You are a damn idiot.

Kehly Reynolds wrote:

How can you think that killing something that has no say, never has
commited a wrong doing, or hasnt even taken a breath yet is ok?
------------------------
It is like breaking a rock into fragments to make gravel, a thing
with no mind is just like that, it can be used for anything without
concern of harming anyone in doing it. That is the difference between
a thing of with NO mind and something WITH a mind, the former is used
while the latter is the User!!


How is it not a violation of human rights?
----------------------
This is how, listen!:

If we were fresh in this reality we would ask: "How can we tell the
difference between something that has a mind in it and something that
does NOT?" And we would discover that we were pressed by our needs to
decide, for we are bound to use something of this world that is NOT us
for our very food, and so primarily we would be sure that OUR kind
must be the only thing that matters to us, because we can indeed argue
all day, but we will not discover if a rock or a bird, or a dog or a
goat has a mind, instead we will simply starve to death waiting for
an answer. Sure, we can do without meat, but our lives would be mean,
filthy, hungry, poorly fed, and dependent on crops that fail, and all
the while none of these other things has the brains to even ask us
what is the matter, or speak to us and say: "Don't kill us, for we
are aware like you!", instead they go "Moooo!" or such, and these
animals attempt nothing but their reflexes. If they are aware, then
they are obtuse and we are idiots for NOT eating them if they don't
SAY anything intelligent to us!!! Can you even imagine BEING something
that does not think ideas? I cannot, and I assert that they do NOT
exist as we exist, that it is okay to kill them and eat them.

NOW, what about our young? When do THEY become like us!?????? When do
THEY GROW a Mind, or when is it that a Mind comes to dwell within them??

Again we have to decide when a baby is dead, or when it goes from the
non-existing animal world to our world. Ah, but THIS question is one
that WE *CAN* actually KNOW THE ANSWER TO!!!!! Why? Because our body
HAS BEEN a zygote, and embryo, and a fetus, and if "WE" WERE any such
being that thinks about its existence in that form then WE SHOULD be
able to remember doing that!! Why? Because Self-Awareness REQUIRES
Memory to recall from moment to monent that it exists and its State
of its Awareness!!!! And if we cannot recall being a fetus, or any
lesser state, then it means that *WE* WERE *NOT* THER YET!!!!!!!!!

We cannot even remember our birth, and our Cognitive Researchers
have concluded that the infant before 2 to 4 months does NOT EVEN
HAVE A "SELF" that tells its Self the ongoing story called "Its Life",
and THAT MEANS NOBODY IS HOME YET!! Yes, babies look cute, but it's
because we EVOLVED to think they look nice and we EVOLVED for their
form to make us want to protect and cuddle them, but that is US and
OUR reflexes, that SAYS NOTHING about what a newborn ITSELF is,
which is much more surely a non-thinking automatic biomachine that is
prograsmmed to await its occupant when They arrive/come into being, a
couple months LATER!! BUT THEY HAVE NO SELF-AWARE BEING WITHIN THEM!!

This is the ONLY way to make sense of what we DON'T remember and what
we all know about out own Self and how and when the thing called "ME"
comes to be!! "WE" were never a fetus, we didn't exist then or else
we WOULD REMEMBER fetal life accurately, and THAT has NEVER been
experienced, lied about by liars perhsps to win bets, perhaps, but
nothing else. NO one who is being honest HAS EVER asserted that they
recall being a newborn, let alone a fetus! And this Self-Awareness we
call "me", to ourselves, that IS the ONLY thing worth defending, the
rest is merely objects in its world, things, in other words, its
dominion!


For the longest time I thought
Abortion is ok, id have one if it came down to it, but after reading
the stories from all the people who have been in the rooms with the
doctors as abortions are taking place, i relized that no, I couldnt
make something I created suffer like that.
-----------------
Those are merely reflexes, not "suffering", because it takes a "Me"
to suffer, and if the human fetus had one, it would remember existing
in utero in its later human Life, and NOBODY recalls that!


People look upon new-born
babies with such love and affection, so why does a embryo thats only 4
months, 2 months, maybe even a week short of being born looked upon
like its just a mass of tisue, like its not a gift?
-----------------------------------
Because it *IS* just a mass of tissue, sure it's yet a gift, but it
is NOT one that we cannot refuse for a time, and avail ourselves of
it when we wish!! And as I said, humans are IN CONTROL, and rightfully,
because WE are the ONLY ONES with Our Kind of Self-Awareness that
is aware of its own LifeTime as a Story it tells itself, modeling
its own existence in a thing called a Mind! Without a Mind, if any
something exists and reacts, it never knows it as a Being Living a
Lifetime, it is unremembered, unremarked, not valued, not feared as
WE with Minds fear! NOT suffered as those with Minds Do Suffer. And
thus it isn't important enough to concern us over and against OUR Life
and its Importance to US!!


Why dont you quit pretending to be so liberal and look at exactly
what your promoting.
-----------------
YOU don't GET IT! *I* *AM* a Liberal, and THAT MEANS that I'm in FAVOR
of the defense of the rights of women to control their bodies as THEY
wish so that they are NOT enslaved by their automatic organs in
pregnancy!! If we demand that a human fetus gets to HIJACK a woman's
body whenever it pleases, then we are violating HER right to control
her body in a way we do NOT require of MEN!! We NEVER require men to
give blood or surrender their organs to the State or the use of them,
just because someone else MIGHT need them, and those are Self-Aware
Human Beings who might need them, while a fetus is NOT EVEN Self-Aware
or a Being yet, so the burden on her would be even HIGHER, BUT for
LESS CAUSE!!!

And IF we started requiring ANYONE to surrender their organs, then we
head down that slippery slope of the "greatest good for the greatest
number" where someone can be terminated to give their organs to anyone
more popular, or whom the State likes better - anyone can be kidnapped
and their body enslaved to transfuse somebody they State says needs
you, and be kept drugged and semi-conscious, hooked up with tubes to
your bloodstream for months or years until they heal or have their
organs cleaned and restored for them courtesy of your forced sacrifice
or YOUR Life and Health!! How many ways do I *HAVE* to say it to show
you that it is something YOU DO NOT WANT TO PERMIT!!!!

And yet that State Ordered Enslavement is EXACTLY what we do to Women
if we don't permit them to terminate ANY pregnancy they WISH TO!!!
THAT IS WHY I'm a Liberal, and a Communist who is STRONGLY IN FAVOR
of the Right to Abortion! You see, the Right to Abortion is the same
as your Right to kill a fungus on your own body so that your body is
not HIJACKED BY IT!

And also, NO fetus is a EVEN AN AWARE BEING YET, *BUT* WE *ARE*, so
WE, ANY OF US, ARE SIMPLY MORE IMPORTANT!!!
Steve

R. Steve Walz wrote:

Kehly Reynolds wrote:

How can you think that killing something that has no say, never has
commited a wrong doing, or hasnt even taken a breath yet is ok?
------------------------
It is like breaking a rock into fragments to make gravel, a thing
with no mind is just like that, it can be used for anything without
concern of harming anyone in doing it. That is the difference between
a thing of with NO mind and something WITH a mind, the former is used
while the latter is the User!!

How is it not a violation of human rights?
----------------------
This is how, listen!:

If we were fresh in this reality we would ask: "How can we tell the
difference between something that has a mind in it and something that
does NOT?" And we would discover that we were pressed by our needs to
decide, for we are bound to use something of this world that is NOT us
for our very food, and so primarily we would be sure that OUR kind
must be the only thing that matters to us, because we can indeed argue
all day, but we will not discover if a rock or a bird, or a dog or a
goat has a mind, instead we will simply starve to death waiting for
an answer. Sure, we can do without meat, but our lives would be mean,
filthy, hungry, poorly fed, and dependent on crops that fail, and all
the while none of these other things has the brains to even ask us
what is the matter, or speak to us and say: "Don't kill us, for we
are aware like you!", instead they go "Moooo!" or such, and these
animals attempt nothing but their reflexes. If they are aware, then
they are obtuse and we are idiots for NOT eating them if they don't
SAY anything intelligent to us!!! Can you even imagine BEING something
that does not think ideas? I cannot, and I assert that they do NOT
exist as we exist, that it is okay to kill them and eat them.

NOW, what about our young? When do THEY become like us!?????? When do
THEY GROW a Mind, or when is it that a Mind comes to dwell within them??

Again we have to decide when a baby is dead, or when it goes from the
non-existing animal world to our world. Ah, but THIS question is one
that WE *CAN* actually KNOW THE ANSWER TO!!!!! Why? Because our body
HAS BEEN a zygote, and embryo, and a fetus, and if "WE" WERE any such
being that thinks about its existence in that form then WE SHOULD be
able to remember doing that!! Why? Because Self-Awareness REQUIRES
Memory to recall from moment to monent that it exists and its State
of its Awareness!!!! And if we cannot recall being a fetus, or any
lesser state, then it means that *WE* WERE *NOT* THER YET!!!!!!!!!

We cannot even remember our birth, and our Cognitive Researchers
have concluded that the infant before 2 to 4 months does NOT EVEN
HAVE A "SELF" that tells its Self the ongoing story called "Its Life",
and THAT MEANS NOBODY IS HOME YET!! Yes, babies look cute, but it's
because we EVOLVED to think they look nice and we EVOLVED for their
form to make us want to protect and cuddle them, but that is US and
OUR reflexes, that SAYS NOTHING about what a newborn ITSELF is,
which is much more surely a non-thinking automatic biomachine that is
prograsmmed to await its occupant when They arrive/come into being, a
couple months LATER!! BUT THEY HAVE NO SELF-AWARE BEING WITHIN THEM!!

This is the ONLY way to make sense of what we DON'T remember and what
we all know about out own Self and how and when the thing called "ME"
comes to be!! "WE" were never a fetus, we didn't exist then or else
we WOULD REMEMBER fetal life accurately, and THAT has NEVER been
experienced, lied about by liars perhsps to win bets, perhaps, but
nothing else. NO one who is being honest HAS EVER asserted that they
recall being a newborn, let alone a fetus! And this Self-Awareness we
call "me", to ourselves, that IS the ONLY thing worth defending, the
rest is merely objects in its world, things, in other words, its
dominion!

For the longest time I thought
Abortion is ok, id have one if it came down to it, but after reading
the stories from all the people who have been in the rooms with the
doctors as abortions are taking place, i relized that no, I couldnt
make something I created suffer like that.
-----------------
Those are merely reflexes, not "suffering", because it takes a "Me"
to suffer, and if the human fetus had one, it would remember existing
in utero in its later human Life, and NOBODY recalls that!

People look upon new-born
babies with such love and affection, so why does a embryo thats only 4
months, 2 months, maybe even a week short of being born looked upon
like its just a mass of tisue, like its not a gift?
-----------------------------------
Because it *IS* just a mass of tissue, sure it's yet a gift, but it
is NOT one that we cannot refuse for a time, and avail ourselves of
it when we wish!! And as I said, humans are IN CONTROL, and rightfully,
because WE are the ONLY ONES with Our Kind of Self-Awareness that
is aware of its own LifeTime as a Story it tells itself, modeling
its own existence in a thing called a Mind! Without a Mind, if any
something exists and reacts, it never knows it as a Being Living a
Lifetime, it is unremembered, unremarked, not valued, not feared as
WE with Minds fear! NOT suffered as those with Minds Do Suffer. And
thus it isn't important enough to concern us over and against OUR Life
and its Importance to US!!

Why dont you quit pretending to be so liberal and look at exactly
what your promoting.
-----------------
YOU don't GET IT! *I* *AM* a Liberal, and THAT MEANS that I'm in FAVOR
of the defense of the rights of women to control their bodies as THEY
wish so that they are NOT enslaved by their automatic organs in
pregnancy!! If we demand that a human fetus gets to HIJACK a woman's
body whenever it pleases, then we are violating HER right to control
her body in a way we do NOT require of MEN!! We NEVER require men to
give blood or surrender their organs to the State or the use of them,
just because someone else MIGHT need them, and those are Self-Aware
Human Beings who might need them, while a fetus is NOT EVEN Self-Aware
or a Being yet, so the burden on her would be even HIGHER, BUT for
LESS CAUSE!!!

And IF we started requiring ANYONE to surrender their organs, then we
head down that slippery slope of the "greatest good for the greatest
number" where someone can be terminated to give their organs to anyone
more popular, or whom the State likes better - anyone can be kidnapped
and their body enslaved to transfuse somebody they State says needs
you, and be kept drugged and semi-conscious, hooked up with tubes to
your bloodstream for months or years until they heal or have their
organs cleaned and restored for them courtesy of your forced sacrifice
or YOUR Life and Health!! How many ways do I *HAVE* to say it to show
you that it is something YOU DO NOT WANT TO PERMIT!!!!

And yet that State Ordered Enslavement is EXACTLY what we do to Women
if we don't permit them to terminate ANY pregnancy they WISH TO!!!
THAT IS WHY I'm a Liberal, and a Communist who is STRONGLY IN FAVOR
of the Right to Abortion! You see, the Right to Abortion is the same
as your Right to kill a fungus on your own body so that your body is
not HIJACKED BY IT!

And also, NO fetus is a EVEN AN AWARE BEING YET, *BUT* WE *ARE*, so
WE, ANY OF US, ARE SIMPLY MORE IMPORTANT!!!
Steve

Forgive me for saying this. I was getting carried away by returning to my
old selfish ways.

Sorry everyone...

Steve
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
...
Kehly Reynolds wrote:

How can you think that killing something that has no say, never has
commited a wrong doing, or hasnt even taken a breath yet is ok?
------------------------
It is like breaking a rock into fragments to make gravel, a thing
with no mind is just like that, it can be used for anything without
concern of harming anyone in doing it. That is the difference between
a thing of with NO mind and something WITH a mind, the former is used
while the latter is the User!!


How is it not a violation of human rights?
----------------------
This is how, listen!:

If we were fresh in this reality we would ask: "How can we tell the
difference between something that has a mind in it and something that
does NOT?" And we would discover that we were pressed by our needs to
decide, for we are bound to use something of this world that is NOT us
for our very food, and so primarily we would be sure that OUR kind
must be the only thing that matters to us, because we can indeed argue
all day, but we will not discover if a rock or a bird, or a dog or a
goat has a mind, instead we will simply starve to death waiting for
an answer. Sure, we can do without meat, but our lives would be mean,
filthy, hungry, poorly fed, and dependent on crops that fail, and all
the while none of these other things has the brains to even ask us
what is the matter, or speak to us and say: "Don't kill us, for we
are aware like you!", instead they go "Moooo!" or such, and these
animals attempt nothing but their reflexes. If they are aware, then
they are obtuse and we are idiots for NOT eating them if they don't
SAY anything intelligent to us!!! Can you even imagine BEING something
that does not think ideas? I cannot, and I assert that they do NOT
exist as we exist, that it is okay to kill them and eat them.

NOW, what about our young? When do THEY become like us!?????? When do
THEY GROW a Mind, or when is it that a Mind comes to dwell within them??

Again we have to decide when a baby is dead, or when it goes from the
non-existing animal world to our world. Ah, but THIS question is one
that WE *CAN* actually KNOW THE ANSWER TO!!!!! Why? Because our body
HAS BEEN a zygote, and embryo, and a fetus, and if "WE" WERE any such
being that thinks about its existence in that form then WE SHOULD be
able to remember doing that!! Why? Because Self-Awareness REQUIRES
Memory to recall from moment to monent that it exists and its State
of its Awareness!!!! And if we cannot recall being a fetus, or any
lesser state, then it means that *WE* WERE *NOT* THER YET!!!!!!!!!

We cannot even remember our birth, and our Cognitive Researchers
have concluded that the infant before 2 to 4 months does NOT EVEN
HAVE A "SELF" that tells its Self the ongoing story called "Its Life",
and THAT MEANS NOBODY IS HOME YET!! Yes, babies look cute, but it's
because we EVOLVED to think they look nice and we EVOLVED for their
form to make us want to protect and cuddle them, but that is US and
OUR reflexes, that SAYS NOTHING about what a newborn ITSELF is,
which is much more surely a non-thinking automatic biomachine that is
prograsmmed to await its occupant when They arrive/come into being, a
couple months LATER!! BUT THEY HAVE NO SELF-AWARE BEING WITHIN THEM!!

This is the ONLY way to make sense of what we DON'T remember and what
we all know about out own Self and how and when the thing called "ME"
comes to be!! "WE" were never a fetus, we didn't exist then or else
we WOULD REMEMBER fetal life accurately, and THAT has NEVER been
experienced, lied about by liars perhsps to win bets, perhaps, but
nothing else. NO one who is being honest HAS EVER asserted that they
recall being a newborn, let alone a fetus! And this Self-Awareness we
call "me", to ourselves, that IS the ONLY thing worth defending, the
rest is merely objects in its world, things, in other words, its
dominion!


For the longest time I thought
Abortion is ok, id have one if it came down to it, but after reading
the stories from all the people who have been in the rooms with the
doctors as abortions are taking place, i relized that no, I couldnt
make something I created suffer like that.
-----------------
Those are merely reflexes, not "suffering", because it takes a "Me"
to suffer, and if the human fetus had one, it would remember existing
in utero in its later human Life, and NOBODY recalls that!


People look upon new-born
babies with such love and affection, so why does a embryo thats only 4
months, 2 months, maybe even a week short of being born looked upon
like its just a mass of tisue, like its not a gift?
-----------------------------------
Because it *IS* just a mass of tissue, sure it's yet a gift, but it
is NOT one that we cannot refuse for a time, and avail ourselves of
it when we wish!! And as I said, humans are IN CONTROL, and rightfully,
because WE are the ONLY ONES with Our Kind of Self-Awareness that
is aware of its own LifeTime as a Story it tells itself, modeling
its own existence in a thing called a Mind! Without a Mind, if any
something exists and reacts, it never knows it as a Being Living a
Lifetime, it is unremembered, unremarked, not valued, not feared as
WE with Minds fear! NOT suffered as those with Minds Do Suffer. And
thus it isn't important enough to concern us over and against OUR Life
and its Importance to US!!


Why dont you quit pretending to be so liberal and look at exactly
what your promoting.
-----------------
YOU don't GET IT! *I* *AM* a Liberal, and THAT MEANS that I'm in FAVOR
of the defense of the rights of women to control their bodies as THEY
wish so that they are NOT enslaved by their automatic organs in
pregnancy!! If we demand that a human fetus gets to HIJACK a woman's
body whenever it pleases, then we are violating HER right to control
her body in a way we do NOT require of MEN!! We NEVER require men to
give blood or surrender their organs to the State or the use of them,
just because someone else MIGHT need them, and those are Self-Aware
Human Beings who might need them, while a fetus is NOT EVEN Self-Aware
or a Being yet, so the burden on her would be even HIGHER, BUT for
LESS CAUSE!!!

And IF we started requiring ANYONE to surrender their organs, then we
head down that slippery slope of the "greatest good for the greatest
number" where someone can be terminated to give their organs to anyone
more popular, or whom the State likes better - anyone can be kidnapped
and their body enslaved to transfuse somebody they State says needs
you, and be kept drugged and semi-conscious, hooked up with tubes to
your bloodstream for months or years until they heal or have their
organs cleaned and restored for them courtesy of your forced sacrifice
or YOUR Life and Health!! How many ways do I *HAVE* to say it to show
you that it is something YOU DO NOT WANT TO PERMIT!!!!

And yet that State Ordered Enslavement is EXACTLY what we do to Women
if we don't permit them to terminate ANY pregnancy they WISH TO!!!
THAT IS WHY I'm a Liberal, and a Communist who is STRONGLY IN FAVOR
of the Right to Abortion! You see, the Right to Abortion is the same
as your Right to kill a fungus on your own body so that your body is
not HIJACKED BY IT!

And also, NO fetus is a EVEN AN AWARE BEING YET, *BUT* WE *ARE*, so
WE, ANY OF US, ARE SIMPLY MORE IMPORTANT!!!
Steve

R. Steve Walz wrote:

Forgive me for saying this. I was getting carried away by returning to my
old selfish ways.

Sorry everyone...

Steve
------------
So sayeth the lying Diaper Boy John Wolf pretending to be me.
Steve


"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
...
Kehly Reynolds wrote:

How can you think that killing something that has no say, never has
commited a wrong doing, or hasnt even taken a breath yet is ok?
------------------------
It is like breaking a rock into fragments to make gravel, a thing
with no mind is just like that, it can be used for anything without
concern of harming anyone in doing it. That is the difference between
a thing of with NO mind and something WITH a mind, the former is used
while the latter is the User!!


How is it not a violation of human rights?
----------------------
This is how, listen!:

If we were fresh in this reality we would ask: "How can we tell the
difference between something that has a mind in it and something that
does NOT?" And we would discover that we were pressed by our needs to
decide, for we are bound to use something of this world that is NOT us
for our very food, and so primarily we would be sure that OUR kind
must be the only thing that matters to us, because we can indeed argue
all day, but we will not discover if a rock or a bird, or a dog or a
goat has a mind, instead we will simply starve to death waiting for
an answer. Sure, we can do without meat, but our lives would be mean,
filthy, hungry, poorly fed, and dependent on crops that fail, and all
the while none of these other things has the brains to even ask us
what is the matter, or speak to us and say: "Don't kill us, for we
are aware like you!", instead they go "Moooo!" or such, and these
animals attempt nothing but their reflexes. If they are aware, then
they are obtuse and we are idiots for NOT eating them if they don't
SAY anything intelligent to us!!! Can you even imagine BEING something
that does not think ideas? I cannot, and I assert that they do NOT
exist as we exist, that it is okay to kill them and eat them.

NOW, what about our young? When do THEY become like us!?????? When do
THEY GROW a Mind, or when is it that a Mind comes to dwell within them??

Again we have to decide when a baby is dead, or when it goes from the
non-existing animal world to our world. Ah, but THIS question is one
that WE *CAN* actually KNOW THE ANSWER TO!!!!! Why? Because our body
HAS BEEN a zygote, and embryo, and a fetus, and if "WE" WERE any such
being that thinks about its existence in that form then WE SHOULD be
able to remember doing that!! Why? Because Self-Awareness REQUIRES
Memory to recall from moment to monent that it exists and its State
of its Awareness!!!! And if we cannot recall being a fetus, or any
lesser state, then it means that *WE* WERE *NOT* THER YET!!!!!!!!!

We cannot even remember our birth, and our Cognitive Researchers
have concluded that the infant before 2 to 4 months does NOT EVEN
HAVE A "SELF" that tells its Self the ongoing story called "Its Life",
and THAT MEANS NOBODY IS HOME YET!! Yes, babies look cute, but it's
because we EVOLVED to think they look nice and we EVOLVED for their
form to make us want to protect and cuddle them, but that is US and
OUR reflexes, that SAYS NOTHING about what a newborn ITSELF is,
which is much more surely a non-thinking automatic biomachine that is
prograsmmed to await its occupant when They arrive/come into being, a
couple months LATER!! BUT THEY HAVE NO SELF-AWARE BEING WITHIN THEM!!

This is the ONLY way to make sense of what we DON'T remember and what
we all know about out own Self and how and when the thing called "ME"
comes to be!! "WE" were never a fetus, we didn't exist then or else
we WOULD REMEMBER fetal life accurately, and THAT has NEVER been
experienced, lied about by liars perhsps to win bets, perhaps, but
nothing else. NO one who is being honest HAS EVER asserted that they
recall being a newborn, let alone a fetus! And this Self-Awareness we
call "me", to ourselves, that IS the ONLY thing worth defending, the
rest is merely objects in its world, things, in other words, its
dominion!


For the longest time I thought
Abortion is ok, id have one if it came down to it, but after reading
the stories from all the people who have been in the rooms with the
doctors as abortions are taking place, i relized that no, I couldnt
make something I created suffer like that.
-----------------
Those are merely reflexes, not "suffering", because it takes a "Me"
to suffer, and if the human fetus had one, it would remember existing
in utero in its later human Life, and NOBODY recalls that!


People look upon new-born
babies with such love and affection, so why does a embryo thats only 4
months, 2 months, maybe even a week short of being born looked upon
like its just a mass of tisue, like its not a gift?
-----------------------------------
Because it *IS* just a mass of tissue, sure it's yet a gift, but it
is NOT one that we cannot refuse for a time, and avail ourselves of
it when we wish!! And as I said, humans are IN CONTROL, and rightfully,
because WE are the ONLY ONES with Our Kind of Self-Awareness that
is aware of its own LifeTime as a Story it tells itself, modeling
its own existence in a thing called a Mind! Without a Mind, if any
something exists and reacts, it never knows it as a Being Living a
Lifetime, it is unremembered, unremarked, not valued, not feared as
WE with Minds fear! NOT suffered as those with Minds Do Suffer. And
thus it isn't important enough to concern us over and against OUR Life
and its Importance to US!!


Why dont you quit pretending to be so liberal and look at exactly
what your promoting.
-----------------
YOU don't GET IT! *I* *AM* a Liberal, and THAT MEANS that I'm in FAVOR
of the defense of the rights of women to control their bodies as THEY
wish so that they are NOT enslaved by their automatic organs in
pregnancy!! If we demand that a human fetus gets to HIJACK a woman's
body whenever it pleases, then we are violating HER right to control
her body in a way we do NOT require of MEN!! We NEVER require men to
give blood or surrender their organs to the State or the use of them,
just because someone else MIGHT need them, and those are Self-Aware
Human Beings who might need them, while a fetus is NOT EVEN Self-Aware
or a Being yet, so the burden on her would be even HIGHER, BUT for
LESS CAUSE!!!

And IF we started requiring ANYONE to surrender their organs, then we
head down that slippery slope of the "greatest good for the greatest
number" where someone can be terminated to give their organs to anyone
more popular, or whom the State likes better - anyone can be kidnapped
and their body enslaved to transfuse somebody they State says needs
you, and be kept drugged and semi-conscious, hooked up with tubes to
your bloodstream for months or years until they heal or have their
organs cleaned and restored for them courtesy of your forced sacrifice
or YOUR Life and Health!! How many ways do I *HAVE* to say it to show
you that it is something YOU DO NOT WANT TO PERMIT!!!!

And yet that State Ordered Enslavement is EXACTLY what we do to Women
if we don't permit them to terminate ANY pregnancy they WISH TO!!!
THAT IS WHY I'm a Liberal, and a Communist who is STRONGLY IN FAVOR
of the Right to Abortion! You see, the Right to Abortion is the same
as your Right to kill a fungus on your own body so that your body is
not HIJACKED BY IT!

And also, NO fetus is a EVEN AN AWARE BEING YET, *BUT* WE *ARE*, so
WE, ANY OF US, ARE SIMPLY MORE IMPORTANT!!!
Steve