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Dad's Visitation Responsibility
My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the
father refuses to pay for events that my son wants to participate in during his visitation time. The father claims that is what his child support goes towards. I tried explaining to the father that the child support is to help support him during my 95% time share and that during his 5% time he is to pay for expenses. Isn't that true????? or am I missing something here? Dana |
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On Oct 4, 2:33 pm, "Lvnsurpriseaz" u37991@uwe wrote:
My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the father refuses to pay for events that my son wants to participate in during his visitation time. The father claims that is what his child support goes towards. I tried explaining to the father that the child support is to help support him during my 95% time share and that during his 5% time he is to pay for expenses. Isn't that true????? or am I missing something here? Dana He actually may have a point. However, I'm in the same situation your husband is in, and I would never take that stance, unless I was totally broke. It just deprives the kid. I just suck it up and pay for the stuff I sign my daughter up for and the stuff that she needs when she's in my care. That why lots of NCPs who share custody gripe about having to pay twice. It's hard, and not really fair. Shared custody, NO child support, and everybody's should be happy (except for the those with a sense of entitlement). |
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So your idea is he pays when the child is with you and he pays when the
child is with him! "Lvnsurpriseaz" u37991@uwe wrote in message news:7934879433388@uwe... My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the father refuses to pay for events that my son wants to participate in during his visitation time. The father claims that is what his child support goes towards. I tried explaining to the father that the child support is to help support him during my 95% time share and that during his 5% time he is to pay for expenses. Isn't that true????? or am I missing something here? Dana |
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Yes, child support is based on visitation time. If he had more visitation
time he would pay less in child support, because esentially he would need more of the money for expenses for when he has him. Doesn't that make sense? DB wrote: So your idea is he pays when the child is with you and he pays when the child is with him! My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] Dana |
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Well, the father can't have shared custody because we live in two different
states. So he only comes out 1 weekend everyother month. wrote: My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the father refuses to pay for events that my son wants to participate in during [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] Dana He actually may have a point. However, I'm in the same situation your husband is in, and I would never take that stance, unless I was totally broke. It just deprives the kid. I just suck it up and pay for the stuff I sign my daughter up for and the stuff that she needs when she's in my care. That why lots of NCPs who share custody gripe about having to pay twice. It's hard, and not really fair. Shared custody, NO child support, and everybody's should be happy (except for the those with a sense of entitlement). |
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"Lvnsurpriseaz" u37991@uwe wrote in message news:7934879433388@uwe... My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the father refuses to pay for events that my son wants to participate in during his visitation time. The father claims that is what his child support goes towards. I tried explaining to the father that the child support is to help support him during my 95% time share and that during his 5% time he is to pay for expenses. Isn't that true????? or am I missing something here? CS awards are based on the CP having the children 100% of the time and do not take into consideration expenses that "travel with the children". The new parenting plans being adopted by some of the states allow for a reduction of CS once a threshold of visitation is reached. The most common threshold is 30+% visitation time. What that means is NCP's do not get a break on CS paid until they care for the child at least 30% of the time. And then the CS reduction is phased in so that even at 50% visitation the NCP can still be forced to pay something. If the dispute is over small amounts (like going to a movie) I think the father is nit-picking. But if it is for transportation or any other larger amounts the CP should pay it or send money along with the child to cover the expenses. |
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Bob,
I appreciate what you are saying. It is regarding baseball tournaments which cost anywhere from $40 - $70. I feel that he should pay for the tournament fee if he wants his son to play in a tournament on his weekend. The thing is the father tries everyway possible to get out of paying for his responsibilities during the time he has visitation time. The child is 16 yrs old and believe me the childs food bill is almost more than his child support! !!!!! LOL Bob Whiteside wrote: My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] pay for expenses. Isn't that true????? or am I missing something here? CS awards are based on the CP having the children 100% of the time and do not take into consideration expenses that "travel with the children". The new parenting plans being adopted by some of the states allow for a reduction of CS once a threshold of visitation is reached. The most common threshold is 30+% visitation time. What that means is NCP's do not get a break on CS paid until they care for the child at least 30% of the time. And then the CS reduction is phased in so that even at 50% visitation the NCP can still be forced to pay something. If the dispute is over small amounts (like going to a movie) I think the father is nit-picking. But if it is for transportation or any other larger amounts the CP should pay it or send money along with the child to cover the expenses. |
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Bob,
I appreciate what you are saying. It is regarding baseball tournaments which cost anywhere from $40 - $70. I feel that he should pay for the tournament fee if he wants his son to play in a tournament on his weekend. The thing is the father tries everyway possible to get out of paying for his responsibilities during the time he has visitation time. The child is 16 yrs old and believe me the childs food bill is almost more than his child support! !!!!! LOL Bob Whiteside wrote: My sons father pays child support and I have 100% physical custody. Now, the [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] pay for expenses. Isn't that true????? or am I missing something here? CS awards are based on the CP having the children 100% of the time and do not take into consideration expenses that "travel with the children". The new parenting plans being adopted by some of the states allow for a reduction of CS once a threshold of visitation is reached. The most common threshold is 30+% visitation time. What that means is NCP's do not get a break on CS paid until they care for the child at least 30% of the time. And then the CS reduction is phased in so that even at 50% visitation the NCP can still be forced to pay something. If the dispute is over small amounts (like going to a movie) I think the father is nit-picking. But if it is for transportation or any other larger amounts the CP should pay it or send money along with the child to cover the expenses. |
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"Lvnsurpriseaz" u37991@uwe wrote in The child is 16 yrs old and believe me the childs food bill is almost more than his child support! !!!!! LOL So the big question, how much money is the child support order for? |
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"Lvnsurpriseaz" u37991@uwe wrote in message news:7935511ed41be@uwe... Bob, I appreciate what you are saying. It is regarding baseball tournaments which cost anywhere from $40 - $70. I feel that he should pay for the tournament fee if he wants his son to play in a tournament on his weekend. The thing is the father tries everyway possible to get out of paying for his responsibilities during the time he has visitation time. The child is 16 yrs old and believe me the childs food bill is almost more than his child support! !!!!! LOL Here's an NCP father's perspective - An extra $40-70 is a large amount. The CP has the legal responsibility to make decisions for a minor child regarding living arrangements, religious training, education, and medical treatments. As long as you make these decisions unilaterally you should pay for them. Even if the child's father approves of this activity that doesn't mean he should pay for it. Baseball tournaments are dictated by where the child lives and are an extracurricular activity related to education. I had some similar experiences. My ex would send the children over and tell me I needed to take them to soccer/basketball/baseball sign ups. I always insisted she give me a check, or send a check with the children, to cover the sign-up expenses. The same happened with birthday parties. I'd pick up the children and she would inform me I needed to take them to a friend's birthday party. That meant I needed to buy the birthday present for them to take to the party. I have always recommended to NCP's who come on this group to take a hard-nosed stance and insist the CP pay for all these miscellaneous expenses. The CP's complain the fathers won't pay for "extras" but the CS awards are predicated on child rearing expenditures that include all child related expenses so there are no extras. Well there are extras the NCP pays but those extras are the visitation related expenses he voluntarily chooses to make. |
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