Bill Cosby - NAACP leaders stunned by remarks of prominent comedian

wrote:
Bob LeChevalier wrote:
I have in the past quoted the Andersonville Diaries, wherein a
journalist of the time, serving in the Union Army and then captured
and imprisoned in Andersonville, reported that the Confederates there
had almost no one capable of reading and writing to a skill level
needed to do basic clerical work, and hence used Union prisoners. He
also reported that the Union prisoners asked him to read aloud the
occasional newspaper that made it into the prison, since he was able
to do so (strongly implying that many of them were not).

This is consistent with the historic trend toward continuously
escalating literacy/education requirements for survival. In the 19th
century folks were mostly farmers and menial laborers, jobs which
did not require much education. In the 20th century, there were lots
of jobs in large offices where basic clerical skills level was
needed, leading into the information age where everthing
is computerized and high-tech skills became the norm for good jobs.

This is exactly why DAFNz are doing so poorly. As a group, they
reached their Peter Principle "level of genetic incompetence" in
about 1950 in terms of intellectual qualification for the types
of jobs available. In today's schools and workplace, DAFNz can't
cut it.

Except for entertainment, your IQ-75 DAFN-appropriate jobs have mostly
been replaced by robots/automation. In recent years, our garbage man
has always been a DAFN; in contrast with the UPS/Air_Express/Etc
services (white/Asian folks with hand-held parcel-tracking computers)
I've never seen a DAFN driver; DAFNz are probably avoided
not only due to dumbness, but in view of their proclivity for theft
of anything valuable. The couple of times our local post office
tried to use affirmative-action DAFN mailpersons, they didn't last long
due to FUBAR delivery problems...

What I see coming in 20-30 years, is a genetic test at about age 14
where IQ-75 LOOZerz will be sent straight to a warm fuzzy prison of
sorts, politely called a "Genetic Defective Management Facility"
which efficiently short circuits the crime/capture/conviction process.
DNA test will identify the few DAFNz actually capable of entering the
workplace, and save mass money processing the rest. Kind of the end
result of Walter Williams' proposed DAFN triage with *No_Breeding*
permitted.

Hey Bob, look for the ~30th Amendment that makes it all legal.
The Pendulum_of_Expediency is about to swing away from the liberal
extreme...

If that happens, I hope the rest of the world has the sense to finish
off Nazi America.

But it won't happen.

lojbab
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(Opinions are my own; I do not speak for the organization.)
Artificial language Loglan/Lojban: http://www.lojban.org

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(Herman Rubin) wrote:
As little as possible, and they were explicitly forbidden by
law to teach them.

They were explicitly forbidden by law in some places to
teach them to read and write, but there had to be a fair
amount of vocal communication.

Not necessarily between master and slave, except perhaps the
house slaves.

Were slaves doing cooking forbidden to read recipes?

Why would they have written recipes?

where's the proof that they did not ?

If they were given written recipes, that would be tacit admission
of a crime, specifically teaching them to read.

'some places'

do you have proof that there were NO written recipes in ANY
location ?

What kind of proof are you looking for?

if not, your arguement is flawed

For a class in logic, yes. For someone looking to figure out what
was most likely the case, why?

so now your standard is not 'logical true or false' , but 'what was
most likely the case' ?

nice waffle

come back when you're ready to deabte with the grown-ups

You missed a question in your rush to condescend.

I missed nothing except your attempt to dilute the burden of proof,
which is on you, not me

No, you actually missed a question. It was: What kind of proof are you
looking for?

Again, a nice waffle, but no cigar.

Mmmm waffles.

Slainte,
Fletch

What is your proof?

R. Steve Walz wrote:

greccogirl wrote:


Oh I see. You're guessing again. Thanks.


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Nah, it's a certainty, it's just that the primary duty of an abuser
is to cowe his victims out of reporting it.
Steve




R. Steve Walz wrote:



greccogirl wrote:




Hi Steve,

I just skimmed this because I've already read about Cosby's comments,
but I'm curious, just how do you know Cosby's kids hate him? Are
you a close personal friend, or are you assuming?




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No one has to be to know that. It's obvious from his demeanor, he's
a control freak and a guilting shamer. If they don't admit to hating
him, then they are damaged and neurotic and their lives are crap.
Steve







R. Steve Walz wrote:





I think Cosby would tell you that they probably don't even know what
good parenting is.

Holger




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Cosby is so hated by his own children that they'd tell you he doesn't.
Steve

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Cosby is a rich rightist asshole, he always has been, he has played
golf with Nixon and Reagan, and he's a black racist. The "I don't
give a damn" attitide is a form of disrespect that the white society
has earned with its racist and economic brutality and unfairness!!!
Steve

Well I've heard a lot of weird stuff but labeling Cosby as a racist is
quite amusing. Besides what you're not getting, is the form of
"disrespect" that you think hurts white America is really just hurting
black America. It isn't hurting those they think they are hurting.
That is what Cosby is trying to say

More black children come from broken homes. Something like 70%.
Everyone knows that is not helpful, statistics show this fact alone
starts them out on the wrong track. Children like this are much more
likely to live in poverty, do more crime, and end up with a poorer
education.

Black children aren't alone in these statistics. A friend of a friend
is 38, on baby number four, all by four different men. They live in a
two bedroom trailer. Her daughter is 12 now. The last man, daddy of
baby number four, lived there with her until she got pregnant and then
split (big surprise). What is daughter learning? Chances are, she'll
go up unfortunately and repeat the same mistakes her mother made.


Holger Dansk wrote:

On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:24:26 GMT, "Fletch F. Fletch"
wrote:



Christopher Weeks wrote:


Fletch F. Fletch wrote:



You probably don't realize that there is a correct way to do
everything.


I sure don't. I'm confused about the "correct" way to sit, for
instance. I sort of figure that if your butt is on a chair, bench,
couch, the ground, the back of a car, the edge of a table, etc. and
your weight is mainly supported by that butt, allowing your legs and
feet to rest, then you're sitting correctly. Right?

What does it even mean to sit incorrectly?


It means to sit in a way that leads to injury, short term or long
term, through falling or improper body posture. It means to sit in
a way such that you damage things. There is also a correct way to
look at a monitor and type while you are sitting correctly. Set
that up wrong and work at a computer for a few years. You'll find
what incorrect means.


OK, but what's it to you?


Nothing. I was answering your question. And blunting, ever so slightly,
your general point about the complete arbitrariness of the word correct.



Everyone does stuff with, for and to their
bodies that could be called sub-optimal.


No question. I do it all the time, although I am getting better.



And really, the best way to
look at these factors is through risk assessment. There is a risk
that poor posture will lead to late-life back trauma. There is a
risk that poor wrist positioning will lead to nervous disorders after
years of typing. So those are incorrect, right?


If your goal is to be healthy, those are incorrect.



What about driving?
Is driving incorrect because there is a risk of injury and death?


One must look at the *consequences* of driving or not
driving, and perhaps at the consequences of driving well or driving poorly.



I mean, the implications here are pretty broad and it certainly sounds
to many of us like a very broad brush painting along lines of truth
are being used to obscure racism. What's your agenda?


I don't think I really have one.

I have no use for racists. They make me sick. But sometimes I get a
similar feeling from well-intentioned people who allow discussion of nothing
beyond PC-filtered tripe, sort of anti-racists.

Blacks score poorly on standardized tests compared with whites and asians.
And the gap persists, year after year. Why? I don't know. I just want
the friggin' problem solved. And the current solutions are not closing the
gap.



The problem is with the black value system which is terrible. They do
not value education and doing things right. Blacks must want to speak
correctly and walk correctly and sit correctly and do many other things
correctly in order to change their lives. They must value education
instead of criticizing and making fun of black students who do well on
test and study and try to do well. Without a good value system they are
lost.

Holger

http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm

On Sun, 30 May 2004 21:42:37 GMT, greccogirl
wrote:

More black children come from broken homes. Something like 70%.

It's 68%. 68% of black-savage-Ethiopian-American women are unwed
mothers.

Holger

Everyone knows that is not helpful, statistics show this fact alone
starts them out on the wrong track. Children like this are much more
likely to live in poverty, do more crime, and end up with a poorer
education.

Black children aren't alone in these statistics. A friend of a friend
is 38, on baby number four, all by four different men. They live in a
two bedroom trailer. Her daughter is 12 now. The last man, daddy of
baby number four, lived there with her until she got pregnant and then
split (big surprise). What is daughter learning? Chances are, she'll
go up unfortunately and repeat the same mistakes her mother made.


Holger Dansk wrote:

On Sun, 23 May 2004 22:24:26 GMT, "Fletch F. Fletch"
wrote:



Christopher Weeks wrote:


Fletch F. Fletch wrote:



You probably don't realize that there is a correct way to do
everything.


I sure don't. I'm confused about the "correct" way to sit, for
instance. I sort of figure that if your butt is on a chair, bench,
couch, the ground, the back of a car, the edge of a table, etc. and
your weight is mainly supported by that butt, allowing your legs and
feet to rest, then you're sitting correctly. Right?

What does it even mean to sit incorrectly?


It means to sit in a way that leads to injury, short term or long
term, through falling or improper body posture. It means to sit in
a way such that you damage things. There is also a correct way to
look at a monitor and type while you are sitting correctly. Set
that up wrong and work at a computer for a few years. You'll find
what incorrect means.


OK, but what's it to you?


Nothing. I was answering your question. And blunting, ever so slightly,
your general point about the complete arbitrariness of the word correct.



Everyone does stuff with, for and to their
bodies that could be called sub-optimal.


No question. I do it all the time, although I am getting better.



And really, the best way to
look at these factors is through risk assessment. There is a risk
that poor posture will lead to late-life back trauma. There is a
risk that poor wrist positioning will lead to nervous disorders after
years of typing. So those are incorrect, right?


If your goal is to be healthy, those are incorrect.



What about driving?
Is driving incorrect because there is a risk of injury and death?


One must look at the *consequences* of driving or not
driving, and perhaps at the consequences of driving well or driving poorly.



I mean, the implications here are pretty broad and it certainly sounds
to many of us like a very broad brush painting along lines of truth
are being used to obscure racism. What's your agenda?


I don't think I really have one.

I have no use for racists. They make me sick. But sometimes I get a
similar feeling from well-intentioned people who allow discussion of nothing
beyond PC-filtered tripe, sort of anti-racists.

Blacks score poorly on standardized tests compared with whites and asians.
And the gap persists, year after year. Why? I don't know. I just want
the friggin' problem solved. And the current solutions are not closing the
gap.



The problem is with the black value system which is terrible. They do
not value education and doing things right. Blacks must want to speak
correctly and walk correctly and sit correctly and do many other things
correctly in order to change their lives. They must value education
instead of criticizing and making fun of black students who do well on
test and study and try to do well. Without a good value system they are
lost.

Holger

http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm




http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm

wrote:

This is exactly why DAFNz are doing so poorly. As a group, they
Except for entertainment, your IQ-75 DAFN-appropriate jobs have mostly
has always been a DAFN; in contrast with the UPS/Air_Express/Etc
I've never seen a DAFN driver; DAFNz are probably avoided
tried to use affirmative-action DAFN mailpersons, they didn't last DNA test will identify the few DAFNz actually capable of entering the
result of Walter Williams' proposed DAFN triage with *No_Breeding*
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Tell everybody what DAFNz are, so we can ****-can you.
Steve

greccogirl wrote:

What is your proof?
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None is required, because if the don't, they SHOULD, and they're
LYING because of their abuse.
Steve


R. Steve Walz wrote:
I think Cosby would tell you that they probably don't even know what
good parenting is.

Holger
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Cosby is so hated by his own children that they'd tell you he doesn't.
Steve

greccogirl wrote:





---------------
Cosby is a rich rightist asshole, he always has been, he has played
golf with Nixon and Reagan, and he's a black racist. The "I don't
give a damn" attitide is a form of disrespect that the white society
has earned with its racist and economic brutality and unfairness!!!
Steve

Well I've heard a lot of weird stuff but labeling Cosby as a racist is
quite amusing. Besides what you're not getting, is the form of
"disrespect" that you think hurts white America is really just hurting
black America. It isn't hurting those they think they are hurting.
That is what Cosby is trying to say
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Cosby has always hung out with the GOP, he's a log-cabin repub dildo.
Or didn't you know that, he's a ****ing Oreo.
Steve

Holger Dansk wrote:

black-savage-Ethiopian-American women
Holger
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You're a racist **** and you deserve to be killed.

Ignore this racist asshole.
Steve