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givehope2005
November 27th 05, 03:40 AM
I don't know how old any of you are, but let me tell you, things are
not like they used to be. You used to be able to go to your neigbors
house and ask for help with all kinds of things. Now you may be living
next door to Ted Bundy and never know it. You have to be careful and I
for one think it's a shame!!! You don't know who to trust and when you
do need help there is never anyone around for you. These are some of
the problems I have run into throughout my short life. I decided I
wanted to do something about it. I have started a service in which I
connect people who need each other. So if you are in need of help or
you feel as if you have help to offer someone else, visit my website
and let's change the way the world is turning. Give each other hope
that there are still people out there that care.

http://www.webspawner.com/users/givehope2005/index.html

Moon Shyne
November 27th 05, 03:49 AM
Sure....... as long as they pay a small fee.

Can we say spam?


"givehope2005" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I don't know how old any of you are, but let me tell you, things are
> not like they used to be. You used to be able to go to your neigbors
> house and ask for help with all kinds of things. Now you may be living
> next door to Ted Bundy and never know it. You have to be careful and I
> for one think it's a shame!!! You don't know who to trust and when you
> do need help there is never anyone around for you. These are some of
> the problems I have run into throughout my short life. I decided I
> wanted to do something about it. I have started a service in which I
> connect people who need each other. So if you are in need of help or
> you feel as if you have help to offer someone else, visit my website
> and let's change the way the world is turning. Give each other hope
> that there are still people out there that care.
>
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/givehope2005/index.html
>

BS
November 27th 05, 04:01 AM
Sorry Givehope,, I have great neighbors. Send me $5.00 and I'll email you a
list of houses for sale in my area. Stop trying to take money from others.





"givehope2005" > wrote in message
ups.com...
>I don't know how old any of you are, but let me tell you, things are
> not like they used to be. You used to be able to go to your neigbors
> house and ask for help with all kinds of things. Now you may be living
> next door to Ted Bundy and never know it. You have to be careful and I
> for one think it's a shame!!! You don't know who to trust and when you
> do need help there is never anyone around for you. These are some of
> the problems I have run into throughout my short life. I decided I
> wanted to do something about it. I have started a service in which I
> connect people who need each other. So if you are in need of help or
> you feel as if you have help to offer someone else, visit my website
> and let's change the way the world is turning. Give each other hope
> that there are still people out there that care.
>
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/givehope2005/index.html
>

Bev
November 27th 05, 12:50 PM
givehope2005 wrote:
> I don't know how old any of you are, but let me tell you, things are
> not like they used to be. You used to be able to go to your neigbors
> house and ask for help with all kinds of things. Now you may be living
> next door to Ted Bundy and never know it. You have to be careful and I
> for one think it's a shame!!! You don't know who to trust and when you
> do need help there is never anyone around for you. These are some of
> the problems I have run into throughout my short life. I decided I
> wanted to do something about it. I have started a service in which I
> connect people who need each other. So if you are in need of help or
> you feel as if you have help to offer someone else, visit my website
> and let's change the way the world is turning. Give each other hope
> that there are still people out there that care.
>
> http://www.webspawner.com/users/givehope2005/index.html

OK Givehope, I believe what you may be trying to do is indeed help
others and your idea very well can be a success and indeed be something
that some people that do not have trustable neighbors or help from
familycould benefit from. It appears you are trying to find a way as a
single parent to also make ends meet. I try to help others myself in my
neighborhood, I know there is a need, I feel good when I am able to
help out. I do not charge a fee. It just so happens that I am in a
class right now that is teaching me some marketing skills ! I would
like to take this opportunity to share with you that this that you are
doing is not marketing your service. There are ways to market your
service through the net but invading newsgroups and peoples e-mail is
very bad business ethics.Tends to turn the "Hyde's" into "Jekyll's" as
you can see the responses you have gotten are not exactly pleasant.
Here is the punch line ...............There are several things you need
to do now, first you should always refrain from advertising in a
newsgroup, In order to start a successful business you should educate
yourself on which segments of the internet you should target, this not
being one of them. Having some business skills and education can help
you make your idea become an actual service to others. In truth using
the internet as your only source of advertising will fail! I suggest
you research marketing your service / product . I am not gonna charge
you for my time and advice, but I would like it if you would tell us
more about yourself and your children and how you got to be a single
parent? Unless ..........................?

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 02:02 PM
Thank you Bev, for seeing that I am not just out to try and make a
killing off of other people. That is not my intention at all. If that
were the case I would simply take others money and never speak to them
again. This is what I am talking about. No one trusts anyone anymore.
One person said something about how her neighbors were good and she
would hook us up with them, well I am glad she has people around her
that help her and she can turn to them when she needs them. I, on the
other hand, have not had that benefit. I have 3 small children and
have no one but myself to look to. No matter how hard I try, that is,
sometimes, just not enough. Up until about three months ago I was in
college studying education. Life was good. I was working toward a
dream I'd had since high school. Then suddenly everything changed.
The man I had been with for 9 years and the father of my children never
came home one night. I wish I could say he left me for another woman
or he just didn't love me anymore but that was not the case. He went
to jail. And now he is in prision and won't be home for over a year.
I'm not even sure if I am going to let him come home after leaving me
this way. Bear with me because there is a lot to say. My oldest son
has been diagnosed with several mental health problems including
bipolar disorder. He goes to a school trained to deal with children
with behavior issues but they can't seem to control him. He has been
suspended more times than I can count already this school year. So I
had to quit school because I too was spending more time out than in. I
am now looking at having to home school him. Finding a job is almost
impossible at this time. I have to be here for him and my other two
babies. I was at a loss as to what to do. Then I thought how
beneficial it would be if I could help others find the help I need so
badly. I can't be the only one in this situation. You are right that
this isn't the best way to market my service, but I have no money to
invest in that right now and all the legit ways I have found to
advertise cost money. I am deeply hurt that people would think I was
just out to make money. I just want to help others. I don't have to
charge for the service, but that is how I am helping me at this time
and what I would be undertaking would be huge. There would be a lot of
time involved. I would in a sense be working and doing something for
others at the same time. If you have any suggestions as to how I can
market this without offending people or come across as a money seeker I
would appreciate it. I just don't have the money to invest in it.
Thank you again for seeing me for what I am. The other posts kind of
shocked me.

Bev
November 27th 05, 04:03 PM
givehope2005 wrote:
> Thank you Bev, for seeing that I am not just out to try and make a
> killing off of other people. That is not my intention at all. If that
> were the case I would simply take others money and never speak to them
> again. This is what I am talking about. No one trusts anyone anymore.

Is your name Hope by any chance :) ? This is what I will call you
unless you say differently.
I am glad you took my invitation to introduce yourself a bit. Trust is
not something many people have these days, it is hard to trust, my own
sister took me for a bad ride recently.

> One person said something about how her neighbors were good and she
> would hook us up with them, well I am glad she has people around her
> that help her and she can turn to them when she needs them. I, on the
> other hand, have not had that benefit. I have 3 small children and
> have no one but myself to look to. No matter how hard I try, that is,
> sometimes, just not enough.

Don't you have any family at all or close friends ? It is hard to
manage without any support.

>Up until about three months ago I was in
> college studying education. Life was good. I was working toward a
> dream I'd had since high school. Then suddenly everything changed.
> The man I had been with for 9 years and the father of my children never
> came home one night. I wish I could say he left me for another woman
> or he just didn't love me anymore but that was not the case. He went
> to jail. And now he is in prision and won't be home for over a year.
> I'm not even sure if I am going to let him come home after leaving me
> this way.

Wow ! That really sucks to say it bluntly....... don't give up on your
dreams, this situation is only a stepping stone, throughout life we get
hit with many foreseen and unforeseen challenges and dissapointments. I
have had many myself and I understand. I am so sorry you ended up in
this situation because of your partners poor judgement.

>Bear with me because there is a lot to say. My oldest son
> has been diagnosed with several mental health problems including
> bipolar disorder.

Does he see a doctor, take medication? I am in tune to what you may be
going through, I am on an "up" right now with my own child that was
diagnosed bipolar almost 5 years ago.

>He goes to a school trained to deal with children
> with behavior issues but they can't seem to control him. He has been
> suspended more times than I can count already this school year. So I
> had to quit school because I too was spending more time out than in.

This I do not quite understand? My daughter's behavior in school most
definately interfered with my ability to keep a job, she remained in
public school in the emotional support classes and partial hospital
classes available in our school district. At least when she did go to
school, she is 18 now and finally went back to school just recently, to
graduate H.S. So what I am saying is if he is going to a special school
that is trained, he is where he should be and how can they suspend him
when they specialise and are supposed to understand the illness?

> I am now looking at having to home school him. Finding a job is almost
> impossible at this time. I have to be here for him and my other two
> babies. I was at a loss as to what to do.

What were you doing to accomidate your son and other children prior to
your partners arrest? I know you said you went to school, aparently was
not working, so was he working and have you looked into public
assistance for the time being for you and the children?

Then I thought how
> beneficial it would be if I could help others find the help I need so
> badly. I can't be the only one in this situation. You are right that
> this isn't the best way to market my service, but I have no money to
> invest in that right now and all the legit ways I have found to
> advertise cost money.

Yes advertising does cost money and yes something you really can't
spend money on right now. Maybe what you could do is make up some
flyers , print them out and post them in nearby stores. Focus on some
local people that may see a use in forming a local group of single
parents that can help eachother out.Heck you may even find couples that
are willing to join the group, and this may be something to help you
right now, not looking at it to make money but to help you in your own
situation!

>I am deeply hurt that people would think I was
> just out to make money. I just want to help others. I don't have to
> charge for the service, but that is how I am helping me at this time
> and what I would be undertaking would be huge. There would be a lot of
> time involved. I would in a sense be working and doing something for
> others at the same time.

Don't be hurt so much, just take it as a learning experience. My advice
to you would be to focus on using the available help in your area that
is there to help you when such a situation happens. I was not too proud
to take the available help when I needed it , sometimes you have to do
this, take it a day at a time and focus on getting things stable for
yourself before venturing outside of your own neighborhood.

>If you have any suggestions as to how I can
> market this without offending people or come across as a money seeker I
> would appreciate it. I just don't have the money to invest in it.
> Thank you again for seeing me for what I am. The other posts kind of
> shocked me.

It is a small fee that maybe people could afford, you have to remember
that most people needing help don't have 5 bucks either! My advice
really truthfully is that you focus on your own situation first and
seek out a community within your neighborhood that could band together
to establish this idea to help eachother get on their feet. By
networking yourself within your home area this way, you will meet many
people that know others that may be able to point you in a direction
that will help make your ability to help yourself and your children get
through this hard time.

Communicating the hardships you are going through and allowing people
to give suggestions is your best resource right now, this group has a
wide variety of folks, from different situations, although blunt and to
the point , if it is advice you want ask for it. I had to learn how to
digest and realise some of the advice I have gotten , although harsh at
times helped me see outside of the box!
Bev

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 07:15 PM
Kate I think you are extremely rude! I am sorry to say that. Think
about what you say before you say it. If I were to apologize to people
you surely wouldn't be one of them. There are ways to talk to people
and ways not to and I think you are the perfect example of how not to.
You do not know anything about me or where I live. My neighbors are
not the kind of people I want to associate me or my children with
outside of them living next door. I am in nothing for money!!!!! Try
to find something better to do than judge others.

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 07:18 PM
Thank you Bev. You are a very caring person. I would love to talk to
you outside of this group area. I feel as if everything I say here is
going to be torn apart by one particular person. My name is not Hope.
It's Cindi. You can e-mail me at and maybe we
can talk more

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 07:50 PM
And you are still being rude. I'm sorry if you can't see how you have
attacked me. Like I said before you need to pay attention to how you
address people. There was a much better way to go about expressing
your opinions and feelings than the way you did. If you need some help
on how to do that read Bev's posts. You could learn a lot from her.

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 08:12 PM
If you behave like this
to everyone, then perhaps that's one reason why you are lacking in
support IRL. Think about it.

"gimme gimme... Kate is being rude to me... poor me, my life is so sad"

You don't feel as if that is rude??? I am willing to make a truce here
if you will stop saying things like that. As I said before, you really
don't know much about me. You were very quick to judge. I, in no way,
feel as if I am a victim of anything. Possibly the victim of poor
choices but other than that no. And I never said my life was sad.
It's not perfect, but it could be a lot worse. All I did was answer
some questions for Bev. I didn't volunteer my pity story. And I don't
behave like that to everyone. Only to defend myself when need be. All
I'm asking is that you find a nicer way to make your point without
offending others. If that's how you behave then I would be surprised
if you have much support either.

Now can we be done with this nonsense????

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 08:46 PM
I can see this is pointless!!!!! You obviously want to keep things
going and I do not. So I will leave it at this. GROW UP!!!!!! You
don't have to like me and frankly I don't care if you do or not. If
this were a different place or time I would say a little more but there
are other people who will read this and I don't want to offend them. I
don't see how you could have any friends. And by the way, we all have
different personalities and mine craves harmony and peace. Yours is
the exact opposite. You need conflict and thrive on it. Whatever. I
will not respond to any more of your posts.

givehope2005
November 27th 05, 08:48 PM
I forgot to add one thing.....I don't want to change. I like me just
the way I am. I don't need to know how anyone "experiences me so I can
change" I am a good, kind person and you are missing out

Bev
November 27th 05, 09:52 PM
Cindi, Yes I am a caring person, and I know Kate is as well. As are
many others in this group. I understand what you are feeling, I did try
to explain to you that "seeing outside of the box" will help you get
more from this group than your feelings hurt, or feeling that you are
being judged. You made a mistake which was brought to your attention by
several people including myself, an apology for violating the groups
rules would have helped make things different. I am not private
emailing with anyone other than family at the moment , I am at times
available on aim mommamia0721 . I hope that you work out the
misunderstanding of Kate's intentions here in the group. Her advice has
been quite valuable to me many times ....even if it hurt , and yes
sometimes it did, because the truth does hurt sometimes.
Bev

Bev
November 28th 05, 01:06 AM
Yea I saw that, what was that you taught me? Ahhhh I remember...OH WELL
!!!!!!!! Live some you learn some "they" say :)

P. Fritz
November 28th 05, 01:20 AM
"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On 27 Nov 2005 11:50:14 -0800, "givehope2005" >
> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker:
>
>> And you are still being rude. I'm sorry if you can't see how you have
>>attacked me. Like I said before you need to pay attention to how you
>>address people. There was a much better way to go about expressing
>>your opinions and feelings than the way you did. If you need some help
>>on how to do that read Bev's posts. You could learn a lot from her.
>
> And yet, you still don't get it.
> You are revictimizing yourself by playing the person being treated
> rudely. Nothing bad happened to you here but you're making it into
> something bigger. A mountain out of a molehill. If you behave like this
> to everyone, then perhaps that's one reason why you are lacking in
> support IRL. Think about it.
>
> "gimme gimme... Kate is being rude to me... poor me, my life is so sad"
>
> It's not about me.
> And you're still not taking responsibility.

Is "gh" related to Lorain? LOL

>
>
>

givehope2005
November 28th 05, 02:42 AM
Ok, I have obviously offended some of you and I'm not quite sure how
other than I advertised something honest I was trying to do and for
that I am sorry. I enjoyed talking to most of you. I never intended
to take advantage of anyone. I am trying to be the bigger person here
and say I was wrong. I'm sure someone will have something negative to
say about this post. If what ya'll want is for me to disappear, I can
do that. Don't let me interrupt your happy family. Just to clarify, I
did not mean that in a bad way even if it sounded like it. As for you
Kate, I have read several of the other topics and the posts you have
placed there and you do not sound like you are a bad person. I'm truly
sorry if we got off on the wrong foot. I don't know if that can be
repaired or not. And I am no where near psycho!!!!! Just trying to
fix whatever it was I broke.

Kim
November 28th 05, 12:14 PM
"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On 27 Nov 2005 18:42:02 -0800, "givehope2005" >
> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker:
>
>>Ok, I have obviously offended some of you and I'm not quite sure how
>>other than I advertised something honest I was trying to do and for
>>that I am sorry. I enjoyed talking to most of you. I never intended
>>to take advantage of anyone. I am trying to be the bigger person here
>>and say I was wrong. I'm sure someone will have something negative to
>>say about this post. If what ya'll want is for me to disappear, I can
>>do that. Don't let me interrupt your happy family. Just to clarify, I
>>did not mean that in a bad way even if it sounded like it. As for you
>>Kate, I have read several of the other topics and the posts you have
>>placed there and you do not sound like you are a bad person. I'm truly
>>sorry if we got off on the wrong foot. I don't know if that can be
>>repaired or not. And I am no where near psycho!!!!! Just trying to
>>fix whatever it was I broke.
>
> Apologising for something that you did wrong is not being "the bigger
> person;" it's doing what you were supposed to already know to do. My
> opinion is that you burned your bridges by behaving like a child who has
> lied her way out of trouble her whole life.
>
> I'm not the boss here. You're free to post whatever you want. If I know
> this group, I'd say you'd even get sound advice if you asked for it. I
> would, however, knock off the crap that you think has worked on others
> in your life. It won't fly here. Oh, and you need to knock off the
> "????". You and I know what you did. Anyone who knows a little about the
> 'net can see what you did.
>
> 'Kate
>

OK I'm amused... Thanks for the monday morning chuckles guys and gals! lol
One little question... nope never mind somoene else might pick it up lol I'm
not *grin* Have a great day folks!

Kim

givehope2005
November 28th 05, 02:14 PM
I won't argue with you about much but one ting I am not is a liar! I
may be a lot of other things and I could think of a few to name, but
not a liar.

P Fritz
November 28th 05, 02:37 PM
"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On Sun, 27 Nov 2005 20:20:37 -0500, "P. Fritz"
> > the following was posted in blue dry
> erase marker:
>
>
> > Is "gh" related to Lorain? LOL
>
> Now now.
>

Sorry......I couldn't resist ;-)

CME
November 29th 05, 01:28 AM
"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On 28 Nov 2005 06:14:19 -0800, "givehope2005" >
> the following was posted in blue dry erase marker:
>
>>I won't argue with you about much but one ting I am not is a liar! I
>>may be a lot of other things and I could think of a few to name, but
>>not a liar.
>
> Your posts all have the same identifying information. You lied by
> feigning ignorance of the Queen posts.
>
> But here you go again acting the drama queen and making this a much
> bigger thing than it needs to be. You lied and the only thing you don't
> like about it is getting caught.
>

Cracks me up that the people who lie, are so bloody stupid at it. lol

Christine

Bev
November 29th 05, 02:01 AM
Well I fell into that one , thanks for the life preserver, I wish I had
not put my aim out there, I like that "nick" my kiddos gave it to me
:) and now I'll have to change it ...if she bugs me, which she hasn't,
so maybe it will be ok. I am so gullable , did I spell that right?
Well time to warm up the Taxi ! laters! Bev

Kim
November 29th 05, 11:51 AM
"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On 28 Nov 2005 18:01:34 -0800, "Bev" > the
> following was posted in blue dry erase marker:
>
>>Well I fell into that one , thanks for the life preserver, I wish I had
>>not put my aim out there, I like that "nick" my kiddos gave it to me
>>:) and now I'll have to change it ...if she bugs me, which she hasn't,
>>so maybe it will be ok. I am so gullable , did I spell that right?
>>Well time to warm up the Taxi ! laters! Bev
>
> I hope she doesn't pester you.
>
> And you're not gull (I dunno how to spell it either) able? ible.
> Probably gullible. I don't think you're gullible.
>
> 'Kate
>

Teehee spell-check is your friend... gullible

Bev
November 29th 05, 05:09 PM
but .....whad abut skool?

Bev
November 30th 05, 02:45 AM
>but .....whad abut skool?


I 4-get. Whutz skool?

I have to stop now because I really can't keep poking fun with
this.........for the obvious reasons.
Shame on me............shame on you too! Bad Girl!

Moon Shyne
November 30th 05, 04:03 AM
"Bev" > wrote in message
oups.com...
> >but .....whad abut skool?
>
>
> I 4-get. Whutz skool?
>
> I have to stop now because I really can't keep poking fun with
> this.........for the obvious reasons.
> Shame on me............shame on you too! Bad Girl!

Don't you say shame on her - she's edumacated!!


>

Bev
November 30th 05, 07:10 AM
>> >but .....whad abut skool?


>> I 4-get. Whutz skool?


>> I have to stop now because I really can't keep poking fun with
>> this.........for the obvious reasons.
>> Shame on me............shame on you too! Bad Girl!


>Don't you say shame on her - she's edumacated!!



>I is still wondrin wat the obvious reasonss are.

>It's hard to type wrong.

I end up feeling bad about poking fun at this kind of stuff because my
daughter has learning disabilities and I know how much she struggles
............mom thing :(

I have cried reading some of her writing, wondering what her life
was/is/and will be because of this.
Just me, carry on if you must....................

Kim
November 30th 05, 12:04 PM
"'Kate" > wrote in message
...
> On 29 Nov 2005 09:09:06 -0800, "Bev" > the
> following was posted in blue dry erase marker:
>
>>but .....whad abut skool?
>
>
> I 4-get. Whutz skool?
>
It's where you get your edjamakashun!!!

Bev
November 30th 05, 02:18 PM
Thanks Kate , I thought you would understand I do remember you telling
me about her. How are your kiddo's doing these days? S is still going
to school in the a.m. and still holding her job in the afternoons! She
earned herself over 600.00 bucks this month ...what a self esteem
booster! She is so proud of herself, she gives me 50.00 each two weeks,
and I let her ! LOL! Christmas is so exciting to her this year, all she
wants me to do is cook, she wants to supply everything from the tree to
the meal, and asked if she could invite three of her friends on x-mas
eve that have children also.( So I guess I would be the chef for her
x-mas eve gathering, like the hired help. LOL! NOT! )
So this year our christmas eve festivities will be shared with some
young single mothers and their kiddos! I am kinda excited about it
myself! Does not look like my oldest is coming home this year for
Christmas :( She will be home in July though :) so you know what that
means!!!! yup .......Christmas in July!!!!! Sad/****ed/heart ripped out
to say the least, about a month and half ago, after my sister went back
to the crack and she stole over 4oo. bucks from me, I told her I never
wanted to see her again...........my younger bro. and wife are
expecting their 4th (hopfully girl this time!) on the 20 th of december
( which is also J's 2nd birthday!) will not be able to attend the
traditional christmas eve, my older bro( the wanderer), still has not
returned the rsvp so I just don't know if I will see him, and well mom
and the youngest sis are out there in the warmTexas weather for X-mas !
Very different holidays this year for us, I mean I thought without G
and Dad it's been different the past 5-6 years but now it is getting
even harder, Time to start our own traditions cause the ones mom and
dad had going are over , well not over , some of the old traditions
will remain, but now it feels like I have stepped into the next stage,
I don't know does anybody understand this babble? I know what I am
trying to say just wonder if it is clear? Hey would anyone like my
grandmothers stuffed squid recipe ? :) Bev

Bev
December 1st 05, 12:55 PM
>I don't know does anybody understand this babble? I know what I am
>trying to say just wonder if it is clear?


>It's perfectly understandable. You got stuff going on *and* you're back
>on your feet and ready to tackle it in your own way.

Oh good...Glad you understood the jumble of thoughts :)

>Sorry that your oldest won't be there for christmas (unless something
>changes) And bad on your sister for doing what she did. Hope you hear
>from your brother, the wanderer.

My oldest had actually made these plans a while ago. Seems I guess
since graduating H.S. and moving out there she hasn't been there for a
single x-mas. She is also tired of traveling during the hustle of the
holidays. I kinda understand........She wanted us to go there!

Yea my sister really burned the bridge between us. She kept saying Oh I
see it's about the money with you........I could not make her
understand it was not the money it was that she stole from me, we
managed to survive without the bill money for a month, just catching up
now, but what happened leaves a major scar on me, I keep trying to make
excuses for her, maybe the aids is affecting her brain, she is an
addict, then I remember the sick smirk on her face when I confronted
her about taking the money.
The doctor told her she is killing herself with the drugs , that it is
not the aids, I learned that after I opened my door to her.

I finally did hear from the older brother, If I want him here i am
gonna have to drive to Newark, New Jersey to pick him up and take him
back! Like a three hour round trip ugh..............<thinking>



>Hey would anyone like my grandmothers stuffed squid recipe ?


>Pass.

LOL! <grin> What's a matter you ? Looks nothing like a squid on your
plate ..............

Bev
December 2nd 05, 01:23 PM
>People who are addicted to substances aren't able to think straight. The
>substance takes over. They become the way to comfort yourself. If I was
>in her shoes, I wouldn't want to stop the thing that is comforting me.
>She has a choice with drugs. She doesn't have a choice with AIDS. It
>doesn't make it right to steal from family though.

Ya know that is exactly it, I understand , or lets just say I dont
judge her, she did fall into the drugs after the diagnosis 18 years
ago! She has lived so long with this , and I can't say how I would
behave if I were walking in her shoes. I have accepted bad treatment
from her before trying to understand, this time, by stealing our bill
money she hurt my whole family, we had to do without, that I am angry
and said I never want to see her again , hurts me more than it hurts
her I think. She does not care.
What makes this even worse is that my neice, her daughter, was told the
money her mother had was stolen from me and even after knowing that, my
neice was given 100.00 of that money and she took it ,I asked her why
after knowing her mom stole it from me, she said she needed it for
rent! My neice does not understand why I told her that she stole from
me as well then , because she knew before she took it where it came
from.So then the web spins deeper because my sister helped her daughter
with some of the money. You don't steal from anyone let alone family !
Bev

Bev
December 3rd 05, 12:47 PM
>I agree. Are you filing charges against your sister?

As much as I probably should, I'm not,I learned a big lesson,I have
taken my losses with her and am moving on. No matter what I would do,
there will always be this bad memory which sucks in itself.
Bev