The year of the binder

Nic nlmilesatoptushomedotcomdotaunospam wrote in message
On the public primary school enrollment form....."What amount of money do
you earn per year ?"

What differance does it make to my childs education is what I would like
to
know? I asked a few if I can leave it blank to be told "no we carn't
enroll
her unless the whole form is filled in".... ummmm does this mean I can lie
?

Or the other one is what religion would you like us to teach her ?

I have never seen those kinds of questions in all of my life in public
school. I think it is illegal. What kind of school are you applying for? It
has to be a private school or something.
--
Sue
mom to three girls

Rosalie B. wrote:

As for not being able to use it the next year - IME these things don't
last longer than a year. The idea that one would use a folder for
longer is a complete pipe dream.

grandma Rosalie


I don't think Marjorie was talking about a folder, but a
canvas-type binder that zips around the side. My 7 year-old is using
hers (I think it's a 3-inch one) for the 2nd year, and I don't see any
reason it shouldn't last for several years. They are handy for keeping
stuff from spilling out all over the place, but 11 has gone way beyond
over the top.

Clisby

All of this seems to make some really good arguments for HOMESCHOOLING!

chiam margalit wrote:

So.... what stupid things are YOUR schools doing this year that are
driving you nuts?

Marjorie


This was actually about my best year ever for not having to
make the rounds of stores for esoteric supplies. I wanted
to kiss my older dd's 5th grade team for just buying the
d*%n folders and asking for reimbursement.

There is of course the exception of the reusable fabric book
cover needed for a new textbook. I just know my father is
rolling in his grave over spending good money on a book cover.

Lesley

(chiam margalit) wrote in message . com...
I know school supplies come in fads, and I'm well aware that what was
necessary last year may not be wanted this year but.....

This year teachers in our middle school seemed to have outlawed the
large binder. Last year you HAD to have a zippered binder, 3".

I don't have a middle school child, but I think I know the binders
you're talking about. They're HUGE and the look expensive. I saw a
school-related news story on TV the other day in which all of the
children in a classroom had those monsters on their desks.

So.... what stupid things are YOUR schools doing this year that are
driving you nuts?

Our supply list was issued last year, which I just loved, loved,
loved. Actually, it was ONE sheet of paper, copied front and back with
ALL of the grades in this school and their lists! Wowsa!

And there wasn't really anything too unreasonable on them except that
I always think it's odd that they want us to supply the school with
paper towels, tissues and even paper plates, cups and napkins. Oh
well. Cheap enough stuff, I guess.

The only thing that has bothered me so far is that of course both of
my children were required to bring in folders - unmarked, no
characters printed on them, solid colors only - which is fine with me.
In the past years a folder has been used to transfer papers to and
from home. This year, my daughter (kindy) has been issued a zip-loc
bag for papers. Weird!

She was asked to bring those bags to school, too. I had no idea they
were for transferring homework assignments.

- Bev

I'm in the classroom enough that I know when things are starting to get low.
She loses things and is not very organized to keep her stuff together. It
works better that I am in the classroom and can take a peek at what she
needs.
--
Sue
mom to three girls

Naomi Pardue wrote in message
...
I bought a
school box for Kara and put one glue stick, one roll of tape and two
pencils
and I will replace when those are gone, but I am not providing for the
whole
class.

But, you are NOT supposed to be providng for the whole class. You are
supposed
to be providing for Kara. When her glue stick or tape runs our halfway
through
class, or her pencil breaks, what is she supposed to do until she comes
home
and can ask you for another?
Given that pencils DO come in boxes, (and glue sticks at least come,
usually 3
or 4 in a pack) why not just send the whole pack along with her at once?
Makes
life easier for everyone. Saves the teacher the trouble of having to send
home
notes once a week saying "Please send another pencil to school with Kara.
She
is now writing with a stub."


Naomi
CAPPA Certified Lactation Educator

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On 11 Sep 2003 12:58:01 GMT, OSPAM (Naomi Pardue)
wrote:
But, you are NOT supposed to be providng for the whole class. You are supposed
to be providing for Kara. When her glue stick or tape runs our halfway through
class, or her pencil breaks, what is she supposed to do until she comes home
and can ask you for another?
Given that pencils DO come in boxes, (and glue sticks at least come, usually 3
or 4 in a pack) why not just send the whole pack along with her at once? Makes
life easier for everyone. Saves the teacher the trouble of having to send home
notes once a week saying "Please send another pencil to school with Kara. She
is now writing with a stub."

From what I remember of elementary school, and from what others tell
me with school-aged children, all the extra supplies go to whoever
needs them, not just the student they were bought for. So all those
extra pencils you send will go to any other student who is without a
pencil one day. (not all schools or teachers do this I'm sure but it's
not uncommon at all)
Reminds me, it was the same way with diapers and daycare when my
oldest was in daycare long ago.
Marie

On 10 Sep 2003 20:59:47 -0700, (chiam margalit)
wrote:
So.... what stupid things are YOUR schools doing this year that are
driving you nuts?

The elementary schools in my district are requiring certain
name-brands of things like folders, notebooks, crayons, pencils...
Doesn't seem right to make parents buy certain brands like that when
there are cheaper brands. (like Crayola, which is more expensive than
generic brand crayons) One of the elementary schools was saying
students can't use those rolling-type school bags (what are they
called? like little suitcases on wheels) but I don't know how that
turned out. All those kids are going to have back problems! The high
school here has no lockers so all those books will be carried several
times a day.
Here parents got a list of each thing needed at the beginning of the
year but class fees had to be paid before the list was given to the
parents. My aunt said fees were almost $100 a child! (and she has 3
and are in our district)
I've always wondered, why not just have one notebook for each
class/subject (or even requiring a 3 ring binder with notebook paper
is reasonable to me)? I don't understand the need for all these
folders and things, especially not until middle or even high school.
Marie

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:58:09 -0700, "Circe" wrote:
At our school, all of the supplies we're asked to buy go into a centralized
pot. In theory, the amount we purchase represents the amount our child will
use during the school year, but in practice, it's just a central supply from
which *all* the kids can get needed items. I don't have a problem with that.

I wouldn't have a problem with it either, but...if you are on a very
limited income, and the "pot" runs out and your child needs more that
could be a problem.
Marie

"Marie" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 11:58:09 -0700, "Circe" wrote:
At our school, all of the supplies we're asked to buy go into a
centralized
pot. In theory, the amount we purchase represents the amount our child
will
use during the school year, but in practice, it's just a central supply
from
which *all* the kids can get needed items. I don't have a problem with
that.

I wouldn't have a problem with it either, but...if you are on a very
limited income, and the "pot" runs out and your child needs more that
could be a problem.

Well, the pot is in all probability larger than it needs to be so that they
never run out of supplies before the end of the year. If that were to
happen, however, I suspect the school would kick in discretionary funds to
purchase additional supplies and/or ask for voluntary donations from parents
rather than *requiring* all parents to buy more supplies. There is a
specific statement in the paperwork that no child will be excluded from
classroom activities because his/her parents fail to provide the desired
supplies.
--
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