Lynne Cheney Is ASHAMED of Her Wayward Daughter!

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:28:41 GMT, Bill Baker wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:41:45 -0500, duke wrote in
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:55:28 GMT, Bill Baker
wrote:

Nope. No difference at all except in who said it.

'rat kerry should be tarred and feathered and run out of town.

For what?

Being a natural-born low-life.

duke
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:29:30 GMT, Bill Baker wrote:

Kerry is a rotten sob for picking on a back room supporter. He could
have easily made his point leaving her out, but his rotten black heart
prevented him from doing so.

You're insane.

flipper is a rotten man.

duke
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14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:55:10 -0500, duke wrote in
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:30:24 GMT, Bill Baker
wrote:

She's not a player. 'rat kerry showed what a ******* he really is.

She is a player. She's related to Dick Cheney and is helping out on his
campaign.

You attack the candidate, not his daughter.

Except when listening to flipper, of course. What a louse.

He didn't attack her.

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:55:49 -0500, duke wrote in
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:28:41 GMT, Bill Baker
wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:41:45 -0500, duke wrote in
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On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:55:28 GMT, Bill Baker
wrote:

Nope. No difference at all except in who said it.

'rat kerry should be tarred and feathered and run out of town.

For what?

Being a natural-born low-life.

How so?

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On Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:56:34 -0500, duke wrote in
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On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:29:30 GMT, Bill Baker
wrote:

Kerry is a rotten sob for picking on a back room supporter. He could
have easily made his point leaving her out, but his rotten black heart
prevented him from doing so.

You're insane.

flipper is a rotten man.

If you think so.

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duke wrote:

On Sun, 17 Oct 2004 21:47:47 -0400, Marc Satterwhite
wrote:

As far as I can remember Chelsea didn't actively participate in any campaign. And the right
wing
hardly respected her privacy at all, and indeed made her the butt of many jokes, when she
was barely a teenager.

the right wing totally respected her privacy. But then along came the sob with the black
heart - flipper kerry.

That's an interesting bit of revisionist history.




flipper is getting desperate.

She's an adult, she's an active part of the campaign,

Kerry is a rotten sob for picking on a back room supporter. He could have easily made his
point leaving her out, but his rotten black heart prevented him from doing so.

From The Democratic Underground (not an unbiased source, of course, but they do
provide links for all factual claims):

[begin quote]

After three crushing defeats for George W. Bush, desperate Republicans needed something to
distract the media - and they found the perfect foil in Dick Cheney's daughter, Mary. Toward the
end of last week's debate moderator Bob Schieffer tossed out a question about gay marriage,
specifically asking both candidates, "Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?"

Bush's answer was predictably fuzzy. "You know, Bob, I don't know. I just don't know. I do know
that we have a choice to make in America and that is to treat people with tolerance and respect
and dignity. It's important that we do that. And I also know in a free society people,
consenting adults can live the way they want to live." You could almost hear the fundies
gnashing their teeth. It's okay though, because while George believes that "consenting adults
can live the way they want to live," and we should "treat people with tolerance and respect and
dignity," he also believes we should write homophobia into law by amending the Constitution.

Kerry's answer to the question "Do you believe homosexuality is a choice?" was much more
straightforward. "We're all God's children, Bob. And I think if you were to talk to Dick
Cheney's daughter, who is a lesbian, she would tell you that she's being who she was, she's
being who she was born as. I think if you talk to anybody, it's not choice."

And here's where it gets interesting.

Mary Cheney's sexuality is no secret - according to the Gay & Lesbian Times, she has "worked on
gay issues and on her father’s 2000 vice presidential campaign," worked as "as a gay community
liaison for Coors Brewing Company," and has "served on the advisory board of the Republican
Unity Coalition, a gay-straight alliance formed within the Republican party to help increase
tolerance within the party for gays and lesbians, and others."

Dick Cheney himself brought up Mary's sexuality when speaking on the issue of gay marriage back
in August: "Lynne and I have a gay daughter, so it's an issue that our family is very familiar
with... With respect to the question of relationships, my general view is that freedom means
freedom for everyone."

John Edwards mentioned Mary during the vice-presidential debate two weeks ago, saying, "I think
the vice president and his wife love their daughter. I think they love her very much. And you
can't have anything but respect for the fact that they're willing to talk about the fact that
they have a gay daughter, the fact that they embrace her. It's a wonderful thing." Dick Cheney's
response? "Let me simply thank the senator for the kind words he said about my family and our
daughter. I appreciate that very much."

But after last week's debate the Cheneys suddenly weren't so appreciative. Lynne Cheney said of
John Kerry, "This is not a good man. Of course, I am speaking as a mom, and a pretty indignant
mom. This is not a good man. What a cheap and tawdry political trick." Because obviously when
you mention your homosexual daughter as an example of why gays should be treated with respect
it's okay, but when your opponent mentions your homosexual daughter as an example of why gays
should be treated with respect, it's a "tawdry political trick."

Speaking of tawdry political tricks, the Bush campaign spent the rest of the week tossing
"outrage" and "indignation" and various other impassioned synonyms at anyone who would listen,
coincidentally obscuring the fact that Dubya got his ass handed to him during the debate.

And yet... back in April Republican senator Rick Santorum compared homosexuality to incest,
bigamy and adultery. In an August newsletter to supporters, Jerry Falwell called Mary Cheney
"errant" (although he graciously admitted that "it should not affect Mr. Cheney's ability to
serve as Vice President"). And in September, Republican senate candidate Alan Keyes specifically
targeted Mary Cheney as "a selfish hedonist."

Funny, I don't remember seeing Lynne Cheney all over the TV expressing her "outrage" after any
of those incidents. Maybe she was too busy trying to find a way to keep Mary off the stage
during the Republican National Convention.

[end quote]

Mr. Kerry did not say anything untrue; he did not in any way insult or demean
Ms. Cheney, unlike some prominent Republicans; he did not say anything
that isn't common knowledge; he didn't say anything that the Cheney
family hasn't also said publicly. Ms. Cheney has, in fact, based part of her
career on her sexual orientation, acting as a consultant and/or liaison with
companies and political campaigns.

I get really sick of faux outrage on the part of the right.

Best, Marc








duke
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Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
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duke wrote:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:56:16 +0000 (UTC), (Cary Kittrell) wrote:

She's not a player. 'rat kerry showed what a ******* he really is.

You know, seeing as how Mary is Cheney's campaign manager, she damn
well better be a player. Otherwise Cheney should fire her and get
someone who is.

Only flipper botox would enjoy attacking a candidate's daughter.
'rat flipper really scrapped the bottom of the barrel on that one.

In what way were Mr. Kerry's remarks an attack?

Best, Marc



duke
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Matthew 22
14"For many are invited, but few are chosen."
*****

In article ,
duke wrote:

On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 01:30:24 GMT, Bill Baker
wrote:

She's not a player. 'rat kerry showed what a ******* he really is.

She is a player. She's related to Dick Cheney and is helping out on his
campaign.

You attack the candidate, not his daughter.

Except when listening to flipper, of course. What a louse.

How did Kerry attack her? He said nothing negative or demeaning or
hostile about Mary.
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In article duke writes:

On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:56:16 +0000 (UTC), (Cary Kittrell) wrote:

She's not a player. 'rat kerry showed what a ******* he really is.

You know, seeing as how Mary is Cheney's campaign manager, she damn
well better be a player. Otherwise Cheney should fire her and get
someone who is.

Only flipper botox would enjoy attacking a candidate's daughter.
'rat flipper really scrapped the bottom of the barrel on that one.


Party A threatens an entire faction of the American populace with
a Constitutional Amendment aimed specifically at them -- cynically
knowing all the while that the Amendment will not pass, but will
galvanize their ownpolitical base. Party A forcefully and repeatedly accuses
this entire several-million-strong group of Americans with wanting
to destroy the basic fabric of our society. Party A brings
God into the process, putting out the message that this group
of citizens flies in the face of God himself.

Party B points out that a single member of Party A's campaign
management is a member of this loudly disparaged group.


You tell me which party is scraping the bottom of the barrel.


-- cary

In our last thrilling episode, duke was pushed
over the cliffs of alt.atheism on Thu, 21 Oct 2004 04:53:51 -0500 by
Zoog, minion of Zathar. As he fell, he screamed:
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:56:16 +0000 (UTC), (Cary Kittrell) wrote:

She's not a player. 'rat kerry showed what a ******* he really is.

You know, seeing as how Mary is Cheney's campaign manager, she damn
well better be a player. Otherwise Cheney should fire her and get
someone who is.

Only flipper botox would enjoy attacking a candidate's daughter.
'rat flipper really scrapped the bottom of the barrel on that one.

What attack? Mary Cheney is an out lesbian. Mentioning this fact is
not anymore attack than publically saying that I'm a fan of the San
Francisco Giants.

I'm sorry that Lynne Cheney can't accept that her daughter is gay, but
that's her problem.
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