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Chookie
July 20th 03, 09:26 AM
Shelby, from the description you gave I thought, either he has a stomach upset
or an allergy. Then you say that he has an allergy, and that at you have been
eating foods that you know he is allergic to. If the baby only been unwell
since you started using dairy products again, you know what the cause of the
problem is.

It doesn't sound like you consulted your baby's allergist about reintroducing
dairy products to your diet. Perhaps you need to talk to them.

And skip the laxatives. When there is something obviously the matter with
your baby's *entire* gastrointestinal tract, how could a laxative possibly be
helpful?

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Chookie -- Sydney, Australia
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"...children should continue to be breastfed... for up to two years of age
or beyond." -- Innocenti Declaration, Florence, 1 August 1990

Chotii
July 20th 03, 07:05 PM
"Shelby" > wrote in message
...
> You are probally right, which is too bad because I had hoped to
re-introduce
> dairy. However dairy normally makes him incredibly gassy and I haven't
> noticed that, so I am not sure that is what is bothering him though I will
> eliminate it again just to be on the safe side.
> Aden hasn't been diagnosed by an allergist - I eliminated dairy from
> suggestions from this group when he was first born. And I had recently
read
> a post from Beth suggesting to try dairy again at five months so I thought
> six months was a safe bet.
> Dairy couldn't explain the constipation though - he has been constipated
for
> about a month, well before I thought I would try to eat diary products
> again. So still any suggestion would be really helpful :)

There are alternatives to dairy products. There are almond-based and
soy-based "cheeses" which aren't too awful. There are dairy-free whiteners
and creamers for coffee. I understand loving dairy products and wanting to
have them, but I had a daughter a bit like your son (except that in her
case, dairy-based foods made her projectile vomit) and I learned how to eat
around the food I prefer.

As for the constipation, please refresh our minds on what this
'constipation' consists of? If it consists of hard poops, I mean physically
hard, and painful for baby to pass, that's one thing. If it consists of
simply not pooping every day, but when the bowel movements do happen they
are of normal consistency.....that's not constipation, that's within the
range of normal bowel movements for a BF baby. And that, if you'll pardon my
saying so, is *your* problem, not his, because you're perceiving normal as
abnormal, and medicating him for it, to make yourself feel better.

There's another possibility here with the spitting-up: maybe he has caught
some little virus? There might not even be a fever to go along with it. In
which case, it will go away within a few days no matter what you do.

But I, if I were in your shoes, would bite the bullet and go back to not
having dairy, for your son's sake. If it was the dairy, things should
improve in a couple of days, and stay that way. If it's a virus, it will
still get better. You might not know. But you *can* control for dairy,
whereas you can't control for minor illnesses.

--angela

Shelby
July 20th 03, 09:35 PM
His poops are very hard, and painful. He breaks into a cold sweat and
screams every time he tries to have one, and this has been going on for
almost a month now. I have tried no bananas or apples, no rice cereal and
instead given his some homemade oatmeat and prunes, and it hasn't seemed to
have helped.
"Chotii" > wrote in message
...
>
> "Shelby" > wrote in message
> ...
> > You are probally right, which is too bad because I had hoped to
> re-introduce
> > dairy. However dairy normally makes him incredibly gassy and I haven't
> > noticed that, so I am not sure that is what is bothering him though I
will
> > eliminate it again just to be on the safe side.
> > Aden hasn't been diagnosed by an allergist - I eliminated dairy from
> > suggestions from this group when he was first born. And I had recently
> read
> > a post from Beth suggesting to try dairy again at five months so I
thought
> > six months was a safe bet.
> > Dairy couldn't explain the constipation though - he has been constipated
> for
> > about a month, well before I thought I would try to eat diary products
> > again. So still any suggestion would be really helpful :)
>
> There are alternatives to dairy products. There are almond-based and
> soy-based "cheeses" which aren't too awful. There are dairy-free whiteners
> and creamers for coffee. I understand loving dairy products and wanting
to
> have them, but I had a daughter a bit like your son (except that in her
> case, dairy-based foods made her projectile vomit) and I learned how to
eat
> around the food I prefer.
>
> As for the constipation, please refresh our minds on what this
> 'constipation' consists of? If it consists of hard poops, I mean
physically
> hard, and painful for baby to pass, that's one thing. If it consists of
> simply not pooping every day, but when the bowel movements do happen they
> are of normal consistency.....that's not constipation, that's within the
> range of normal bowel movements for a BF baby. And that, if you'll pardon
my
> saying so, is *your* problem, not his, because you're perceiving normal as
> abnormal, and medicating him for it, to make yourself feel better.
>
> There's another possibility here with the spitting-up: maybe he has caught
> some little virus? There might not even be a fever to go along with it. In
> which case, it will go away within a few days no matter what you do.
>
> But I, if I were in your shoes, would bite the bullet and go back to not
> having dairy, for your son's sake. If it was the dairy, things should
> improve in a couple of days, and stay that way. If it's a virus, it will
> still get better. You might not know. But you *can* control for dairy,
> whereas you can't control for minor illnesses.
>
> --angela
>
>

Emily Roysdon
July 20th 03, 10:54 PM
Shelby wrote:
> His poops are very hard, and painful. He breaks into a cold sweat and
> screams every time he tries to have one, and this has been going on for
> almost a month now. I have tried no bananas or apples, no rice cereal and
> instead given his some homemade oatmeat and prunes, and it hasn't seemed to
> have helped.

Have you tried stopping the solids altogether? My daughter thought she
wanted solids, but her body was saying otherwise, and I had to back off
and wait a bit longer.

Emily

Emily Roysdon
July 21st 03, 01:18 AM
Shelby wrote:
> Actually I have been, and I have never seen a more fussy baby. Today I
> gave in around noon and fed him some advocado and he was much less fussy
> though still not his normal happy self. Did your daughter seem to be hungry
> and cranky for a few days and then fine again on just breast milk?

I know she wasn't thrilled at first, but I'm sure I started giving her
rice cakes to gnaw on, rather than the other foods we had been giving
her. My take on it was that if her body was truly ready for the foods,
it wouldn't have been causing her pain; it seemed inappropriate to me to
feed her one food and then feed her another food to make up for the
damage the first food was causing her. I'm probably alone in that
belief though...

Some people I know started solids when they felt their milk wasn't
enough, and when they had to back off, it took a few days for their
supply to rebound; that could explain fussiness when holding back on
solids. I do know that there were several times with my kids where I
was sure some food was bothering them, or something was up with my milk,
only to find out that they had a small tummy bug, or they were teething.
Non-verbal children can be such a mystery sometimes!


Emily