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Old August 15th 04, 10:57 PM
Briar Rabbit
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nooneimportant wrote:

"Briar Rabbit" wrote in message




Now why would this be? You skin freaks have been trying to sell a crock
that women prefer a foreskinned man. What drives you skin freaks to be
such shocking liars?



There you go again, throwing a blanket accusation, you really are good at
that you know, been lurking for a long time and thats all i see you do with
any skill. I am quite sure that there are women that prefer cut men, and
understandably so in a society that is mainly cut, cus its what they are
used to. Go to europe, and ask the same question to women who have largely
known intact men...... Even here in the States there are women that prefer
an intact penis, but many have NEVER EVEN HAD THE CHANCE TO TRY ONE cus they
have been systemically removed from our culture, i know that simple
statement hurts because it goes against your blanket accusation. GIVE MEN
A CHOICE, GIVE WOMEN MORE OPTIONS.




Well the poor dears just don't have the option in these traditionally
non-circumcising countries. Is it demanded by you skin freakls that
expectant parents are sat down and given a balanced set of facts about
the pros and cons of circumcision and allowed to make an educated guess?
You don't because when it comes to the foreskin you have the very
strange view that foreskins must be saved come what may ... and are not
going to allow a few facts to get in the way of you grand obsession.

Here is an example of what can happen when men in a non traditionally
circumcising environment become informed about circumcision.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unasha...rc/message/347
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Male circumcision: an acceptable strategy for HIV prevention in Botswana.

Kebaabetswe P, Lockman S, Mogwe S, Mandevu R, Thior I, Essex M, Shapiro RL.

The Botswana-Harvard AIDS Institute Partnership, Private Bag BO 320,
Bontleng, Gaborone, Botswana. The Botswana Ministry of Health, Private
Bag 0038, Gaborone, Botswana. The Harvard School of Public Health,
Department of Immunology and Infectious Diseases, 651 Huntington Ave,
FXB 401, Boston, MA 02115, USA. The University of Botswana, Private Bag
UB 0022, Gaborone, Botswana.

Sex Transm Infect. 2003 Jun;79(3):214-219.

BACKGROUND: Male circumcision is known to reduce the risk of acquiring
HIV, but few studies have been performed to assess its acceptability
among either children or adults in sub-Saharan Africa.

METHODS: We conducted a cross sectional survey in nine geographically
representative locations in Botswana to determine the acceptability of
male circumcision in the country, as well as the preferred age and
setting for male circumcision. Interviews were conducted using
standardised questionnaires both before and after an informational
session outlining the risks and benefits of male circumcision.

RESULTS: Among 605 people surveyed, the median age was 29 years (range
18-74 years), 52% were male, and 15 ethnicities were represented.
Before the informational session, 408 (68%) responded that they would
definitely or probably circumcise a male child if circumcision was
offered free of charge in a hospital setting; this number increased to
542 (89%) after the informational session. Among 238 uncircumcised men,
145 (61%) stated that they would definitely or probably get circumcised
themselves if it were offered free of charge in a hospital setting; this
increased to 192 (81%) after the informational session. In a
multivariate analysis of all participants, people with children were
more likely to favour circumcision than people without children
(adjusted odds ratio 1.8, 95% CI 1.0 to 3.4). Most participants (55%)
felt that the ideal age for circumcision is before 6 years, and 90% of
participants felt that circumcision should be performed in the hospital
setting.


CONCLUSIONS: Male circumcision appears to be highly acceptable in
Botswana. The option for safe circumcision should be made available to
parents in Botswana for their male children. Circumcision might also be
an acceptable option for adults and adolescents, if its efficacy as an
HIV prevention strategy among sexually active people is supported by
clinical trials.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?N29212925