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Old October 9th 06, 04:31 PM posted to alt.mens-rights,alt.child-support,alt.support.divorce
Phil
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Default Things to think of before you get married again..


"Fred" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message
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Gini wrote:
"Fred" wrote
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What, I want to know, is so damned bad about suggesting that
people take responsibility?
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Not at all--In fact we agree. She had the responsibility to not
have sex when she was ovulating
and had the responsibility to know when she is ovulating and the
responsibility to tell him when
she was ovulating. Apparently, she failed to do so. What we seem
to have (systemically, in our society)
is a failure to compel women to accept responsibility for their
actions and decisions and we them condemn
men for not anticipating her lack of responsibility.
I don't think that it is an either/or situation. Both parties bear a
responsibility. What I object to are the representations to the
effect that one party is solely responsible to the exclusion of the
other. Think about it: some men use sanctimonious statements such as
"her body, her choice, her responsibility" to evade their own
responsibilities. I know this because those men conspicuously evade
my statement, "his semen, his choice, his responsibility."

What I'm trying to discuss is taking responsibility.


Good luck, Fred - when I tried to point out that men were responsible
for using their own birth control methods rather than putting that
responsibility on women, it didn't get anywhere, either.


It's all about money anyway. They want all the fun, they just don't
want to have to pay for the consequences. Once the semen hits the egg,
they're all too willing to let the woman take all the responsibility,
be it moral, legal, or financial. And then we've got this looneytunes
who claims that these guys aren't letting women take responsibility.
Heck, these guys want women to take *all* the responsibility, which
will leave them more money to buy that new truck/ATV/bass boat, and
moral accountability be damned.

Pathetic.


You could not BE more wrong. Are you lying or just that prejudiced?
Phil #3