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Old November 30th 06, 02:03 PM posted to alt.child-support
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Of course half the marital assets should be yours--but
not more than half. And that happens far more often
than you might imagine. As long as you are careful to
take responsibility for every step you take (or agree
to take), and don't hide behind the "but my lawyer made
me do it" excuse, you should not find yourself falling
into that trap. Also, don't try to make him pay your
lawyer's bills, so you remain aware of how much it
costs to do the whole court thing. The burden is on
*you* to keep things fair.

Why isn't the burden on *BOTH* of them to keep things
fair?

You know doggone well why, Moon. Once the system starts
rolling, HE will simply be an ATM. She will be in the
driver's seat. How do you propose that he keep things
fair? Sign over every pay check to her, and live on what
she deigns to throw back to him?

I propose that *BOTH* adults act like adults, and try to
keep things fair.

Like I said, right above - "Why isn't the burden on *BOTH*
of them to keep things fair?"

And as I said right above, only she has the power to decide
to be fair. He will have to do as ordered by the court.
Which you know perfectly well.

Here, Teach - let's try this.

2 parents, both working. Only 1 is providing health
insurance. Who should be paying for the health insurance?
The person providing it, the person who earns more money, or
should they both try to be fair and split the cost?

2 parents, both working. 1 Parent has the children every
weekend. Should the child support reflect this?

2 parents, both working. 2 tax exemptions, 1 for each
child. Who should get the tax exemptions?

Let's see what your idea of fair is.


Ok, Moon, let's discuss fair.

snipping diatribe

Teach, I believe your starting premise is as screwed up as
your view of CP's.

Trying to keep things fair is NOT the responsibility of one,
and only one, person.

As long as you insist that it is, you've tossed any sense of
fairness right out the window.

When there are 2 people, it takes 2 to screw it up, and it
takes 2 to try to make things fair.

You mean you are partly responsible for being abandoned by your
ex?

I wasn't abandoned. Never made that claim, not once. Let's
see.......... oh yeah, I was there - I was the one who filed for
divorce.


You kicked him out?

No, I filed for divorce.


You admit some fault in the failed marriage *other* than just
being the one to file or was it just his actions or inactions
that resulted in divorce?

I couldn't be married to him anymore. I filed for divorce.

Phil #3


Perhaps, but I disagree with your overall statement.
No matter how wonderful things are, it only takes one to screw
it up and in today's world, it only takes one to make the
result unfair.
Phil #3

Complete and total sidestep.
Typical.
Don't you just hate it when your own words bite you in the ass?

What sidestep? You asked if I kicked him out, and I did not.

You asked about the reasons for my divorce (which is none of your
business), and I answered - I couldn't be married to him anymore.


Phil #3

Remember this:"You admit some fault in the failed marriage *other*
than just being the one to file or was it just his actions or
inactions that resulted in divorce?" ? You failed to answer that even
when the answer would not require you to divulge any 'secrets' about
your divorce.


Well, then we'll simply have to disagree - you offered a choice of (A)
You admit some fault in the failed marriage *other* than just being
the one to file or (B) or was it just his actions or inactions that
resulted in divorce?

It was neither. I simply couldn't be married to him anymore.


Since you either were or were not at least partially at fault, it has to
be one or the other; either you had some fault or not. It can't be both,
it can't be neither, your avoidance notwithstanding.



You made a claim that "it takes 2 to screw it up"; I, and others,
called you on it. Either you had some fault in your marriage failing
or you are wrong that "it takes 2 to screw it up". Personally, I
think everything you say carries a high probability of being
incorrect.


Ok, fine. It takes one to screw up. And since you know *neither* of
us, any claims that you make that I was the one are pretty worthless.


I made no claims, I asked a question that you failed to answer until now
when you finally appear to be claiming without saying so, that the
divorce is all his fault. This is possible, since as you say, I know
neither of you but the entire point is that your original statement was
wrong (as usual).


You now claim that the reasons for your divorce are none of my
business after a decade of posting them?


A decade? I haven't been in this newsgroup for a decade.... actually,
I haven't been divorced for a decade, either.


Perhaps it just seems I have been reading it that long.



You are becoming much like Marge; a bitter, old, lonely hag who
spends half her time complaining about getting what she demanded from
life, the other half blaming men for her self induced problems.


Oh? How odd - I see how I spend my time - and my time on here is a
very small portion of my waking hours.... all the rest are spent at my
job, and with my children, and doing a whole lot of other activities.


Yeah, a legend in your own mind. :P
--
"Make the lie big, make it simple, keep saying it, and eventually they
will believe it” ~ Adolph Hitler
Phil #3



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