deadbeat and enabler list (another thread that went off topic)

"Gini" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in message
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"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
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Gini wrote:
"whatamess" wrote
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Why exactly is it that women like Ileana feel that it's only the MAN's
responsibility
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that someone should pay you for it...Lousy excuse for women...very
sick.
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OK--My Rant of the Month....Have I had one yet this month? Can't
remember.
Oh well.
Women can blame the National Organization for Women for relegating them
to
pathetic
government/man dependent, entitlement-minded creatures, incapable of
standing on their own two
feet with pride and confidence in their abilities to survive on their
own
devices. NOW transformed
women's rights to equality to women's rights to preferential treatment
demanding that courts rescue
weak women from the throes of evil men. At the same time, they convinced
an
entire
generation (or two) of women that if they did not go after these men
(defined only by gender), they were somehow
stupid and short-changing their children. Of course, those who welcomed
this
attitude (weak, unmotivated
women), now would rather spend years digging and scratching for a few
pennies handout from men
and government, screaming with all their might that the men deserve to
be
chased down like animals--for some reason, and
need to be taught a lesson--for something. Dignity and self-reliance in
women became chastised and ridiculed as faults rather
than virtues. The most tragic outcome is the creation of an entire
generation of girls who are taught they are more
important and smarter than men and can do perfectly fine without the
"idiots" as long as they get to take his wallet
when they leave. This is called having your cake and eating it too, and
an
entire court system seemed quite happy
to pat them on the head and lament, "Poor girl." That is why women, such
as
those we have seen deluging ACS from "FamilyKB" with the whining mantra
of "Please help me! He's sooo bad and I need rescued," both nauseate
and
anger me just as all the advertisement/ marketing
portraying men as buffoons and morons worthy of nothing more than
financing
women. If you are curious as to how all this
media/court portraiture might affect a generation of young boys and men,
do
a web search of "looking-glass self," (which is usually
correctly cited as part of the "passive bigotry" [an oxymoron] that has
endangered generations of black men). Yeah, this ****es me off--I have
five
extraordinarily important sons, including my stepson. So, in
conclusion.....You can mess with Texas all you want, but leave my sons
alone
:-)
Anyone can rant, but not everyone speaks the truth. You have the ranting
correct, now try the truth.

Please point out what was not true in this post.
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LOL, I thought that would get their feathers ruffled.

Rejecting something oput of hand just because it riles you is a very closed
minded response. How can you stretch and grow if you don't take the time to
consider the merits of opposing opinions? Geesh!! smile

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
Why is the DBP crew in every group, discussion, topic, and thread
when
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would
you be mad if the shoe was on the other foot?

That is simply not true, Illiana. And, unless you have data to back up
what
you are saying, you should not post such things! Children go to their
mothers most of the time because "children and mothers" is the social
norm.
Moms are seen as the caretakers and dads as the providers, even if dad
provides the majority of the care.It's hard to overcome this type of
social
prejudgement. Although shared custody in cases of divorce is being
advocated
much more these days. In cases of out of wedlock children, children are
with their mothers because they are born to the mother, and the whole
proof-of-paternity-I want-to-be-in-my-child's-life thing takes
time--meanwhile, baby has been with mom the whole time, and status quo is
the reason used to keep custody with mom. It has nothing to do with
parenting skills, unless something really BIG is proved.

As for being punished, maybe your ex had a good reason.

Why would any person feel that they had the right to punish a man because
he
does not live up to their expectations? You cannot be saying that once a
woman has a child with a man, she is rightly in the position of judge and
jury on the subject of his life choices.
Tell that to the judge that gave the two children to the ex-HUSBAND.
Britney
Spears, also known as B.S lost custody of her son's to her ex-husband
because
he was able to prove she was un-fit as a mother. It is all over the
newspapers, everywhere, around the world.

Ok--there's one case. Let's see a few more. Do you think you can bring it
up to anywhere near 50/50 for mothers and fathers Or do you believe that
mothersare just naturally superior to fathers?

Proof of paternity takes 6 to 8 weeks, and I know this for a FACT. That is
not a lot of time, and if the child is an infant, it would be safe to
assume
the mother is breast feeding, so the infant does need to be with her.

chuckle Breast pumps are readily available these days. And the majority
of women do not breastfeed for very long--some not at all--so I don't think
it is safe to say that.

"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
Why is the DBP crew in every group, discussion, topic, and thread
when
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
would
you be mad if the shoe was on the other foot?

That is simply not true, Illiana. And, unless you have data to back up
what
you are saying, you should not post such things! Children go to their
mothers most of the time because "children and mothers" is the social
norm.
Moms are seen as the caretakers and dads as the providers, even if dad
provides the majority of the care.It's hard to overcome this type of
social
prejudgement. Although shared custody in cases of divorce is being
advocated
much more these days. In cases of out of wedlock children, children are
with their mothers because they are born to the mother, and the whole
proof-of-paternity-I want-to-be-in-my-child's-life thing takes
time--meanwhile, baby has been with mom the whole time, and status quo is
the reason used to keep custody with mom. It has nothing to do with
parenting skills, unless something really BIG is proved.

As for being punished, maybe your ex had a good reason.

Why would any person feel that they had the right to punish a man because
he
does not live up to their expectations? You cannot be saying that once a
woman has a child with a man, she is rightly in the position of judge and
jury on the subject of his life choices.

Do you deny that if the non-custodial parents were the custodial parents
they
would not be complaining, or asking for child support?

Why would I deny that? I have no idea. As I have stated before, I think
that 50/50 joint custody should be the default position--no more CP/NCP,
except in rare cases. Let both parents be parent and provider during their
50% of the time.

"teachrmama" wrote in

Why would I deny that? I have no idea. As I have stated before, I think
that 50/50 joint custody should be the default position--no more CP/NCP,
except in rare cases. Let both parents be parent and provider during
their 50% of the time.


Problem with that is the CP would have to have an income to pay for things
like her rent, car, utilities, Food , Cable, Internet and everything else
that people need whether kids are there or not!

"DB" wrote in message
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"teachrmama" wrote in

Why would I deny that? I have no idea. As I have stated before, I think
that 50/50 joint custody should be the default position--no more CP/NCP,
except in rare cases. Let both parents be parent and provider during
their 50% of the time.


Problem with that is the CP would have to have an income to pay for things
like her rent, car, utilities, Food , Cable, Internet and everything else
that people need whether kids are there or not!

If someone is not in the position to provide the basics for a child, perhaps
they should not be a parent to begin with.

Chris wrote:
"whatamess" wrote
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know you did it as a nasty statement toward my gender and nationality. Do not
deny it, or you will be a liar and a racist!

No he won't. The term "feminazi" is commonly used to refer to someone who
believes in a matriarch run Hitlery style. One's national heritage and
gender has NOTHING to do with it. So, now you can relax.
I am not a Nazi, and his comment was uncalled for and unacceptable.

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Shadow36 wrote:
"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in

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I guess you would be content, because it's not like your hand can tell on
you.

Once again you are Incorrect!!
http://wwwu.edu.uni-klu.ac.at/amikla...k/answer19.htm

Statistics show that only 2.9 percent of men have a penis length of 7.5
inches which you state while 23.9 percent of men are 6 inches In average.

You continue to propagate feminazi garbage.

Well say what you want, it is obvious that your manhood is threatened. Are
you so ashamed of your penis size that you would try to give me proof that 6'
in average (you probably don't even have that much).

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teachrmama wrote:
"whatamess" wrote
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Where is hers that all women think, and do these things she claims.
Show me where her opinion ends, and fact begins if you feel I am wrong.

No, no--be more specific. Answer each point as to why it is false. Don't
just say "not true, not true." Because the idea that women deserve more
than equality with men IS something that is being taught. We have Women's
Studies at our universities--do we have Men's Studies? We have groups
studying woman's health issues--do we have groups studying men's health
issues? We have agencies especially set up to help women with credit
issues--do we have the same for men? We have WIC for mothers of young
children. Can fathers access this resource. We look carefully to seethat
women earn equal salaries to men--do we look carefully to see that men earn
equal to women? And, like the idea or not, women gain full custody of their
children 85% of the time--and fathers only about 10%. Do you honestly
believe that men are such poor parenting risks? Anmd that women are so
superior in their skills? Think about it. Don't just write things off
because they rile you--keep an open mind and think it through.
It is all opinion, not fact. What else is there to make clear?

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teachrmama wrote:
Why is the DBP crew in every group, discussion, topic, and thread
when
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they
would not be complaining, or asking for child support?

Why would I deny that? I have no idea. As I have stated before, I think
that 50/50 joint custody should be the default position--no more CP/NCP,
except in rare cases. Let both parents be parent and provider during their
50% of the time.
As you said it s what you think.

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"Illiana via FamilyKB.com" u38194@uwe wrote in message
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teachrmama wrote:
"whatamess" wrote
...............................
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
Where is hers that all women think, and do these things she claims.
Show me where her opinion ends, and fact begins if you feel I am wrong.

No, no--be more specific. Answer each point as to why it is false. Don't
just say "not true, not true." Because the idea that women deserve more
than equality with men IS something that is being taught. We have Women's
Studies at our universities--do we have Men's Studies? We have groups
studying woman's health issues--do we have groups studying men's health
issues? We have agencies especially set up to help women with credit
issues--do we have the same for men? We have WIC for mothers of young
children. Can fathers access this resource. We look carefully to seethat
women earn equal salaries to men--do we look carefully to see that men
earn
equal to women? And, like the idea or not, women gain full custody of
their
children 85% of the time--and fathers only about 10%. Do you honestly
believe that men are such poor parenting risks? Anmd that women are so
superior in their skills? Think about it. Don't just write things off
because they rile you--keep an open mind and think it through.
It is all opinion, not fact. What else is there to make clear?

LOL See. When It doesn't fit her agenda, and even when someone states facts
backed up with proof, she still denies It. We present arguments, feelings,
and show the lopsided balance between the rights of women and men, but all
those words that form on her screen must just say " all women are evil, all
men are good and don't have to pay child support. No matter what we present,
and how we present It, she says we are wrong. This Is because she's a close
minded feminazi.
Hey Illiana, I'm killfiling you now, so I won't see any more of
your Idiotic babble. It's time to go play with the grown ups now Instead of
listening to your childish drivel.