Moon Shyne wrote:

"Werebat" wrote in message
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Moon Shyne wrote:

"Werebat" wrote in message
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I'd be fine with that if the wording didn't imply that the father is the
only parent who is financially responsible for the child, and/or if Mom
also had some document she were required to sign in order to get her name
on the birth certificate


Think about this one - there's no question who the mother is, because the
child came out of her body, in front of all those witnesses. Therefore,
there is no necessity for her to acknowledge maternity - it's quite
obvious she is the mother.

It's the came concept as in Judaism - if the mother is Jewish the child
is considered to be Jewish - because you always know who the mother is.

Oh, I just recognized the handle. That explains a lot.

Moon, you aren't paying attention. I'm not upset that Mom doesn't have to
claim maternity. Obviously that would be silly.

Go back and read again. It's the implications on the "voluntary"
affidavit of paternity that upset me -- the implications that Dad is the
ONLY one financially responsible for the child.


As Bob pointed out, the mother is ALREADY financially responsible for the
child. The flaw here seems to be your insistant perception.

I just asked my GF if she ever had to sign a document claming that she
agreed to be financially responsible for the child (without mention of
anyone else) in order to get her name on our son's birth certificate.
She told me that she did not. Do you get it yet?

That you can play ring-around-the-legal-rosie and formulate some
hypothesis of how she is financially responsible for our son is
irrelevant and untrue. We all know she could drop him off at the local
fire station and never have to pay one further red cent towards his
upkeep. And THAT is the law, in actuality.


I suppose that might seem paranoid to you -- and I would have thought so,
too, before I had my dealings with CSE and the Family Court System. Their
manner of dealing with fathers breeds paranoia. That's a consequence of
their attitudes and actions that we will ALL have to deal with until some
changes are made.


Then again, perhaps the paranoia is all yours. I've had dealings with CSE
and the Family court system as well - and watched while my ex ignored court
orders on any number of topics, without so much as a slap on the wrist -
he's stopped paying child support and never put in jail, nor even threatened
with it.

Moon, the list of my abuses at the hands of CSE is long enough to begin
looking unbelievable. I've never missed a payment, and yet I have been
jailed... Told that a judge would order 90% of the standard award for a
child I have exactly as many hours of the week that his mother does...
Threatened with severe punitive actions (loss of license, passport, and
license to teach) if I did not pay the state close to $500 in money that
I never owed and that to this day no one at CSE has ever been able to
explain how or why I owed... Had a $100 per month "obligation" to CSE
(in addition to the amount agreed on between my ex and myself, to be
paid directly to my ex) tacked on by CSE's lawyer to a judge's decree
that the judge never ordered... All of this and more.

But Moon, your previous discussions in this forum reveal your true
colors, and I realize going into this with you that you have made up
your mind and have no interest in changing it. Enjoy.


So........... all of this Chicken Little "the sky is falling" ain't
necessarily so.

If chicken little had had large chunks of the firmament plummeting down
to smack him in his head, he'd have had a case no matter who stood on
the sidelines and heckled him.

- Ron ^*^