WHY can't she rescind this agreement?

[Greegor]

Dan Sullivan wrote:
> Let us know what you find out, Greg.

Attorney Says Twins Shouldn't Return To Adoptive Parents

An attorney for a [natural] mother charged with kidnapping her
17-month-old twins said Saturday the children shouldn't be returned to
their adoptive parents until a custody battle over them is concluded.

Allison Lee Quets, 49, and the twins were found Friday night when
police in Ottawa, Canada, acted on a tip, the FBI said in a statement
early Saturday. The toddlers, Tyler Lee and Holly Ann Needham, were
unharmed. They were placed in the custody of Canadian Social Services.

"This tip was very specific to a residential location in the city of
Ottawa," FBI Special Agent Greg Baker told WRAL.

Quets could face federal charges of international parental kidnapping.

Her attorney, Jeff Schroeder, told a Canadian television statement
that Quets, in poor physical and mental state after tough pregnancy
and birth, consented to adoption but changed her mind within 12 hours.
She has fought the adoptive parents, Denise and Kevin Needham, for
custodial rights ever since.

"She's been fighting since day one," said Gail Quets, Allison's
sister. "She spent her entire savings -- $400,000 -- on the legal
process."

The case is currently before an appellate court in Florida, where
Allison Quets gave birth to the twins. Schroeder said the court
proceedings should play out before the Needhams are allowed to take
the toddlers back the United States.

The children lived in Apex with the Needhams, while Allison Quets had
a residence in Durham.

A custody agreement allowed Allison Quets to take the children for a
brief visit December 22-24, but authorities said she never returned
them. The FBI said an investigation indicated she crossed the Canadian
border with the twins December 23.

Officials with the FBI Victim Witness program were arranging for the
adoptive parents to travel to Canada to be with their children.

Denise and Kevin Needham told WRAL Saturday they are ecstatic and
relieved that Allison Quets and the children are safe.

[Dan Sullivan]

Let us know what you find out, Greg.

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> Dan Sullivan wrote:
> > Let us know what you find out, Greg.
>
> Attorney Says Twins Shouldn't Return To Adoptive Parents
>
> An attorney for a [natural] mother charged with kidnapping her
> 17-month-old twins said Saturday the children shouldn't be returned to
> their adoptive parents until a custody battle over them is concluded.
>
> Allison Lee Quets, 49, and the twins were found Friday night when
> police in Ottawa, Canada, acted on a tip, the FBI said in a statement
> early Saturday. The toddlers, Tyler Lee and Holly Ann Needham, were
> unharmed. They were placed in the custody of Canadian Social Services.
>
> "This tip was very specific to a residential location in the city of
> Ottawa," FBI Special Agent Greg Baker told WRAL.
>
> Quets could face federal charges of international parental kidnapping.
>
> Her attorney, Jeff Schroeder, told a Canadian television statement
> that Quets, in poor physical and mental state after tough pregnancy
> and birth, consented to adoption but changed her mind within 12 hours.
> She has fought the adoptive parents, Denise and Kevin Needham, for
> custodial rights ever since.
>
> "She's been fighting since day one," said Gail Quets, Allison's
> sister. "She spent her entire savings -- $400,000 -- on the legal
> process."
>
> The case is currently before an appellate court in Florida, where
> Allison Quets gave birth to the twins. Schroeder said the court
> proceedings should play out before the Needhams are allowed to take
> the toddlers back the United States.
>
> The children lived in Apex with the Needhams, while Allison Quets had
> a residence in Durham.
>
> A custody agreement allowed Allison Quets to take the children for a
> brief visit December 22-24, but authorities said she never returned
> them. The FBI said an investigation indicated she crossed the Canadian
> border with the twins December 23.
>
> Officials with the FBI Victim Witness program were arranging for the
> adoptive parents to travel to Canada to be with their children.
>
> Denise and Kevin Needham told WRAL Saturday they are ecstatic and
> relieved that Allison Quets and the children are safe.


Oh please. This is SOOOOO bogus. The birth mother had $400,000 dollars
for legal fees but could not hire help to assist her in caring for her
children as she went through being "in poor physical and mental state
after [a] tough pregnancy and birth?" R R R R R ...get real.

She could have hired round the clock 24/7 help.

Where was the sister during this tough pregnancy and birth to help her
through the poor physical and mental state, eh?

Give me a break, Greg.

Something else is going on here. Someone is lying and I've a hunch it's
not the adoptive couple in this case.

With that kind of money my bet is a "poor little rich girl," the to
late got it that she had screwed up.

12 hours indeed.

Crock. And you want to buy it and blame CPS, right?

What group are you posting to, Greg, tha tyou think this is on topic
for anyway?

Just entertaining yourself and diverting from what is true here...that
you vandalizing goons have been abusing families in this newsgroup for
years, leading them astray, attacking them at every turn, generally
make a puckering fool of yourselves?

I knew if I pushed you pimple-assed porno actors even a little bit
you'd choke and go over the edge and reveal just how ethically and
morally challenged you are.

Man, you are making one hell of a spectacle of yourselves, my boy.

So tell us, you waiting for Lisa to win that big money, or will you
marry her before, just to make sure she doesn't boot you once the money
is her's, eh?

I wonder why she never posts here?

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[Greegor]

Please explain why she was not immediately
allowed to rescind the agreement.

[Dan Sullivan]

Greegor wrote:
> Please explain why she was not immediately
> allowed to rescind the agreement.

Do your own research, Greg, and let us know.

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> Please explain why she was not immediately
> allowed to rescind the agreement.

I will explain it when you come up with some rational reason for
someone with $400,000 dollars to spend on legal fees for not hiring
help when they were stressed out by a difficult birth?

And explain how the sister is here to help her now, but not then.

Do you suppose this might just be about suing?

Seems that the inept and hapless twist, liars, and assorted frauds are
busy with that tool rather than doing for themselves.

Answer my quetions, I'll answer yours.

Nothing else will do.

Or do you not have any answers, Greg?

Kane

[Greegor]

Greegor wrote:
> Please explain why she was not immediately
> allowed to rescind the agreement.

Kane wrote
> I will explain it when you come up with some rational reason for
> someone with $400,000 dollars to spend on legal fees for not hiring
> help when they were stressed out by a difficult birth?

Maybe she didn't want to go from savings of 400K to 0 savings?
Maybe she worked hard for the 400K or maybe it ws the last
of an inheritance.

Is it so hard to understand why a person would be very
determined NOT to end up completely broke?

> And explain how the sister is here to help her now, but not then.

Did the sister show up WITH the 400K after the twins were born?

> Do you suppose this might just be about suing?
>
> Seems that the inept and hapless twist, liars, and assorted frauds are
> busy with that tool rather than doing for themselves.
>
> Answer my quetions, I'll answer yours.
>
> Nothing else will do.

Grey Poupon or nothing.

> Or do you not have any answers, Greg?

Mostly questions.

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> Greegor wrote:
>> Please explain why she was not immediately
>> allowed to rescind the agreement.
>
> Kane wrote
>> I will explain it when you come up with some rational reason for
>> someone with $400,000 dollars to spend on legal fees for not hiring
>> help when they were stressed out by a difficult birth?
>
> Maybe she didn't want to go from savings of 400K to 0 savings?

Do you have any idea how long it would take to pay the salary of three
people doing child care respite to use up 400k?

> Maybe she worked hard for the 400K or maybe it ws the last
> of an inheritance.

So? She wouldn't spend it to keep her twins, but will on trying to get
them back. Mmmmmhhhhmmmmmmm....sure, that's it.

> Is it so hard to understand why a person would be very
> determined NOT to end up completely broke?

You can't spend 400K dollars very fast on child care. Trust me. It's not
that expensive. Even a live in nanny wouldn't cost but a fraction of that.

Please explain your lack of logic in your answer?

Or is this why you no longer work in the family business?

>> And explain how the sister is here to help her now, but not then.
>
> Did the sister show up WITH the 400K after the twins were born?

I asked you to explain. That question, even stretching, has nothing to
do with my request of you.

Are you suggesting the sister could only help with the $400k?

How about just taking the kids off her hands for a few weeks or even
months? Family does such things often...without the state even being
aware of it.

>
>> Do you suppose this might just be about suing?
>>
>> Seems that the inept and hapless twist, liars, and assorted frauds are
>> busy with that tool rather than doing for themselves.
>>
>> Answer my quetions, I'll answer yours.
>>
>> Nothing else will do.
>
> Grey Poupon or nothing.

As I thought. Proving more each day you are a Aging Troll. Here to
disrupt and attack people that have come here either for help, or to
give it.
>
>> Or do you not have any answers, Greg?
>
> Mostly questions.

No, mostly dodges. Real questions are responded to when answered.

You ask. Get an answer, then smart ass or otherwise dodge.

You have not answered my questions or responded responsibly to my request.

You are obviously here to vandalize.

Just as Doan and aps, Greg at ascps. Both vandals.

No reasoned debate. No response even from posters that give them back
reasonable responses when asked.

You're just another criminal minded goon as far as I can see. Don't you
think so?

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[Greegor]

Kane wrote
> Just as Doan and aps, Greg at ascps. Both vandals.

Yes, All of your opponents conspire against you.

[Dan Sullivan]

Greegor wrote:
> Kane wrote
> > Just as Doan and aps, Greg at ascps. Both vandals.
>
> Yes, All of your opponents conspire against you.

Yeah, and everyone on the internet that disagrees with you, Greg, is
me!!!!

BWAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> Kane wrote
>> Just as Doan and aps, Greg at ascps. Both vandals.
>
> Yes, All of your opponents conspire against you.

I can't make that claim. Are you making it for me? Know something I don't?

I'm not paranoid, Greg. I have no way at all of knowing if you conspire.
It may be that I'm just so thoroughly irritating the same kind of nuts
that they respond in ways similar to each other.

Would surprise me, Greg. Not in the least.

On the other hand you have responded continuously as though people are
ganging upon you.

I see you going silent when a troll claims we are picking on you.

Why is that, Greg? Because you do indeed think you are being unfairly
targeted by a "gang?"

You and Doan do post as vandals. Doan has admitted to it. He won't
debate spanking issues with other than attack and dodge.

It's cute but it's not fact finding.

You use similar tactics.

You make wild claims, then when asked to support them you give yet again
more attacks, opinions, questions rather than answers, and other dodges.

You are dishonest, just as he is, and your best comeback is to claim the
other is dishonest...yet WE produce data and supporting information,
even from your own posts, and you...you produce nothing.

You are pitiful.

0:-\

[lostintranslation]

0:-> wrote:
> Greegor wrote:
> > Kane wrote
> >> Just as Doan and aps, Greg at ascps. Both vandals.
> >
> > Yes, All of your opponents conspire against you.
>
> I can't make that claim. Are you making it for me? Know something I don't?
>
> I'm not paranoid, Greg. I have no way at all of knowing if you conspire.
> It may be that I'm just so thoroughly irritating the same kind of nuts
> that they respond in ways similar to each other.
>
> Would surprise me, Greg. Not in the least.
>
> On the other hand you have responded continuously as though people are
> ganging upon you.
>
> I see you going silent when a troll claims we are picking on you.
>
> Why is that, Greg? Because you do indeed think you are being unfairly
> targeted by a "gang?"
>
> You and Doan do post as vandals. Doan has admitted to it. He won't
> debate spanking issues with other than attack and dodge.
>
> It's cute but it's not fact finding.
>
> You use similar tactics.
>
> You make wild claims, then when asked to support them you give yet again
> more attacks, opinions, questions rather than answers, and other dodges.
>
> You are dishonest, just as he is, and your best comeback is to claim the
> other is dishonest...yet WE produce data and supporting information,
> even from your own posts, and you...you produce nothing.
>
> You are pitiful.
>
> 0:-\


My best friend is a nanny. She has been for many years and I do think
she will continue to nanny until she is no longer capable of doing it.
The most she ever made was about 27 grand a year. She had her room at
the house where she worked and use of one of the vehicles. Plus all
her meals.

There is no reason whatsever that the mom of the twins could not pay
for some sort of care while she got on her feet if she had 400k to
spend on trying to get them back. I will say this in just about every
case....these babies know the adoptive parents as their mom and dad.
They are bonded to them as such. Apparently, there is no claims of
abuse or neglect so we can safely assumed they are well cared for. To
take those babies away from them would not be in the best interest of
the children. Look at all these cases in the past where kids that were
adopted into loving families get ripped away from them because someone
changed their mind. I understand the 6 month safeguard in adoptions
but to rip the kids away from a loving family is just wrong.

I am an adoptee. My mom use to tell me that for the short time we
lived in the states after my adoption, she feared running into my bio
mom and having my bio mom change her mind. Thankfully, that never
happened. I know it would have destroyed my family if it had. Having
a child or children ripped away from you post adoption is exactly like
your kids being removed by cps. At least with cps, you have a good
chance at getting your kids back. Post adoption, on the other hand,
the outcome is not always all that great for anyone.

[Greegor]

The only Nanny that I ever met was also a third in the married
couple's threesome. Very fruity bunch all around.

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> The only Nanny that I ever met was also a third in the married
> couple's threesome. Very fruity bunch all around.

Your envy is noted.

0:->

[anti-everything-bad]

Only fools and idiots and their brethern
post here. No one has a brain and it shows.

[anti-everything-bad]

I disagree with you all; none of you are
worth the air you breathe. Don't go away
mad, just go away. <g>

[anti-everything-bad]

"0:->" > wrote in
message
ups.com...
:
: Greegor wrote:
: > Please explain why she was not
immediately
: > allowed to rescind the agreement.
:
: I will explain it when you come up with
some rational reason for
: someone with $400,000 dollars to spend on
legal fees for not hiring
: help when they were stressed out by a
difficult birth?
:
: And explain how the sister is here to help
her now, but not then.
:
: Do you suppose this might just be about
suing?
:
: Seems that the inept and hapless twist,
liars, and assorted frauds are
: busy with that tool rather than doing for
themselves.
:
: Answer my quetions, I'll answer yours.
:
: Nothing else will do.
:
: Or do you not have any answers, Greg?
:
: Kane
:

[anti-everything-bad]

Ahh, the kurt, the kaner, the faux-author
with no wits and no redeeming qualities
still thinks it controls the group and even
the 'net, huh?
How loathsome such a useless person is,
and how lonely it must feel.

[anti-everything-bad]

The greg of gore still thinks it's human,
poor thing. The kaner continues to converse
with itself and kurt itself into a trail of
nothingness, followed closely by its own
halucinations of glory.

I wonder if its parents had any kids that
lived.