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  #21  
Old December 19th 07, 01:53 PM posted to ca.politics,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Mark Probert
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

Kevysmom wrote:
Ok Ratbags, If you take the time and watch the video you will see
exactly what is happening to
your brain....Its your brain do what you want, just don't demand
others to do it!


The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.

Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.



On Dec 18, 9:15 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Note from Ilena Rosenthal ...

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Health Lover

Important Videos to counter the Vaccination Lobby Propaganda partially
headquartere at Barrett's Quack websites and his Health Fraud List.

Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WNLOjmAiw

By University Of Calgary
Autism Mercury Video assaulting the brains
neurotransmittershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM


  #22  
Old December 19th 07, 01:54 PM posted to ca.politics,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Mark Probert
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

Kevysmom wrote:
Not only is your brain full of ****...You know what you and your
other rat friends prefer to do when you are PROVEN WRONG...
You TRY and belittle anyone and everyone that does not agree with you.
Why is that?

The video was not showing mercury chloride!

Sources of elemental mercury (Hg0)

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/art...?artid=1367823



Thats the type of mercury used in the video.


Maybe your brain is a petri dish. Mine is the old fashioned kind.


On Dec 18, 3:50 pm, Peter Bowditch wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Ok Ratbags, If you take the time and watch the video you will see
exactly what is happening to
your brain....Its your brain do what you want, just don't demand
others to do it!

There's an old saying: "Bull**** baffles brains". In this case
bull**** baffles even people with no brains (or perhaps snails'
brains).

Don't go near sodium hypochlorite. The action of this chemical on
snail brain cells in vitro is far more dramatic than that of mercury
chloride, even when not applied under pressure and filmed with
time-lapse photography. It doesn't just inhibit microtubule
generation, it rips the entire cells apart. Stay away from it.

I notice that this "research" says that lead is safe in the brain.
That must be good news for Chinese toy manufacturers.

--
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To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com


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Old December 19th 07, 01:55 PM posted to ca.politics,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Mark Probert
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

Kevysmom wrote:
Hey Vax-Man ya got a link to prove your point?


He provided the information you need. Find and read the original paper,
instead of watching BullTube.


On Dec 18, 11:31 am, Vaccine-man wrote:
On Dec 18, 7:15 am, Ilena Rose wrote:

Note from Ilena Rosenthal ...

Hey Rosenthal! Did you ever read that paper from Calgary that goes
with the video? If you did, then you know they used mercury chloride
and not thimerosal. No one has ever put mercury chloride (the most
toxic form of mercury) into vaccines, only thimerosal (the safest form
of mercury with no toxicity in the doses FORMERLY used in vaccines).
The title of your thread is not true; please issue a retraction.


  #24  
Old December 19th 07, 02:02 PM posted to ca.politics, talk.politics.medicine, misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Kevysmom[_2_]
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.

Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.



Anything that doesn't agree with your agenda is always bull****, Even
when a video
showing how elemental mercury causes brain degeneration.



Excerpt from Toxicity, Mercury


"Mercury in any form IS toxic."

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/bynam...ty-mercury.htm


On Dec 19, 7:53 am, Mark Probert wrote:
Kevysmom wrote:
Ok Ratbags, If you take the time and watch the video you will see
exactly what is happening to
your brain....Its your brain do what you want, just don't demand
others to do it!


The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.

Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.





On Dec 18, 9:15 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Note from Ilena Rosenthal ...


http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Health Lover


Important Videos to counter the Vaccination Lobby Propaganda partially
headquartere at Barrett's Quack websites and his Health Fraud List.


Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WNLOjmAiw


By University Of Calgary
Autism Mercury Video assaulting the brains
neurotransmittershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM- Hide quoted text -


- Show quoted text -


  #25  
Old December 19th 07, 04:26 PM posted to ca.politics, talk.politics.medicine, misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
bigvince
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

On Dec 18, 9:15 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Note from Ilena Rosenthal ...

http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Health Lover

Important Videos to counter the Vaccination Lobby Propaganda partially
headquartere at Barrett's Quack websites and his Health Fraud List.

Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WNLOjmAiw

By University Of Calgary
Autism Mercury Video assaulting the brains
neurotransmittershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM


Remember the same groups who claimed mercury in vaccines was perfectly
safe also recommended it be removed. They also assured us that
mercury in dental fillings was locked in place

: Am J Forensic Med Pathol. 2006 Mar;27(1):42-5. Links
Dental amalgam and mercury levels in autopsy tissues: food for
thought.Guzzi G, Grandi M, Cattaneo C, Calza S, Minoia C, Ronchi A,
Gatti A, Severi G.
Italian Association for Metals and Biocompatibility Research (AIRMEB),
Milan, Italy.

Eighteen cadavers from routine autopsy casework were subject to a
study of tissue levels of total mercury in brain, thyroid, and kidney
samples by atomic absorption. On these same cadavers, all dental
amalgam fillings (the most important source of inorganic mercury
exposure in the general population, according to the World Health
Organization (WHO) were charted. Total mercury levels were
significantly higher in subjects with a greater number of occlusal
amalgam surfaces (12) compared with those with fewer occlusal
amalgams (0-3) in all types of tissue (all P or = 0.04). Mercury
levels were significantly higher in brain tissues compared with
thyroid and kidney tissues in subjects with more than 12 occlusal
amalgam fillings (all P or = 0.01) but not in subjects with 3 or
less occlusal amalgams (all P or = 0.07).

PMID: 16501347 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Thanks Vince
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Old December 19th 07, 05:04 PM posted to ca.politics, talk.politics.medicine, misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Vaccine-man
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

On Dec 19, 8:26 am, bigvince wrote:

Remember the same groups who claimed mercury in vaccines was perfectly
safe also recommended it be removed. They also assured us that
mercury in dental fillings was locked in place


Thimerosal was removed for political reasons, not scientific ones. Do
you accept that thimerosal has nothing to do with autism, now that
we're 7 years out since its removal from childhood vaccines and the
rates of autism are continuing to increase?
  #27  
Old December 19th 07, 05:05 PM posted to ca.politics, talk.politics.medicine, misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Vaccine-man
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

On Dec 19, 5:52 am, Kevysmom wrote:
The experiment it was referring to used mercury chloride. You posted
the abstract yourself, but obviously didn't read it.


Inhalation of mercury vapor (Hg0) inhibits binding of GTP to rat
brain
tubulin

Where does it say mercury chloride?


Right there, in the abstract that you posted and I pointed out the
exact line. Please re-read it.
  #28  
Old December 19th 07, 06:26 PM posted to ca.politics, talk.politics.medicine, misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
bigvince
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

On Dec 19, 8:02 am, Kevysmom wrote:
The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.


Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.


Anything that doesn't agree with your agenda is always bull****, Even
when a video
showing how elemental mercury causes brain degeneration.

Excerpt from Toxicity, Mercury

"Mercury in any form IS toxic."

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/bynam...ty-mercury.htm

On Dec 19, 7:53 am, Mark Probert wrote:



Kevysmom wrote:
Ok Ratbags, If you take the time and watch the video you will see
exactly what is happening to
your brain....Its your brain do what you want, just don't demand
others to do it!


The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.


Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.


On Dec 18, 9:15 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Note from Ilena Rosenthal ...


http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Health Lover


Important Videos to counter the Vaccination Lobby Propaganda partially
headquartere at Barrett's Quack websites and his Health Fraud List.


Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WNLOjmAiw


By University Of Calgary
Autism Mercury Video assaulting the brains
neurotransmittershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM


One Group that does not seem to have an autism epidemic is the Amish
from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Olmsted

"Dan Olmsted is an investigative reporter and senior editor for United
Press International (UPI), and wrote The Age of Autism report series
about autism. His columns on health and medicine appeared regularly in
the Washington Times and were syndicated nationally from UPI's
Washington D.

From January 2005 through July 2007, Olmsted wrote about his
investigative findings concerning the possibility that autism's
incidence rate has risen throughout the United States and elsewhere in
a series of columns titled The Age of Autism. Though most mainstream
experts think autism is a genetic disorder and that reported increases
are due to changes in diagnostic practices, Olmsted thinks the
increases are due to environmental factors and that the genetics is
mostly secondary.[1]

By April, 2005, Olmsted had begun searching for children who had not
been exposed to mercury in vaccines, the kind of population that
scientists typically use as a 'control' in experiments. Because of the
unlikelihood of finding a large enough group of unvaccinated children
to compare with those who have been vaccinated, Olmsted learned,
government medical officials have not yet conducted an epidemiological
study with such a control group -- despite the urging of many parents
and some medical professionals who suspect a link between autism and
vaccines. While the federal government has worked to prevent
scientists from studying the adverse effects of vaccines, recommending
research dollars should be spent elsewhere, journalists like Olmsted
and others have stepped in to study the link to autism.[1]

Olmsted looked for such a group that might establish demonstrative
evidence of whether a link exists, and caught wind of scattered
reports that autism was virtually unheard of among the Amish,
prompting him to begin investigating what has come to be known as the
'Amish anomaly'. The Amish rarely vaccinate children, and Olmsted
found a family doctor in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, who had
treated thousands of Amish patients. The doctor indicated he had never
seen an Amish person with autism. Based on the national rate of
autism, Olmsted determined there should be 130 Amish children with
autistic syndrome around Lancaster County. After an exhaustive search,
he found four. One had been exposed to high levels of mercury from a
power plant and the others had been vaccinated.[citation needed]

Olmsted then traveled to Amish communities in Ohio and Indiana, with
similar results. In the Amish community around Middlefield, Ohio, the
autism rate was one in 15,000, according to the medical director at a
clinic for special needs children there. In contrast, the Centers for
Disease Control (CDC) has estimated the nationwide prevalence rate at
one in 166.[citation needed]

Olmsted later discovered another large unvaccinated group, thousands
of children cared for by Homefirst Health Services in and around
Chicago, Illinois; according to Homefirst doctors, none of these
children has autism. "We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children that
we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a single
case of autism in children delivered by us who never received
vaccines," said Homefirst's medical director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein.
[citation"..........


One can see why the CDC does not wish to study this issue

Thanks Vince
  #29  
Old December 19th 07, 06:33 PM posted to ca.politics,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Jeff
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

Vaccine-man wrote:
On Dec 19, 8:26 am, bigvince wrote:

Remember the same groups who claimed mercury in vaccines was perfectly
safe also recommended it be removed. They also assured us that
mercury in dental fillings was locked in place


Thimerosal was removed for political reasons, not scientific ones. Do
you accept that thimerosal has nothing to do with autism, now that
we're 7 years out since its removal from childhood vaccines and the
rates of autism are continuing to increase?


Actually, I think there were good scientific reasons to remove
thimerosal from vaccines, including that fact that the vaccine got
mercury into the environment and that, in theory, the ethylmercury might
have some minor negative long-term effects.

However, the risk from ethylmercury in the vaccines is really small. And
the benefits of the vaccines way outweight the risks of the ethylmercury
in the vaccines.

However, autism is not a reason to remove mercury from the vaccines,
because the data overwhelmingly show that autism is not caused by vaccines.

Jeff


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Old December 19th 07, 06:37 PM posted to ca.politics,talk.politics.medicine,misc.kids.health,misc.health.alternative
Jeff
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Default Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damage ... Important Videosto Watch

bigvince wrote:
On Dec 19, 8:02 am, Kevysmom wrote:
The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.
Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.

Anything that doesn't agree with your agenda is always bull****, Even
when a video
showing how elemental mercury causes brain degeneration.

Excerpt from Toxicity, Mercury

"Mercury in any form IS toxic."

http://www.emedicine.com/emerg/bynam...ty-mercury.htm

On Dec 19, 7:53 am, Mark Probert wrote:



Kevysmom wrote:
Ok Ratbags, If you take the time and watch the video you will see
exactly what is happening to
your brain....Its your brain do what you want, just don't demand
others to do it!
The Calgary study has been well discussed in this group. Do some
research and see why it is bull****.
Most of the crap on YourTube is bull****.
On Dec 18, 9:15 am, Ilena Rose wrote:
Note from Ilena Rosenthal ...
http://ilena-rosenthal.blogspot.com
Health Lover
Important Videos to counter the Vaccination Lobby Propaganda partially
headquartere at Barrett's Quack websites and his Health Fraud List.
Mercury In Vaccines Causes Brain Cell Damagehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5WNLOjmAiw
By University Of Calgary
Autism Mercury Video assaulting the brains
neurotransmittershttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85tgwh3HpsM


One Group that does not seem to have an autism epidemic is the Amish
from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Olmsted

"Dan Olmsted is an investigative reporter and senior editor for United
Press International (UPI), and wrote The Age of Autism report series
about autism. His columns on health and medicine appeared regularly in
the Washington Times and were syndicated nationally from UPI's
Washington D.

From January 2005 through July 2007, Olmsted wrote about his
investigative findings concerning the possibility that autism's
incidence rate has risen throughout the United States and elsewhere in
a series of columns titled The Age of Autism. Though most mainstream
experts think autism is a genetic disorder and that reported increases
are due to changes in diagnostic practices, Olmsted thinks the
increases are due to environmental factors and that the genetics is
mostly secondary.[1]

By April, 2005, Olmsted had begun searching for children who had not
been exposed to mercury in vaccines, the kind of population that
scientists typically use as a 'control' in experiments. Because of the
unlikelihood of finding a large enough group of unvaccinated children
to compare with those who have been vaccinated, Olmsted learned,
government medical officials have not yet conducted an epidemiological
study with such a control group -- despite the urging of many parents
and some medical professionals who suspect a link between autism and
vaccines. While the federal government has worked to prevent
scientists from studying the adverse effects of vaccines, recommending
research dollars should be spent elsewhere, journalists like Olmsted
and others have stepped in to study the link to autism.[1]

Olmsted looked for such a group that might establish demonstrative
evidence of whether a link exists, and caught wind of scattered
reports that autism was virtually unheard of among the Amish,
prompting him to begin investigating what has come to be known as the
'Amish anomaly'. The Amish rarely vaccinate children, and Olmsted
found a family doctor in Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, who had
treated thousands of Amish patients. The doctor indicated he had never
seen an Amish person with autism. Based on the national rate of
autism, Olmsted determined there should be 130 Amish children with
autistic syndrome around Lancaster County. After an exhaustive search,
he found four. One had been exposed to high levels of mercury from a
power plant and the others had been vaccinated.[citation needed]

Olmsted then traveled to Amish communities in Ohio and Indiana, with
similar results. In the Amish community around Middlefield, Ohio, the
autism rate was one in 15,000, according to the medical director at a
clinic for special needs children there. In contrast, the Centers for
Disease Control (CDC) has estimated the nationwide prevalence rate at
one in 166.[citation needed]

Olmsted later discovered another large unvaccinated group, thousands
of children cared for by Homefirst Health Services in and around
Chicago, Illinois; according to Homefirst doctors, none of these
children has autism. "We have about 30,000 or 35,000 children that
we've taken care of over the years, and I don't think we have a single
case of autism in children delivered by us who never received
vaccines," said Homefirst's medical director, Dr. Mayer Eisenstein.
[citation"..........


One can see why the CDC does not wish to study this issue

Thanks Vince


Wikipedia is not an accurate source for this sort of thing.

Anyway, there are probably other reasons why Amish don't have high
reported rates of autism, like underreporting and possibly genetics.

If it is truly enviornmental, there are many different environmental
differences between the Amish and those living in general society near them.

And if mercury did play a role, ethylmercury is a very minor part of the
organix mercury expose that most kids get.

Jeff
 




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