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CS related licene suspension question...
I never respond to this stuff, but you know, I don't think taking a person's
license for failure to provide for his children is extreme. I have an ex who has not paid child support for years, may see his daughter whenever he wants, makes a great income, and cheats and steals his way through life. Taking his driver's license away seems a rather amusing way to wake him up. More I think about it, the more I like it. We teach our children that there are consequences to what we do. Perhaps, ex's who disregard the health and welfare of their children ought to be taught the same lesson. Pamela "Dusty" wrote in message ... I was wondering about this the other day... What if.. a state that a person had a CS order/issue with (but you didn't live there) could issue an order to another state (where you live) to suspend your drivers license? And if so, how is that legal? It seems to me to be an extreme step. To with-hold a person's "right" to drive (i.e.; get to work, the grocery store, see one's children, etc..) would be a gross violation of the a person's right to work and a whole host of other things. Think of it.. you wake up tomorrow morning and find that your license to drive is no more. How do you get to work? This would not be a big deal for someone living in a major city, public transportation is practically on every other street corner. But say, you don't live in a major (hell, even a minor) city and you commute several miles to get to work. What do you do then? The way I see it is kinda like this... You have your license suspended because CSE says you're in arrears of X amount, you need to drive 20 - 25 miles to get to work (maybe less, maybe more.. hell, maybe a lot more) and back. What do you do? Sure, you could ask a co-worker to drive an additional few miles to pick you up and drop you off - every day. But we all know that's gonna get old real fast. What can a person do, legally speaking, to fight this sort of thing (yeah, yeah, "get a lawyer")? You need to keep your job, so you can pay your CS, but you can't drive to get there so you're about to loose your job... forget taking cabs back and forth (because of the cost). And forget busses. Do you say "what the f*ck" and drive anyway? And what happens if you get caught driving without your license? What then, other then watch your car get towed to the impound lot, do you do? ------------------------------------------------------------ Eliminate the impossible and whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. ---- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle --- |
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CS related licene suspension question...
I never respond to this stuff, but you know, I don't think taking a person's
license for failure to provide for his children is extreme. I have an ex who has not paid child support for years, may see his daughter whenever he wants, makes a great income, and cheats and steals his way through life. Taking his driver's license away seems a rather amusing way to wake him up. More I think about it, the more I like it. We teach our children that there are consequences to what we do. Perhaps, ex's who disregard the health and welfare of their children ought to be taught the same lesson. Pamela "Dusty" wrote in message ... I was wondering about this the other day... What if.. a state that a person had a CS order/issue with (but you didn't live there) could issue an order to another state (where you live) to suspend your drivers license? And if so, how is that legal? It seems to me to be an extreme step. To with-hold a person's "right" to drive (i.e.; get to work, the grocery store, see one's children, etc..) would be a gross violation of the a person's right to work and a whole host of other things. Think of it.. you wake up tomorrow morning and find that your license to drive is no more. How do you get to work? This would not be a big deal for someone living in a major city, public transportation is practically on every other street corner. But say, you don't live in a major (hell, even a minor) city and you commute several miles to get to work. What do you do then? The way I see it is kinda like this... You have your license suspended because CSE says you're in arrears of X amount, you need to drive 20 - 25 miles to get to work (maybe less, maybe more.. hell, maybe a lot more) and back. What do you do? Sure, you could ask a co-worker to drive an additional few miles to pick you up and drop you off - every day. But we all know that's gonna get old real fast. What can a person do, legally speaking, to fight this sort of thing (yeah, yeah, "get a lawyer")? You need to keep your job, so you can pay your CS, but you can't drive to get there so you're about to loose your job... forget taking cabs back and forth (because of the cost). And forget busses. Do you say "what the f*ck" and drive anyway? And what happens if you get caught driving without your license? What then, other then watch your car get towed to the impound lot, do you do? ------------------------------------------------------------ Eliminate the impossible and whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. ---- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle --- |
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CS related licene suspension question...
I never respond to this stuff, but you know, I don't think taking a person's
license for failure to provide for his children is extreme. I have an ex who has not paid child support for years, may see his daughter whenever he wants, makes a great income, and cheats and steals his way through life. Taking his driver's license away seems a rather amusing way to wake him up. More I think about it, the more I like it. We teach our children that there are consequences to what we do. Perhaps, ex's who disregard the health and welfare of their children ought to be taught the same lesson. Pamela "Dusty" wrote in message ... I was wondering about this the other day... What if.. a state that a person had a CS order/issue with (but you didn't live there) could issue an order to another state (where you live) to suspend your drivers license? And if so, how is that legal? It seems to me to be an extreme step. To with-hold a person's "right" to drive (i.e.; get to work, the grocery store, see one's children, etc..) would be a gross violation of the a person's right to work and a whole host of other things. Think of it.. you wake up tomorrow morning and find that your license to drive is no more. How do you get to work? This would not be a big deal for someone living in a major city, public transportation is practically on every other street corner. But say, you don't live in a major (hell, even a minor) city and you commute several miles to get to work. What do you do then? The way I see it is kinda like this... You have your license suspended because CSE says you're in arrears of X amount, you need to drive 20 - 25 miles to get to work (maybe less, maybe more.. hell, maybe a lot more) and back. What do you do? Sure, you could ask a co-worker to drive an additional few miles to pick you up and drop you off - every day. But we all know that's gonna get old real fast. What can a person do, legally speaking, to fight this sort of thing (yeah, yeah, "get a lawyer")? You need to keep your job, so you can pay your CS, but you can't drive to get there so you're about to loose your job... forget taking cabs back and forth (because of the cost). And forget busses. Do you say "what the f*ck" and drive anyway? And what happens if you get caught driving without your license? What then, other then watch your car get towed to the impound lot, do you do? ------------------------------------------------------------ Eliminate the impossible and whatever remains, no matter how improbable, must be the truth. ---- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle --- |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Dusty" wrote in message ... "Editor - Child Support News" wrote in message ... In Virginia, the thieves want you to pay 5% of your outstanding arrearage... If you can't you can go to your local JDR Court and request a restricted license...when I did that, the judge let me drive 24/7/365 after telling me that if I stoof before him in a contempt hearing, I'd be placed UNDER his jail...fortunately my case is in another jurisdiction -- albeit with the judges just as corrupt. OK, but which state would you go to for this "restricted" license? The one where you owe the CS to or the license issuing state? Could you just bring it to them, the legal question that is? Or would you need to wait for them to start something first? What gets me is that one state can tell another to enforce it's own orders. As I understand it, they can't (usually) do that. Your opinion is trumped by The Constitution. U.S. Constitution - Article IV Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Dusty" wrote in message ... "Editor - Child Support News" wrote in message ... In Virginia, the thieves want you to pay 5% of your outstanding arrearage... If you can't you can go to your local JDR Court and request a restricted license...when I did that, the judge let me drive 24/7/365 after telling me that if I stoof before him in a contempt hearing, I'd be placed UNDER his jail...fortunately my case is in another jurisdiction -- albeit with the judges just as corrupt. OK, but which state would you go to for this "restricted" license? The one where you owe the CS to or the license issuing state? Could you just bring it to them, the legal question that is? Or would you need to wait for them to start something first? What gets me is that one state can tell another to enforce it's own orders. As I understand it, they can't (usually) do that. Your opinion is trumped by The Constitution. U.S. Constitution - Article IV Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Dusty" wrote in message ... "Editor - Child Support News" wrote in message ... In Virginia, the thieves want you to pay 5% of your outstanding arrearage... If you can't you can go to your local JDR Court and request a restricted license...when I did that, the judge let me drive 24/7/365 after telling me that if I stoof before him in a contempt hearing, I'd be placed UNDER his jail...fortunately my case is in another jurisdiction -- albeit with the judges just as corrupt. OK, but which state would you go to for this "restricted" license? The one where you owe the CS to or the license issuing state? Could you just bring it to them, the legal question that is? Or would you need to wait for them to start something first? What gets me is that one state can tell another to enforce it's own orders. As I understand it, they can't (usually) do that. Your opinion is trumped by The Constitution. U.S. Constitution - Article IV Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Dusty" wrote in message ... "Editor - Child Support News" wrote in message ... In Virginia, the thieves want you to pay 5% of your outstanding arrearage... If you can't you can go to your local JDR Court and request a restricted license...when I did that, the judge let me drive 24/7/365 after telling me that if I stoof before him in a contempt hearing, I'd be placed UNDER his jail...fortunately my case is in another jurisdiction -- albeit with the judges just as corrupt. OK, but which state would you go to for this "restricted" license? The one where you owe the CS to or the license issuing state? Could you just bring it to them, the legal question that is? Or would you need to wait for them to start something first? What gets me is that one state can tell another to enforce it's own orders. As I understand it, they can't (usually) do that. Your opinion is trumped by The Constitution. U.S. Constitution - Article IV Full faith and credit shall be given in each state to the public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state. |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Pamela" wrote in message hlink.net... I never respond to this stuff, but you know, I don't think taking a person's license for failure to provide for his children is extreme. I have an ex who has not paid child support for years, may see his daughter whenever he wants, makes a great income, and cheats and steals his way through life. Taking his driver's license away seems a rather amusing way to wake him up. More I think about it, the more I like it. We teach our children that there are consequences to what we do. Perhaps, ex's who disregard the health and welfare of their children ought to be taught the same lesson. I got a huge lesson in what children think about these types of legal proceedings against fathers from my daughter. Her mother tried to tell her all the bad stuff happening to her dad was created by the state. My daughter was very direct in telling her mom, the reason the state is taking those actions against dad is because you ask them to do it. The mothers who hide behind the state's legal processes just don't get how much the children understand about the process. |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Pamela" wrote in message hlink.net... I never respond to this stuff, but you know, I don't think taking a person's license for failure to provide for his children is extreme. I have an ex who has not paid child support for years, may see his daughter whenever he wants, makes a great income, and cheats and steals his way through life. Taking his driver's license away seems a rather amusing way to wake him up. More I think about it, the more I like it. We teach our children that there are consequences to what we do. Perhaps, ex's who disregard the health and welfare of their children ought to be taught the same lesson. I got a huge lesson in what children think about these types of legal proceedings against fathers from my daughter. Her mother tried to tell her all the bad stuff happening to her dad was created by the state. My daughter was very direct in telling her mom, the reason the state is taking those actions against dad is because you ask them to do it. The mothers who hide behind the state's legal processes just don't get how much the children understand about the process. |
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CS related licene suspension question...
"Pamela" wrote in message hlink.net... I never respond to this stuff, but you know, I don't think taking a person's license for failure to provide for his children is extreme. I have an ex who has not paid child support for years, may see his daughter whenever he wants, makes a great income, and cheats and steals his way through life. Taking his driver's license away seems a rather amusing way to wake him up. More I think about it, the more I like it. We teach our children that there are consequences to what we do. Perhaps, ex's who disregard the health and welfare of their children ought to be taught the same lesson. I got a huge lesson in what children think about these types of legal proceedings against fathers from my daughter. Her mother tried to tell her all the bad stuff happening to her dad was created by the state. My daughter was very direct in telling her mom, the reason the state is taking those actions against dad is because you ask them to do it. The mothers who hide behind the state's legal processes just don't get how much the children understand about the process. |
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