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Old September 25th 06, 06:54 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Dusty
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The balance of power between male and female, father and mother, has been
systematically destroyed in favor of female dominance at law. The following
is a (short) list of female advantages over male.

1.. A married woman may legally abort her child without her husband's
permission. This underscores the materialistic view that the male is merely
a sperm donor and that the child is not a person.
2.. Although a wife may abort without permission from her husband, he
cannot compel an abortion, even if the child is not his.
3.. A husband is legally and financially responsible for any child born to
the marriage even though it is not his.
4.. Except for rich men and in cases of female default (prison,
abandonment, hospitalization, death, et.al.) women universally receive
custody of children and all that comes with it, the marital home and child
support.
5.. Denial of court ordered visitation is common place and not punished
(yet failure to pay all your child support, for any reason, will cause the
state to bring a myriad of punishments down on you).
6.. Alienation, turning the kids against their father, is commonplace and
tolerated by the courts.
7.. Any woman can tell any amount of lies in family court and not fear
prosecution for perjury.
8.. Fathers routinely have their children taken from them by judges. In
most, if not all, states men are not allowed to have jury trials. Juries
would never do to families what judges do. State policy is executed via the
judiciary.
9.. Women frequently scam the welfare system. When they are caught they
are not prosecuted or even made to pay back the money.
10.. Women are the primary clients of the welfare state, not men.
11.. When an unmarried woman misrepresents her fecundity to a man, he is
still financially liable for her unilateral decision to become pregnant.
12.. If an unmarried woman becomes pregnant she may abort over the
objection of the man. If she decides to keep the child he cannot compel an
abortion and will be held liable for child support.
13.. Paternal grandparents have no rights of visitation with their son's
children. For that matter neither do the maternal grandparents have rights
of visitation - none that are enforced anyway.
14.. Any woman may call the police and allege physical abuse. Even without
any physical evidence the male will be arrested, booked and placed into the
system for prosecution. He must prove his innocence. He will be evicted from
his home without due process of law and may have a personal protection order
(restraining order) filed against him.
15.. Any woman may allege sex abuse of one of her children and 800 years
of constitutional protections are thrown out the window. Without due process
of law the man will be evicted from his home, arrested, booked, released on
bail and prosecuted. He will have to pay child support. The allegation of
sex abuse may be used in family court to obtain permanent custody. He will
have to pay tens of thousand of dollars for an attorney and all this while
he is trying to fund a new residence. The custodial mother can smear his
name in public with impunity and even try to destroy his employment and all
without fear of correction from the court. The woman does not have to retain
an attorney to prosecute the sex abuse case; that the state does this for
her. If it is later discovered that she lied, the system will not prosecute
her. The man will get his day in court after a year or two. But by then he
has had his children taken from him and his property transferred to his
accuser.
16.. After divorce there are often many conflicts that have to be resolved
by the court. The custodial mother does not have to hire an attorney, the
court ancillary will represent her interest against the non-custodial
father. The father must hire an attorney. He may represent himself but then
he has a fool for an attorney.
17.. The system is quick to increase child support and even base it on
overtime and/or second jobs. However, if a man loses overtime or his second
job (or his primary job) he quickly falls into "arrears." The courts will
not make adjustments even if loss of income is not his fault - and in some
cases, they may even increase the amount and call it "incentive" to find
another, high paying job (which, to them is the only thing an NCP should
ever seek, even if it's not in your chosen field or at your education level)
so they can go after more "support" money.
18.. Draconian measures for collection of child support have been
federally mandated. These include seizure of assets, seizure of professional
licenses and up to four years in prison (or more in some cases). Arrearages
compound at exorbitant interest rates (some states charges up to 18% or more
in interest alone!).
19.. Child support accrues for men in prison with above market interest
rates. Such men become "debt slaves" to the state. (See Title 42/Chapter
7/Subchapter IV/Part D/Subsection 666)
20.. Men are traumatized by divorce and loss of their children but the
courts will not tolerate a loss of income. The court will not adjust child
support accordingly.


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Old September 25th 06, 02:32 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
jd
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sounds like its time to make sure our lawmakers (and especially those up for
re-election) are aware that a revolution is in the offing. Anyone feel like
writing up and posting a nice letter that we can all mail to our
local/state/federal representatives? if we all mail a letter every few days,
they'll start realizing that this is an issue that is way overdue for
fixing.

Oh yeah, flooding the local newspapers, news channels, radio stations etc.
will also help.

we all know this is aproblem, the only real possibility of fixing it is to
start a massive public awareness campaign... If elected officials think that
there is a significant voting block that will use this as the major issue in
deciding how thye vote, change will happen *really* fast.

there really aren't any other options, unless you're on of those folks that
think violent action actually helps...

--JD


"Dusty" wrote in message
...
The balance of power between male and female, father and mother, has been
systematically destroyed in favor of female dominance at law. The
following is a (short) list of female advantages over male.

1.. A married woman may legally abort her child without her husband's
permission. This underscores the materialistic view that the male is
merely a sperm donor and that the child is not a person.
2.. Although a wife may abort without permission from her husband, he
cannot compel an abortion, even if the child is not his.
3.. A husband is legally and financially responsible for any child born
to the marriage even though it is not his.
4.. Except for rich men and in cases of female default (prison,
abandonment, hospitalization, death, et.al.) women universally receive
custody of children and all that comes with it, the marital home and child
support.
5.. Denial of court ordered visitation is common place and not punished
(yet failure to pay all your child support, for any reason, will cause the
state to bring a myriad of punishments down on you).
6.. Alienation, turning the kids against their father, is commonplace and
tolerated by the courts.
7.. Any woman can tell any amount of lies in family court and not fear
prosecution for perjury.
8.. Fathers routinely have their children taken from them by judges. In
most, if not all, states men are not allowed to have jury trials. Juries
would never do to families what judges do. State policy is executed via
the judiciary.
9.. Women frequently scam the welfare system. When they are caught they
are not prosecuted or even made to pay back the money.
10.. Women are the primary clients of the welfare state, not men.
11.. When an unmarried woman misrepresents her fecundity to a man, he is
still financially liable for her unilateral decision to become pregnant.
12.. If an unmarried woman becomes pregnant she may abort over the
objection of the man. If she decides to keep the child he cannot compel an
abortion and will be held liable for child support.
13.. Paternal grandparents have no rights of visitation with their son's
children. For that matter neither do the maternal grandparents have rights
of visitation - none that are enforced anyway.
14.. Any woman may call the police and allege physical abuse. Even
without any physical evidence the male will be arrested, booked and placed
into the system for prosecution. He must prove his innocence. He will be
evicted from his home without due process of law and may have a personal
protection order (restraining order) filed against him.
15.. Any woman may allege sex abuse of one of her children and 800 years
of constitutional protections are thrown out the window. Without due
process of law the man will be evicted from his home, arrested, booked,
released on bail and prosecuted. He will have to pay child support. The
allegation of sex abuse may be used in family court to obtain permanent
custody. He will have to pay tens of thousand of dollars for an attorney
and all this while he is trying to fund a new residence. The custodial
mother can smear his name in public with impunity and even try to destroy
his employment and all without fear of correction from the court. The
woman does not have to retain an attorney to prosecute the sex abuse case;
that the state does this for her. If it is later discovered that she lied,
the system will not prosecute her. The man will get his day in court after
a year or two. But by then he has had his children taken from him and his
property transferred to his accuser.
16.. After divorce there are often many conflicts that have to be
resolved by the court. The custodial mother does not have to hire an
attorney, the court ancillary will represent her interest against the
non-custodial father. The father must hire an attorney. He may represent
himself but then he has a fool for an attorney.
17.. The system is quick to increase child support and even base it on
overtime and/or second jobs. However, if a man loses overtime or his
second job (or his primary job) he quickly falls into "arrears." The
courts will not make adjustments even if loss of income is not his fault -
and in some cases, they may even increase the amount and call it
"incentive" to find another, high paying job (which, to them is the only
thing an NCP should ever seek, even if it's not in your chosen field or at
your education level) so they can go after more "support" money.
18.. Draconian measures for collection of child support have been
federally mandated. These include seizure of assets, seizure of
professional licenses and up to four years in prison (or more in some
cases). Arrearages compound at exorbitant interest rates (some states
charges up to 18% or more in interest alone!).
19.. Child support accrues for men in prison with above market interest
rates. Such men become "debt slaves" to the state. (See Title 42/Chapter
7/Subchapter IV/Part D/Subsection 666)
20.. Men are traumatized by divorce and loss of their children but the
courts will not tolerate a loss of income. The court will not adjust child
support accordingly.




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Old October 5th 06, 05:58 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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Dusty wrote:
The balance of power between male and female, father and mother, has been
systematically destroyed in favor of female dominance at law. The following
is a (short) list of female advantages over male.

1.. A married woman may legally abort her child without her husband's
permission. This underscores the materialistic view that the male is merely
a sperm donor and that the child is not a person.


Any pregnant man can abort. A fetus is not a child.

2.. Although a wife may abort without permission from her husband, he
cannot compel an abortion, even if the child is not his.


He can in the bible. Numbers 5:11-31

snip

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman, and if you
can't find a woman willing to deal with you and your demands, it's a
sign you shouldn't breed in the first place. However, there are many,
many women who buy into the idea that a woman is less human if she
chooses not to breed, and thus, they often feel a need to go along with
the herd and don't actually think things out very carefully.

If you are stupid enough to **** such a woman, both of you are unfit to
breed, since intelligence is a heritable trait.

A study published in the journal Evolution demonstrated a very strong
correlation between early/frequent childbearing and low IQ.

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Old October 5th 06, 11:23 AM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Gini
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wrote
..............................

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,

==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?



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Old October 5th 06, 03:07 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Phil
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"Gini" wrote in message
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wrote
.............................

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,

==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?

He should follow her around with pen, pencil and a thermometer to keep
track of her periods and temperature.
Nothing to it.
Phil #3


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Old October 5th 06, 10:20 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
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"Phil" wrote

"Gini" wrote

wrote
.............................

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,

==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?

He should follow her around with pen, pencil and a thermometer to keep
track of her periods and temperature.

==
Hehe--Cuz she can't count to 30, I guess.


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Old October 5th 06, 11:04 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Phil
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"Gini" wrote in message
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"Phil" wrote

"Gini" wrote

wrote
.............................

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If
you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,
==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?

He should follow her around with pen, pencil and a thermometer to
keep track of her periods and temperature.

==
Hehe--Cuz she can't count to 30, I guess.


Well, you know, math is hard
Phil #3


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Old October 6th 06, 04:14 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Tracy
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"Phil" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Gini" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

wrote
.............................

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,

==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?

He should follow her around with pen, pencil and a thermometer to keep
track of her periods and temperature.
Nothing to it.


Reminds me of a co-worker of mine. Him and his wife are trying to have a
child together. She'll send him a page when the temperature & time is just
right. When hearing the page I'll laugh and tell him it's time to go home.


Tracy


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Old October 6th 06, 04:12 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Tracy
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"Gini" wrote in message
news:[email protected]

wrote
.............................

Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,

==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?


Isn't a vasectomy only cheaper than a month of child support if child
support is more than a vasecotmy? How much is a vasectomy?

A man can figure out when a woman is fertile by knowing her cycle. It
requires her sharing that information with him, but once the cycle is made
known it isn't hard to figure out when she is fertile during the month.
There is a small percentage of woman whose cycles are not consistant and
therefore using any type of method would fail.

Tracy


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Old October 6th 06, 08:35 PM posted to alt.child-support,alt.mens-rights,alt.support.divorce
Fred
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Tracy wrote:
"Gini" wrote in message
news:[email protected]
wrote
.............................
Deary, a vasectomy is cheaper than a month of child support. If you
don't want to breed, don't have sex with a fertile woman,

==
And how is he to know when she is fertile?


Isn't a vasectomy only cheaper than a month of child support if child
support is more than a vasecotmy? How much is a vasectomy?


In the US, between $450 and $700. See
http://www.vasectomymedical.com/vasectomy-cost.html

A man can figure out when a woman is fertile by knowing her cycle. It
requires her sharing that information with him, but once the cycle is made
known it isn't hard to figure out when she is fertile during the month.
There is a small percentage of woman whose cycles are not consistant and
therefore using any type of method would fail.


And if she lies, what then? Can he sue for fraud?
 




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