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Old June 23rd 09, 11:32 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.politics.economics,alt.politics.usa.constitution
Peter Franks
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Default Independance from Freedom Day, July 4th

wrote:
On Sun, 21 Jun 2009 13:47:50 -0700, Peter Franks
wrote:

We don't live in a capitalist economy. What we live in is a
socialist/communist economy that attempts to masquerade as capitalism.


Nice try, FrankenLoon

But tossing out the "commie/socialist" canard just
draws laughter at you


Laugh all you want. The facts are on my side, those laughing are on
your side -- the side without the facts.

Private property is 95% assured in America


No one said it isn't. What about that 5% -- who or what authorized the
socialism/communism of that? I sure can't find it anywhere in our
Constitution.

But thanks for bringing that up. Even at 5% socialism/communism, we can
see it wrecking our economy, our lifestyle, our everything. Excise the
cancer now before it grows beyond your 5%.

Free enterprise (within rational regulations) is alive
and well. You simply cannot do things just because you
want to----to the detriment of others or society


No one is advocating that except you.

Free enterprise is alive, but not well.

Any time there is a problem, 'capitalism' is to blame, even though it
had nothing to do with it. The solution? More socialism/communism.


Surely, you haven't gone off the deep end and actually
believe that ***, FrankeLoon?


I've provided substantive references to support that claim. You have
countered with -- wait -- nothing...

The problem with capitalism is PEOPLE who engage in
it---and the NEED for regulations to control excesses
of money and power in the society that allows it.
Nothing wrong with engaging in free enterprise---but
those with the ability and drive to do so---have a
marked tendency to excess and use of their power and
money to take advantage of others. That includes
shoddy, or dangerous products, creating health hazards,
ruining enviornment or air, water etc


Appropriate regulation is fine for the purposes of protecting and
securing the rights of others.

Regulation is not appropriate for the redistribution of wealth. The
current economic condition is due to that very type of regulation.

The reason we have rules, regulations and policy that
restricts capitalistic endeavors is to allow those who
work within the rules and protect the rest of us.


No, the reason is to protect the rights of others.

Credit is killing the economy and it will kill again.


But that's a CONSERVATIVE goal, you dumb twit.


Label it whatever you want, I really don't care. The advice is sound.

THE BEST INDIVIDUAL ADVICE that can be given is *get out of debt, NOW!*


Then stop supporting conservatives, republicans


Who said I was. Are you capable of a discussion without injecting your
made up garbage? If so, then do it.

Republicans/conservatives are the party of choice of
capitalists.


Fantastic. I really don't care if that statement is true or false. I
advocate responsibility in action and deed in the preservation of
freedom. If you want to get hung up on your badges of honor and party
politics, find someone else that enjoys time wasting exercises in futility.