"Fred" wrote in message
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Bob Whiteside wrote:

So if she's not gonna give the father a chance, and if she's not gonna
give adoption a chance, then absent a "safe haven" law there's no
chance
at all for the child; it's gonna end up in the dumpster. Is that what
you want? I don't.

And you won't answer my question, either. Once again, you studiously
avoid answering the tough ones.

That's intellectually dishonest, Bob.

I never typed that. You are mixing up the posters.


I am rapidly getting the impression that, given the choice between
having a "safe harbor" law that saves the life of a child while letting
the irresponsible mother walk away unpunished, and not having a "safe
harbor" law and seeing the child die in a dumpster so that the
irresponsible mother can be punished, you'd prefer to see the child die
in a dumpster. What say you? About THOSE CHOICES, Bob. No dad; she's
not
gonna do that. No adoption; she's not gonna do that. She's
irresponsible, remember? You have two choices: save the child, or see
it
die in a dumpster.

What say you?


I say you are on the wrong side of this issue, even for a feminist, and
here
is why.

Have you ever looked at the dictionary definition of "feminism"? I was
astounded to find that it means ": the theory of the political,
economic, and social equality of the sexes". That makes a feminist an
advocate of the theory of the political, economic, and social equality
of the sexes.

And that definition makes a feminist a Marxist/Socialist. Feminism, and
your definition, are based on class warfare principles applied to gender
differences. Your dictionary definition proves my point. Feminists hate
Capitalism because it allows for inequality to occur as part of the natural
order of human behavior.


So, I wondered, if you are not a feminist, which I am sure you would
agree is an accurate characterization, then what are you? That led me to
the following:

"masculinist : an advocate of male superiority or dominance".

So let's see, feminists are for equality of the sexes, masculinists are
for male dominance.

That explains a lot ... (8-)

While you have your dictionary out look up "straw man". This one was a
classic. Set up a different argument. Then attack it. Then claim you won
the argument.


These laws don't work. Statistically only a couple of babies per year
are
dropped off at safe havens, but dozens are abandoned and left to die by
their birth mothers.

And what is your problem with saving a couple of newborn children from
ending up dead in a dumpster? Get in the way of the masculinist point
of view, maybe?

But let's return to yet another question that you have studiously
avoided answering:

You have two choices: save the child, or see it die in a dumpster. Which
do you choose?

Let's have an honest answer this time.

Save the baby. BUT I am against putting up billboards all along the
Interstate Highway System to alert pregnant girls they can avoid parental
responsibility by dropping off unwanted babies. My point is still the
same - These laws don't work because a teen trying to hide a pregnancy with
also hide a child birth. Get it yet?