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Are chiropractors physicians?
"David Wright" wrote in message . .. In article , Jeff wrote: And I don't see how chiropractors bridge a gap between physical therapists and physicians. Physical therapists are highly trained professionals how understand anatomy and physiology from their coursework in school. Subluxations aside, what is your basis for implying that chiropractors don't understand anatomy? Are they telling us the leg bone is connected to the arm bone? I did not imply that chiropractors don't understand anatomy. Rather, if they think that the main cause of disease is spinal problems, their understanding of physiology and pathology is why off, IMHO: http://www.chirobase.org/01General/modde.html. While many physical therapists mmight not have as comprensive training in anatomy and physiology, at least the training they have is based on scientifically verifiable principles. While phyisical therapists and physicians have different professional training and different ways of helping people, the gap between PTs and physicians is not one that needs to be filled, espeically by quacks. Jeff |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical science, I don't think Jeff |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... "giselle" wrote in message ... Jeff wrote: Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call themselves physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth training that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as residency. They do provide a service though. I used to think that they were total quacks. But, after working with a personal injury lawyer, I've seen a suprising number of mutual referrals between neurologists and chiroporactors as well as mutual respect. In a sense, chiropractors bridge the gap between physical (or massage) therapists and physicians. Some people are highly comforted by their services. Whether the placebo effect is the main modus operandi or not remains unknown. I agree that some chiropractors provide valuable services. However, physical therapists, occupational therapists, dentists, psychologists and social workers all provide extremely important services. But they aren't physicians either. And I don't see how chiropractors bridge a gap between physical therapists and physicians. Physical therapists are highly trained professionals how understand anatomy and physiology from their coursework in school. Jeff Jeffie has not researched this. |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
Ahhh! noise from the idiot team.
"Orac" wrote in message news No. They are not physicians. -- Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?" |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Mein" wrote in message ... In article , says... Jeff wrote: Considering that the theory behind chiropractic is not supported by medical science, I don't think chiropractors should be allowed to call themselves physicians. In addition, chiropractors do not have the in-depth training that physicians about the human body or appropriate training such as residency. They do provide a service though. Yeah, a quack service. I used to think that they were total quacks. Used to? They ARE. Your mind is going backwards. But, after working with a personal injury lawyer, I've seen a suprising number of mutual referrals between neurologists and chiroporactors as well as mutual respect. In a sense, chiropractors bridge the gap between physical (or massage) therapists and physicians. Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category. Some people are highly comforted by their services. Whether the placebo effect is the main modus operandi or not remains unknown. Heh. They might as well save their money and pray to Jesus. It will be just as effective. Ahhhh, more idiot representation. Good show, "mein". |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Jeff" wrote in message ... (...) Personally, I'd put chiropractors below physical therapists and massage therapists, in roughly the same category as fortune tellers and astrologers and faith healers. You know, the KOOK category. Chiropractors have been shown to improve back pain. For a few people with very specific conditions, some chriopractors do a wonderful service. (I think good physical therapy would be just as effective). However, considering that chiropractic is based on theories that are not in any way backed by science, I think the work would be better off without them. (...) There you go again, trying to convince folks, that you think. |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "giselle" wrote in message ... Mein wrote: Used to? They ARE. Your mind is going backwards. There is no need to be insulting. After you've gone through approximately 100 m of paperwork wherein neurologists and sports physicians send their injured patients to chiropractors, you might see things a little differently, too. I would not have believed it myself until I saw it. I didn't say that chiropractors accomplished anything. I just said that they provide a service. Some people find value in it. \ Many physcians send some patients to chiropracters, including me. However, it's been my experience that this is done, not because the chiropracters have specific medical treatments that are more effective, but because chiropracters are generally less constrained by scientific honesty. They can do a great song and dance for the patient and really make it believable. The resultant placebo effect is significant and can "cure" many patients that haven't responded to allopathic diagnosis and treatment primarily because their symptoms are either entirely psychological, or psychologically augmented symptoms of real physical complaints. HMc Unless you tell the Chiros that you "send" people exactly that, you sir , are dishonest and a admitted BS artist.. Not one to be trusted. |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
In article . net,
"David" wrote: Ahhh! noise from the idiot team. Yes, that does describe your posts very well. "Orac" wrote in message news No. They are not physicians. -- Orac |"A statement of fact cannot be insolent." | |"If you cannot listen to the answers, why do you | inconvenience me with questions?" |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"David" wrote in message ink.net... "Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "giselle" wrote in message ... Mein wrote: Used to? They ARE. Your mind is going backwards. There is no need to be insulting. After you've gone through approximately 100 m of paperwork wherein neurologists and sports physicians send their injured patients to chiropractors, you might see things a little differently, too. I would not have believed it myself until I saw it. I didn't say that chiropractors accomplished anything. I just said that they provide a service. Some people find value in it. \ Many physcians send some patients to chiropracters, including me. However, it's been my experience that this is done, not because the chiropracters have specific medical treatments that are more effective, but because chiropracters are generally less constrained by scientific honesty. They can do a great song and dance for the patient and really make it believable. The resultant placebo effect is significant and can "cure" many patients that haven't responded to allopathic diagnosis and treatment primarily because their symptoms are either entirely psychological, or psychologically augmented symptoms of real physical complaints. HMc Unless you tell the Chiros that you "send" people exactly that, you sir , are dishonest and a admitted BS artist.. Not one to be trusted. I not only tell the chiropracter exactly that, I tell the patient exactly that as well. And, the opinion of my trustworthiness from an idiot like you is of absolutely no concern to me. HMc |
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Are chiropractors physicians?
"Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "David" wrote in message ink.net... "Howard McCollister" wrote in message ... "giselle" wrote in message ... Mein wrote: Used to? They ARE. Your mind is going backwards. There is no need to be insulting. After you've gone through approximately 100 m of paperwork wherein neurologists and sports physicians send their injured patients to chiropractors, you might see things a little differently, too. I would not have believed it myself until I saw it. I didn't say that chiropractors accomplished anything. I just said that they provide a service. Some people find value in it. \ Many physcians send some patients to chiropracters, including me. However, it's been my experience that this is done, not because the chiropracters have specific medical treatments that are more effective, but because chiropracters are generally less constrained by scientific honesty. They can do a great song and dance for the patient and really make it believable. The resultant placebo effect is significant and can "cure" many patients that haven't responded to allopathic diagnosis and treatment primarily because their symptoms are either entirely psychological, or psychologically augmented symptoms of real physical complaints. HMc Unless you tell the Chiros that you "send" people exactly that, you sir , are dishonest and a admitted BS artist.. Not one to be trusted. I not only tell the chiropracter exactly that, I tell the patient exactly that as well. I don't believe that you say anything of the sort. If you did, the Chiros would tell you to go screw. If you told paitents that, you would not see that person again. You are an insult to medicine. And, the opinion of my trustworthiness from an idiot like you is of absolutely no concern to me. HMc If that were true, you would not have replied to me. |
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