On Sat, 29 May 2004 00:53:38 GMT, "R. Steve Walz" wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:

On Fri, 28 May 2004 01:13:04 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:

On Wed, 26 May 2004 15:59:19 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

But it would be wrong. And even "disrespect" does not successful
convey the utter contempt that they (and I) feel for racists like you.

You have to earn respect
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Nope, everyone deserves it gratis. If it's not given by someone,
then the reasons WHY exist and MUST BE EXAMINED! And blacks find
NOTHING *WORTH* respecting in this country!!

Well, at the risk of sounding trite, they can always go back to you know
where.
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You mean where they were kidnapped? THAT crime gives them MORE claim
to this country than WE have!

No Mr Walz, where they were sold by their brethern. This is fairly well
documented, including a fairly recent acknowledgement by a country in Africa
that admitted the same.

While "that crime" may or may not give them more claim to the own country of
origin,, but not the one to which they ended up in, nor have you presented
evidence they were ever kidnapped by any within this country (USA).

But I wouldn't advise it. The blacks in Africa live terrible
lives.
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By no means all of them.

For those interested, they are free, like any Americans to go to the origin of
their ancestry should they desire.

It's important that you respect yourself, and you will not do that
sitting on the curb all day saying "muhfugger" and "racist".
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Actually, if you perceive that the degradation of your life and
livelihood is caused by mother****ing racists, then yes, it can
indeed restore much of your inculcuated depression produced by
racists who have systematically degraded you. If you believe that
you have been assaulted, instead of just believing what your
assailants told you abiout yourself, then yes, it can indeed
improved your self-esteem, and quite properly so!!

When one is sitting in the perceived mud puddle of self-pity Mr Walz, one may
get up and clean yourself off, or continue to splash in the mud puddle.

You have
to get off your ass and really strive to improve yourself.
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There is no such thing as "Free Will". People do what they believe
they must do, which is mostly what they have been told they must
do. If you want someone to stop cussing you, you'd better stop
treating them in a manner that any behaviorist can tell you will
make them do that!!

I've previously addressed this issue Mr Walz.

and it's not done by poor language, making poor
grades, incorrect behavior, and the crimes that blacks commit, etc.
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They must be given what has to replace their business, the way they
survive, which may seem like crime. AND THEY MUST BE GIVEN IT BEFORE
BEING EXPECTED TO RELINQUISH THE OTHER!!! People have to EAT!! Most
dope dealers SUPPORT THEIR FAMILIES!! Disrespect for people who want
their family to go hungry is NATURAL!!

Not anyone wants your family to go hungry.
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Don't pretend a polite lie!!
The rich would much rather go on six to eight vacations a year than
for their renters to eat properly and have a decent life. They try
to justify this by claiming that everyone decides their own fate,
when that is a ridiculous lie!

Now you are a spokesperson for "the rich"? It appears you wish to blame others
in another form of "splashing in water" in your perceived "mud puddle" Mr Walz.

Like Bill Cosby says, it
would be great if you would help yourself to be better by speaking
correctly and not stealing and killing so much.
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Like Bill Cosby LIEs, you mean. If he actually believes such things
after all the education he is supposed to have had, then he was a
really ****ty student who didn't pay much attention, and if he does
not then he is a damned liar fueled by political prejudice, ambition,
and the criminal urge to justify his own wealth in a cowardly manner.

So IYO of course, Mr Cosby lies, not because he believes what he says, but
beaciuse he was a "really ****ty student who didn't pay much attention"?

ANYONE who EVER took a couple decent philosophy courses KNOWS that
Determinism is the most legitimate view of causation, no matter how
much it seems to violate the preferred popularized American Myth of
Self-Determination that is merely promoted by the wealthy as an effort
to shame the poor for their own fate so they won't gang up on them and
kill them all!

There are many theories in various areas of philosophy Mr Walz. For those you
claim to "KNOW" it's meanings, they would no longer be therories, but facts.

And ANYONE who has had a chemistry class or a science class knows
that the universe runs on cause and effect, and that what happens
inside your skull is every bit as determined by physical laws and
physics as any other experimental milieu in science, and that brain
chemistry is NOT ruled by our notions in some fanciful image of over-
riding "self-control", but rather instead the determinate chemistry
PRODUCES those notions and motivations.

Hmmm. What effect Mr Waltz, does the cited "ozone depletion", have on the
"chemistry" of the mind and subsequent thought processes? Feel free to provide
such evidence Mr Walz, not another theory.

OTOH, if what you claim were true Mr Walz, then this would also conflict with
those that claim humans evolved from "less-civilized" beings. How does one
"evolve" to a "higher level", while your claim that a person's "notions and
motivations" that are "inside your skull is every bit as determined by physical
laws and physics"?

Cosby is supposed a Ph Ed, which means he has supposedly had a LOT
of philosophy and sociology, so either he was a ****ty student, or
he is a liar!

Or you could be wrong on any and all of which you write.