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Old June 2nd 04, 09:44 AM
Holger Dansk
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:14:43 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
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Holger Dansk wrote:

On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:24:48 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:
Your ancestors were definitely black

We have no idea what color anyone's ancestors were.

Yes we do. Black people in America have relatives who are descendants
in Africa of the relatives of the black people in America at the time
they were captured by black savages in Africa.

That sentence makes no sense. But how do you know what color their
ancestors were? And how do you know what color their ancestors'
ancestors were?


I was there. :-)
-----------------

You're a lying piece of ****, *I* was there, and I DIDN'T SEE YOU!

...
And I see not in my blindness
What the objects were I wrought,
But as God rules o'er our bickerings
It was through His will I fought.

So forever in the future,
Shall I battle as of yore,
Dying to be born a fighter,
But to die again, once more.

:-)

Holger
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Okay, "Patton".
And I knew this was Patton even without searching.

Now all you need is a mind to call your own.

The thing about this poem by Patton, is that somebody with
the least intelligence might have asked why we have to
waste our time life after life like that, in futility
and ignorant pride. There are much better things to do
and glory in.


Well, war is really hell, and, compared to war, other forms of human
endeavor pale into insignificance.

God help me. I love it so.

:-)

Holger

http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm
  #472  
Old June 2nd 04, 01:35 PM
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R. Steve Walz wrote:
Fletch F. Fletch wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:
Fletch F. Fletch wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:
Fletch F. Fletch wrote:

greccogirl wrote:
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Cosby is a rich rightist asshole, he always has been, he has
played golf with Nixon and Reagan, and he's a black racist. The
"I don't give a damn" attitide is a form of disrespect that the
white society has earned with its racist and economic brutality
and unfairness!!! Steve

Well I've heard a lot of weird stuff but labeling Cosby as a
racist is quite amusing. Besides what you're not getting, is
the form of "disrespect" that you think hurts white America is
really just hurting black America. It isn't hurting those they
think they are hurting. That is what Cosby is trying to say

In case you haven't figured it out yet, R. Steve Walz pretty much
likes to tell you the way it is and call people names. Period.
Gets old quick.

Slainte,
Fletch
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And scares the racist **** who can't handle it.
Steve

Case in point.

Slainte,
Fletch
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You SUUURE are!
Steve


You just can't help yourself.

You need to relax. Unless your goal is to get high blood pressure,
you're not getting anywhere. Your pathetic style of debate rarely
convinces anybody of anything. But please, keep stamping your feet.

Slainte,
Fletch

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Mind your mind, it's defective.
Steve


"Last word freak."
-- Melvin

Slainte,
Fletch


  #473  
Old June 2nd 04, 01:37 PM
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Jasper PNL Mfg Co, LTD wrote:
"R. Steve Walz" wrote in message
...
Fletch F. Fletch wrote:

R. Steve Walz wrote:
wrote:

On Mon, 31 May 2004 01:35:19 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

greccogirl wrote:





---------------
Cosby is a rich rightist asshole, he always has been, he has
played golf with Nixon and Reagan, and he's a black racist. The
"I don't give a damn" attitide is a form of disrespect that the
white society has earned with its racist and economic brutality
and unfairness!!! Steve

Well I've heard a lot of weird stuff but labeling Cosby as a
racist is quite amusing. Besides what you're not getting, is
the form of "disrespect" that you think hurts white America is
really just hurting black America. It isn't hurting those they
think they are hurting. That is what Cosby is trying to say
-----------------------
Cosby has always hung out with the GOP, he's a log-cabin repub
dildo. Or didn't you know that, he's a ****ing Oreo.
Steve

Do I detect a bit of jealousy in yours and the others' tone.
---------------
He's ****ing ignorant and evil, why would I or anyone be jealous!


The man made a lot of money,
----------------
Thieves don't impress me


contributed heavily to worthy charities
------------------
The RNC isn't a charity.


and educational programs and you and the others start with the
name calling.
-----------------------
Everything he pays for is self-serving on his part.


It would do
you well to take stock in what you're doing for your community
instead of expecting Bill Cosby to come to your sorry assed
rescue.
-----------------
**** rescue, I only want that sad little liar to shut the **** up!
Steve

Why? You're allowed to talk. Why not him?

Slainte,
Fletch

-----------------
Simple. He's vicious and wrong.
Steve


why don't you two butt-snifferz get a room somewhere and do your
crotch-grabbing in private ?


Move along little boy.

Slainte,
Fletch


  #474  
Old June 2nd 04, 01:41 PM
Fletch F. Fletch
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R. Steve Walz wrote:
Holger Dansk wrote:

On Tue, 01 Jun 2004 16:24:03 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:
On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:24:48 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:
and were and had been savages for
thousands of years hunting with spears and they may have even
had bows and arrows. They ate wildebeest, antelope, monkeys,
guineas, hyenas, wild dogs and each other, etc., etc., etc.

That is true for all of mankind.

Not at all. Haven't you ever heard of the Greek and Roman
civilizations, for instance?

Yes. And the Greeks and Romans had ancestors who were uncivilized
savages who lived by hunting and gathering, just like all other
human beings, and most of the evidence indicates that all of
these people ultimate had ancestors who lived in Africa. But we
don't know what color those ancestors were.

The Greek and Roman civilizations existed about 2,000 years ago.
They contributed a great deal to the modern world.

Duh.

But their ancestors came from Africa just like yours. And even long
after they lived in Africa, they were
"savages for thousands of years hunting with spears and they may
have even had bows and arrows."

The Greeks had the greatest ancient civilization.

According to who? The Chinese probably feel differently.

And what about all those European societies that *weren't* Greek in
the same timeframe? What were their contributions to the world?

All of those
thousands of years the black savages in Africa were just savages
contributing nothing to the world.

1) Prove that they were savages.

2) Why should they "contribute something to the world"? The world
contributed nothing to them.


I'm sure that was the thinking of the very few who ever even thought
about contributing anything to the world. They did very little
thinking about anything except survival and where their next meal
was coming from. Any leisure time was probably spent sitting on a
termite mound saying "muhfugger". (in their primitive language, of
course)

Holger
http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm

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You're delusional. We lived exactly that way till we had the where-
withall to do better, which only happens little by little, and only
randomly as an accidental circumstance that permitted improvement.
We are no different than they are genetically, or even culturally,
as it was only a sick ignorant vicious streak in our culture that
allowed us to enslave people without conscience and to abuse other
cultures in the world to steal their resources and conquer another
continent from its peaceful resiedents, or we'd be living exactly
the same way! There's no nobility to western society, in fact we
are far more vicious than most of our victim cultures we looted
and pillaged and do still to this day! Or at least we have been,
we are finally just in the last 40 years beginning to develop a
conscience.
Steve


We're no different culturally, but it's a vicious streak in our culture that
allowed us to ... ???? So, are we all the same? Or are we more vicious? I
don't think you have an internally consistent theory here.

Slainte,
Fletch


  #475  
Old June 2nd 04, 01:45 PM
Fletch F. Fletch
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:56:32 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:

The Greek and Roman civilizations existed about 2,000 years ago.
They contributed a great deal to the modern world.

The Greeks had the greatest ancient civilization. All of those
thousands of years the black savages in Africa were just savages
contributing nothing to the world.

Holger
http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm

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Greeks did nothing but quarrel and fight, the Athenian democracy
was impossible without the enslavement of captives taken in often
cowardly raids on other more peaceful peoples.


Thomas Jefferson studied Aristotle and used his philosophy when he
wrote our Constitution. (He was the primary author.)

The Greeks put vowels in the alphabet which made language a lot more
useful.

Mind you, I even LIKE the Romans, and Latin, which I studied for
5 years and can still SPEAK conversationally!


Latin is a dead language. Not anyone speaks it. Some priest use it
in their services. Some people learn it in order to increase their
vocabulary. Many English words are derived from Latin. Reminds me of
so many blacks who say they have a college degree and you ask them
from where and they say "University of Wedowee" or something like
that which not anyone has ever heard of. When you ask them where it
is, they say, "Wedowee, AL". Of course, no such university exist.


Has this actually ever happened to you? I've never heard of such a thing.

You do realize that there are black people who are far smarter than you,
right? How does that square with your beliefs? Do you look down on even
those who are your intellectual superiors?

Slainte,
Fletch


  #476  
Old June 2nd 04, 01:48 PM
Fletch F. Fletch
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 03:14:43 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:

On Mon, 31 May 2004 23:24:48 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:
Your ancestors were definitely black

We have no idea what color anyone's ancestors were.

Yes we do. Black people in America have relatives who are
descendants in Africa of the relatives of the black people in
America at the time they were captured by black savages in Africa.

That sentence makes no sense. But how do you know what color their
ancestors were? And how do you know what color their ancestors'
ancestors were?

I was there. :-)
-----------------

You're a lying piece of ****, *I* was there, and I DIDN'T SEE YOU!

...
And I see not in my blindness
What the objects were I wrought,
But as God rules o'er our bickerings
It was through His will I fought.

So forever in the future,
Shall I battle as of yore,
Dying to be born a fighter,
But to die again, once more.

:-)

Holger
http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm

--------------------------
Okay, "Patton".
And I knew this was Patton even without searching.

Now all you need is a mind to call your own.

The thing about this poem by Patton, is that somebody with
the least intelligence might have asked why we have to
waste our time life after life like that, in futility
and ignorant pride. There are much better things to do
and glory in.


Well, war is really hell, and, compared to war, other forms of human
endeavor pale into insignificance.


You ever hear of math? (and all that it makes possible)

Slainte,
Fletch


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Old June 2nd 04, 02:47 PM
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On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 12:45:17 GMT, "Fletch F. Fletch"
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 02:56:32 GMT, "R. Steve Walz"
wrote:

Holger Dansk wrote:

The Greek and Roman civilizations existed about 2,000 years ago.
They contributed a great deal to the modern world.

The Greeks had the greatest ancient civilization. All of those
thousands of years the black savages in Africa were just savages
contributing nothing to the world.

Holger
http://www.mind****.com/~holger1/holger1.htm
--------------------------------
Greeks did nothing but quarrel and fight, the Athenian democracy
was impossible without the enslavement of captives taken in often
cowardly raids on other more peaceful peoples.


Thomas Jefferson studied Aristotle and used his philosophy when he
wrote our Constitution. (He was the primary author.)

The Greeks put vowels in the alphabet which made language a lot more
useful.

Mind you, I even LIKE the Romans, and Latin, which I studied for
5 years and can still SPEAK conversationally!


Latin is a dead language. Not anyone speaks it. Some priest use it
in their services. Some people learn it in order to increase their
vocabulary. Many English words are derived from Latin. Reminds me of
so many blacks who say they have a college degree and you ask them
from where and they say "University of Wedowee" or something like
that which not anyone has ever heard of. When you ask them where it
is, they say, "Wedowee, AL". Of course, no such university exist.


Has this actually ever happened to you? I've never heard of such a thing.


The Georgia Dome security officers do that all the time.

You do realize that there are black people who are far smarter than you,
right? How does that square with your beliefs? Do you look down on even
those who are your intellectual superiors?


Why would I look down on them? Why would I look at them at all? I
don't think of them.

Slainte,
Fletch

Holger

http://www.mindspring.com/~holger1/holger1.htm
  #478  
Old June 2nd 04, 07:36 PM
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Holger Dansk wrote:
On Wed, 02 Jun 2004 00:06:30 -0400, Bob LeChevalier
wrote:

Now answer my question. What in his biography leads you to believe
that Vachel Lindsay had any clue how people in Africa live(d)?


Most people with any education at all know how horribly black people in
Africa have lived for thousands of years.


Most people with any REAL education at all know that they have no more
clue how black people lived in Africa for thousands of years than they
have how northern people lived in Scandinavia for thousands of years.

My father-in-law knows first hand. He went on several safaris and drunk
blood with the Masai, etc.


Tourists don't know "first hand". They do have a chance for more of a
clue than you have, but not much of one.

It is a life too horrible to imagine.


I doubt it.

lojbab
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  #479  
Old June 2nd 04, 07:41 PM
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Holger Dansk wrote:
Evidence is to the contrary.


What evidence is indicative of them doing anything productive
whatsoever?


They are alive.

They carved some ugly figures out of wood. Hooray!!!


They probably think your artwork is pretty ugly too.

Just sat on that termite mound saying, "muhfugger", muhfugger", all day,


Did your father-in-law testify to this?

Any leisure time was probably spent sitting on a termite mound
saying "muhfugger". (in their primitive language, of course)


Their language is no more primitive than yours, of course.


I didn't live a thousand years ago.


Language a thousand years ago was no more primitive than it is today.
(Latin was big some 2000 years ago, of course).

I'm speaking of what they did for
thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands and thousands of
years. Primitive means "old" or "primeval".


Not as an adjective on "language".

lojbab
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  #480  
Old June 2nd 04, 07:42 PM
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Holger Dansk wrote:
The Greeks put vowels in the alphabet which made language a lot more
useful.


Are you claiming that Hebrew, the language of the Bible, and Arabic,
the language of the Qur'an, are not "useful"?

lojbab
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