"Fred" wrote in message
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Bob Whiteside wrote:
"Fred" wrote in message
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Tripped over it again, did you?

Phil wrote:

You also raise another interesting problem: what if the mother
doesn't tell him about the pregnancy, does he STILL have
responsibilities and what are they?
It's still his semen, right? I mean, just because he doesn't know
that
he did something doesn't mean that he didn't do it. So yeah, he still
has a degree of moral accountability, and if the child is alive, he
definitely has legal accountability.
How so?
Because it's his semen.

"His semen, his choice, his responsibility."

What about the moral responsibility she should have to at least
inform him of the pregnancy?
You keep trying that sleazy trick, but it's not gonna work.

That she has such a moral responsibility does not serve to negate any
responsibility that he has.

What I'm asking you to do is to accept the responsibilities that *you*
have, and you respond by resisting that with every fiber of your being.

Disgusting.

Your little feminist biology lesson is based on wishful thinking and not
established biological information.

It's not his semen? Whose semen is it, hers? You're gonna tell us that
she impregnated herself? Or are you going for immaculate conception?

All of those questions are irrelevant. Despite your claims of being so
knowledgable about biology, not one woman has ever gotten pregnant from
semen. In fact, men who have had a vasectomy produce just as much semen as
men who have not.


How hard is it to understand eggs are a scarcer resource than sperm?

And how, exactly, does that negate the biological fact that it's his
semen, and that without his semen there's no pregnancy?

See above. It's not the semen - It's the presence of viable sperm that
cause pregnancies.


What y'all are all about is negating the male's responsibility by
pointing to the female's responsibility. Well, last time I read a
biology book, it took two to procreate, which makes both of them
responsible for the outcome.

That's a value judgment on your part that has nothing to do what me or other
men think.


To say men are responsible for women's bad choices in sperm is to
transfer
the biological misjudgments made by women to men.

So don't say that. I haven't, and you shouldn't, either.

I'll say whatever I want to say. Feminists can't accept their biological
destiny so they try to blame men for their poor choices in sperm providers.
If it were the other way around, women would pay men for getting them
pregnant to thank them for contributing their sperm.


The femwits who can't
accept their biological destiny want to have the state step in with
remedies
to cover up their biological mistakes. The state's solution is to use
men's
money to cover-up the lack of responsibility by women who don't select
good
mates.

And as always with y'all shirkers, it's all about the money.

At least you are honest enough to admit it, I'll give you that.

Problem is, the facts don't support your desired conclusions, so you're
forced to resort to falsehoods, spin, and assorted trickery.

Just making an accusation does not prove it is true. How about some
specifics?

But you
can't get past the essential facts:

"His semen, his choice, his responsibility."

"Her body, her choice, her responsibility."

"For every choice, a consequence."

So how about detailing what you believe are a woman's responsibilities since
you don't like my perspective?