got
> most of the stuff in her.
>
> The next morning she woke up sniffly and congested. So we won't be trying
> milk or soy-based formula again for a while, if at all. It's the first
> time she's gotten sick in months. We all got sick around the same time, so
> it may well not be a reaction, but I don't really care. The formula is not
> worth the worry, not for 100 calories. Plus I don't want her having
> milk-based stuff when she's got a cold, not when we have a choice.
>
> Anyway, so I'm going by instinct. Every time I try to "correct" myself and
> "do what I'm supposed to do" it doesn't work. When I go by instinct, it's
> fine. The foods we eat tend to be free of egg, milk, soy and peanuts. I
> will avoid giving her wheat for a while. But the thing that's worked best
> is to make something for dinner every night that she can have a piece of
> and give her some of whatever-that-is. Tonight, she gets to try chicken.
> Maybe in coconut milk. With brown rice. Mmmmmm.
>
> Jenrose

Sounds like it's working for you - so keep it up!

I have a 3yo ds with whom we did the foods in the "right" order, and at the
moment he is quite a picky eater. That may be because we didn't introduce
him to our foods early enough (we eat pretty highly seasoned foods), or just
because it's "the age" for pickiness, but . . . with my 2.5 month old dd, I
would like to go a little non-traditional once she starts foods, so it is
good to hear that this is working well for you. I didn't get the jarred
babyfood anyway - always made my own, but I was planning this time around on
just getting one of those baby food mills and grinding up whatever we're
eating for dinner once she can handle the texture. Maybe that way we won't
have quite the struggles with dinner in a couple years . . . (or maybe
that's just wishful thinking)!

[Jenrose]

"Amy" > wrote in message
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>
> Jenrose wrote:
>
>> Tonight we tried the baby safe feeder...OMG.... she chowed down about 2/3
>> of
>> a banana that way. LOVED chomping into the little bag and getting out
>> lots
>> of yummy banana moosh...ended up chomping, sucking, chewing and drooling
>> her
>> way through two big banana chunks. So focused.
>
> I got a couple of those handed down to me from my aunt, and wondered
> what to put in them. Hadn't thought of banana. Good idea. You can
> start using baby safe feeders when you start solids, right? Around 6
> months? Or should I wait until she's able to handle more than puree,
> just in case?
>

All that comes through the mesh is puree, anyway.

> Are they dishwasher safe?
>
Yeah, I think so.

Jenrose

[Irene]

Yay - great to hear Shiny is gaining so well, and enjoying new foods!
I haven't been spending much time on mk groups lately, either - too
much time at TBW! ;-)

Fwiw, dd never liked applesauce, either.

Have you tried avocado yet?

Irene

[sharalyns]

That's awesome! WTG Shiny!
Sharalyn

[Hillary Israeli]

In . com>,
Amy > wrote:

*
*Jenrose wrote:
*
*> Tonight we tried the baby safe feeder...OMG.... she chowed down about 2/3 of
*> a banana that way. LOVED chomping into the little bag and getting out lots
*> of yummy banana moosh...ended up chomping, sucking, chewing and drooling her
*> way through two big banana chunks. So focused.
*
*I got a couple of those handed down to me from my aunt, and wondered
*what to put in them. Hadn't thought of banana. Good idea. You can

FYI... I bought one some years ago when my son was a baby. He would have
NO PART of it. I tried it on my older daughter when she was a baby. She
also would have NO PART of it. So I chucked it! Now of course hearing that
other babies like it, I'm kind of wishing I had it now to try on Lilah but
oh well.

--
Hillary Israeli, VMD
Lafayette Hill/PA/USA/Earth
"Outside of a dog, a book is a man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it is
too dark to read." --Groucho Marx

[Jenrose]

"Irene" > wrote in message
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> Yay - great to hear Shiny is gaining so well, and enjoying new foods!
> I haven't been spending much time on mk groups lately, either - too
> much time at TBW! ;-)
>
> Fwiw, dd never liked applesauce, either.
>
> Have you tried avocado yet?
>
yep. she's picky though. only likes *good* ones, merely ok is not enough.

nak
jenrose

[Irene]

Jenrose wrote:
> "Irene" > wrote in message
> ups.com...

> > Have you tried avocado yet?
> >
> yep. she's picky though. only likes *good* ones, merely ok is not enough.
>
> nak
> jenrose

Dd is picky about avocado, too - sometimes she'll eat it, and sometimes
not. Since dh is the only one in the family who eats it normally, I
don't buy it very often, but I probably should remember more often. ;-)
Dh has finally found a couple of recipes where I can tolerate it - I
used to hate it in every form!

Irene