school snack question

On Sat, 9 Sep 2006 20:43:08 -0400, bizby40 wrote:

"Tracey" wrote in message
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"bizby40" wrote in message
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Why can everyone find the list but me? I went to the website, and
didn't see a list, *or* a link to an excel file.

Bizby


Its in a yellow/green blinking box in the center of the top page.

Thanks guys -- I must have looked past what I assumed to be the title,
and was looking all over what I assumed to be the page content.


Yes, the site is as well-designed as the snack list. ;-)

- Rich

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"Tracey" wrote in
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"Rosalie B." wrote in message
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enigma wrote:
Where did you get artificial sweeteners? I thought she
sent a drink which was largely water but 5% fruit juice -
no artificial sweeteners and less sugar


The very bottom thing in the ingredient list was sucralose
and some other artificial sweetener.
I'm NOT Worried about that...I'd rather have her have 5
calories worth of water with a tiny bit of artificial
sweetner and a splash of juice than 8oz of juice with like
140 calories.

because kids really need to watch those calories...

sorry, i'm not a juice fan either (especially apple juice),
but i'm one of those genetic types that gets a really horrible
aftertaste from artificial sweeteners, even the ones that
swear they taste 'just like sugar' (sucralose). it most
certainly does not! it's vile. i also don't think kids need
much of anything artificial in thier diets. artificial
colorings, flavorings & now sweeteners are just not healthy.
they do add extra profit to the chemical companies though.
my kid drinks water as his beverage of choice. on rare
occaisions he drinks iced tea, unsweetened, with lemon. he
only drinks milk if he's having TexMex food. he also finds the
artificially sweetened waters to taste vile (his best friend
drinks them).

lee
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

On 9 Sep 2006 17:35:39 -0700, carol/KR wrote:
Rich, that NYS list is pretty bad. Please post later on to let us know
how you handle this with your son. I wouldn't want my kids to eat most
of what is on that list.


The school's intepretation of the policy is even more insane.

If they actually enforce the policy as written, then it will be
against the rules for me to send an apple, grapes, or carrots grown
in our backyard to school for his snack.

It would, however, be perfectly within the guidelines of the policy
to send him with a pack or oreos or ice cream.

This, to me, is ridiculous beyond all belief.

I'm already working on how I will be letting my son know that in
situations where you're dealing with stupid policies, he should do
the right thing, rather than the permitted thing. Not exactly a subject
I thought I would need to start addressing in Kindergarten. ;-)

- Rich

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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:51:45 GMT, Tracey wrote:

"L." wrote in message
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Why the hell is the school dictating what your kid brings to school to
eat, anyway? Is this a private school? I *somewhat* understand "no
peanuts" (although I don't support it) for safety reasons, but this
sounds utterly ridiculous.

Public school, and while I think that trying to teach healthy habits and
nutrition is a good thing, I agree that they should not be dictating what
the kids bring to school to eat. It is just plain crazy.


We've just started running into this with DS, who started Kindergarten
last week.

The "approved list" for NYS schools is at
http://www.nyschoolnutrition.org .

Who "approved" it? Apparently, a trade group for school cafeteria managers.
It is not approved by the biggest school district in New York State (NYC
DOE) or apparently any of the other districts.

I would not accept this as an approved list for anything.

Jeff

Honestly, if they're trying to tell us that the specific items
on their list are "healthy snacks", someone has been smoking some
pretty wacky cigarettes. 90% of the things that they list are,
IMHO, absolute crap, and I wouldn't let my kids near them.

If that's what NYS considers to be "healthy", I'd hate to see
what they consider to be "unhealthy." Raw lard, perhaps.

- Rich

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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum
immane mittam.

You can get Open Office for free from OpenOffice.org. It will read Excel
spreadsheets. And it's free.


Jeff

On Sun, 10 Sep 2006 01:29:11 GMT, Jeff wrote:

"user" wrote in message
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On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 14:51:45 GMT, Tracey wrote:

"L." wrote in message
ps.com...
Why the hell is the school dictating what your kid brings to school to
eat, anyway? Is this a private school? I *somewhat* understand "no
peanuts" (although I don't support it) for safety reasons, but this
sounds utterly ridiculous.

Public school, and while I think that trying to teach healthy habits and
nutrition is a good thing, I agree that they should not be dictating what
the kids bring to school to eat. It is just plain crazy.


We've just started running into this with DS, who started Kindergarten
last week.

The "approved list" for NYS schools is at
http://www.nyschoolnutrition.org .

Who "approved" it? Apparently, a trade group for school cafeteria managers.
It is not approved by the biggest school district in New York State (NYC
DOE) or apparently any of the other districts.


Upon further investigation, it looks like you're correct - it's essentially
a marketing group.

One which our school district has chosen as the arbitrator of what constitutes
"healthy snacks" for our schools.

- Rich

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Catapultam habeo. Nisi pecuniam omnem mihi dabis, ad caput tuum saxum immane mittam.

"Jeff" wrote in
nk.net:

You can get Open Office for free from OpenOffice.org. It
will read Excel spreadsheets. And it's free.

yeah, but it takes valuable drive space from my games
this isn't a work computer.

lee
--
Question with boldness even the existence of god; because if
there be
one, he must more approve the homage of reason than that of
blindfolded
fear. - Thomas Jefferson

This whole thread on healthy snacks for kids really makes me feel good
about what I've started at my school. I have a "Happy Feet, Healthy
Food Kids' Club". We meet after school. The club starts again in two
weeks. When I first started the club I thought I'd get 15 kids. But
over 100 signed up. I had to split it into two groups and have a
waiting list. You can see it he
http://www.kidsrunning.com/krpublish.html

I invite parents and get many to join us each week. We read, write,
run, walk, take nature hikes, and eat healthy snacks (or any snacks
the parents send in), but we emphasize the real heatlhy stuff: fresh
fruits, veggies, whole-grain, the low-fat dairy products, etc. It's a
fun club.

We have a club song, club tee, and we use my book as a journal. The
kids take it home and journal at home during the week and bring it back
to club.

I am lucky that two local businesses sponsor my club. It goes for 10
weeks in fall and starts up again in the spring and sometimes the kids
keep comiing back. I ask for parent feedback and get it.

All "healthy eating" components are optional. Kids and parents also
design "Happy Feet Lunches" if they want. And we have a Happy Feet
Lunch contest. Then a lunch is served in the cafeteria and named after
the winning child. We did these about 10 times last year. The kids
had fun designing the lunches.

But one of the important things is that I survey parents before,
during, and after and get lots of feedback from them. They mostly say,
"Thank you." or they ask, "What did you do to get my child to start
loving to eat healthy food." Of course many of the kids who sign up
already have good eating habits and just enjoy the atmosphere.

It's not always perfect. One day I had a reporter come out. That day a
little boy brought in a family sized bag of something like Cheetohs and
a bunch of kids were grabbing for them. But I laughed it off and just
went on with the program. Like I said, I never forbid a child from
eating anything and I never take anything away - which is probably why
I get the respect from the kids and parents.

Well good luck to all of you. I'm surprised I found this thread since
I really don't read the Google Groups. It's interesting for me to see
what's happening in other communites. But I think it's sad that lists
(the NYS list) like these are out there. I do see the guidelines on the
list, but it's really not the stuff we want kids' diets to consist of.

Tracey wrote:
"L." wrote in message
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I'd tell the teacher to mind her own ****ing business and if she ever
kept my daughter from consuming food *I* sent with her, ever again, I'd
sue her sorry ass as far as I could. I'd also tell her where to shove
her ****ing stars.

Since you asked....

LOL. That was pretty much my initial reaction :-) I do want to try and be
at least somewhat diplomatic about it, at least initially.

LOL...well, what can I say? I cut to the chase.

-L.

user wrote:

If that's what NYS considers to be "healthy", I'd hate to see
what they consider to be "unhealthy." Raw lard, perhaps.

- Rich

Oh Good Grief! Doritos and cheese doodles?

-L.