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How to stop him?
"teachrmama" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... Why would I want to encourage this? As I said before she is having to see a therapist because she is having emotional problems related to change. Any change in her routine sets off a crying fit. It will not help her to be forced to go with someone that she doesn't want to see.I thought they used the best interest of the child to determine these things? Her father was just someone that I had a brief fling with. We didn't really care that much about each other and we both understood that. If he is such a caring father then where was for the first 6 years of her life? He could have found me if he wanted. Now just because I asked for some help with the kid that he is halfway responsible for all of a sudden he wants to act like hes a real dad to her. She doesn't even like him. She got along fine without him all this time and now he shows up disrupting her life. Is that fair to her? Do the courts really think it will be in her best interest to have her being dragged out of the house by someone she doesn't like and just barely knows? That seems like child abuse! You have got some major growing up to do. He is her FATHER. You want him to be a father in $$$$ only. But your daughter DESERVES her father in her life. And if her only parent to date is acting as childish as you are (and you are whether you like it or not), no wonder she is haveing such a hard time. Apparently she was having a hard time with change before you ever invited him otp the picture. Just what caused that? Did the father know about the child? Did you invite him to be a part of her life from the very beginning? Did you let him know where you were moving when you moved? If it was such a casual, no-strings-attached fling, why are you asking for $$$ now? Why doe he owe you that, but not deserve a relationship with the child? Why do you feel it is in the child's best interest to be raised not knowing her father? You do realize that there is a chance that the courts will take the child from you and give her to her father if they feel that your attitude and actions are harming her. And, from what you have posted here, your attitude does not seem to reflect any knowledge of the fact that your child deserves a relationship with ehr father. The courts frown on that. Seems to me like she got what she wanted (a child) and wants to be paid for it as well. Phil #3 |
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"Dale" wrote in message et... "Phil" wrote in Seems like women think that the pussy is just a ticket for a free ride. For many, it is and just as many men haven't figured it out yet. Yes, we live in ignorance until it's too late and we're forced to pay between $600 to $1400 per month. Even for the those Fathers that plan and want children in a marriage, they have no choices when the relationship breaks down. Is it right that a man is totally controlled by the governemnet becuase he has fallen into the catatgory of Divorce Status? Just who is in control of the US? Does the populace control government or the other way around? To my mind, the laws that are being created, and have been created for the past 30 or more years are nothing but control of the people that is growing in speed and severity. -- "Government is not reason. It is not eloquence. It is force. Like fire, it can be either a dangerous servant or a fearful master." Geo. Washington Phil #3 |
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"Chris" wrote in message news "Phil" wrote in message ink.net... "Mr. Anonymous" wrote in message t.com... It's kind of funny, isn't it? The girlfriends are all full of advice about "divorce him", "sue him", and all sorts of stuff, yet nobody figures that there might be a backlash. Only loads of free money... Seems like women think that the pussy is just a ticket for a free ride. For many, it is and just as many men haven't figured it out yet. Phil #3 Let me see: give sex, get money. Isn't there a name for that? Two in fact; synonyms: Child support and prostitution. Phil #3 "Dale" wrote in message . net... "Janet" wrote in She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I don't get it, you say she doesn't hardly knows the man, but has been in therapy previously and spending time with him will set her back? Since when does a parent's love do damage to a child? Perhaps the reason your boyfriend was absent all these years is because you shut him out from your daughter's life? Let me guess, you filed for C$ money just in time before her 6th birthday, so the state can legally collect arrearages from the time of birth? Did you really think you were going to collect a $30,000 check with no strings attached or did all your girlfriends not tell you about that part? If you are really serious about stopping him and you were being truthful, then drop the CS case. If he's really not interested, he will go away!!!!!!!!!! -- The Source For Premium Newsgroup Access Great Speed, Great Retention 1 GB/Day for only $8.95 |
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"Janet" wrote in message ... Why would I want to encourage this? As I said before she is having to see a therapist because she is having emotional problems related to change. Any change in her routine sets off a crying fit. It will not help her to be forced to go with someone that she doesn't want to see.I thought they used the best interest of the child to determine these things? Her father was just someone that I had a brief fling with. We didn't really care that much about each other and we both understood that. If he is such a caring father then where was for the first 6 years of her life? He could have found me if he wanted. Now just because I asked for some help with the kid that he is halfway responsible for all of a sudden he wants to act like hes a real dad to her. She doesn't even like him. She got along fine without him all this time and now he shows up disrupting her life. Is that fair to her? Do the courts really think it will be in her best interest to have her being dragged out of the house by someone she doesn't like and just barely knows? That seems like child abuse! However it may appear to you, it is not abuse. IF your daughter at the age of six has had issues with change, that isn't because her father wants to be a daddy. If you want what is best, you need to gradually include him in her life. It truly is that simple. I am sure if you and him sit down and speak with her counseler, the counselor can explain why its important to ease into this transaction. You can also try to put blame on him.... play the "Where have you been??" blah blah. How old was he? You? Regardless of where he WAS, he is here NOW. Actually, you should be very happy! How wonderful for your daughter that her daddy cares. If you look at this is a wonderful thing, don't you think she will catch on and be happy to? How great that your daughter may grow up with a father, instead of being a child with only one parent. |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? Thanks for your help. He's her father. He has as much right to see the child on HIS own turf as you do. Since when have you become pro-father? I was never against fathers. Riiiight. By the way, I have a bridge in the Sahara that's for sale. I'm against whiners who blame everyone else for their problems, i'm against anyone who doesn't show a strong sense of personal responsibility, I"m against liars and cheats. So why do you defend those very people? And you do, frequently. Perhaps by reading your own words, you manage to retain some self-esteem but I doubt there are many here who believe you. I don't. And yes, I'm also against the various folks who continue to slam me for things that I don't do (and never did), who prove over and over that they bought into some former poster's bull****, and really have no clue what I'm about at all. And those of us who base our opinions of you on your postings and think you're anti-father. Phil#3 Jan |
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"Phil" wrote in message ink.net... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? Thanks for your help. He's her father. He has as much right to see the child on HIS own turf as you do. Since when have you become pro-father? I was never against fathers. Riiiight. By the way, I have a bridge in the Sahara that's for sale. I'm against whiners who blame everyone else for their problems, i'm against anyone who doesn't show a strong sense of personal responsibility, I"m against liars and cheats. So why do you defend those very people? And you do, frequently. Perhaps by reading your own words, you manage to retain some self-esteem but I doubt there are many here who believe you. I don't. None of which makes one iota in how I live my life. If you think you can point me to where you claim that I "frequently" "defend those very people", please feel free to do so. And yes, I'm also against the various folks who continue to slam me for things that I don't do (and never did), who prove over and over that they bought into some former poster's bull****, and really have no clue what I'm about at all. And those of us who base our opinions of you on your postings and think you're anti-father. And again, that makes not a single iota of difference to how I live my life. Phil#3 Jan |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Phil" wrote in message ink.net... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? Thanks for your help. He's her father. He has as much right to see the child on HIS own turf as you do. Since when have you become pro-father? I was never against fathers. Riiiight. By the way, I have a bridge in the Sahara that's for sale. I'm against whiners who blame everyone else for their problems, i'm against anyone who doesn't show a strong sense of personal responsibility, I"m against liars and cheats. So why do you defend those very people? And you do, frequently. Perhaps by reading your own words, you manage to retain some self-esteem but I doubt there are many here who believe you. I don't. None of which makes one iota in how I live my life. If you think you can point me to where you claim that I "frequently" "defend those very people", please feel free to do so. It isn't necessary. Anyone who reads here can determine for themselves. I am sure you do not care but you could ask them how they view you and whether your viewpoint seems a bit prejudiced. And yes, I'm also against the various folks who continue to slam me for things that I don't do (and never did), who prove over and over that they bought into some former poster's bull****, and really have no clue what I'm about at all. And those of us who base our opinions of you on your postings and think you're anti-father. And again, that makes not a single iota of difference to how I live my life. True. You're frequently wrong but never in doubt. Phil #3 Phil#3 Jan |
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"Phil" wrote in message ink.net... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Phil" wrote in message ink.net... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Chris" wrote in message ... "Moon Shyne" wrote in message ... "Janet" wrote in message ... My exboyfriend and I had a little girl in 1999. He took no interest in her until I filed for child support a year ago. Now that I filed for support he wants to see her all the time. She is very uncomfortable around him and I have my doubts about him as well. I just got a notice of a hearing for him wanting to establish forced parenting time! She hardly knows this man. She doesn't even like seeing him at my house. Can he just come in and take her out of here that way? She is seeing a therapist for emotional issues and I'm afraid that this will set her back if she is forced to go visiting him. I told him he could see her over here but he says that isn't good enough. Is there any way I can stop him? Will the court make her see him? I can't bear the thought of her being dragged out of the house kicking and screaming. It will break my heart. Would they really allow that to happen? Thanks for your help. He's her father. He has as much right to see the child on HIS own turf as you do. Since when have you become pro-father? I was never against fathers. Riiiight. By the way, I have a bridge in the Sahara that's for sale. I'm against whiners who blame everyone else for their problems, i'm against anyone who doesn't show a strong sense of personal responsibility, I"m against liars and cheats. So why do you defend those very people? And you do, frequently. Perhaps by reading your own words, you manage to retain some self-esteem but I doubt there are many here who believe you. I don't. None of which makes one iota in how I live my life. If you think you can point me to where you claim that I "frequently" "defend those very people", please feel free to do so. It isn't necessary. Anyone who reads here can determine for themselves. I am sure you do not care but you could ask them how they view you and whether your viewpoint seems a bit prejudiced. You're right - I don't care. The opinions of people who actually KNOW me carry far more weight. And yes, I'm also against the various folks who continue to slam me for things that I don't do (and never did), who prove over and over that they bought into some former poster's bull****, and really have no clue what I'm about at all. And those of us who base our opinions of you on your postings and think you're anti-father. And again, that makes not a single iota of difference to how I live my life. True. You're frequently wrong but never in doubt. We're all frequently wrong, Phil - even you :-) Phil #3 Phil#3 Jan |
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"Tiffany" wrote "teachrmama" wrote ....... It's going to be up to you to make this easy for her. The judge almost certaily will assign him time with his chld. So you need to start talking about all the wonderful things little girls can do with their fathers. Talk to him, and arrange for the 3 of you to start doing some things together--go out for a hamburger, go see a movie, etc. Laugh with him, talk with him. Let HER see what a nice man he is. (You obviously did more thatn laugh and talk at one point in time, or she wouldn't be here) Let her see the man you cared enough about to create her. YOU have the power to help this happen without trauma. Be a loving mother to your daughter and help her get to know and love her daddy. Great post TM! I couldn't have said it any better. == This case appears to be a prime (and tragic) example of PAS. Given that, the father stands a reasonable chance of getting very liberal parenting access. I hope the judge sees how the mother has manipulated this child's emotions to the point of her needing therapy and being in fear of her father with whom she has been denied contact. I hope the judge sees through it all for the best interest of this little girl. |
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"Moon Shyne" wrote in You're right - I don't care. The opinions of people who actually KNOW me carry far more weight. And once again the subject matter depletes into all about her. Can we not get passed this rambling idiot, some of us have much larger issues to deal with such a imprisonment, forced poverty, Shyster lawyers and a corrupt government system. Recognize that USENET Kooks will take the opposite side of any discussion to create excitement for themselves. They thrive on the attention as they have no life outside of the internet. When you see a posting from a looney like Moon Shyne, expect a wacked out responce and ignore it. Lets move on, there's more important things to discuss. thanks Dale |
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