Eric on Dan Sullivan

[Greegor]

First I would like to say that I do not know this Eric person at all.
I find it interesting that he complains about Dan urging capitulation.

Dan posted this as a complaint about what a moderator did not delete.

So here it is in the PUBLIC newsgroups where it will NEVER go away
thanks to Dan Sullivan himself.

How smart is that?


Dan Sullivan wrote:
> Eric wrote to scarfyrre
>
>
> "scarfyrre,
> Your post was well thought out and I wish that I could agree
> wholeheartedly. Alas, I cannot. As long as people like DAN SULLIVAN
> continue to misconstrue a poster's intent in order support his own
> agenda, I believe that immediately confronting said poster is
> warranted. I am an angry father. I am angry because I watched the Palm
> Springs Police Department rip my infant daughter off her mothers
> breast. I am angry because I specifically informed CPS that my daughter
> required physician prescribed medication. I am angry because CPS MADE A
> CONCIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE THAT MEDICATION! I am angry because
> the result was an infection so severe that my daughter's eye swelled
> shut and has resulted in PERMANENT DAMAGE! I am angry because CPS has
> tried to hide their negligence from me. I AM ANGRY! The fact that we as
> Humans posses the ability to anger tells me that it is an emotion
> relevant to survival. I will not deny that anger. Period. CPS, and the
> Dan Sullivans of the world will tell you to get over your anger, do
> what they say, and you will (most likely) get your kids back. I say
> F**K YOU. There is a legal system that we are all taught exists in this
> country. That is why we are AMERICANS and why this system is so great.
> Because the system is so "fair", and allows for due proccess. Lo and
> Behold, this turns out not to be the case in family court. No Due
> Proccess whatsoever, you are guilty first and allowed no real recourse
> to defend yourself. My name is now listed on the CACI because,
> according to the official CPS report my daughter "may have been harmed"
> (WIC 300(a)). The Social Worker who laughed at me when I told him of my
> daughter's medical needs and told me to my face that anything that
> happened to my daughter while in foster care would be my fault? He is
> still on the job, stealing other peoples children while I type this. MY
> ANGER FUELS MY DESIRE TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!! I will call it as I see
> it. DAN SULLIVAN is a piece of s**t, CPS apologist. And I wouldn't
> listen to a word that exudes from his stinking pie hole. How did I come
> to this conclusion? Because he said something that I disagree with? NO!
> I am perfectly willing to hear adverse points of view and change my
> mind if the facts warrant it. So far, they haven't. Dan Sullivan is a
> danger to the very parents you allude to in your post. I found this
> site, I read thru it. I found Dan Sullivan's post to be more harm than
> good. Actually no good, just harm. His advocation of capitulation
> disgusts me and I have no real fear in admitting it. It is my God given
> duty to protect my child and I have done a DAMN Good job of doing it
> except for the 30 days that my daughter was held hostage while I was
> ordered to jump through inanely innappropriate hoops to satisfy what? I
> am now a good parent because I took a parenting class? MY CHILD IS
> PHYSICALLY DAMAGED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE DAN SULLIVAN. And I will not
> apologize for the hatred that I feel towards him and his ilk.
> "

[Dan Sullivan]

Greegor wrote:
> First I would like to say that I do not know this Eric person at all.
> I find it interesting that he complains about Dan urging capitulation.
>
> Dan posted this as a complaint about what a moderator did not delete.
>
> So here it is in the PUBLIC newsgroups where it will NEVER go away
> thanks to Dan Sullivan himself.
>
> How smart is that?

Simply proving my point, Greg.

Good dad shouldn't be in charge of a potato patch.

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> First I would like to say that I do not know this Eric person at all.
> I find it interesting that he complains about Dan urging capitulation.

I do too. I've never seen him do so in this newsgroup, and I'm not
totally up on fightCPS.

Can you post a quote from a Dan post that shows he does urge capitulation?
>
> Dan posted this as a complaint about what a moderator did not delete.
>
Yep. It's an attack by what appears to be a very overwrought
(justifiably so I would say) father that has fallen for the garbage you
folks tend to promulgate.

He's lucky he got the child back in 30 days. With Dan's help my bet it
would have been much sooner.

Now and then someone falls for the bull**** artists like you. It hurts
when I see that happen, Greg, because it didn't need to.

> So here it is in the PUBLIC newsgroups where it will NEVER go away
> thanks to Dan Sullivan himself.

You bet.

What does that suggest about Dan's honesty, and what does it say to the
claims by Tim, and Dan's challenge that he did NOT perform as a fightCPS
administrator is mandated to do.

>
> How smart is that?
>

Extremely?

YOU may be, because of your own moral weakness, and ethical dysfunction,
be unable to see someone acting out from their pain, but I can't miss
it, and neither will most people.

Dan is a great target for someone in pain. He does not attack PARENTS
generally, unless they are stupid like you.

Did he attack this man?

Dan has sent me a few folks to talk with that were coming from a similar
place, and ABOUT TO LOSE THEIR CHILDREN BECAUSE OF IT. They could not
settle down and work their case.

Later those folks thanked both Dan and I for our help.

With you I have little patience, Greg...because you are thoroughgoing
asshole with nothing but your own ****ty little self on your ****assed
little mind.

With parents in difficulty with CPS I have a great deal of patience, and
encourage them to rant at me if they must rant.

And then get back to the job at hand, getting their children back.

You are a menace to families, Greg.

I'm glad this man got his child back before he went off on Dan. And I'm
not the least bothered by it, or think it means much but that he missed
the point in how Dan lays out strategy and tactics that work.

And no, Dan doesn't urge anyone to capitulate.

But thanks for playing.

Kane



> Dan Sullivan wrote:
>> Eric wrote to scarfyrre
>>
>>
>> "scarfyrre,
>> Your post was well thought out and I wish that I could agree
>> wholeheartedly. Alas, I cannot. As long as people like DAN SULLIVAN
>> continue to misconstrue a poster's intent in order support his own
>> agenda, I believe that immediately confronting said poster is
>> warranted. I am an angry father. I am angry because I watched the Palm
>> Springs Police Department rip my infant daughter off her mothers
>> breast. I am angry because I specifically informed CPS that my daughter
>> required physician prescribed medication. I am angry because CPS MADE A
>> CONCIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE THAT MEDICATION! I am angry because
>> the result was an infection so severe that my daughter's eye swelled
>> shut and has resulted in PERMANENT DAMAGE! I am angry because CPS has
>> tried to hide their negligence from me. I AM ANGRY! The fact that we as
>> Humans posses the ability to anger tells me that it is an emotion
>> relevant to survival. I will not deny that anger. Period. CPS, and the
>> Dan Sullivans of the world will tell you to get over your anger, do
>> what they say, and you will (most likely) get your kids back. I say
>> F**K YOU. There is a legal system that we are all taught exists in this
>> country. That is why we are AMERICANS and why this system is so great.
>> Because the system is so "fair", and allows for due proccess. Lo and
>> Behold, this turns out not to be the case in family court. No Due
>> Proccess whatsoever, you are guilty first and allowed no real recourse
>> to defend yourself. My name is now listed on the CACI because,
>> according to the official CPS report my daughter "may have been harmed"
>> (WIC 300(a)). The Social Worker who laughed at me when I told him of my
>> daughter's medical needs and told me to my face that anything that
>> happened to my daughter while in foster care would be my fault? He is
>> still on the job, stealing other peoples children while I type this. MY
>> ANGER FUELS MY DESIRE TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!! I will call it as I see
>> it. DAN SULLIVAN is a piece of s**t, CPS apologist. And I wouldn't
>> listen to a word that exudes from his stinking pie hole. How did I come
>> to this conclusion? Because he said something that I disagree with? NO!
>> I am perfectly willing to hear adverse points of view and change my
>> mind if the facts warrant it. So far, they haven't. Dan Sullivan is a
>> danger to the very parents you allude to in your post. I found this
>> site, I read thru it. I found Dan Sullivan's post to be more harm than
>> good. Actually no good, just harm. His advocation of capitulation
>> disgusts me and I have no real fear in admitting it. It is my God given
>> duty to protect my child and I have done a DAMN Good job of doing it
>> except for the 30 days that my daughter was held hostage while I was
>> ordered to jump through inanely innappropriate hoops to satisfy what? I
>> am now a good parent because I took a parenting class? MY CHILD IS
>> PHYSICALLY DAMAGED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE DAN SULLIVAN. And I will not
>> apologize for the hatred that I feel towards him and his ilk.
>> "
>

[Greegor]

Hi Kane!

> > Dan Sullivan wrote:
> >> Eric wrote to scarfyrre
> >>
> >>
> >> "scarfyrre,
> >> Your post was well thought out and I wish that I could agree
> >> wholeheartedly. Alas, I cannot. As long as people like DAN SULLIVAN
> >> continue to misconstrue a poster's intent in order support his own
> >> agenda, I believe that immediately confronting said poster is
> >> warranted. I am an angry father. I am angry because I watched the Palm
> >> Springs Police Department rip my infant daughter off her mothers
> >> breast. I am angry because I specifically informed CPS that my daughter
> >> required physician prescribed medication. I am angry because CPS MADE A
> >> CONCIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE THAT MEDICATION! I am angry because
> >> the result was an infection so severe that my daughter's eye swelled
> >> shut and has resulted in PERMANENT DAMAGE! I am angry because CPS has
> >> tried to hide their negligence from me. I AM ANGRY! The fact that we as
> >> Humans posses the ability to anger tells me that it is an emotion
> >> relevant to survival. I will not deny that anger. Period. CPS, and the
> >> Dan Sullivans of the world will tell you to get over your anger, do
> >> what they say, and you will (most likely) get your kids back. I say
> >> F**K YOU. There is a legal system that we are all taught exists in this
> >> country. That is why we are AMERICANS and why this system is so great.
> >> Because the system is so "fair", and allows for due proccess. Lo and
> >> Behold, this turns out not to be the case in family court. No Due
> >> Proccess whatsoever, you are guilty first and allowed no real recourse
> >> to defend yourself. My name is now listed on the CACI because,
> >> according to the official CPS report my daughter "may have been harmed"
> >> (WIC 300(a)). The Social Worker who laughed at me when I told him of my
> >> daughter's medical needs and told me to my face that anything that
> >> happened to my daughter while in foster care would be my fault? He is
> >> still on the job, stealing other peoples children while I type this. MY
> >> ANGER FUELS MY DESIRE TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!! I will call it as I see
> >> it. DAN SULLIVAN is a piece of s**t, CPS apologist. And I wouldn't
> >> listen to a word that exudes from his stinking pie hole. How did I come
> >> to this conclusion? Because he said something that I disagree with? NO!
> >> I am perfectly willing to hear adverse points of view and change my
> >> mind if the facts warrant it. So far, they haven't. Dan Sullivan is a
> >> danger to the very parents you allude to in your post. I found this
> >> site, I read thru it. I found Dan Sullivan's post to be more harm than
> >> good. Actually no good, just harm. His advocation of capitulation
> >> disgusts me and I have no real fear in admitting it. It is my God given
> >> duty to protect my child and I have done a DAMN Good job of doing it
> >> except for the 30 days that my daughter was held hostage while I was
> >> ordered to jump through inanely innappropriate hoops to satisfy what? I
> >> am now a good parent because I took a parenting class? MY CHILD IS
> >> PHYSICALLY DAMAGED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE DAN SULLIVAN. And I will not
> >> apologize for the hatred that I feel towards him and his ilk.
> >> "
> >

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> Hi Kane!

How soon can we expect you to take this attributed post below and use it
to lie, Greg?




>
>>> Dan Sullivan wrote:
>>>> Eric wrote to scarfyrre
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "scarfyrre,
>>>> Your post was well thought out and I wish that I could agree
>>>> wholeheartedly. Alas, I cannot. As long as people like DAN SULLIVAN
>>>> continue to misconstrue a poster's intent in order support his own
>>>> agenda, I believe that immediately confronting said poster is
>>>> warranted. I am an angry father. I am angry because I watched the Palm
>>>> Springs Police Department rip my infant daughter off her mothers
>>>> breast. I am angry because I specifically informed CPS that my daughter
>>>> required physician prescribed medication. I am angry because CPS MADE A
>>>> CONCIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE THAT MEDICATION! I am angry because
>>>> the result was an infection so severe that my daughter's eye swelled
>>>> shut and has resulted in PERMANENT DAMAGE! I am angry because CPS has
>>>> tried to hide their negligence from me. I AM ANGRY! The fact that we as
>>>> Humans posses the ability to anger tells me that it is an emotion
>>>> relevant to survival. I will not deny that anger. Period. CPS, and the
>>>> Dan Sullivans of the world will tell you to get over your anger, do
>>>> what they say, and you will (most likely) get your kids back. I say
>>>> F**K YOU. There is a legal system that we are all taught exists in this
>>>> country. That is why we are AMERICANS and why this system is so great.
>>>> Because the system is so "fair", and allows for due proccess. Lo and
>>>> Behold, this turns out not to be the case in family court. No Due
>>>> Proccess whatsoever, you are guilty first and allowed no real recourse
>>>> to defend yourself. My name is now listed on the CACI because,
>>>> according to the official CPS report my daughter "may have been harmed"
>>>> (WIC 300(a)). The Social Worker who laughed at me when I told him of my
>>>> daughter's medical needs and told me to my face that anything that
>>>> happened to my daughter while in foster care would be my fault? He is
>>>> still on the job, stealing other peoples children while I type this. MY
>>>> ANGER FUELS MY DESIRE TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!! I will call it as I see
>>>> it. DAN SULLIVAN is a piece of s**t, CPS apologist. And I wouldn't
>>>> listen to a word that exudes from his stinking pie hole. How did I come
>>>> to this conclusion? Because he said something that I disagree with? NO!
>>>> I am perfectly willing to hear adverse points of view and change my
>>>> mind if the facts warrant it. So far, they haven't. Dan Sullivan is a
>>>> danger to the very parents you allude to in your post. I found this
>>>> site, I read thru it. I found Dan Sullivan's post to be more harm than
>>>> good. Actually no good, just harm. His advocation of capitulation
>>>> disgusts me and I have no real fear in admitting it. It is my God given
>>>> duty to protect my child and I have done a DAMN Good job of doing it
>>>> except for the 30 days that my daughter was held hostage while I was
>>>> ordered to jump through inanely innappropriate hoops to satisfy what? I
>>>> am now a good parent because I took a parenting class? MY CHILD IS
>>>> PHYSICALLY DAMAGED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE DAN SULLIVAN. And I will not
>>>> apologize for the hatred that I feel towards him and his ilk.
>>>> "
>

[Greegor]

Kane
> How soon can we expect to take this
> attributed post below and use it to lie, Greg?

As fast as you can type!


> >>> Dan Sullivan wrote:
> >>>> Eric wrote to scarfyrre
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> "scarfyrre,
> >>>> Your post was well thought out and I wish that I could agree
> >>>> wholeheartedly. Alas, I cannot. As long as people like DAN SULLIVAN
> >>>> continue to misconstrue a poster's intent in order support his own
> >>>> agenda, I believe that immediately confronting said poster is
> >>>> warranted. I am an angry father. I am angry because I watched the Palm
> >>>> Springs Police Department rip my infant daughter off her mothers
> >>>> breast. I am angry because I specifically informed CPS that my daughter
> >>>> required physician prescribed medication. I am angry because CPS MADE A
> >>>> CONCIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE THAT MEDICATION! I am angry because
> >>>> the result was an infection so severe that my daughter's eye swelled
> >>>> shut and has resulted in PERMANENT DAMAGE! I am angry because CPS has
> >>>> tried to hide their negligence from me. I AM ANGRY! The fact that we as
> >>>> Humans posses the ability to anger tells me that it is an emotion
> >>>> relevant to survival. I will not deny that anger. Period. CPS, and the
> >>>> Dan Sullivans of the world will tell you to get over your anger, do
> >>>> what they say, and you will (most likely) get your kids back. I say
> >>>> F**K YOU. There is a legal system that we are all taught exists in this
> >>>> country. That is why we are AMERICANS and why this system is so great.
> >>>> Because the system is so "fair", and allows for due proccess. Lo and
> >>>> Behold, this turns out not to be the case in family court. No Due
> >>>> Proccess whatsoever, you are guilty first and allowed no real recourse
> >>>> to defend yourself. My name is now listed on the CACI because,
> >>>> according to the official CPS report my daughter "may have been harmed"
> >>>> (WIC 300(a)). The Social Worker who laughed at me when I told him of my
> >>>> daughter's medical needs and told me to my face that anything that
> >>>> happened to my daughter while in foster care would be my fault? He is
> >>>> still on the job, stealing other peoples children while I type this. MY
> >>>> ANGER FUELS MY DESIRE TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!! I will call it as I see
> >>>> it. DAN SULLIVAN is a piece of s**t, CPS apologist. And I wouldn't
> >>>> listen to a word that exudes from his stinking pie hole. How did I come
> >>>> to this conclusion? Because he said something that I disagree with? NO!
> >>>> I am perfectly willing to hear adverse points of view and change my
> >>>> mind if the facts warrant it. So far, they haven't. Dan Sullivan is a
> >>>> danger to the very parents you allude to in your post. I found this
> >>>> site, I read thru it. I found Dan Sullivan's post to be more harm than
> >>>> good. Actually no good, just harm. His advocation of capitulation
> >>>> disgusts me and I have no real fear in admitting it. It is my God given
> >>>> duty to protect my child and I have done a DAMN Good job of doing it
> >>>> except for the 30 days that my daughter was held hostage while I was
> >>>> ordered to jump through inanely innappropriate hoops to satisfy what? I
> >>>> am now a good parent because I took a parenting class? MY CHILD IS
> >>>> PHYSICALLY DAMAGED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE DAN SULLIVAN. And I will not
> >>>> apologize for the hatred that I feel towards him and his ilk.
> >>>> "
> >

[0:->]

Greegor wrote:
> Kane

Actually wrote this, ...

"How soon can we expect you to take this attributed post below and use
it
to lie, Greg?"

Notice the word, "you?"

.... and Greg, proving again, what an ethics disfunctional liar he is,
removed a word and posted this.

> > How soon can we expect to take this
> > attributed post below and use it to lie, Greg?

With the "you" missing, of course.

So we have something of a miracle here.

Not only did he lie, he did it...

>
> As fast as you can type!
>
.... FASTER than I can type.

So, can we look forward to the same handling of this post of Dan's
below, where he presents an attack on him proving that Tim has
lied...since Tim didn't remove an obviously attacking post?

You already tried to make it something it isn't...proof that Dan
attacks parents.

In fact, as usual, you had your head so far up your ass you couldn't
see what this post really said, could you, Greg...and now you are
dodging again.

Shade of Doan, Greg, shades of Doan.

0;->

>
> > >>> Dan Sullivan wrote:
> > >>>> Eric wrote to scarfyrre
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> "scarfyrre,
> > >>>> Your post was well thought out and I wish that I could agree
> > >>>> wholeheartedly. Alas, I cannot. As long as people like DAN SULLIVAN
> > >>>> continue to misconstrue a poster's intent in order support his own
> > >>>> agenda, I believe that immediately confronting said poster is
> > >>>> warranted. I am an angry father. I am angry because I watched the Palm
> > >>>> Springs Police Department rip my infant daughter off her mothers
> > >>>> breast. I am angry because I specifically informed CPS that my daughter
> > >>>> required physician prescribed medication. I am angry because CPS MADE A
> > >>>> CONCIOUS DECISION NOT TO CONTINUE THAT MEDICATION! I am angry because
> > >>>> the result was an infection so severe that my daughter's eye swelled
> > >>>> shut and has resulted in PERMANENT DAMAGE! I am angry because CPS has
> > >>>> tried to hide their negligence from me. I AM ANGRY! The fact that we as
> > >>>> Humans posses the ability to anger tells me that it is an emotion
> > >>>> relevant to survival. I will not deny that anger. Period. CPS, and the
> > >>>> Dan Sullivans of the world will tell you to get over your anger, do
> > >>>> what they say, and you will (most likely) get your kids back. I say
> > >>>> F**K YOU. There is a legal system that we are all taught exists in this
> > >>>> country. That is why we are AMERICANS and why this system is so great.
> > >>>> Because the system is so "fair", and allows for due proccess. Lo and
> > >>>> Behold, this turns out not to be the case in family court. No Due
> > >>>> Proccess whatsoever, you are guilty first and allowed no real recourse
> > >>>> to defend yourself. My name is now listed on the CACI because,
> > >>>> according to the official CPS report my daughter "may have been harmed"
> > >>>> (WIC 300(a)). The Social Worker who laughed at me when I told him of my
> > >>>> daughter's medical needs and told me to my face that anything that
> > >>>> happened to my daughter while in foster care would be my fault? He is
> > >>>> still on the job, stealing other peoples children while I type this. MY
> > >>>> ANGER FUELS MY DESIRE TO STOP THIS MADNESS!!! I will call it as I see
> > >>>> it. DAN SULLIVAN is a piece of s**t, CPS apologist. And I wouldn't
> > >>>> listen to a word that exudes from his stinking pie hole. How did I come
> > >>>> to this conclusion? Because he said something that I disagree with? NO!
> > >>>> I am perfectly willing to hear adverse points of view and change my
> > >>>> mind if the facts warrant it. So far, they haven't. Dan Sullivan is a
> > >>>> danger to the very parents you allude to in your post. I found this
> > >>>> site, I read thru it. I found Dan Sullivan's post to be more harm than
> > >>>> good. Actually no good, just harm. His advocation of capitulation
> > >>>> disgusts me and I have no real fear in admitting it. It is my God given
> > >>>> duty to protect my child and I have done a DAMN Good job of doing it
> > >>>> except for the 30 days that my daughter was held hostage while I was
> > >>>> ordered to jump through inanely innappropriate hoops to satisfy what? I
> > >>>> am now a good parent because I took a parenting class? MY CHILD IS
> > >>>> PHYSICALLY DAMAGED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE DAN SULLIVAN. And I will not
> > >>>> apologize for the hatred that I feel towards him and his ilk.
> > >>>> "
> > >

[Dan Sullivan]

0:-> wrote:
> Greegor wrote:
> > Kane
>
> Actually wrote this, ...
>
> "How soon can we expect you to take this attributed post below and use
> it
> to lie, Greg?"
>
> Notice the word, "you?"
>
> ... and Greg, proving again, what an ethics disfunctional liar he is,
> removed a word and posted this.
>
> > > How soon can we expect to take this
> > > attributed post below and use it to lie, Greg?
>
> With the "you" missing, of course.
>
> So we have something of a miracle here.
>
> Not only did he lie, he did it...

This is, as I suspect, the same type of situation as Greg claiming that
he has proof that he doesn't have a sex abuse history (from an earlier
CPS investigation) when what the CW was referring to was the years of
inappropriate sexual behavior he showed to Lisa Watkins' little girl in
the latest investigation..

[Greegor]

Hyenas.

[Dan Sullivan]

Greegor wrote:
> Hyenas.

While failing to deny,

"This is, as I suspect, the same type of situation as Greg claiming
that
he has proof that he doesn't have a sex abuse history (from an earlier
CPS investigation) when what the CW was referring to was the years of
inappropriate sexual behavior he showed to Lisa Watkins' little girl in

the latest investigation."

How many years of inappropriate sexual behavior towards Lisa Watkins'
daughter by you was documented in the latest CPS/Family Court case?