Re: Barney Fife v Commander McBrag

[Greegor]

Kane wrote
> Reposting a prior post, while NOT posting my full reply to it.
> What IS the point, Greg?

You ARE your own worst enemy, Kane!



In alt.support.child-protective-services

> >> Kane wrote
> >>> I would have sworn you knew that CPS does not pick families to investigate.
> >>> They receive reports.
> >> So did the Nazi's.
> >> Nazi Youth were encouraged to report their own parents!
> >> Does the "report" nullify the abuse??
> >>
> >> Or is it like "I Wass Jusst followingk Orderss!" ?
> >>
> >>
> >> In regard to them not picking families to investigate:
> >>
> >> Failure to properly SCREEN OUT reports qualifies as
> >> required could be construed as "picking families" to investigate.
> >>
> >> But then, I am IN IOWA, the state famous for refusing to
> >> hand over their stats to the feds a few years ago,
> >> famous for HALF of all reports one year coming from
> >> workers THEMSELVES, and the state with the distinction
> >> that it removes children at THREE TIMES the national average.
> >>
> >> Maybe you should tell Jessie K. Rasmussen and
> >> Kevin William Concannon that Iowa caseworkers
> >> do not pick families to investigate!
> >>
> >> More interesting to me is the pretense that most
> >> CPS cases involve hardcore sexual abuse.
> >>
> >> This is like Barney Fife of Mayberry bragging
> >> about all of the CRIMINALS he has to deal with.
> >>
> >> Barney was guilty of demagoguery in an
> >> effort to enhance his own IMAGE and ego.
> >>
> >> It was transparent and humorous to the viewer.
> >>
> >> The everyday MUNDANE reality was of course also
> >> obvious, checking Otis the town drunk into his cell.
> >>
> >> For caseworkers I strongly suspect that the
> >> MUNDANE day to day activity is mostly driven
> >> by divorce and child custody battles, the sort
> >> of stuff the CPS agencies are
> >> NOT SUPPOSED TO DO!
> >>
> >> Heck, in 40-60% of removals the agencies THEMSELVES
> >> report to the Feds that they actually have
> >> NO BASIS for the removal in the first place!
> >>
> >> So quit this BS pretense that they are all about
> >> brutality and sexual abuse. It just is not so.
> >>
> >> Just because Barney Fife caught a Bank Robber once
> >> does NOT make that typical of his day to day work!
> >>
> >> Well over half of all law enforcement officers retire
> >> having never once drawn their sidearm except on
> >> the practice range.

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Greegor wrote:
> Kane wrote
>> Reposting a prior post, while NOT posting my full reply to it.
>> What IS the point, Greg?
>
> You ARE your own worst enemy, Kane!

In other words the debate got "too complicated" for you?

I'd say that YOU are the one with the worst enemy in Greg.

0:->


>
>
>
> In alt.support.child-protective-services
>
>>>> Kane wrote
>>>>> I would have sworn you knew that CPS does not pick families to investigate.
>>>>> They receive reports.
>>>> So did the Nazi's.
>>>> Nazi Youth were encouraged to report their own parents!
>>>> Does the "report" nullify the abuse??
>>>>
>>>> Or is it like "I Wass Jusst followingk Orderss!" ?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> In regard to them not picking families to investigate:
>>>>
>>>> Failure to properly SCREEN OUT reports qualifies as
>>>> required could be construed as "picking families" to investigate.
>>>>
>>>> But then, I am IN IOWA, the state famous for refusing to
>>>> hand over their stats to the feds a few years ago,
>>>> famous for HALF of all reports one year coming from
>>>> workers THEMSELVES, and the state with the distinction
>>>> that it removes children at THREE TIMES the national average.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe you should tell Jessie K. Rasmussen and
>>>> Kevin William Concannon that Iowa caseworkers
>>>> do not pick families to investigate!
>>>>
>>>> More interesting to me is the pretense that most
>>>> CPS cases involve hardcore sexual abuse.
>>>>
>>>> This is like Barney Fife of Mayberry bragging
>>>> about all of the CRIMINALS he has to deal with.
>>>>
>>>> Barney was guilty of demagoguery in an
>>>> effort to enhance his own IMAGE and ego.
>>>>
>>>> It was transparent and humorous to the viewer.
>>>>
>>>> The everyday MUNDANE reality was of course also
>>>> obvious, checking Otis the town drunk into his cell.
>>>>
>>>> For caseworkers I strongly suspect that the
>>>> MUNDANE day to day activity is mostly driven
>>>> by divorce and child custody battles, the sort
>>>> of stuff the CPS agencies are
>>>> NOT SUPPOSED TO DO!
>>>>
>>>> Heck, in 40-60% of removals the agencies THEMSELVES
>>>> report to the Feds that they actually have
>>>> NO BASIS for the removal in the first place!
>>>>
>>>> So quit this BS pretense that they are all about
>>>> brutality and sexual abuse. It just is not so.
>>>>
>>>> Just because Barney Fife caught a Bank Robber once
>>>> does NOT make that typical of his day to day work!
>>>>
>>>> Well over half of all law enforcement officers retire
>>>> having never once drawn their sidearm except on
>>>> the practice range.
>


--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

[[email protected]]

Greegor,

Is pseudo-K still in here taunting you and other posters unaware of his
agenda? I thought after all this time he would have moved on to bigger
and better rants. Does anyone post helpful advice in here anymore on
appropriate parenting or is the "cohort" still pushing the same old
tired rhetoric of punish the parents?



Non-spanker by choice,
Chris C.
TX



0:-> wrote:
> Greegor wrote:
> > Kane wrote
> >> Reposting a prior post, while NOT posting my full reply to it.
> >> What IS the point, Greg?
> >
> > You ARE your own worst enemy, Kane!
>
> In other words the debate got "too complicated" for you?
>
> I'd say that YOU are the one with the worst enemy in Greg.
>
> 0:->
>
>
> >
> >
> >
> > In alt.support.child-protective-services
> >
> >>>> Kane wrote
> >>>>> I would have sworn you knew that CPS does not pick families to investigate.
> >>>>> They receive reports.
> >>>> So did the Nazi's.
> >>>> Nazi Youth were encouraged to report their own parents!
> >>>> Does the "report" nullify the abuse??
> >>>>
> >>>> Or is it like "I Wass Jusst followingk Orderss!" ?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> In regard to them not picking families to investigate:
> >>>>
> >>>> Failure to properly SCREEN OUT reports qualifies as
> >>>> required could be construed as "picking families" to investigate.
> >>>>
> >>>> But then, I am IN IOWA, the state famous for refusing to
> >>>> hand over their stats to the feds a few years ago,
> >>>> famous for HALF of all reports one year coming from
> >>>> workers THEMSELVES, and the state with the distinction
> >>>> that it removes children at THREE TIMES the national average.
> >>>>
> >>>> Maybe you should tell Jessie K. Rasmussen and
> >>>> Kevin William Concannon that Iowa caseworkers
> >>>> do not pick families to investigate!
> >>>>
> >>>> More interesting to me is the pretense that most
> >>>> CPS cases involve hardcore sexual abuse.
> >>>>
> >>>> This is like Barney Fife of Mayberry bragging
> >>>> about all of the CRIMINALS he has to deal with.
> >>>>
> >>>> Barney was guilty of demagoguery in an
> >>>> effort to enhance his own IMAGE and ego.
> >>>>
> >>>> It was transparent and humorous to the viewer.
> >>>>
> >>>> The everyday MUNDANE reality was of course also
> >>>> obvious, checking Otis the town drunk into his cell.
> >>>>
> >>>> For caseworkers I strongly suspect that the
> >>>> MUNDANE day to day activity is mostly driven
> >>>> by divorce and child custody battles, the sort
> >>>> of stuff the CPS agencies are
> >>>> NOT SUPPOSED TO DO!
> >>>>
> >>>> Heck, in 40-60% of removals the agencies THEMSELVES
> >>>> report to the Feds that they actually have
> >>>> NO BASIS for the removal in the first place!
> >>>>
> >>>> So quit this BS pretense that they are all about
> >>>> brutality and sexual abuse. It just is not so.
> >>>>
> >>>> Just because Barney Fife caught a Bank Robber once
> >>>> does NOT make that typical of his day to day work!
> >>>>
> >>>> Well over half of all law enforcement officers retire
> >>>> having never once drawn their sidearm except on
> >>>> the practice range.
> >
>
>
> --
> "Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
> to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
> contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

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wrote:
> Greegor,

Ah, the coward is back.

> Is pseudo-K still in here taunting you and other posters unaware of his
> agenda?

In other words you can't debate.

> I thought after all this time he would have moved on to bigger
> and better rants.

With folks as unprincipled and vicious as you popping up here?

> Does anyone post helpful advice in here anymore on
> appropriate parenting

Sure. There are current posters deeply involved in just that, with
little knats such as Doan and Greg buzzing about sniping about things
they are ignorant of, lying, misleading, and otherwise behaving like
someone from TX that has no children by chooses not to spank. 0:->

> or is the "cohort" still pushing the same old
> tired rhetoric of punish the parents?

Never was, still don't. Anti spanking advocates still promote other than
pain and humiliation parenting methods, and seek a law not unlike the
Swedish one that relies on social and moral suasion neighborly sanctions.

Your fantasies notwithstanding.

>
> Non-spanker by choice,
> Chris C.
> TX

Last I heard you had no children of your own. That right, Tex?

Odd that you'd be against those that agree with your "choice," eh?

The logic and honesty of the spanking cohort is a legend to behold.

0;->



--
"Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what
to have for lunch. Liberty is a well armed lamb
contesting the vote." - Benjamin Franklin (or someone else)

[Greegor]

Actually Chris, The bizarre concept of lobbyist
"ringers" in blogs trying to steer opinion has
become better known. One of Kane's sidekicks
has been lobbying IN FAVOR of the breast implant
industry by attacking people who are against the
recertification of liquid Silicone breast implants.

The wierd part of Betty Wirsen doing this is that
her PHOTO is on the web and you can see that
she is clearly not obsessed with OBTAINING
breast implants for herself. MOTIVATIONS
and background are becoming more important
to check in internet discussions.

Take a look at Betty's photo and see if implants
wouldn't be like "tits on a boar"!

Is she lobbying for the implants for her
partner, for a paycheck, or what?

Since you last posted, Kane has presented
a more unified summary of himself in which he
explains his past connections with Child Protection
in two different capacities. He doesn't mention his
psychology background and Military DISINFORMATION
background of course.

Kane still seems totally perplexed by the fact
that a non-spanker by choice would be against
his desire to make spanking ILLEGAL!

Now he's trying to lump you in as a spanker
just because you won't support his Nazi like
interest in state control of family CHOICES.

Did you see Kane fall all over himself about the Cherrix case?

He seems to be a raging STATIST, exactly
why I suspect he is a socialist who pretends he
is a conservative.

I respect your CHOICE and Kane hates that!