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Old November 4th 03, 10:07 PM
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Default The Determination of Child Custody in the USA


"Bob Whiteside" wrote in message
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"Fighting for kids" adf wrote in message
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Joan B. Kelly, Ph. D.


Do you read any of this stuff you post? This source contradicts several

of
the positions you have taken in the past.


For instance you have stated women get custody because they are recognized
as the primary caregivers. This article says states have changed their
custody laws and replaced the primary caregiver custody standard with the
best interest of the child custody standard.


It states that SOME states are changing their custody law and replacing the
primary caregiver standard. It also states that many states are still using
the PC standard but are begining to recognize that MEN can be the PC also.

You have stated fathers don't want to care for their children. This

article
says pressure from men's groups have caused changes in custody decisions

and
men are still concerned the best interest of the child custody standard,

as
applied by judges, is nothing more than a disguised version of the old
primary caregiver standard.


I didnt state that ALL fathers dont want to care fo their children.

It also makes the following statement about your groups:

"The current practice by advocates for small,
special interest groups for influencing legislation is to selectively use a
certain research finding to bolster a political, or gender-linked point of
view, while ignoring other data. Such practices make it very difficult for
legislators or judges to achieve a balanced, informed view."


You have stated a father's primary role is to pay CS. This article says
fathers play a significant caretaking role within the intact family and
fathers should have an expanded role in the children's lives after

divorce.

I NEVER said this. I said that the NCP should pay support. If you are
referring to the comments made about the stupid unilateral theory, well of
course I would say MEN. Especially when people say things like "women force
men to pay" or "women have unilaterial decisions". What else would anyone
respond with if they didnt agree?? I responded with MEN should be financial
responsible for their children. How is that saying its their "primary role
to pay CS???"


You have stated children are much better off with their mothers. This
article says children feel a sense of sadness over the lose of frequent
contact with their fathers.


Again ive NEVER said this either, I have said that children should have a
"homebase" and have also said that BOTH parents should have access to their
children. I said that the primary caregiver in most cases is the mother,
which is the truth. Ive said that their are good and bad PC's, good and bad
NCP's.

You have stated fathers run away and ignore their children. This article
says 25% of children of divorce see their father at least once a week, and
only 10% haven't seen their father in the past year.


Ive never said ALL FATHERS.. Ive always said SOME. SOME = 10%. Ive made
statements about SOME fathers not providing support for their children on
consistant basis ..


You have stated judges make appropriate custody decisions based on the

facts
at the time the parents separate. This article says judicial education is
needed to enable judges to understand the developmentally-sensitive

visiting
and custody plans for children of different ages and to adjust custody and
visitation plans based on the children's ages.


Ive said over and over and over and over and over that this system is
screwed up. This article doesnt "favor" anyones views. Its an overview of
what has happened with custody in the US. Starting with men thinking women
and children were property to the changing views and trends of today. Thats
it, nothing more.