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Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)



 
 
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Old March 5th 04, 05:38 PM
Andre Lieven
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

--sexkitten-- ) writes:
David Barnes wrote:
In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:

Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.


Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.


WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.

Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.


No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.

Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.
  #2  
Old March 5th 04, 05:38 PM
Andre Lieven
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

--sexkitten-- ) writes:
David Barnes wrote:
In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:

Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.


Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.


WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.

Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.


No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.

Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.
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Old March 5th 04, 07:26 PM
Ray Fischer
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

Andre Lieven wrote:
--sexkitten-- ) writes:
David Barnes wrote:
Chris


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.


WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Abortion opponents.

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned,


Religious fundamentalists.

*and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


Those both require childbirth.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


No, it is not.

--
Ray Fischer


  #4  
Old March 5th 04, 07:26 PM
Ray Fischer
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

Andre Lieven wrote:
--sexkitten-- ) writes:
David Barnes wrote:
Chris


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.


WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Abortion opponents.

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned,


Religious fundamentalists.

*and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


Those both require childbirth.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


No, it is not.

--
Ray Fischer


  #5  
Old March 5th 04, 07:26 PM
Ray Fischer
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

Andre Lieven wrote:
--sexkitten-- ) writes:
David Barnes wrote:
Chris


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.


WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Abortion opponents.

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned,


Religious fundamentalists.

*and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


Those both require childbirth.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


No, it is not.

--
Ray Fischer


  #6  
Old March 6th 04, 01:18 AM
--sexkitten--
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

Andre Lieven wrote:

--sexkitten-- ) writes:

David Barnes wrote:

In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.



WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Chris.

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


I think he stops with Roe v Wade, but again, that's Chris.
To me, it seems a bit hypocritical to be anti- abortion and anti- child
support at the same time.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


A bit of sarcasm mixed in, but it's not made up. That IS his actual view.


Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.



No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.


Haven't we gone over this before? I said nothing of the kind, and
believe nothing of the kind. My point was the irrational thinking of
Chris, i.e. it's OK to make women bear children, but wrong for men to
have to support said children.

Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "


Yes, I know. Deja vu.

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?


Deja vu all over again.
Hi Andre, haven't seen you in a bit, how've you been?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

  #7  
Old March 6th 04, 01:18 AM
--sexkitten--
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

Andre Lieven wrote:

--sexkitten-- ) writes:

David Barnes wrote:

In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.



WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Chris.

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


I think he stops with Roe v Wade, but again, that's Chris.
To me, it seems a bit hypocritical to be anti- abortion and anti- child
support at the same time.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


A bit of sarcasm mixed in, but it's not made up. That IS his actual view.


Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.



No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.


Haven't we gone over this before? I said nothing of the kind, and
believe nothing of the kind. My point was the irrational thinking of
Chris, i.e. it's OK to make women bear children, but wrong for men to
have to support said children.

Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "


Yes, I know. Deja vu.

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?


Deja vu all over again.
Hi Andre, haven't seen you in a bit, how've you been?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

  #8  
Old March 6th 04, 01:18 AM
--sexkitten--
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)

Andre Lieven wrote:

--sexkitten-- ) writes:

David Barnes wrote:

In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.


Forcing women to bear children=OK.



WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Chris.

Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


I think he stops with Roe v Wade, but again, that's Chris.
To me, it seems a bit hypocritical to be anti- abortion and anti- child
support at the same time.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


A bit of sarcasm mixed in, but it's not made up. That IS his actual view.


Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.



No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.


Haven't we gone over this before? I said nothing of the kind, and
believe nothing of the kind. My point was the irrational thinking of
Chris, i.e. it's OK to make women bear children, but wrong for men to
have to support said children.

Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "


Yes, I know. Deja vu.

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?


Deja vu all over again.
Hi Andre, haven't seen you in a bit, how've you been?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.

  #9  
Old March 6th 04, 06:24 PM
Chris
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)


"--sexkitten--" wrote in message
...
Andre Lieven wrote:

--sexkitten-- ) writes:

David Barnes wrote:

In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.

Forcing women to bear children=OK.



WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Chris.


Either you are referring to someone OTHER than me, or your claim is false.


Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


I think he stops with Roe v Wade, but again, that's Chris.


(see above)

To me, it seems a bit hypocritical to be anti- abortion and anti- child
support at the same time.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


A bit of sarcasm mixed in, but it's not made up. That IS his actual view.


(see above)



Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.



No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.


Haven't we gone over this before? I said nothing of the kind, and
believe nothing of the kind. My point was the irrational thinking of
Chris, i.e. it's OK to make women bear children, but wrong for men to
have to support said children.


(see above)


Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "


Yes, I know. Deja vu.

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?


Deja vu all over again.
Hi Andre, haven't seen you in a bit, how've you been?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.



  #10  
Old March 6th 04, 06:24 PM
Chris
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Default Eleventh Circuit Court: Forced abortion on woman (Pro-Liar idiocy)


"--sexkitten--" wrote in message
...
Andre Lieven wrote:

--sexkitten-- ) writes:

David Barnes wrote:

In article eAS1c.16643$h23.13026@fed1read06, Chris
wrote:


Men-pay, women-get-paid. Classic feminist misandry.

I could have collected when I gained custody. I did not bother.

Congratulations! You elected to NOT rip someone off.

Rip someone off? Please explain.

Plainly put, you elected to not take that which you have not earned.

Your hatred of women is showing. Thank God.

Forcing women to bear children=OK.



WHO exactly, and *how*, is anyone claiming to want to " force "
women to bear any children ?


Chris.


Either you are referring to someone OTHER than me, or your claim is false.


Who is suggesting that Roe V/ Wade be repealed, *and* RU-486 be
banned, *and* legal adopting out be banned, *and*, legal abandon
laws for women be repealed ?


I think he stops with Roe v Wade, but again, that's Chris.


(see above)

To me, it seems a bit hypocritical to be anti- abortion and anti- child
support at the same time.

This is a massive and untruthful straw *woman*, and utterly made up.


A bit of sarcasm mixed in, but it's not made up. That IS his actual view.


(see above)



Forcing men to support said children they forced to be born=Bad.



No, but you're saying that holding women to be AS *responsible*
for the *consequences of their SOLE choices* is bad.


Haven't we gone over this before? I said nothing of the kind, and
believe nothing of the kind. My point was the irrational thinking of
Chris, i.e. it's OK to make women bear children, but wrong for men to
have to support said children.


(see above)


Its disingenuous to claim that women have the *sole right to
chooses whether or not to bear to term*, but that *someone else*
must be made to pay for the *consequence of that sole women's
choice*.

" Her body, her choice... HER *responsibility*. "


Yes, I know. Deja vu.

If a woman can't be *bothered* to memorialise a parenting
relationship with a man *before* choosing to bear to term,
that too, is HER problem, and her problem, alone.

If the time of sex *isn't* the time of *irrevokable* decision
to become a parent for a *woman*, which it *isn't* ( See the
above list of women's *only*, post-coital choices ), then it's
SEXIST to say that it must be, for the man...

You're not a misandrous sexist, are you... ?


Deja vu all over again.
Hi Andre, haven't seen you in a bit, how've you been?

Andre
--
" I'm a man... But, I can change... If I have to... I guess. "
The Man Prayer, Red Green.



 




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