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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
This is Phil's brain on drugs:
Governor Swill wrote This is Dusty's brain on drugs: Yet, the woman isn't hounded to the ends of the Earth for her folly now is she? It isn't she who is hunted, has her name plastered around the world, her name slandered, her credit ruined, her pay taken at the point of a gun. Nor does the woman face near certain incarceration if she is indigent and cannot pay. When you get pregnant and bear a child, let's discuss this again. So you're saying that only those directly and intimately involved in any situation should have a voice in the situation? That would mean that homicide is quite legal since the victims would never say a word against it. IOW, you're post above is completely illogical. Phil #3 If you'd rather choose to misunderstand by ignoring the context of the thread, I'm ok with that. Swill -- No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government. Always hopeful, yet discontent, He knows changes arent permanent, But change is. -- Geddy Lee/Rush http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
"Governor Swill" wrote in message ... This is teachrmama's brain on drugs: Governor Swill wrote This is Dusty's brain on drugs: Yet, the woman isn't hounded to the ends of the Earth for her folly now is she? It isn't she who is hunted, has her name plastered around the world, her name slandered, her credit ruined, her pay taken at the point of a gun. Nor does the woman face near certain incarceration if she is indigent and cannot pay. When you get pregnant and bear a child, let's discuss this again. Oh, are you one of those people who consider mothers to be parents and fathers to be unnecessary? No. If you were paying attention to the thread you would have seen that I consider fathers to be as responsible for their children as the mothers. Those men who complain bitterly about being forced by the law into providing even a bare minimum of care for their kids is shameful. They should be there for their kids, on good relations with their mother and doing his part to raise them right. But you said that we could not discuss that the fathers are hounded to the ends of the earth to support their children and mothers are not hounded at all about supporting their children until men get pregnant. That sounds like you feel that the ability to bear children means that one should not be held responsible, and the inability to do so means that it is ok to hound someone. Of course this is how I think it *should* be. Reality is very different. Just so you know, I totally agree that children deserve both **parents** in their day to day lives--not one parent and one money provider. I think it would be fantastic if that were pursued as the standard. |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
This is teachrmama's brain on drugs:
But you said that we could not discuss that the fathers are hounded to the ends of the earth to support their children and mothers are not hounded at all about supporting their children until men get pregnant. If they abandon their family, then they should be hounded. If you don't agree, go bear a child. Swill -- No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government. Always hopeful, yet discontent, He knows changes arent permanent, But change is. -- Geddy Lee/Rush http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
"Governor Swill" wrote in message ... This is teachrmama's brain on drugs: But you said that we could not discuss that the fathers are hounded to the ends of the earth to support their children and mothers are not hounded at all about supporting their children until men get pregnant. If they abandon their family, then they should be hounded. If you don't agree, go bear a child. Uh, I have children. Not quite sure what that has to do with it. If the only men that were hounded were the ones that abandoned their families, I would have no problem with it. |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
"Governor Swill" wrote in message
... This is Dusty's brain on drugs: Yet, the woman isn't hounded to the ends of the Earth for her folly now is she? It isn't she who is hunted, has her name plastered around the world, her name slandered, her credit ruined, her pay taken at the point of a gun. Nor does the woman face near certain incarceration if she is indigent and cannot pay. When you get pregnant and bear a child, let's discuss this again. Well, Trip-X, when you get your head outta your ass and have a coherant thought, we'll be able to have a conversation. |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
"Governor Swill" wrote in message ... This is teachrmama's brain on drugs: But you said that we could not discuss that the fathers are hounded to the ends of the earth to support their children and mothers are not hounded at all about supporting their children until men get pregnant. If they abandon their family, then they should be hounded. If you don't agree, go bear a child. Hey almighty Drug Councilor, answer this! Detroit is a city with 15% unemployment rate, thousands of kids are living in abject poverty and yet the CSE has done NOTHING to improve their lives. The only money they collect is from fathers that would have given money anyway and they claim they are 100% successful. The Feds continue to pay these CSE fools at your expense! Is this the type of useless government agency that advocate? |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
Governor Swill wrote:
This is teachrmama's brain on drugs: But you said that we could not discuss that the fathers are hounded to the ends of the earth to support their children and mothers are not hounded at all about supporting their children until men get pregnant. If they abandon their family, then they should be hounded. Choice for women - servitude for men. If you don't agree, go bear a child. Men should pay for all of the children that they choose to give birth to. -- Ray Fischer |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
DB wrote:
"Lars Eighner" wrote in Because these morons are all of a piece. There has never been one that cared as much for a living baby as for a dead fetus. They are not interested in making a world in which no woman would want an abortion, they are only interested in using the power of the state to force their notions on the bodies of others. They want plenty of people living in miserable poverty in order to have a source of cheap labor --- and that is why they want compulsory childbearing. It is about power to them. It is about forcing their will on others. I know all about poverty, I live there! Better choices of protection should be advocated to control unwanted birth, but once life has started, that's where we separate! Life started billions of years ag and continues in an obroken chain. What you really mean is that you think that you should be allowed to force people to accept whatever rules you make up. What is the difference between you people and the butchers of the concentration camps as What's the difference between you and any other rapist? -- Ray Fischer |
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Does pro-choice apply to child support?
"Governor Swill" wrote in message news This is Phil's brain on drugs: Governor Swill wrote This is Dusty's brain on drugs: Yet, the woman isn't hounded to the ends of the Earth for her folly now is she? It isn't she who is hunted, has her name plastered around the world, her name slandered, her credit ruined, her pay taken at the point of a gun. Nor does the woman face near certain incarceration if she is indigent and cannot pay. When you get pregnant and bear a child, let's discuss this again. So you're saying that only those directly and intimately involved in any situation should have a voice in the situation? That would mean that homicide is quite legal since the victims would never say a word against it. IOW, you're post above is completely illogical. Phil #3 If you'd rather choose to misunderstand by ignoring the context of the thread, I'm ok with that. Swill The problem is that I *didn't* misunderstand. You are claiming that only people involved in a situation should have a voice in the situation. It was a stupid comment. Phil #3 -- No, his mind is not for rent To any God or government. Always hopeful, yet discontent, He knows changes arent permanent, But change is. -- Geddy Lee/Rush http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html |
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