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Katie Jaques
July 9th 03, 06:43 PM
Barbara was moved from the makeshift overflow ICU at Grossmont
Hospital (it's really their surgical recovery room) to a regular
hospital room after midnight last night. She is disconnected from all
the tubes, IVs, etc. and is able to be up and around. I came home
after she was settled in, about 1:30 a.m.

We aren't sure how much longer she will be in the hospital. I may
take my laptop computer in today and see if we can hook it up so that
she can get into the Internet and see all your good wishes.

Michael will take the kids up to see her this morning. She has a
breast pump to keep the pressure off and the supply going. I don't
know if there are any restrictions on her nursing due to any drugs
they are giving her, but if not, I'm sure Vernon will be right back at
it!

Grandma Katie
Mom to Barbara (Circe), Grandma to Julian,

Beth Kevles
July 9th 03, 07:48 PM
Hi -

I'm glad she's doing better! I hope she'll be seeing an allergist
PROMPTLY about her asthma. There's no excuse not to be on a regular
prevention plan.

--Beth Kevles

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Disclaimer: Nothing in this message should be construed as medical
advice. Please consult with your own medical practicioner.

Truffles
July 9th 03, 08:04 PM
Katie Jaques wrote:

> Barbara was moved from the makeshift overflow ICU at Grossmont
> Hospital (it's really their surgical recovery room) to a regular
> hospital room after midnight last night. She is disconnected from all
> the tubes, IVs, etc. and is able to be up and around. I came home
> after she was settled in, about 1:30 a.m.
>
> We aren't sure how much longer she will be in the hospital. I may
> take my laptop computer in today and see if we can hook it up so that
> she can get into the Internet and see all your good wishes.
>
> Michael will take the kids up to see her this morning. She has a
> breast pump to keep the pressure off and the supply going. I don't
> know if there are any restrictions on her nursing due to any drugs
> they are giving her, but if not, I'm sure Vernon will be right back at
> it!

Thank you for the updates. Please tell Barbara she has been in my
thoughts for a speedy and full recovery.

--
Brigitte aa #2145
edd #3 February 15, 2004
http://www.babiesonline.com/babies/j/joshuaandkaterina/

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~ Harriet Martineau

Astromum
July 9th 03, 08:29 PM
Katie Jaques wrote:
> Barbara was moved from the makeshift overflow ICU at Grossmont
> Hospital (it's really their surgical recovery room) to a regular
> hospital room after midnight last night. She is disconnected from all
> the tubes, IVs, etc. and is able to be up and around. I came home
> after she was settled in, about 1:30 a.m.
>
> We aren't sure how much longer she will be in the hospital. I may
> take my laptop computer in today and see if we can hook it up so that
> she can get into the Internet and see all your good wishes.
>
> Michael will take the kids up to see her this morning. She has a
> breast pump to keep the pressure off and the supply going. I don't
> know if there are any restrictions on her nursing due to any drugs
> they are giving her, but if not, I'm sure Vernon will be right back at
> it!
>
> Grandma Katie
> Mom to Barbara (Circe), Grandma to Julian,

Yay! Can't wait to see her around again, even for a short while!
/doing more happy dances

--
-- Ilse
mom to Olaf (07/15/2002)
TTC #2
"What's the use of brains if you are a girl?"
Aletta Jacobs, first Dutch woman to receive a PhD

Naomi Pardue
July 9th 03, 09:02 PM
Wonderful to hear that she's making such a rapid recovery!
I've certainly been worried about her...


Naomi
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Iuil
July 9th 03, 09:37 PM
"Katie Jaques" > wrote in message
om...
> Barbara was moved from the makeshift overflow ICU at Grossmont
> Hospital (it's really their surgical recovery room) to a regular
> hospital room after midnight last night. She is disconnected from all
> the tubes, IVs, etc. and is able to be up and around. I came home
> after she was settled in, about 1:30 a.m.
>
> We aren't sure how much longer she will be in the hospital. I may
> take my laptop computer in today and see if we can hook it up so that
> she can get into the Internet and see all your good wishes.
>

Yay. Great news.

Jean

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Cathy Weeks
July 10th 03, 01:56 AM
(Katie Jaques) wrote in message >...

> Michael will take the kids up to see her this morning. She has a
> breast pump to keep the pressure off and the supply going. I don't
> know if there are any restrictions on her nursing due to any drugs
> they are giving her, but if not, I'm sure Vernon will be right back at
> it!
>

I'm so glad she's going to be OK! I just got back from vacation with
no usenet access to find this out!!! Barbara, when you get back onto
the net... I'm glad you're better! And you aren't allowed to let
anything happen to you! I need your voice of reason to help me think
through my crazier arguments! And of course your kiddos and family
need you even more!

Cathy Weeks
Mommy to Kivi Alexis 12/01 - http://www.bricktopia.com/kivi
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Sharon Bailey Glasco
July 10th 03, 02:07 PM
(Katie Jaques) wrote in message >...
> Barbara was moved from the makeshift overflow ICU at Grossmont
> Hospital (it's really their surgical recovery room) to a regular
> hospital room after midnight last night. She is disconnected from all
> the tubes, IVs, etc. and is able to be up and around. I came home
> after she was settled in, about 1:30 a.m.

Katie,

Thanks for all the updates on Barbara. I'm glad to hear that she is
doing better and is able to manage pumping, etc.

Barbara,

What a scare! I'm sure you will be happy to be out of the hospital
soon and at home with your family, where undoubtedly you will be more
comfortable.

Get Well Soon!

Sharon
Mom to James 6.2.00
EDD #2 5 December

chiam margalit
July 10th 03, 02:58 PM
(Beth Kevles) wrote in message >...
> Hi -
>
> I'm glad she's doing better! I hope she'll be seeing an allergist
> PROMPTLY about her asthma. There's no excuse not to be on a regular
> prevention plan.


Admittedly I'm quite sensitive on this topic because I suffer from
very bad asthma myself, but what makes you think that Barbara isn't
seeing an allergist and doesn't use preventive medications?

I know I do, and I still end up in the hospital every once in a while
because some trigger sets off my asthma to such an extent that even
with steriods and a rescue inhaler in every room of my home, I can't
guarantee perfect breathing.

Asthma is a very complicated disease, and every person has a different
reaction to the meds and to their triggers. Most severe asthmatics are
quite familiar with their prevantative plans, but that doesn't mean
they work. I use singulair daily, a steriod inhaler 2x/day, and I
still am not stable about 50% of the time, regardless of my
preventative measures. Even with prednisone, I have been hospitalized
for asthma. I see a pulminologist and an allergist all the time. I do
what's right for my case, but I still have severe asthma.

I guess what it boils down to is I read your post Beth, and I saw a
chide in there implying that Barbara isn't caring for her asthma
correctly according to your standards. I'm just trying to point out
that with severe asthma, you can do all the prevention in the world,
and still end up either in the hospital or dead. Asthma is a killer
disease. I don't think sending guilt along to someone in the hospital
is very fair.

Marjorie

toto
July 10th 03, 05:48 PM
On 10 Jul 2003 03:35:01 GMT, (Maryilee) wrote:

>>Hi -
>>
>>I'm glad she's doing better! I hope she'll be seeing an allergist
>>PROMPTLY about her asthma. There's no excuse not to be on a regular
>>prevention plan.
>>
>>--Beth Kevles
>> bethkevles@
>
>That's good advice. Also, there is a new asthma med that just received FDA
>approval. It's called Xolair
>
>http://www.pharma.us.novartis.com/newsroom/pressReleases/releaseDetail.jsp
>?PRID=863&checked=y
>
If you read the OP and the other posts, you will see that she has been
on medication since she was 2 1/2 years old.

She did have a prevention plan in place, I am sure.


--
Dorothy

There is no sound, no cry in all the world
that can be heard unless someone listens ..
Outer Limits

P. G. Chavez
July 10th 03, 08:26 PM
toto wrote and I snipped:
>
> >>I'm glad she's doing better! I hope she'll be seeing an allergist
> >>PROMPTLY about her asthma. There's no excuse not to be on a regular
> >>prevention plan.
> >>
> >>--Beth Kevles
> >> bethkevles@
> >
> If you read the OP and the other posts, you will see that she has been
> on medication since she was 2 1/2 years old.
>
> She did have a prevention plan in place, I am sure.

chiam margalit wrote and I snipped:
>
> what makes you think that Barbara isn't
> seeing an allergist and doesn't use preventive medications?
>
> I guess what it boils down to is I read your post Beth, and I saw a
> chide in there implying that Barbara isn't caring for her asthma
> correctly according to your standards. I'm just trying to point out
> that with severe asthma, you can do all the prevention in the world,
> and still end up either in the hospital or dead. Asthma is a killer
> disease. I don't think sending guilt along to someone in the hospital
> is very fair.

To Dorothy and Marjorie:

Beth didn't make any wild assumptions above. Barbara's mother, Katie,
posted:

"When she recovers from this episode I hope we can find a specialist who
will put her on a
maintenance protocol that will prevent future events. She has just been
treating it symptomatically, and obviously that is not working now."

Now, is there something about asthma prevention and maintenance that I'm
not understanding?

BTW, I love Barbara, and I'm SO glad that she's going to be okay. I
hope she will do what she can to prevent another episode like this.
(And, IIRC, I hope Naomi has investigated a preventive plan for her DD
as well.)

HTH,
-Patty, mom to Corinne [Mar-98] and Nathan [May-00]
and stepmom to Victoria [Apr-90]

Maryilee
July 11th 03, 03:26 AM
>
>On 10 Jul 2003 03:35:01 GMT, (Maryilee) wrote:
>
>>>Hi -
>>>
>>>I'm glad she's doing better! I hope she'll be seeing an allergist
>>>PROMPTLY about her asthma. There's no excuse not to be on a regular
>>>prevention plan.
>>>
>>>--Beth Kevles
>>> bethkevles@
>>
>>That's good advice. Also, there is a new asthma med that just received FDA
>>approval. It's called Xolair
>>
>>http://www.pharma.us.novartis.com/newsroom/pressReleases/releaseDetail.jsp
>>?PRID=863&checked=y
>>
>If you read the OP and the other posts, you will see that she has been
>on medication since she was 2 1/2 years old.
>
>She did have a prevention plan in place, I am sure.
>
>
>--
>Dorothy


Um...well in reading the OP, I noted that Barb was treating symptomatically.

As a respiratory therapist with 17 years experience and a former instructor of
an asthma education class, I thought I thought I'd pass along some info I
thought might be helpful. Xolair *just* became available this month so I
thought maybe it's something she could ask her pulmonologist about. It might
not be appropriate for her case, but it couldn't hurt to ask.

Anyway, I'm glad to see that Barb is doing much better.
Maryilee

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