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wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:53:11 -0700, "DB" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:07:35 -0500, "Phil" wrote: Same old ****: 'men are guilty (of everything) and women are stupid and helpless victims'. WAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH! WAaaaaaa my gas went up! WAaaaaaa I lost my house to foreclosure! WAaaaaaa, I have to pay more road taxes! WAaaaaaa, we're over 10 $Trillion in debt. WAaaaaaa, companies and banks are closing WAaaaaaa, we are all a nation of whiners, why is my whining any less relevant? Ah I see your a Phil Gramm Republican. LOL. You fathered kids. Take some ****ing responsibility. One is not responsible for a choice that is impossible for them to make. It simply follows. |
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"DB" wrote in message ... "Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in message .. . DB wrote: "Kenneth S." wrote in message news On Wed, 13 May 2009 18:42:29 -0700, "DB" wrote: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/...r=HOME_5011283 Looks like a lot of dumb as women don't know how to use birth control or maybe it's a meal ticket for them? I find it interesting that none of the news stories I have read about the increased proportion of unmarried mothers said anything about the attitude of the fathers. Did the mothers consult them before deliberately getting pregnant, and letting the pregnancies proceed to childbirth? Not a word about the possibility that 18+ years of "child support" were imposed on these men without their consent. DB's meal ticket point apparently never entered the heads of the reporters who wrote the stories. The Child Support system is the most concealed system that directly effects millions of male citizens who will come under direct government control. Every unwed birth is another license for the State to extract 60% of a male's income. Why is not being taught in the schools, a baby will financially ruin any male's future! Teach all the young men you know..... Get "fixed" or get financially raped. Where will all the future tax payers come from and who will pay our debts? There's an ole' saying: "Socialism works fine, until you run out of other people's money". |
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"Beam Me Up Scotty" wrote in message .. . wrote: On Sun, 17 May 2009 09:40:43 -0700, "DB" wrote: Why, child support has a very negative impact on the economics of all males. We don't care about your personal "economics". Why don't "we" You seem to want his *PERSONAL* money when it comes to income tax. You see, that's just it. There is no such thing as "personal" money when it comes to socialism; your money is "OUR money". Thus, when they extort the fruits of your labor, it really isn't your cash; it always has belonged to the government people. Just be grateful for the little bit of (YOUR) money they "give" to you. Out side of your love fest group - here you just look like a lot of one issue whiney guys with lots of excuses who won't man up for their kids. |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 May 2009 20:56:58 -0700, "DB" wrote: Waaaah. SO the answer is A. I understand. I've seen DB doing this act for years. No wonder you guys . . . Oh never mind. It's only when everyone wakes up and realizes that if you take a majority of male citizen's independence, you have no society worth living in. A majority of males are responsible enough not to father kids they won't support. Your above statement is false on two counts: 1. It is impossible, post-conception, for any man to choose to not father a child. 2. It is impossible for any man to choose to not support a child. And will support the ones they father. You really want to define yourself as a victim for the rest of your life it seems. No, he does NOT. That is precisely why he is posting here in the first place. It's probably better you not be around your kids too much, that sort of weak spined whininess is not a good example of what it means to be a man or a parent. |
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"Clave" wrote in message news:fe6dnewJhO1sq4_XnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@cablespeedmi .com... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:12 -0700, "Clave" wrote: show your kids how a man handles responsibility Bingo! Well that's the whole deal, innit? Can you imagine their kids running across these threads when they're older and realizing what a financial *inconvenience* they were to their own emotionally-stunted fathers? Did someone here claim that children are a "financial inconvenience"? I must have missed that post. It'd be a rare kid who wouldn't come off that **** without scars. Jim |
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"Clave" wrote in message news:fe6dnewJhO1sq4_XnZ2dnUVZ_rmdnZ2d@cablespeedmi .com... wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:12 -0700, "Clave" wrote: show your kids how a man handles responsibility Bingo! Well that's the whole deal, innit? Can you imagine their kids running across these threads when they're older and realizing what a financial *inconvenience* they were to their own emotionally-stunted fathers? Can you imagine the kids finding out what their father went through when they also divorce later in life? "Dad why didn't you tell me I have a target painted on my ass?" Well Son, I didn't want to whine..... |
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"DownThe" wrote in message .. . wrote: On Mon, 18 May 2009 21:18:12 -0700, "Clave" wrote: show your kids how a man handles responsibility You mean how a slave handles responsibility. The whining -- it burns like stupid. Jim |
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DB wrote:
Workers meaning minimum wage jobs as the good paying jobs are gone? Has it come to the point where you have to have a government job to get a decent wage these days? Its not upta me. We seem to be in a global system where there are workers in other regions that'll produce more profit, and hence draw more investment to build more plants for more such jobs. I've advocated a return to the village economic model, which is an order of magnitude more efficient than cottage industry, more like small business, which has been shown to be very profitable. But- the cost of living in a rural agrarian village is so low that even global level wages are enuf to live comfortably. They grow their own food, raise their own livestock, cut their own timber, mill their own lumber, cut their own firewood, and in a word, meet all their usual routine needs, only needing a small amount of cash for imported goods like PCs, broadband, or medical care. If the economy tanks, then they can get by on just the local resources until trade picks up again. The village has its own childcare and one room schoolhouse. Mothers dont worry about the kids cause there are no strangers with candy, and nobody can stalk the women either when everyone knows everyone who lives there. Village elders, witches and shamen provided what we now call 'case management', but unlike the shrink, actually lived with the clients so they picked up on stuff that never went reported in therapy sessions. Add fertility clinic services, and each generation is saner, smarter, and more adaptable to local, regional, or global market opportunities. If less talented women use in vitro, then the village makes a quantum leap in functionality in a single generation. And rather than parking the seniors in an assisted living center, keep them on hand to watch the kids while the parents work. Which lowers the cost of childcare. So, even if it is 'minimum wage', they still live well because the per capita carbon foot print is so much lower. |
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Phil wrote:
"Day Brown" wrote in message om... Well, since the *******s are gonna be raised on welfare anyway, why dont we bribe women to use fertility clinics? The kids the taxpayers pay to be raised would be gonzo smarter and worth it. They won't be any smarter, probably dumber. Worth depends on value. These little welfare mongers have none except to keep prisons filled and police employed. Read up on in vitro. Even dim witted women can have perfectly adequate maternal instincts, and if the kids are smarter and healthier to start with, they'll be lots easier to raise and cost the taxpayers much less. Be even smarter to use the FEMA trailers to build rural villages and move the welfare queens- leaving the stud muffin boyfriends and thugs in the city. No gang violence. No rapes. No sexual abuse. No drugs. no problem. |
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wrote in message news On Mon, 18 May 2009 11:12:52 -0500, "Phil" wrote: wrote in message news The interesting thing is they form groups and bitch about it ad infinitum. Get a life. Get on with it. These are people who are likely to tell others "life isn't fair" "suck it up or **** off". We're not bitching but trying to find a way to insure all citizens have equal rights, not just women. Of course some people see "equal" as infringing upon women's rights, which it would. But they bitch about it forever! We live it forever. DUH. You're not the sharpest tool in the shed, are you? get a life already. Ok, exactly how? I'm sure you think it is of little consequence that thousands of fathers are not allowed to BE fathers because of rampant and legal vengeance. I doubt you care as long as women get, men give. (Now watch the string of I would but she took it whines.) Your turn may be coming... unless you are female (which I highly suspect, given your misandry). Are you going to spend your whole life being a victim? Or are you going to get on with your life? What makes you think I'm a victim? You're really not at all too bright, are you? Phil #3 |
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