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Final Exam, 8th Grade, 1895
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Final Exam, 8th Grade, 1895
here@home (Unqualified Affirmative Action Prince) wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:02:52 GMT, toto wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:33:30 GMT, (Way Back Jack) wrote: On Sat, 20 Sep 2008 16:17:08 GMT, toto wrote: These questions don't reflect knowledge that people need today. Yeah, they reflect the basics of math, grammar, effective communication skills, and other non-essentials not found in today's schools of self-esteem. No they don't reflect these at all. There is nothing on the exam that shows communication skills except for one essay which is graded on grammar. There is little real mathematics on the exam. All of the problems involve memorized conversion factors. The grammar questions are memorized rules many of which are outdated. People don't need those tools today. They don't need the answers to the questions on this exam, Jack Understanding the basics of grammar is of prime importance. I saw college-educated individuals enter the work force, unable to formulate a sentence much less a cogent paragraph. The job requirements included the composition of quasi-legal paragraphs that could not be interpreted ambiguously, but the recruits produced run-on, rambling sentences without any punctuation. Disgusting. But just knowing the rules doesn't mean that they can apply them does it? In order to learn to write, you have to write, and write, and write and write. Most schools just don't have the personnel available to grade the papers that would be required. As for math, we've heard the horror tales of college kids unable to balance a checkbook. So? Balancing a checkbook wasn't on that test. It really requires knowing more than just the math facts and what the operations are called. |
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Final Exam, 8th Grade, 1895
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:46:10 GMT, here@home (Unqualified Affirmative
Action Prince) wrote: Understanding the basics of grammar is of prime importance. I saw college-educated individuals enter the work force, unable to formulate a sentence much less a cogent paragraph. The job requirements included the composition of quasi-legal paragraphs that could not be interpreted ambiguously, but the recruits produced run-on, rambling sentences without any punctuation. Disgusting. Yes, but memorizing the *rules* does not make a student better at writing. What does that is writing and being graded on both grammar and cogency of your argument. As for math, we've heard the horror tales of college kids unable to balance a checkbook. I knew one - she was from Saudi Arabia. She also ignored bank statements and notices that her account was overdrawn. -- Dorothy There is no sound, no cry in all the world that can be heard unless someone listens .. The Outer Limits |
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Final Exam, 8th Grade, 1895
On Tue, 30 Sep 2008 20:30:39 GMT, toto wrote:
On Wed, 24 Sep 2008 19:46:10 GMT, here@home (Unqualified Affirmative Action Prince) wrote: Understanding the basics of grammar is of prime importance. I saw college-educated individuals enter the work force, unable to formulate a sentence much less a cogent paragraph. The job requirements included the composition of quasi-legal paragraphs that could not be interpreted ambiguously, but the recruits produced run-on, rambling sentences without any punctuation. Disgusting. Yes, but memorizing the *rules* does not make a student better at writing. What does that is writing and being graded on both grammar and cogency of your argument. It all starts with grammar and sentence structure. Grammar has rules. As for math, we've heard the horror tales of college kids unable to balance a checkbook. I knew one - she was from Saudi Arabia. She also ignored bank statements and notices that her account was overdrawn. See. |
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