Todd Gastaldo
June 5th 04, 06:54 PM
SITTING vs. SIDE-LYING See below.
"WE HAVE TODD..."
"Ilse Witch" > wrote:
"We have Todd, but even he's not too bad and won't harrass you personally.
And there's some occasional trolls, but we all ignore them and they go
away for lack of fun...Or maybe it's because the majority here are women...
;)"
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"Kazh" > wrote in message
...
"A pet ............ahhhhh how sweet !!...I've found usually woman can be
worse................but I put this ng down to the fact we ALL have the same
thing in common, so we aren't judging other people, we are all here for help
or to help."
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SITTING vs. SIDE-LYING...
According to Downe et al. [June 2004]
"[In]...nulliparous women using epidural analgesia...the lateral versus the
supported sitting position...Lateral position was associated with lower
rates of instrumental birth [33% vs. 52%]...episiotomy [45% vs.
64%]...RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PRACTICE:: the lateral position is likely to be
at best beneficial, and at the worst no less harmful than the sitting
position for most women and their babies..."
--Downe et al. ^^^ Midwifery. 2004 Jun;20(2):157-68. PubMed abstract
I WONDER: When Down et al.^^^ obtained informed consent to do this study,
did they inform women that "supported sitting" closes the birth canal up to
30%?
^^^Downe S, Gerrett D, Renfrew MJ. Research in Childbearing and Health
(ReaCH) Group, Midwifery Studies Research Unit, University of Central
Lancashire, Preston, Lancashire, UK.
Again quoting Kazh:
"we ALL have the same thing in common..."
PREGNANT WOMEN: Many of you will have the same thing in common - your OB or
CNMwife will close your birth canal up to 30%.
For simple instructions on how to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra"
up to 30%...
Side-lying works! There are MANY "alternative" delivery positions that
allow the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30%!
Beware though: Some OBs and midwives will let you "try" "alternative"
delivery positions but they will move you back to semisitting or dorsal
(close your birth canal!) as you push your baby out!
Yale CNMwifery Prof. Varney (just cited) writes regarding the baby's
shoulders getting stuck:
"In the event of...shoulder dystocia...the woman should be
in a lithotomy position..." (p. 839)
WATCH OUT! Lithotomy position keeps the birth canal closed! So does
semisitting!
Talk to your CNMwife or MD or MB about this TODAY.
For further details...
See See Criminal medical CAM at Hawai'i's John A Burns School of
Medicine
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2256
Kazh called me a "pet" - LOL! (At least I *think* she was referring to me.)
I am a working "pet"...
In 1993, the authors of Williams Obstetrics published the correct
biomechanics at my request but they left in their text (in the same
paragraph!) the "dorsal widens" bald lie that first called my attention to
their text.
The "dorsal widens" bald lie was created when Ohlsen informed the authors of
Williams Obstetrics in 1973 that they were still claiming that the pelvic
diameters *don't change* at delivery!
Before Ohlsen stimulated their "dorsal widens" bald lie, the
authors of Williams Obstetrics were ignoring Borell and Fernstrom's 1957
RADIOGRAPHIC demonstration that the diameters DO change - and this MANY
years after (way back in 1911) J. Whitridge Williams, MD - the first author
of Williams Obstetrics - clinically demonstrated 4cm of AP outlet diameter
change!
For details: See my Open Letter to FTC at:
http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/part2ftc.html
Allowing the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30% is not going to solve
all birth problems...
But regardless - why would a woman let an OB or CNMwife (or any other kind
of midwife) close her birth canal?
Thanks for reading.
Sincerely,
Todd
Dr. Gastaldo
"WE HAVE TODD..."
"Ilse Witch" > wrote:
"We have Todd, but even he's not too bad and won't harrass you personally.
And there's some occasional trolls, but we all ignore them and they go
away for lack of fun...Or maybe it's because the majority here are women...
;)"
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=pan.2004.06.03.13.50.26.916846%40yahoo .com&output=gplain
"Kazh" > wrote in message
...
"A pet ............ahhhhh how sweet !!...I've found usually woman can be
worse................but I put this ng down to the fact we ALL have the same
thing in common, so we aren't judging other people, we are all here for help
or to help."
http://groups.google.com/groups?selm=2i9925Fkkc4sU1%40uni-berlin.de&output=gplain
SITTING vs. SIDE-LYING...
According to Downe et al. [June 2004]
"[In]...nulliparous women using epidural analgesia...the lateral versus the
supported sitting position...Lateral position was associated with lower
rates of instrumental birth [33% vs. 52%]...episiotomy [45% vs.
64%]...RECOMMENDATIONS FOR PRACTICE:: the lateral position is likely to be
at best beneficial, and at the worst no less harmful than the sitting
position for most women and their babies..."
--Downe et al. ^^^ Midwifery. 2004 Jun;20(2):157-68. PubMed abstract
I WONDER: When Down et al.^^^ obtained informed consent to do this study,
did they inform women that "supported sitting" closes the birth canal up to
30%?
^^^Downe S, Gerrett D, Renfrew MJ. Research in Childbearing and Health
(ReaCH) Group, Midwifery Studies Research Unit, University of Central
Lancashire, Preston, Lancashire, UK.
Again quoting Kazh:
"we ALL have the same thing in common..."
PREGNANT WOMEN: Many of you will have the same thing in common - your OB or
CNMwife will close your birth canal up to 30%.
For simple instructions on how to allow your birth canal to OPEN the "extra"
up to 30%...
Side-lying works! There are MANY "alternative" delivery positions that
allow the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30%!
Beware though: Some OBs and midwives will let you "try" "alternative"
delivery positions but they will move you back to semisitting or dorsal
(close your birth canal!) as you push your baby out!
Yale CNMwifery Prof. Varney (just cited) writes regarding the baby's
shoulders getting stuck:
"In the event of...shoulder dystocia...the woman should be
in a lithotomy position..." (p. 839)
WATCH OUT! Lithotomy position keeps the birth canal closed! So does
semisitting!
Talk to your CNMwife or MD or MB about this TODAY.
For further details...
See See Criminal medical CAM at Hawai'i's John A Burns School of
Medicine
http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/chiro-list/message/2256
Kazh called me a "pet" - LOL! (At least I *think* she was referring to me.)
I am a working "pet"...
In 1993, the authors of Williams Obstetrics published the correct
biomechanics at my request but they left in their text (in the same
paragraph!) the "dorsal widens" bald lie that first called my attention to
their text.
The "dorsal widens" bald lie was created when Ohlsen informed the authors of
Williams Obstetrics in 1973 that they were still claiming that the pelvic
diameters *don't change* at delivery!
Before Ohlsen stimulated their "dorsal widens" bald lie, the
authors of Williams Obstetrics were ignoring Borell and Fernstrom's 1957
RADIOGRAPHIC demonstration that the diameters DO change - and this MANY
years after (way back in 1911) J. Whitridge Williams, MD - the first author
of Williams Obstetrics - clinically demonstrated 4cm of AP outlet diameter
change!
For details: See my Open Letter to FTC at:
http://home1.gte.net/gastaldo/part2ftc.html
Allowing the birth canal to open the "extra" up to 30% is not going to solve
all birth problems...
But regardless - why would a woman let an OB or CNMwife (or any other kind
of midwife) close her birth canal?
Thanks for reading.
Sincerely,
Todd
Dr. Gastaldo